606V2 Keeper League 2013 – NFL.com Fantasy Football Homepage

by crazy_dave23 Sat 03 Aug 2013, 12:39 pm

606V2 Keeper League 2013 – NFL.com Fantasy Football League Homepage
http://606v2k.league.fantasy.nfl.com (ID 1016967)
https://www.606v2.com/t33954-606v2-keeper-league-2012-nflcom-fantasy-football-homepage (2012 Keeper League Thread)

606V2 West 2013 League
http://606v2W.league.fantasy.nfl.com (ID 346169)
https://www.606v2.com/t47102-606v2-west-2013-nflcom-fantasy-football-homepage (2013 West League Thread)
https://www.606v2.com/t33655-606v2-west-2012-nflcom-fantasy-football-homepage (2012 West League Thread)
https://www.606v2.com/t13037-606v2-west-2011-nflcom-fantasy-football-homepage (2011 West League Thread)

606V2 East 2013 League
http://606v2E.league.fantasy.nfl.com (ID 384548)
https://www.606v2.com/t47217-606v2-east-league-2013-nflcom-fantasy-football-league-homepage (2013 East League Thread)
https://www.606v2.com/t34054-606v2-east-2012-nflcom-fantasy-football-homepage (2012 East League Thread)
https://www.606v2.com/t13121-606v2-east-nflcom-fantasy-football-homepage (2011 East League Thread)

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2013 Playoffs

Final
BamBam’s Warriors (bambamwillis) 126.56 vs 109.38 The Diddley Poos (GB1919)

3rd Place Game
Prestige Worldwide (RDuncan8) 126.28 vs 126.34 Thunder and Lightning (thunder and lightning)

Semi Finals
BamBam’s Warriors (bambamwillis) 92.26 vs 78.00 Thunder and Lightning (thunder and lightning)
Prestige Worldwide (RDuncan8) 101.90 vs 113.70 The Diddley Poos (GB1919)

Consolation Playoffs
5th Place Game
They Put a Hole in the Roof (Forward Pass) 86.32 vs 56.04 Flying High (Dominic Dicoco)

7th Place Game
Bath City Blues (TM Moot) 58.34 vs 49.34 Sri Lanka Rams (Barney92)

Semi Finals
Bath City Blues (TM Moot) 97.12 vs 105.50 Flying High (Dominic Dicoco)
They Put a Hole in the Roof (Forward Pass) 106.20 vs 77.14 Sri Lanka Rams (Barney92)

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2013 Standings

Division 1:
9-5-0 (LWWWLWWWLWLWWL) The Diddley Poos: GB1919
8-6-0 (WLWWLWLLWLWLWW) Bath City Blues: TM Moot
4-10-0 (LLLLWWLLLLLWLW) Memphis Hound Dogs: mikeygnfl
4-10-0 (WWLLLWLLLWLLLL) Corn on the Schaub: crazy_dave23

Division 2:
13-1-0 (WWWWWLWWWWWWWW) BamBam’s Warriors: bambamwillis
7-7-0 (LWLWWLLLLWWWLW) They Put a Hole in the Roof: Forward Pass
5-9-0 (LLWLWLWLLLWLWL) Sri Lanka Rams: Barney92
4-10-0 (LLLLWLWWLLWLLL) Enter RG3: number-25

Division 3:
12-2-0 (WWLWWWLWWWWWWW) Prestige Worldwide: RDuncan8
9-5-0 (WWWLLLWWWWLWLW) Thunder and Lightning: thunder and lightning
5-9-0 (LLWWLLWLWLLLWL) Flying High: Dominic Dicoco
4-10-0 (WLLLLWLWWLLLLL) Second Hand Secondary: Take it to the house

