Champions League Group Stages

First topic message reminder :

The draw is tonight and we could have some potentially crazy strong groups, Manchester City have a 50% chance of being in the same group as Bayern Munich or Barcelona.

What is the tie everybody wants to see in the group stages?

The sending off was a disgrace. It was silly of Brown but Neymar's playacting is just embarrassing.
Having said that, I wanted Barca to win. Celtic were just tedious.
I know Barca were without Messi but I can't see them winning the tournament having watched that match. Bayern would thump them again.
Fraser Forster's double was probably one of the best bits of goalkeeping I've seen. Wenger should go for him.
Arsenal looked great. In Ozil, they have probably the best player in the league. A few more signings and they would be complete.
Chelsea seem to be clicking in gear now. Schurrle looked like the player he was hyped up as.

Ok then!

Will the Manc clubs restore some pride and win two pretty difficult games.

I am backing them both

The sending off wasn't a disgrace, Naymar is a filthy little cheat but Scott Brown bootes him needlessly right on the spine about 25m from me, sending off all night long!

It was ridiculous by Brown, right in front of the ref as well. Let his teammates down badly

Olly wrote:It was ridiculous by Brown, right in front of the ref as well. Let his teammates down badly

Not for the first time. Man is a joke.

Citeh one down. Joe Hart, once again, the man at fault. What on earth has gone wrong for him in the last year or two? Forster may be fancying his chances for the spot of England no.1 if this keeps up.

Citeh playing like chumps.

Bayern have had 65% of the ball.... Guardiola only plays one way.

thats a telling stat away. Citeh are total flakes though. They have no identity yet and that is sad for a team with so much money and so much ability.

Basically citeh are looking like napoli last night, luckily for citeh they have individual quality and are only 1 goal down..

Citeh are embarrassing English football again. Fake team built on fake cash.

My dislike of them can be summed up by 3 little words:

Come on Bayern!

what the fieck just happened

Bayern 2-0

Bayern 3-0.

I just like the way people seemed to be surprised by Citeh sucking against the champions of europe.

Fernando wrote:Bayern 3-0.

I just like the way people seemed to be surprised by Citeh sucking against the champions of europe.

maybe because

1.the rest of the german league is so bad
2. citeh are at home and so much better than this

I believe in Joe Hart but there's no way he should be keeping the England No1 jersey in this sort of form. Shocking

Shaktar 1-1 United - Taison - Valencia letting his man get away again

15 to go

mystiroakey wrote:

Fernando wrote:Bayern 3-0.

I just like the way people seemed to be surprised by Citeh sucking against the champions of europe.

maybe because

1.the rest of the german league is so bad

Yeah that Dortmund side only got to the CL final last year...

Very tactically naive from Pellegrini tonight. If this was Moyes he'd be being hung drawn and quartered

Bayerns entire squad cost less than Gareth Bale. A telling tale for a squad accused of buying the best of their league...

Hero wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

Fernando wrote:Bayern 3-0.

I just like the way people seemed to be surprised by Citeh sucking against the champions of europe.

maybe because

1.the rest of the german league is so bad

Yeah that Dortmund side only got to the CL final last year...

the team that sells there best players to bayern you mean

mystiroakey wrote:

Hero wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

Fernando wrote:Bayern 3-0.

I just like the way people seemed to be surprised by Citeh sucking against the champions of europe.

maybe because

1.the rest of the german league is so bad

Yeah that Dortmund side only got to the CL final last year...

the team that sells there best players to bayern you mean

Neither were optional Mysti.

Goetze's release clause was activated and Lewandowski is out of contract and made it clear he won't sign a new one.

I couldnt see Lewandowski getting a game in this Bayern team three days ago. Right now I think its damn impossible.

Fernando wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

Hero wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

Fernando wrote:Bayern 3-0.

I just like the way people seemed to be surprised by Citeh sucking against the champions of europe.

maybe because

1.the rest of the german league is so bad

Yeah that Dortmund side only got to the CL final last year...

the team that sells there best players to bayern you mean

Neither were optional Mysti.

Goetze's release clause was activated and Lewandowski is out of contract and made it clear he won't sign a new one.

It still tells a very telling story that they cant hold on to them, and that they want to go to there biggest rivals

Manc clubs are having a bad week!!

mystiroakey wrote:

Hero wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

Fernando wrote:Bayern 3-0.

