Ashes: First Test

by KP_fan Wed 10 Jul 2013, 9:54 am

First topic message reminder :

It's weird...no thread on T1 yet
Ashton Agar will play is the breaking news.

by Gerry SA Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:48 am

trebellbobaggins wrote:Anderson getting this in less friendly conditions than siddle by far, says a lot for him.

Probably shows aside from Clarke, Australia's batting is a weak as hell

by alfie Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:49 am

Great over from Anderson clap

Siddle in the bag ...and should have had Starc...Swann would catch that nineteen times out of twenty.

by msp83 Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:50 am

Phillip Hughes came in at 53-4, and he's still there even when 8 down!!. Starc the latest.

by Scrumpy Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:50 am

by trebellbobaggins Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:51 am

I see your point there ms.. Lads who get 99 can bat and look how they did against Somerset and the likes.

He can't fail really.

by mystiroakey Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:51 am

Aus just have nothing imo..

England arnt even playing that well and are leagues ahead. We ave a team. They have a bunch of county level individuals..

Beefy wasnt wrong

by Breadvan Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:51 am

Aus were looking quite positive half hour ago..... Shocked

by alfie Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:51 am

...gone now !

Five for Jimmy Yahoo

Carnage...

by mystiroakey Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:52 am

Jeas even backup bolwer Jimmy can get a fiver against aus Rolling Eyes

by trebellbobaggins Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:52 am

Should be remembered that they then have to face siddle and try to remember not to hand over their wickets if they can get this Aussie team, which sky say have no tail, out.

by mystiroakey Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:53 am

Trebbs lets get real here- OZ have a tail.. I have no idea what they are talking about

by Guest Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:55 am

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by trebellbobaggins Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:55 am

They honestly said it though, no tail, all world class batsmen.

by msp83 Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:55 am

James Pattinson was such an irritant against India with the bat both in India and even in the away series in 2011. He had even turned the first test of that series with the bat with a couple of crucial efforts with the bat. And he's leaving well here.

by mystiroakey Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:56 am

maybe they meant.

no tail(as in no batters to start with)

by alfie Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:56 am

kingraf wrote:Jimmy probably read my remark about him just being capable back-up, and is trying to prove me wrong....

Its not personal Jimmy... No need to level up...

I think he has done that fairly conclusively , kingraf Smile

I would have called you on that nonsense myself but I suspect you were on the wind- up...

by kingraf Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:57 am

Yip... Shows how far Aus has fallen... They need a batting line-up.... Im still not sure Haddin for Wade was smart, and Ive made my feelings about Smith for Warner known...

by mystiroakey Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:58 am

dont review - it is only cliping.

that one deffo though!!

by trebellbobaggins Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:58 am

Looks like he's got this one as you say msp.

by alfie Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:59 am

Swann only has one but he is all over them at present

Maybe two now...out ...review...still out !

by msp83 Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:59 am

mystiroakey wrote:Trebbs lets get real here- OZ have a tail.. I have no idea what they are talking about

Australia do have a tail, but it starts at the top.

by kingraf Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:59 am

This is even worse than the batting line-up South Africa had 21-9

by trebellbobaggins Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:59 am

I think I am seeing Aussie redefine cricket here, playing with no tail and no weakness. With a team that simply cannot fail to bat.

As you say msp, its just match savers all the way down.

This has changed the game, the tail concept has ended.

by msp83 Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:00 pm

Last 32 balls, 8 runs and 5 wickets.
Latest Shane Warne is out at 11.

by trebellbobaggins Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:00 pm

And being serious, this is a rare bowling dominated gaming for this era.

It's nice to see after a year of flat tracks. I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if Aussie rip England a new one just the same with siddle in form.

by mystiroakey Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:01 pm

i dont think it matters trebbs- they could get us out for 0 and we would still win

by trebellbobaggins Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:03 pm

How can you be so confident roakey?