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Keeper Rules

- 3 players per year max.
- Can keep players twice (so three years total per guy) before forcible release.
- Players take the value of their draft round in the first redraft.
- Players move up in value by 5 rounds for the second redraft, or as high as they can go otherwise.
- If you end up with stacked picks (multiple players as keepers who count as the same round) they build up backward. e.g. if my keepers are draft picks 3, 4 and 5, I would lose draft picks 3, 4 and 5 in the first redraft and 1, 2 and 3 in the second as each player would be upgraded to an effective 1st rounder by the 5 round rule and therefore stack up.
- Undrafted players are valued at round 10 for the first redraft.
- Traded players initially count as there drafted position with the +5 rule in effect for all subsequent years.
- Years of eligibility are team specific, based on the round value of the player when traded to you. e.g. if a player is drafted in round 12 and is kept by another team for one season they will be valued as a round 7 pick when traded in year two due to the +5 rule.
- Abuse of the above rule by trading away a player over the keeper period only to get them back afterward will invalidate the resetting of two year eligibility.
- Once a player has no eligibility left on a given team they will count as a 1st rounder if traded away to somebody else and retained

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League History

Awards
2013 Champion: BamBam's Warriors: bambamwillis (13-1-0) + (2-0-0)
2013 2nd Place: The Diddley Poos: GB1919 (9-5-0) + (1-1-0)
2013 3rd Place: Thunder and Lightning: thunder and lightning (9-5-0) + (1-1-0)
2013 Regular Season Champion: BamBam's Warriors: bambamwillis (13-1-0)
2013 Highest Scoring Team: BamBam's Warriors: bambamwillis (1730.28)
2013 Highest Scoring Week: BamBam's Warriors: bambamwillis (Week 11, 147.82)

2012 Champion: Sri Lanka Rams: Barney92 (13-1-0) + (2-0-0)
2012 2nd Place: Prestige Worldwide: RDuncan8 (8-6-0) + (1-1-0)
2012 3rd Place: Corn on the Schaub: crazy_dave23 (11-3-0) + (1-1-0)
2012 Regular Season Champion: Sri Lanka Rams: Barney92 (13-1-0)
2012 Highest Scoring Team: Corn on the Schaub: crazy_dave23 (1459.68)
2012 Highest Scoring Week: Corn on the Schaub: crazy_dave23 (Week 16, 149.56)

Name Changes
Flynn it to Win it (2012) ---> Bath City Blues (2013): TM Moot

Owner Changes
Flynn it to Win It (2012 Draft thru Week 12): cherriesfan ---> Flynn it to Win it (2012 Week 13 onward): TM Moot

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2013 Draft Info

The 2013 draft took place at 8PM BST (3PM EDT) on Thursday 29th August 2013, with the 1st round order selected based on the reverse of last year’s finishing positions and then the snake format doing the rest.

See spoiler below for First Round Picks:

Spoiler:

Summaries of the keeper selections, full draft and the first three picks per team will follow below.

2014 1st Round
The 2014 Draft Order depends on the results of the 2013 season and resulting Championship Playoffs. The order for round 1 is as follows.
1. Second Hand Secondary - Take it to the house
2. Corn on the Schaub - crazy_dave23
3. Memphis Hound Dogs - mikeygnfl
4. Enter RG3 - number-25
5. Flying High - Dominic Dicoco
6. Sri Lanka Rams - Barney92
7. They Put a Hole in the Roof - Forward Pass
8. Bath City Blues - TM Moot
9. Prestige Worldwide - RDuncan8
10. Thunder and Lightning - thunder and lightning
11. The Diddley Poos - GB1919
12. BamBam's Warriors - bambamwillis

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2013 League Keepers - By Team

Spoiler:

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2013 League Keepers - By Position

Spoiler:

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2013 Draft and Keeper Analysis

See Spoiler below for Draft and Keeper Analysis

Spoiler:

by crazy_dave23 Sat 03 Aug 2013, 12:39 pm

Mods - Can you please make this a Sticky in place of last years version Smile

by crazy_dave23 Sat 03 Aug 2013, 12:45 pm

606V2 2013 League Keepers - By Team

Spoiler:

606V2 2013 League Keepers - By Position

Spoiler:

by BamBam Sat 03 Aug 2013, 1:28 pm

Some very interesting players not being kept .. draft should give us some drama!

by crazy_dave23 Sat 03 Aug 2013, 2:38 pm

Yeah, there are a couple less first rounders being kept vs what I expected.

