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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 14 Sep 2013, 7:34 pm

First topic message reminder :

Evening Gents,

Not been started yet so here is the thread with the impending action live on channel 5 followed by the big ones stateside on Boxnation/Showtime Online.

Post your thoughts, views, predictions, score cards, comments....or whatever.....drunken slurs (mackem).

Enjoy gents, its going to be a long but exciting night!!

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Post by YDKSAB Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:23 am

Still the MASTER!!

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Post by hogey Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:23 am

Got Floyd by 2 rounds
6-4 with 2 even
Insane tactics to give away cheaply so many rounds by standing off


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Post by Haito Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:23 am

What fight are you watching Marky?. If you cant see Floyd's great work tonight, you need to start following another sport.
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Post by jimdig Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:24 am

120 112, mayweather getting better with age.

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:24 am

M A
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9-10
9-10
10-9
10-9
10-9
10-9
9-10
10-9
9-10 96/94
10-9
10-10 116/113

It was never going to live up to the hype, but still...


Wonderful stuff from Mayweather.

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Post by The Terror of Tylorstown Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:24 am

116-112

The kind of performance Whitaker would have been lambasted for, not masterclass for me far too much running.

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Post by Marky Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:24 am

Haito wrote:What fight are you watching Marky?. If you cant see Floyd's great work tonight, you need to start following another sport.
I can, but I can also see Alvarez's great work and he's not getting the credit for it obviously.

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Post by Strongback Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:24 am

Floyd doing the chicken run.

Rawling needs to be sent back to commentators school.

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Post by sparxz Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:24 am

I got mayweather winning by 2 rounds , but can see an argument for up to 4 rounds, no argument for canelo here tho

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:24 am

Easily a WIDE points win. Utterly outclassed.

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Post by 88Chris05 Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:25 am

118-110 to Mayweather for me. Genuinely don't think I could be much kinder to Canelo than that.
 
I think Oscar must have got confused when he stuck his hand in to the vault to get that 'blueprint' for Saul. Gave him the one he used against Sturm instead of the one against Mayweather.
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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:25 am

116-112 Floyd, Canelo closed well and didn't lose any fans, he was never going to win on the cards

He chose to box floyd and should have just applied pressure and bang to the body like he did in the last 5 rounded

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:25 am

Mark you don't understand. Hitting arms and missing all night, followed by being countered all might means you lose.

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Post by KingMonkey Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:25 am

He cannot be beat. Simple. There is nobody out there who can even get close. He's nearly 37 and he's better than ever.

Canelo is a superb fighter, he did better than most but still couldn't get close.

As said before, just shows you how well Ricky did although ultimately exhausted himself.

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Post by sparxz Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:25 am

Marky wrote:
Haito wrote:What fight are you watching Marky?. If you cant see Floyd's great work tonight, you need to start following another sport.
I can, but I can also see Alvarez's great work and he's not getting the credit for it obviously.
I'm with ya if no- one else

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:26 am

118-112 for me.

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Post by Haito Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:26 am

117-111 for me. Draw call was awful.
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Post by Marky Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:26 am

115-113 seems about right Whistle

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Post by rob-glos Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:26 am

114-114!!

That's as bad a card as the one for Ricky Burns!

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Post by jimdig Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:26 am

A draw, wtf was that card about?

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:27 am

One judge was Oscar De La Hoya. 114-114?! Hahahahahahaha brilliant. She is getting suspended. 117-111 was right

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Post by 88Chris05 Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:27 am

Dear me. 114-114? And they wonder why us fans have so little confidence in judges?
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Post by SweetScience Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:27 am

Majority decision!!! WTF!!!!

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Post by Haito Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:27 am

2nd shocking decision shes made. Obviously does not know how to score a fight correctly.
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Post by paperbag_puncher Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:27 am

Canelo wasn't half as bad as some are making out. Gave it more of a go than most. Just got beat by one of the best of all time.

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Post by Marky Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:28 am

mobilemaster8 wrote:Mark you don't understand. Hitting arms and missing all night, followed by being countered all might means you lose.
I never said Alvarez wins, just not by anywhere near as big a margin as others. Alvarez won 4 rounds easily, and I scored him another one that was close.

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Post by hogey Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:28 am

Think outclassed is overstating it Alveraz certainly done enough to win 4 rounds and neither of them hardly threw a punch in the first 2. Floyd definitely won though and the judge who scored it a draw is a joke.

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Post by Captain Charisma Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:29 am

Boxing disgraced again.

How apt that you get a crap one-sided fight and then horrible judging! Rolling Eyes 

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:29 am

Cotto gave Mayweather a better fight than that. Wonder how he'd fair against Canelo, he's got a more solid jab than Floyd if not as quick.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:29 am

Floyd easy win. Fought a different style against Garrerro. Just too good.