I just like the way people seemed to be surprised by Citeh sucking against the champions of europe.

maybe because

1.the rest of the german league is so bad

Yeah that Dortmund side only got to the CL final last year...

the team that sells there best players to bayern you mean

And currently sits top of the Bundesliga ahead of Bayern on goal difference. A forward line that contains Reus, Mkhitaryan and Aubameyang is going to create plenty for whomever replaces Lewandowski.

To be fair to man u, a draw away at shakhtar would be a good result

I agree LD, most top sides in a Europe would happily accept a draw at Shaktar.

It still doesn't sit right Hero,

Bayern deserve all the plaudits though. But to be able to snap up the best talent from there biggest rivals doesn't say much about the league

LastDamnation wrote:To be fair to man u, a draw away at shakhtar would be a good result

agreed, i would have taken a draw before the start. win home games draw away and you'll usually top your group

man u arent 'most' sides

That's a good point for Utd, and a good performance to boot.

Not sure Citeh being played off the park by the best team in Europe is such a shock. Bayern showed last year they're a level above the next tier, and Citeh ain't even on that

looking at madrid's group. It looks seriously weak.

Madrid have scored 10 goals to 1!

juve have drawn both games against the same opposition and sit in second spot!

United probably quite satisfied - about as satisfied as Roy Hodgson was against Ukraine, I'd imagine.

City? Years and years away from being a top team in Europe.

Arsenal and Chelsea? I reckon one of them could well win it.

Hero wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

Fernando wrote:Bayern 3-0.

I just like the way people seemed to be surprised by Citeh sucking against the champions of europe.

maybe because

1.the rest of the german league is so bad

Yeah that Dortmund side only got to the CL final last year...

2 teams don't make a league though.

Galatasary made QFs last year, as did Juve, Copenhagen are a bit of a gimme, but the group isnt as bad as you make it out to be, Mystir.

kingraf wrote:Galatasary made QFs last year, as did Juve, Copenhagen are a bit of a gimme, but the group isnt as bad as you make it out to be, Mystir.

well if that's the case then madrid are leagues ahead of everyone!

And man citeh truly need to sort themselves out in europe .If they cant get out of the group again they need to seriously look into their european form. Because it doesn't stack up against their league showings. They need a different approach, even tottenham looked decent in the cl

Haha, naaw.. I think Bayern just laid down the gauntlet, if Im honest. A team has to win the UCL back-to-back eventually, right?

So you think citeh will get out of this group then?

and bayern just were on top form.

Citeh looked clueless graf.

A team like united or chelsea would have set up against bayern and made it very difficult to get beaten!

citeh got brushed away and they showed zero respect for them, so they got what they deserved

I think it was pretty obvious to everyone watching that match that Bayern were on top form, and as we saw last season, when Bayern are on top form there isn't a team in Europe that can get near to them.

Honestly not really a surprise City got beaten by the class of Europe Mysti

Olly as i stated chelsea or united would have been very hard to beat. I can't say this enough. Its fact

citeh have a seriously poor record in this comp and aren't playing to the team they are facing
.

And if that isn't obvious to people watching then they haven't watched enough football. The problems were citehs making as much as bayerns class

Except you know it's not fact at all. Would love to know where you find this fact that Utd/Chelsea wouldn't have been played off the park Myst

Olly wrote:Except you know it's not fact at all. Would love to know where you find this fact that Utd/Chelsea wouldn't have been played off the park Myst

It's all about what has happened before.

Citeh underperform in europe, man u and chelsea are heavyweights, and even when they are outplayed they are still competitive and allways have a chance of nicking the game

Yes those European heavyweights Chelsea who didn't get out the group last year and lost at home to Basel this year. Those ones yeah...

you are actually joking aren't you?

you are talking about the team that won in 2011 and before that got to plenty off finals, semis and quarters almost every year for 10 straight. You are basing everything on a year.(a year when they still won the plate comp!!)

I understand you are young olly , but when you get to my age a year isnt a long time

The one team in Europe that came close to Bayern ironically was that poor German feeder team  you know the one that beat them at the beginning of the season in the curtain raiser.

you mean the team that got battered by napoli who afer got battered by the pl's 4th team?

Oh and is this the Utd team that lost at home to West Brom? I'm sure they would've been able to hold Bayern too... 

They're a cut above the rest. No team in Europe will get close to them in this form

rubbish olly- bayern have allways been good, but a team like chelsea or united would have had a game plan and been much harder to beat. Citeh haven't go that ability.

To be fair, if there is one team capable of being stubborn and grinding out a result against Bayern its Chelsea, Mourinho's legacy from his first spell remained at that club. They are the best gritty, deep defending fighters in world football.