Drew Brees effectively goes number 1 but then it will go interesting... the consensus picks (i.e. the RBs) are all keepers at the base of round 1, start of round 2 (Foster, McCoy, Rice, Peterson) which shows that you need a top RB to do well... and nobody up top is going to get one unless they take more of a mid level guy at picks 2-6 and hope they turn up big!

by Number-25 Sat 03 Aug 2013, 9:23 pm

Yep, am also surprised that there weren't more number 1s kept. I thought I'd be picking sooner in that first round than I'm going to be. I can see a few players going earlier in the draft than they might otherwise have done because guys will have filled needs with a keeper taken later last year which will leave others reaching. I'm already feeling the pressure to snap an RB or WR early!

by crazy_dave23 Sun 04 Aug 2013, 4:28 pm

Right guys...
When would people prefer the draft to be held.

The starting options are...

Monday 26th August (BH Monday) @ say 4pm
Monday 26th August (BH Monday) @ say 8pm
Sunday 1st September @ say 4pm
Sunday 1st September @ say 8pm
Midweek Tues 27th thru Thur 29th @ say 8pm

Could you all please state what you would prefer and specifically what you CANT do. We can then try to accommodate people as much as possible.

by RDuncan8 Sun 04 Aug 2013, 8:15 pm

Monday 26th August (BH Monday) @ say 4pm - Probably can't
Monday 26th August (BH Monday) @ say 8pm - Probably can
Sunday 1st September @ say 4pm - Preferred
Sunday 1st September @ say 8pm - Can do.
Midweek Tues 27th thru Thur 29th @ say 8pm - Probably can

by mikeygnfl Mon 05 Aug 2013, 1:58 am

Monday 26th August (BH Monday) @ say 4pm Can't do
Monday 26th August (BH Monday) @ say 8pm Can't do
Sunday 1st September @ say 4pm Could do
Sunday 1st September @ say 8pm Could do but is my preferred time for the West league
Midweek Tues 27th thru Thur 29th @ say 8pm Can do.

by TM Moot Mon 05 Aug 2013, 8:56 am

Monday 26th August (BH Monday) @ say 4pm - Probably can't
Monday 26th August (BH Monday) @ say 8pm - Probably can
Sunday 1st September @ say 4pm - Probably can't
Sunday 1st September @ say 8pm - Probably can (unless it clashes with the East)
Midweek Tues 27th thru Thur 29th @ say 8pm - Probably can

by Barney92 Mon 05 Aug 2013, 10:11 am

Monday 26th August (BH Monday) @ say 4pm - Probably can
Monday 26th August (BH Monday) @ say 8pm - Probably can
Sunday 1st September @ say 4pm - Probably can
Sunday 1st September @ say 8pm - Probably can
Midweek Tues 27th thru Thur 29th @ say 8pm - Probably can (Preferred)

by thunder and lightning Mon 05 Aug 2013, 11:13 am

Monday 26th August (BH Monday) @ say 4pm - Probably can
Monday 26th August (BH Monday) @ say 8pm - Probably can
Sunday 1st September @ say 4pm - Probably can (Preferred)
Sunday 1st September @ say 8pm - Probably can
Midweek Tues 27th thru Thur 29th @ say 8pm - Probably can

by Take it to the house Mon 05 Aug 2013, 5:59 pm

Monday 26th August (BH Monday) @ say 4pm -Probably can(Preferred)
Monday 26th August (BH Monday) @ say 8pm -Probably can
Sunday 1st September @ say 4pm - Probably can't
Sunday 1st September @ say 8pm - Probably can't be there for the start, might be able to catch part of it
Midweek Tues 27th thru Thur 29th @ say 8pm -Probably can

by BamBam Mon 05 Aug 2013, 7:12 pm

If possible, I would prefer not to have them on the same day, takes up too much revision time!

Bank Holiday - Can't do
Sunday 1st 4pm - Can, but if West is at 8pm would rather not
Tues 27th - Thur 29th - As long as we fix it early on I can do one of these

by crazy_dave23 Mon 05 Aug 2013, 8:42 pm

BamBam wrote:If possible, I would prefer not to have them on the same day, takes up too much revision time!

I'd logic that it takes the same amount of time... but I know what you mean!

by Number-25 Mon 05 Aug 2013, 11:29 pm

Monday 26th August (BH Monday) @ say 4pm - Can't do
Monday 26th August (BH Monday) @ say 8pm - Can do
Sunday 1st September @ say 4pm - Can't do
Sunday 1st September @ say 8pm - Can't do
Midweek Tues 27th thru Thur 29th @ say 8pm - Can do all of these and would prefer one of these

by crazy_dave23 Tue 06 Aug 2013, 9:23 pm

Right as it is shaping up, the Keeper draft seems likely to happen sometime in the midweek options, whilst the West will happen on Sun 1st Sep.

