2013 Summer Transfer Window Thread....Continued.....CONTINUED

[Crimey]

First topic message reminder :

Want a couple more big deals before it closes.

Rooney
Lewandowski
Bale
Suarez

May all still be leaving.

[The Special Juan]

The Alfonso Alves argument is one I hate in football. Why does it always get dragged out about any player who has ever played in the Dutch League but there's never a mention about RVN, Bergkamp, Persie etc. it's one of the laziest arguments to just categorise all players from one league based upon one previous player. Do Spanish fans think all defenders from the Premier League are as pants as Woodgate based on his time at R.Madrid?

My counter argument is that more have failed than succeeded. Even last season de Jong and Dost didn't hit the heights in Germany. I don't write off any player from any league before I've seen them play for their new club in a new league for a while but I'm automatically pessimistic.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Well, its generally a throwaway point. I havent dismissed RVW's chances of being a major hit at Norwich, but I think its a risk.

[The Special Juan]

To be fair RVW is an anomaly. Using stats only (a poor marker) he has 26 goals in 28 Utrecht appearances but 28 in 55 for Sporting!!

[Bull]

Gala beat Porto 1-0 in the emirates cup will face one of Arsenal or Napoli

[Fernando]

Doesn't quite work like that Bullbo either way their playing Arsenal tomorrow.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Well if that isnt transfer news then I dont know what is!

[Bull]

How come nando?

is it a league ? i thought it was Knock-out like Audi cup?

[Fernando]

Yeah it's pretty much a league but you only play 2 teams  you get 1 point for every goal you score so Galatasaray will have 4pts.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Seems that Dempsey has joined Seattle Sounders. Depressing really, feels like someone could have convinced him to stay with some money.

[Guest]

Absolute shocker for Dempsey and it annoys me really. A season ago he was on fire for Fulham and banging them in. Signs for Spurs, gets wasted on the bench and then when he does come on he's played out of position. Scored a few goals for Spurs but generally unappreciated and one of Levy' rushed signings. Real shame, like the guy and represented the USA extremely well.

[GSC]

Think Dempsey is one of those players who's better as a big fish in a smaller pond.

Midtable PL or a move home on a decent paycheck were his options I suspect.

[Guest]

Think Dempsey is one of those players who's better as a big fish in a smaller pond.

Think that the same with Michu, if he'd had signed for Arsenal. Glad he's stayed with Swansea, instead of the big pay day.

Monaco dismantling Spurs right now. These could be the kind of performances post-Bale.

[The Special Juan]

What Spurs team was it? Kane and Townsend were playing, that says it all to me.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I hear that Dawson picked up an injury? Is Kaboul fit now? Looking weak in the centre first day of the season possibly

[Guest]

I only saw glimpses of the game. Lloris had a shocker, Dembele, Walker, Sigurdsson, Parker, Lennon & Chadli were all there. Defoe got injured, limped off. Obviously some of the big guns were not there like Bale, Soldado or Paulinho but not a great result.

Looks like Remy deal is going to be difficult to conclude for NUFC, QPR playing a game with us......usually means we go elsewhere. Also, James McCarthy looks to be our next target but we will go head to head with Everton for the player.

[Crimey]

Well apparently Wigan are demanding £20 million for McCarthy, think he'll probably go for £15 million, but even that's quite a lot.

[NickisBHAFC]

He's worth about 6-8 million at very most IMO.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

That is ridiculous money. He is only 22 and a very good player, but not revolutionary. Id take Ben Watson for a fraction of it and not be too worried, bossed their game today. Maloney is still their best player, saddens me to see him there.

[Guest]

Watching that Wigan/Barnsley game was comical. The standard was embarrassing, no wonder Watson is banging goals in from 25 yards with that amount of time and no pressure. If the OAP Whelan wants £20m for McCarthy then the world has gone mad, he's a good player but nothing special. Rather he went to Everton because we've got Cabaye. Must admit Kinnear has disappointed me with these targets.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

McCarthy is a top talent, but Whelan can afford to keep him, so has slapped a ridiculous price tag on him.

