League Reboot

by sodhat Tue 16 Jul 2013, 9:25 am

First topic message reminder :

Please register your interest should we press ahead and reboot the league.

This is also a good chance to air grievances with current rules and suggest new ones, as well as any innovations you have to make it better.

We may entirely ignore all suggestions, such is our wont.

Cherries
Gregers
Olly
Azzy
ZZZ
Nando (probably)
Afro
Hero
GSC
Trebs
sodhat

Need another 1 (or 3 or 5 or 7....)

Team Selection

Every team valued at 100m or below is available

Everybody bids for their preferred team

Maximum bid is 120m, Minimum 70m. Bids must also be at least TM value of the club

Any money left over from the 120m budget goes into your budget for a player draft

Results
Same as before

Voting
Same as before, however 1 good/bad point for each team required

TP Limit
Draft = no TP limit
Start of the league = £10m limit
Each week = £1m increase
End of season 1 = £19m TP limit (based on 10 teams, no cup weeks as we'd do that at the end)
End of season 2 = £28m

You could make it £12m > £21m > £30m if preferred?

This will change slightly depending on number of teams.

Injuries
AGREED AS 4 INJURIES PER WEEK

Do we want any form of transfers healing injuries?
NO

Whether to ditch U21 and nationality restrictions
AGREED TO DITCH BOTH

League structure - single league or not?
SINGLE LEAGUE

Cash loans (inc. implied in deals) being banned
NO CASH LOANS ALLOWED, ALL TRANSFERS MUST BE PAID UP FRONT

End of season loans when you have nothing to play for - how to stop these
NO LOANS ALLOWED EXCEPT EMERGENCY LOANS FOR GOALKEEPERS

Releases - same as before?
AGREED

Any squad limits?
22 MINIMUM, 30 MAXIMUM

Runner's Duties

Releases - Azzy
Injuries - Trebs
Posting tactics - Olly
Players within league - Afro
Results - sodhat
Lawyers - Trebs
Tables - sodhat
Fixtures/results list -Afro
Top scorers - Azzy
Premier League Prediction game - ZZZ

by **Afro** Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:14 am

Fernando wrote:.

there is nothing wrong with the current system just up the number to 3-4 a week.

Nando is right here. If it is about encouraging squad, this is as effective as a 1 x 1 week etc system.

Keep it simple and use the current system with a couple more injuries

by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:16 am

I vote: Keep current system with 4 injuries per week.

Think we should vote & get this put to bed, been discussing it since yday.

by **Afro** Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:18 am

Yes.

I vote current system with 4 injuries

by GSC Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:19 am

I think 4 a week is too harsh. Would prefer 3

by **Afro** Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:20 am

Harsh is good!

Make the game a challenge!!!

by **Afro** Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:21 am

Plus if you know it is 4 at the start, you just build your squad size accordingly

by GSC Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:22 am

Yeah about 50 players at this rate.

by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:22 am

BigFellasAfro wrote:Plus if you know it is 4 at the start, you just build your squad size accordingly

Exactly. We need to up squad size to 32. The with 4 injuries you will have 28 player to pick from each game week. Thats more than enough......if you build a good squad.

by Trebs Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:24 am

4 injuries per week. I agree. Squad limit 25, giving 21 to choose from.

also there's the championship league title i want to fight for so don't end the championship but continue the PL.

by **Afro** Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:27 am

I added squad limits to the list so we can come on to that later.

Lets get injuries done and dusted. So current system, but with 4 injuries is looking popular atm. Anyone got strong objections to it?

by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:31 am

Afro wrote:So current system, but with 4 injuries is looking popular atm. Anyone got strong objections to it?

Im happy with that.

by Guest Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:34 am

Okay, 4 injuries is it Shocked

by Guest Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:34 am

How squads/teams are decided, and starting budgets = AGREED AS BIDDING ON TEAMS BETWEEN £70M AND £100M
How results are calculated = AGREED TO KEEP AS IT IS
Making sure feedback is actually useful and constructive = AGREED IN THIS THREAD
TP limit - yes or no = AGREED ON PAGE 5 OF THIS THREAD
Injuries = AGREED AS 4 INJURIES PER WEEK
Do we want any form of transfers healing injuries?
Whether to ditch U21 and nationality restrictions
League structure - single league or not?
Cash loans (inc. implied in deals) being banned
End of season loans when you have nothing to play for - how to stop these
Releases - same as before?
Any squad limits?