Keep your schedules coming if you haven't given one. I'll likely reassess what everyone has put come Friday.

by thunder and lightning Wed 07 Aug 2013, 12:18 pm

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand Alexander tears his ACL, as if my keepers weren't bad enough already Sad

by TM Moot Wed 07 Aug 2013, 7:37 pm

I've renamed "Flynn it to Win It" to a proper team name, "Bath City Blues".

crazydave - I'll change it back if it keeps things easier for you...

by crazy_dave23 Wed 07 Aug 2013, 8:06 pm

TM Moot wrote:I've renamed "Flynn it to Win It" to a proper team name, "Bath City Blues".

crazydave - I'll change it back if it keeps things easier for you...

Easy enough to sort... I have all the underlying code on word so I just press find & replace!

by crazy_dave23 Wed 07 Aug 2013, 8:11 pm

and now it is done

by GB1919 Wed 07 Aug 2013, 9:40 pm

Happy with any of the times except 4pm on the Bank Holiday.

by TM Moot Thu 08 Aug 2013, 8:08 am

crazy_dave23 wrote:and now it is done

ta

by crazy_dave23 Fri 09 Aug 2013, 7:09 pm

Announcement:

The draft is going to be set for
Thursday 29th August 2013 @ 8PM BST or 3PM EDT (which is the time I have to set it with reference to!)

Everyone bar Dominic Dicoco has responded about times and putting it all together each weekend / bank holiday slot has at least one absentee whereas midweek has just yes's and probably's.

I've gone for Thursday because there are some members here in the East as well and Tuesday looks the most likley winner over that side.
Also I can't find any overly massive sporting fixtures that that date clashes with... I haven't looked that hard.

Let the complains flow in...

by Number-25 Fri 09 Aug 2013, 7:56 pm

Cheers Dave! No complaints from me.

by BamBam Fri 09 Aug 2013, 11:17 pm

Sounds good.. Any chance we can have a reminder a few days beforehand!

by crazy_dave23 Sat 10 Aug 2013, 10:21 am

BamBam wrote:Sounds good.. Any chance we can have a reminder a few days beforehand!

i'm sure you will notice one way or another!

by Dominic Dicoco Mon 12 Aug 2013, 3:17 pm

29th is fine with me.

by crazy_dave23 Mon 12 Aug 2013, 7:35 pm

Cool, looks like we should basically all be there!

by Forward Pass Tue 20 Aug 2013, 3:56 pm

Thanks sorting all the keepers and draft Dave
I can make the 29th as well

Bored at work
so just put all the keepers into the excluded players in pre draft rankings
Not a great deal of top tier players left
Should be an interesting draft night

by BamBam Tue 20 Aug 2013, 4:28 pm

How do I see that list mate?

by crazy_dave23 Tue 20 Aug 2013, 10:51 pm

BamBam wrote:How do I see that list mate?

The keeper list is in the top thread within a spoiler, either sorted by team or position.
It is also the second post of this thread, one of the final posts of the old thread (link up top) and you can find the full draft order with players assigned via http://606v2k.league.fantasy.nfl.com/ > League > Draft Info

I hadn't thought of the fact that the keepers probably won't be taken off your own fantasy rankings unless you manually do it which could be awkward as I usually use the same list for all my draft and I clearly don't want to take the best players off that one!

by BamBam Tue 20 Aug 2013, 11:50 pm

crazy_dave23 wrote:
BamBam wrote:How do I see that list mate?
The keeper list is in the top thread within a spoiler, either sorted by team or position.
It is also the second post of this thread, one of the final posts of the old thread (link up top) and you can find the full draft order with players assigned via http://606v2k.league.fantasy.nfl.com/ > League > Draft Info

I hadn't thought of the fact that the keepers probably won't be taken off your own fantasy rankings unless you manually do it which could be awkward as I usually use the same list for all my draft and I clearly don't want to take the best players off that one!