Went to the Emirates cup today. Marek Hamsik has a ridiculously cool haircut

[The Special Juan]

Is McCarthy the Scottish or Irish one?

Anyway, on another note here's a good read. http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/aug/03/bayern-munich-pep-guardiola Honigstein writes a good article, I'll give him that.

[Holymiky]

McCarthy is from Scotland i believe, however he plays internationally for The Republic of Ireland.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

The Alfonso Alves argument is one I hate in football. Why does it always get dragged out about any player who has ever played in the Dutch League but there's never a mention about RVN, Bergkamp, Persie etc. it's one of the laziest arguments to just categorise all players from one league based upon one previous player. Do Spanish fans think all defenders from the Premier League are as pants as Woodgate based on his time at R.Madrid?

My counter argument is that more have failed than succeeded.  Even last season de Jong and Dost didn't hit the heights in Germany.  I don't write off any player from any league before I've seen them play for their new club in a new league for a while but I'm automatically pessimistic.

Scots eh  

[Crimey]

I am really surprised no team has snapped Maloney up yet, obviously there is still time. Think he'd be a really good signing for any mid-table side. Teams like Newcastle, Sunderland, West Ham, Norwich, Fulham, West Brom would all be better with Maloney, and I doubt he'd be that expensive.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I'm kinda surprised we haven't been at least linked.

He'd be great competition for Hoolahan in that No 10 role

[The Special Juan]

The Alfonso Alves argument is one I hate in football. Why does it always get dragged out about any player who has ever played in the Dutch League but there's never a mention about RVN, Bergkamp, Persie etc. it's one of the laziest arguments to just categorise all players from one league based upon one previous player. Do Spanish fans think all defenders from the Premier League are as pants as Woodgate based on his time at R.Madrid?

My counter argument is that more have failed than succeeded.  Even last season de Jong and Dost didn't hit the heights in Germany.  I don't write off any player from any league before I've seen them play for their new club in a new league for a while but I'm automatically pessimistic.

Scots eh  

Racist

[The Special Juan]

I want to elaborate a bit on this sentence: "I don't write off any player from any league before I've seen them play for their new club in a new league for a while but I'm automatically pessimistic." I meant the Eredivisie only there. For example, I was pretty sure Kagawa would be a success after coming from Dortmund and he's done alright.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I wish we were in for Maloney. Really, I understand that we need an "inside-forward" rather than a Maloney sort.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I want to elaborate a bit on this sentence: "I don't write off any player from any league before I've seen them play for their new club in a new league for a while but I'm automatically pessimistic."  I meant the Eredivisie only there.  For example, I was pretty sure Kagawa would be a success after coming from Dortmund and he's done alright.

What would be your thoughts on the Wolfman then TSJ? Coming from Portugal

[The Special Juan]

I want to elaborate a bit on this sentence: "I don't write off any player from any league before I've seen them play for their new club in a new league for a while but I'm automatically pessimistic."  I meant the Eredivisie only there.  For example, I was pretty sure Kagawa would be a success after coming from Dortmund and he's done alright.

What would be your thoughts on the Wolfman then TSJ? Coming from Portugal

I never saw him for Sporting in the league (I think I saw him for two games against City in the EL) so I can't say too much but what I did notice is that he had a better goals/games ratio for Sporting than Utrecht!! Arguably the Portugese League is of a higher quality so I think he'll do well. If he has a record similar to either of those two leagues in the PL then that's a real coupe.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Asked if the club were close to signing Remy, Kinnear told Sky Sports News: "Yeah I think very much, so I would like to think we are very, very close to agreeing that.

"I would think maybe Monday or Tuesday we will be a position to say yea or nay, but I am very happy about how that deal is going at the moment."

Kinnear admitted talks are ongoing regarding signing former Sunderland striker Bent, but that they face competition for the England international with Fulham also reported to be chasing Bent.

"We were with Darren's agent for two or three hours, we thrashed out a deal

"We are still in negotiations with Aston Villa so there is a really strong possibility there.

"Again I hear the latest is that somebody else has all of a sudden shown interest in the player so we have competition from various clubs around the country, but I am not letting go.