It does look a close series to me.

by kingraf Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:03 pm

Alfie - yeah towards the end I was just winding up... But the records did show that since 2012 Siddle had been the better bowler.. Not sure why so many took offense, it was like the time many here seriously thought Bresnan was better than Philander..

by kingraf Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:04 pm

Interesting to note, fitness permitting, Cook, KP, and Clarke would have all reached a 100 test caps by the end of the Austalian Ashes.

by msp83 Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:04 pm

Warney could bat pretty well as well, so Agar must be able to do the same.

by mystiroakey Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:05 pm

Trebbs

Aus are in turmoil..

they have been gifted a great situation (which I cannot see them getting again in this sewries) and still cant even get close..

Its more about the politics of aus cricket over the quality of players IMO.England are at home and are just to good to give them many more sniffs. If they cant take advantage of this sniff- I dont have high hopes they can change things that quickly tbh..

Maybe they will get closer in AUs. but i cant see it here tbh.

You cant just click your fingers in sport. It takes time to turn it around.

by trebellbobaggins Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:08 pm

Aga got 50 against Scotland so these two should be able to getaussie a lead here and let siddle win it.

by JDizzle Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:09 pm

Been out all morning and get back to see this. Brilliant!

Swann should do the job with two lefties at the crease, if not then get Finn on asap to wrap it up with some pace and bounce at Agar.

by alfie Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:11 pm

kingraf wrote:Alfie - yeah towards the end I was just winding up... But the records did show that since 2012 Siddle had been the better bowler.. Not sure why so many took offense, it was like the time many here seriously thought Bresnan was better than Philander..

Yeah...well I actually do rate Siddle. But when judging players you need to look a bit into the figures over a short period. Like who they are playing against and where.
Most people would agree Jimmy , right now , is a better bowler than anyone else around...except Steyn of course.

by **hampo17** Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:13 pm

Just come on my lunch, put sky go on and what a great surprise that was!

by KP_fan Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:14 pm

this has turned into an unbelievably one sided game.
every one run seems equal to two runs.....
Eng a.o 430 and Aus 250-9....would put a better perspective on the situation

by Hoggy_Bear Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:15 pm

[quote="hampo171"]Just come on my lunch[quote]

Bit kinky isn't it? Wink

by kingraf Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:16 pm

Australia really suffering from Husseys retirement. Clarke simply has too much to carry... I understand that family comes first. But Im very annoyed at a guy who claimed he couldnt keep being away from family playing IPL for nine weeks.

by Gerry SA Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:16 pm

alfie wrote:
kingraf wrote:Alfie - yeah towards the end I was just winding up... But the records did show that since 2012 Siddle had been the better bowler.. Not sure why so many took offense, it was like the time many here seriously thought Bresnan was better than Philander..

Yeah...well I actually do rate Siddle. But when judging players you need to look a bit into the figures over a short period. Like who they are playing against and where.
Most people would agree Jimmy , right now , is a better bowler than anyone else around...except Steyn of course.

Anderson is behind Steyn and Philander

by msp83 Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:17 pm

Great shot there from Agar!.

by mystiroakey Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:17 pm

"Anderson is behind Steyn and Philander"

Shocked

by **hampo17** Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:17 pm

Hoggy_Bear wrote:
hampo171 wrote:Just come on my lunch

Bit kinky isn't it?

by mystiroakey Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:19 pm

id give the batter the benefit on that one

by JDizzle Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:21 pm

Looked out to me, can understand why the batter got the benefit though.

by msp83 Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:22 pm

Agar might be out here, stumping appeal gone to the 3rd umpire. Looks a tough one here. Ant not out given. Boycott isn't happy!.

by kingraf Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:22 pm

English people arent going to rate Philander, I've long given up on that front, Gerry

by mystiroakey Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:23 pm

impossible to prove that was out tbh. Unless we had a floor camera that is!

Agar should open for aus

by mystiroakey Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:24 pm

kingraf wrote:English people arent going to rate Philander, I've long given up on that front, Gerry

crazy talk. Its just none off us rate him higher than anderson..

by Gerry SA Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:25 pm

kingraf wrote:English people arent going to rate Philander, I've long given up on that front, Gerry

It's a good job the ICC rate the Pro mate!

Second ranked. I'm happy with that!

by Gerry SA Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:26 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
kingraf wrote:English people arent going to rate Philander, I've long given up on that front, Gerry

crazy talk. Its just none off us rate him higher than anderson..

Just like only the punch drunk would believe Anderson is in Steyn's class...

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