Ah ok, yeah I meant if its possible to see the rankings on the site with all the keepers removed. Like you, I use the same list for every draft, so would be a good option, might do it manually for this league when I'm bored

by TM Moot Wed 21 Aug 2013, 8:13 am

Quick query pls chaps, will our draft board remove all the Keepers from the available player list?

I had assumed that I wouldn't have to make a selection until round 3 (as have Brees and Fitz at rounds 1 and 2)...or will i need to still physically need to select my keepers in their appropriate round??

by Forward Pass Wed 21 Aug 2013, 8:34 am

BamBam wrote:
crazy_dave23 wrote:
BamBam wrote:How do I see that list mate?
The keeper list is in the top thread within a spoiler, either sorted by team or position.
It is also the second post of this thread, one of the final posts of the old thread (link up top) and you can find the full draft order with players assigned via http://606v2k.league.fantasy.nfl.com/ > League > Draft Info

I hadn't thought of the fact that the keepers probably won't be taken off your own fantasy rankings unless you manually do it which could be awkward as I usually use the same list for all my draft and I clearly don't want to take the best players off that one!
Ah ok, yeah I meant if its possible to see the rankings on the site with all the keepers removed. Like you, I use the same list for every draft, so would be a good option, might do it manually for this league when I'm bored

That's what I had to do manually change the rankings list
I only changed the draft rankings for the keeper league left the rest of my leagues alone
Tried to cut & paste list but it won't allow it , top 10 players left are
1] Megatron 2] A.Morris 3] Forte 4] J.Jones 5] J.Graham 6] CJ2K 7] Dre 8] S.JacKson 9] MJD 10] VJax
Gives you an idea of what's left

by crazy_dave23 Wed 21 Aug 2013, 10:22 pm

TM Moot wrote:Quick query pls chaps, will our draft board remove all the Keepers from the available player list?

I had assumed that I wouldn't have to make a selection until round 3 (as have Brees and Fitz at rounds 1 and 2)...or will i need to still physically need to select my keepers in their appropriate round??

The draft will remove all keepers from the board as you start the draft and when it comes to your pick, it will just skip it.

The query that recent post seem to be about, is whether you can see a list of all players minus keepers in advance of the draft day so you can try to establish who is available more easily in advance and set up your draft board for it.

by TM Moot Thu 22 Aug 2013, 8:04 am

crazy_dave23 wrote:
TM Moot wrote:Quick query pls chaps, will our draft board remove all the Keepers from the available player list?

I had assumed that I wouldn't have to make a selection until round 3 (as have Brees and Fitz at rounds 1 and 2)...or will i need to still physically need to select my keepers in their appropriate round??
The draft will remove all keepers from the board as you start the draft and when it comes to your pick, it will just skip it.

The query that recent post seem to be about, is whether you can see a list of all players minus keepers in advance of the draft day so you can try to establish who is available more easily in advance and set up your draft board for it.

cool, cheers CD Very Happy

by crazy_dave23 Mon 26 Aug 2013, 10:47 am

Just a reminder that we draft on Thursday at 8pm...

I know most are intending on being there, but even if you are please make sure you have done the following...

Go to My Team > Pre-Draft Rankings > Edit Preferred Positions and select at what point you would allow the CPU to select different positions.

If you do not do this, and either miss the draft or have connection issues on the evening (it's happened in our leagues) the CPU will draft a DST and a Kicker in round 8 and 9 regardless of your draft board. This is because it priorities filling the first team slots over adding to the bench.

If you have keepers in rounds 8 and 9 I imagine (without proof) that it would do it even earlier!

by crazy_dave23 Wed 28 Aug 2013, 5:49 pm

For those that are interested, I just did a bit of fancy stuff in a spreadsheet and super imposed the 606V2 East draft on top of our keepers.

i.e. I left all of our keepers in the allocated slots, and then filled all remaining draft slots with the highest non keeper from the east draft.
Alfred Morris was the highest drafted player in the East league that wasn't a keeper, so he would slot in at position 2 because GB1919 didn't select a first round keeper.

This would make the draft look as follows for the first 3 rounds with the keepers in bold (I've not put any teams names against draft slots... sorry!)