I vote: DITCH U21 AND NATIONALITIES

by FIFA Diva Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:35 am

New idea for the league.

Vivas magical shop

Every second week you can buy an item from my shop. The items for sale are:

Magic sponge, it costs 1m and will take away one of your injuries

Lawyer swapper, it costs 500k and you can change your lawyer for another one.

Extra goal, it costs 1.5m an you'll get an extra goal to your voting.

Red card, It costs 2.5m the opposition team will get a red card on 60th minute.

More to come when I can think of them.

by Fernando Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:36 am

i think everyone bar trebs was agreed on ditch u21/nationalities

by Guest Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:37 am

How about no Viva, this isn't Hogwartsv2, it's 606v2 Laugh

by **Afro** Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:37 am

Definately ditch them.

I have added the question on whether to have healing from transfers to the list

by Guest Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:41 am

Didn't see that. But I thought we agreed no healing because decided on 4x1 week injuries? So I think we've decided on that one?

by **Afro** Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:42 am

I added it to your last post not my original one.

So no healing, no nationalities and no U21 rule.

Next!

by Fernando Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:43 am

league structure- id like 1 giant league =]

by Guest Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:44 am

How squads/teams are decided, and starting budgets = AGREED AS BIDDING ON TEAMS BETWEEN £70M AND £100M
How results are calculated = AGREED TO KEEP AS IT IS
Making sure feedback is actually useful and constructive = AGREED IN THIS THREAD
TP limit - yes or no = AGREED ON PAGE 5 OF THIS THREAD
Injuries = AGREED AS 4 INJURIES PER WEEK
Do we want any form of transfers healing injuries? = NO
Whether to ditch U21 and nationality restrictions = AGREED TO DITCH BOTH
League structure - single league or not?
Cash loans (inc. implied in deals) being banned
End of season loans when you have nothing to play for - how to stop these
Releases - same as before?
Any squad limits?

by Guest Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:44 am

1 giant league is much preferable. With the injuries now, there is a good chance of upsets between big and little teams.

by **Afro** Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:47 am

1 big league for me too.

Do we need another manager if Marky is not playing unless the Premier League is finished. Up to you guys whether you want to, but there doesn't seem much enthusiasm for it

by Fernando Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:48 am

not much point finishing with 3 people voting

by Gregers Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:49 am

1 big league, followed by a playoff between 1st and 2nd to determine the champion. Like rugby league super league

by Guest Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:50 am

I'm sure Marky will be happy with a cup ending it.

One of the reasons a big league is good is that you get a lot more votes - that's a huge issue for the Prem right now with so many Champ teams not being managed. One big league of 12 teams = 10 votes each week on each game, even if 2 don't do it, that's 8 votes per game.

by GSC Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:51 am

If we can do 2 it works better with voting/splitting runners duties etc

by Guest Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:51 am

Gregers wrote:1 big league, followed by a playoff between 1st and 2nd to determine the champion. Like rugby league super league

No no, no no no no, no no no no, no no there's no f***ing way music

Worst proposal ever Gregers, I'll give that to you Laugh

by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:52 am

U21's Im not fussed so I will go with the majority. Nationalities ditch.

My votes on the rest:

League structure - 1 single league.

Cash loans (inc. implied in deals) being banned - Ban them. All transfer deals must be paid in full. No installment deals.

End of season loans when you have nothing to play for - Loan deals allowed up to gameweek 5, mid point in the season after that they are banned unless its an emergency loan which needs to be sanctioned by the runners.

Releases - same as before suits me.

Any squad limits - Yes, I vote for 32 squad limit.

by Gregers Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:53 am

Azzy Mahmood wrote:
Gregers wrote:1 big league, followed by a playoff between 1st and 2nd to determine the champion. Like rugby league super league
No no, no no no no, no no no no, no no there's no f***ing way

Worst proposal ever Gregers, I'll give that to you

Have you looked at some of yours? laughing

by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:54 am

followed by a playoff between 1st and 2nd to determine the champion. Like rugby league super league

Dont like that idea. If you finish the season top of the table then you should be champion. Why should 2nd place get another bite of the apple when they were able to keep up in the race to grab it?

by Guest Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:57 am

Gregers wrote:Have you looked at some of yours?

Dude, you're saying we put all this effort into the new league, only for the team that deserves to win having a 50% chance of losing the title at the end of it? Not even Cherries could have come up with that one Laugh

by **Afro** Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:59 am

Mafia anyone?