"These are players that me and Alan [Pardew] have spoken about. These are players that we've all agreed at the club are the type of player we want to bring to Newcastle."

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Gonna be gutted if we arent competing for Remy

[Guest]

Been critical of Kinnear but seems like he's finally woken up and started doing his job. If he pulls off Gomis, Remy & Bent then I don't think, as a Newcastle supporter, that I can complain too much. Still think central midfield needs strengthening and a defender but see how things unfold. Surprised at the positivity of that Kinnear interview.

[Colan (niner)]

McCarthy is from Scotland i believe, however he plays internationally for The Republic of Ireland.

McCarthy is an arse, same as McGeady. With the thickest Glagow accents in the world you're fooling nobody;) 

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11709/8855032/transfer-news-juventus-confirm-two-strikers-set-to-leave-the-club


Not a great deal of info in the article to be honest, but for anyone that hasn't seen this, Juventus have pretty much confirmed Quagliarella and Matri are being sold imminently. I know that these two being surplus to requirements has been pretty well documented with new boys Tevez and Llorente, as well as Giovinco and Vucinic being ahead of them in the pecking order. However I doubt that the club would confirm this and speak openly about it to the Italian press if deals for them weren't almost sewn up.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Norwich/West Ham linked with Quagliarella, Everton with Matri is the supposed Premier League interest in that story

[Dolphin Ziggler]

We've been linked with Matri recently too. Far too good for us

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Been a mare of a night with West Ham's PR and lil Jack Sullivan. He tweeted earlier:

@jsullivanwhu: How would you feel if we signed Mboyo of Gent ? Terrible crime when he was 16, can he ever be forgiven ?
What do you think ?

Apparently, Mboyo was convicted of gang raping a 14 year old girl when he was 16. 

A little later he tweeted:

Jack Sullivan ‏@jsullivanwhu 3m

99% of you have said no to MBOYO. I’ll pass it onto my Dad. I’m sure we won’t sign him. We respect your views.

So it looks they are unsure on their own morals and putting the decision on the fans. At first I thought it was an example for Remy, but now I'm not sure. 

That account is more trouble than its worth...

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

We were linked with him in January Chris, fair to say the same sort of reaction from the fans by the looks of it.

Of course we didn't decide not to sign him by a twitter popularity poll...

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

We've been linked with Matri recently too. Far too good for us

I feel the same with Quagliarella and us.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

The Sun have an article online with the headline 
Hammers weigh up bid for convicted r***ist
But it wasnt an issue for the Star when Hull were linked http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/321712/Steve-Bruce-moves-for-Ilombe-Mboyo

[Bull]

You signed up to the pathetic SUN+ i find that even more funny   

[Liam]

Apparantly Ed Woodward is looking to secure a signing/signings before the community shield. Would be ideal, still not holding my breath over Fabregas but if we could sign him I would say we don't really need anyone else. The squad would be very strong, midfield problem finally sorted with youngsters such as Lingard and Januzaj showing their quality on tour. Hopefully they get some minutes in the community shield.

[Guest]

Has he arrived back in England yet since he left Oz on urgent transfer business?

Think I'm resigned to the fact we'll have the same squad as last season but with the addition of Zaha, who looked impressive on tour. Januzaj and Lingard could be potentially quality in the future, and we need to make sure we keep hold of them. Think there's been some quality in the youth that we've lost due to mismanagemet the last few years

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

No way Rooney is being sold to Chelsea

Would be suicidal from Utd

[Liam]

He'd be sold at the right price, which would be 35m+

[Guest]

Said the same Olly. We sell Rooney without strengthening our squad first and we may as well wave a white flag now

If we brought in more than sufficient replacemenets I wouldn't rule it out, but at the minute that doesn't look like happening any time soon

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Code:

You signed up to the pathetic SUN+  i find that even more funny   

You get the headline before the pay wall you bloody moron.

[Bull]

i went on there did not see it so you can shut up

Many thanks your friend

[GSC]

Anyway speaking of rapists Remy is having a medical with Newcastle today

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