1 Drew Brees QB
2 Alfred Morris RB
3 Matt Forte RB
4 Calvin Johnson WR
5 Julio Jones WR
6 Steven Jackson RB
7 Maurice Jones-Drew RB
8 Jimmy Graham TE
9 Arian Foster RB
10 Ray Rice RB
11 LeSean McCoy RB
12 Aaron Rodgers QB

13 Adrian Peterson RB
14 Chris Johnson RB
15 Reggie Bush RB
16 Andre Johnson WR
17 A.J. Green WR
18 Vincent Jackson WR
19 Roddy White WR
20 Marques Colston WR
21 Trent Richardson RB
22 Victor Cruz WR
23 Jamaal Charles RB
24 Larry Fitzgerald WR

25 Torrey Smith WR
26 Eddie Lacy RB
27 DeMarco Murray RB
28 Darren McFadden RB
29 Darren Sproles RB
30 Reggie Wayne WR
31 Marshawn Lynch RB
32 Doug Martin RB
33 Antonio Brown WR
34 Chris Ivory RB
35 Brandon Marshall WR
36 Rob Gronkowski TE

by BamBam Wed 28 Aug 2013, 6:13 pm

Its going to be interesting for sure .. teams with strong RB keepers who are drafting early could easily look to take Calvin or a Jimmy Graham, whereas someone who has only kept WRs is almost forced to take a RB, even if it means they are passing up a talent like the above 2.

Looking forward to it now!

by GB1919 Thu 29 Aug 2013, 7:52 am

Draft day! I've been going back and forth on a couple of players with the first pick, I don't think I'll be able to choose until I actually have to click on a player.

by TM Moot Thu 29 Aug 2013, 7:55 am

wish i'd kept different Keepers now, having to wait until the 3rd round is going to be painful

still, should be fun Very Happy

by RDuncan8 Thu 29 Aug 2013, 7:31 pm

Draft is open!

by crazy_dave23 Thu 29 Aug 2013, 7:41 pm

Its almost time...

Really interested who I will be able to get at number 15!

by crazy_dave23 Thu 29 Aug 2013, 9:23 pm

That was a strange draft... mikeygnfl drafted 0 QBs, only 4 teams took kickers and the Sri Lanka Rams have no healthy TEs... plus Percy Harvin went in round 11 (I think) despite being crippled!

will start the write ups later

by mikeygnfl Thu 29 Aug 2013, 9:44 pm

Keen to see what my write up says? I had a couple of QBs in mind but they didn't fall. My QB situation is likely to be on a week-by-week basis. Panicked a bit with the pick. Wish I gambled on the players I wanted rather then waiting for them to drop.

by Forward Pass Thu 29 Aug 2013, 9:50 pm

agree was odd
but mikey might just play qb matchups each week ,was about 4 reasonable qb's left
He also has no DST or kicker

i thought of grabbing Harvin late rounds for 2014 would need him to go IR though as would lose a bench spot

Suprised Barney didnt back up gronk as he wont be fit for weeks

Be interesting to see all the players dropped before week 1 - 8 kickers - 2 DST - 1 QB required

by crazy_dave23 Thu 29 Aug 2013, 10:30 pm

First 4 write ups are done Smile

by TM Moot Thu 29 Aug 2013, 10:54 pm

crazy_dave23 wrote:First 4 write ups are done

Nice write up dave, you got mine draft spot on.

Really not happy with my RB's. I had Macfadden and Murray lined up only for both to disappear right before I picked. Ivory was the next best and with the Jets not being able to throw the ball I thought he might get some decent production.

I didn't realise I had so many Cardinals though. Shocked

Happy with Finley and Olsen at TE. Happy to of kept 49ers D. Brees and WRs are ok.

Being new to this league, my aim is to be 11th or better. Bring it on boxing

by Take it to the house Thu 29 Aug 2013, 11:00 pm

"I figure the biggest regret for this team comes in not sticking a 5th round keeper on Vincent Jackson who promptly went in the first round. It would have meant doubling up with Danny Amendola, who at a 15th rounder is one of the bargains of last year, but I’d have done it over either Eli Manning who is massively over drafted at a 4th round keeper."

Totally agree with this, I guess I panicked a bit when choosing keepers and thought that everyone with good QBs would keep them! So I kept Manning even though he wasn't great value at 4, Rudolph and Amendola were good value so VJax was the unfortunate casualty! In hindsight, would obviously keep him.

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