I need a break and fancy some lynching

by Guest Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:59 am

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:League structure - 1 single league.

Cash loans (inc. implied in deals) being banned - Ban them. All transfer deals must be paid in full. No installment deals.

End of season loans when you have nothing to play for - Loan deals allowed up to gameweek 5, mid point in the season after that they are banned unless its an emergency loan which needs to be sanctioned by the runners.

Releases - same as before suits me.

Any squad limits - Yes, I vote for 32 squad limit.

So 1 big league is agreed then.

Cash loans = banned, I think we all agree that, including 'next week's bonus money'.

I'd personally ban all loans bar emergency loans.

Releases same as before

32 player squads.

by Guest Wed 17 Jul 2013, 10:59 am

Mafia, come on people: https://www.606v2.com/t46490-mafia-5-sponsored-by-george-zimmerman#2194374

by **Afro** Wed 17 Jul 2013, 11:01 am

Cash loans = banned, I think we all agree that, including 'next week's bonus money'. All transfers should have to be paid in full at the time of the deal, no future payments at all

I'd personally ban all loans bar emergency loans.

Releases same as before

I would only go to max of 28 player squads. Still leaves 24 players to make up an 18 man match day squad. More than enough

by Guest Wed 17 Jul 2013, 11:03 am

How squads/teams are decided, and starting budgets = AGREED AS BIDDING ON TEAMS BETWEEN £70M AND £100M
How results are calculated = AGREED TO KEEP AS IT IS
Making sure feedback is actually useful and constructive = AGREED IN THIS THREAD
TP limit - yes or no = AGREED ON PAGE 5 OF THIS THREAD
Injuries = AGREED AS 4 INJURIES PER WEEK
Do we want any form of transfers healing injuries? = NO
Whether to ditch U21 and nationality restrictions = AGREED TO DITCH BOTH
League structure - single league or not? = SINGLE LEAGUE
Cash loans (inc. implied in deals) being banned = NO CASH LOANS ALLOWED, ALL TRANSFERS MUST BE PAID UP FRONT
End of season loans when you have nothing to play for - how to stop these
Releases - same as before? = AGREED
Any squad limits?

So let's just vote on loans and squad limits. I think the 'no loans except emergency loans' and '32 player limit' has the vote right now.

by Fernando Wed 17 Jul 2013, 11:04 am

Cash loans - Banned

Emergency loans - only for Goalkeepers

Releases - Say that if sign someone from release got to play atleast 1-2 games before sell on

Squad Limit - 28 so with 4 injuries you'd have 3 player outside the squad unless you have midget squad.

by **Afro** Wed 17 Jul 2013, 11:06 am

Releases - Say that if sign someone from release got to play atleast 1-2 games before sell on

You can release without having to play a game, but you get nothing!

by **Afro** Wed 17 Jul 2013, 11:07 am

and max of 4 releases per week per team

by GSC Wed 17 Jul 2013, 11:11 am

If we're doubling injuries you need a highersquad limit

by **Afro** Wed 17 Jul 2013, 11:14 am

Currently 25 with two injuries works fine. 28 with 4 injuries should be sufficient as well shouldn't it?

We could split the difference and go for 30

by Guest Wed 17 Jul 2013, 11:14 am

The releases thing is unmanageable, who is going to try and keep track of how many games certain players have played?

The max releases thing only affects week 1 really, does that need to be a rule?

by **Afro** Wed 17 Jul 2013, 11:16 am

Just trying to prevent a mass of work for the releases runner in week one when everyone sticks on 10-15 players Laugh

How about max of 4 per week for the first few weeks of season 1

by Guest Wed 17 Jul 2013, 11:18 am

On the Europa League we didn't have that mass exodus. If you only have two TPs per week there's no point in releasing tons of players, as you need a squad with which to cope when you get 4 injuries.

Maybe just ask people to use their common sense? We're all grown ups here.

by **Afro** Wed 17 Jul 2013, 11:19 am

Azzy to run releases then.

Agreed

by Guest Wed 17 Jul 2013, 11:26 am

Fine by me League Reboot - Page 7 3559488474

by Marky Wed 17 Jul 2013, 11:29 am

I'd accept a cup competition to finish the league, otherwise I feel all my effort has been for nothing.

by Marky Wed 17 Jul 2013, 11:30 am

This also means I'll probably lose in Round 1 Laugh

by GSC Wed 17 Jul 2013, 11:36 am

I really am not fussed about finishing this cluster**** of a season

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