Would he of beaten Manny way back and today. Easy win again for Floyd.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:29 am

Floyd still has 4 fights left, one or 2 wins and canelo becomes an option again

It's not going to get the attention of this fight but he is still a star in Mexico and floyd will be 1/2 years older as would canelo

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Post by Strongback Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:30 am

KingMonkey wrote:Canelo isn't overhyped. He's the best out there. There is nobody else!
He's avoided all the real challengers. Canelo was never going to win the fight. Check my post history for my explanation.

Floyd will fight Garcia next and it will be another walkover.

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Post by Scottrf Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:30 am

"Alvarez won 4 rounds easily"

You can give him 4 if you like, but please don't say he won 4 easily.

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Post by Haito Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:30 am

Alvarez looked better when he was desperate. Disappointed in him tonight. Let Mayweather have far too much time and run away with the first 7 rounds.Mayweather knew he'd won after that for me.
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Post by Guest Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:31 am

I gave 2 dubious rounds at best to Alvarez. Totally outclassed. Brilliant skills from May.

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Post by YDKSAB Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:31 am

Canelo got completely SCHOOLED. Now to sit back and watch the HATERS try to HATE on Money!!! DAMN it must burn them. Canelo 15 pounds HEAVIER and Mayweather able to BACK HIM UP and some fools saying he RUNS???

Now lets see the HATERS say Canelo was NO GOOD and Money should fight Martinez or Ward next!!!

DAMN!

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Post by Marky Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:31 am

Scottrf wrote:"Alvarez won 4 rounds easily"

You can give him 4 if you like, but please don't say he won 4 easily.
Not meaning he won them easily, but I easily scored them to him.

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Post by RanjitPatel Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:32 am

Glenn Mcrory will be devastated. Apparently the draw judge is a big Glenn fan.

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Post by Scottrf Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:32 am

Marky wrote:
Scottrf wrote:"Alvarez won 4 rounds easily"

You can give him 4 if you like, but please don't say he won 4 easily.
Not meaning he won them easily, but I easily scored them to him.
Yeah, I don't know what that means.

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:32 am

Canelo will be a middleweight soon enough, there won't be a rematch. Pointless anyway.

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Post by hogey Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:33 am

I would expect it to me much tougher if they have a rematch, Alveraz will learn a lot from that tonight and i doubt he would be so passive for the first half of the fight in a return match. If he had been aggressive when he had more gas in the tank it could have been a very different scrap. Hats off to Floyd though he is very special.

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:33 am

YDKSAB wrote:Canelo got completely SCHOOLED. Now to sit back and watch the HATERS try to HATE on Money!!! DAMN it must burn them. Canelo 15 pounds HEAVIER and Mayweather able to BACK HIM UP and some fools saying he RUNS???

Now lets see the HATERS say Canelo was NO GOOD and Money should fight Martinez or Ward next!!!

DAMN!
Too much fizzy pop?

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Post by Lance Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:34 am

116-112 seems pretty fair. canelo had a good go between rounds 8 and 11. I don't think he ever had the stamina to pressure flloyd for more than half the fight. the footwork was a big difference, mayweathers is top quality and canelo a bit flat footed at times. think flloyd was struggling for pace at the end, did get a big negative but the boos woke him up

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:34 am

He tried to box floyd and wasn't exposed, he was just a millisecond slower and in a year he may just bridge that gap

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Post by Marky Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:35 am

Scottrf wrote:
Marky wrote:
Scottrf wrote:"Alvarez won 4 rounds easily"

You can give him 4 if you like, but please don't say he won 4 easily.
Not meaning he won them easily, but I easily scored them to him.
Yeah, I don't know what that means.
You're implying I said Alvarez won them easily. I'm saying it was easy for me to score them to Alvarez because he was better in those rounds. What's not to get?

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Post by 88Chris05 Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:35 am

I honestly think Mayweather waltzed it. Not at his absolute best, but he didn't need to be. I think he dominated and outclassed Canelo.

I don't want to seem too harsh on Alvarez, but I was expecting more from him. Nowhere near as much urgency or aggression as I expected, particularly early on. Took his lumps but never gave himself a chance with that kind of gameplan.

Definitely the best Mayweather has looked higher than Welterweight mind you, albeit with a catchweight.
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Post by Lance Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:36 am

YDKSAB wrote:Canelo got completely SCHOOLED. Now to sit back and watch the HATERS try to HATE on Money!!! DAMN it must burn them. Canelo 15 pounds HEAVIER and Mayweather able to BACK HIM UP and some fools saying he RUNS???

Now lets see the HATERS say Canelo was NO GOOD and Money should fight Martinez or Ward next!!!

DAMN!
you sound like a hater.

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Post by Marky Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:36 am

The fact is, if Mayweather was at his peak it would have been 120-108, but he backed off in certain rounds and that's the only reason Alvarez was able to win any rounds IMO.

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:37 am

I wonder if this will be called a joke fight because of the two pound catchweight? As Manny's win against Cotto was.

I think they were both great wins, irrelevant asterisk.

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Post by Scottrf Sun 15 Sep 2013, 6:37 am

Marky wrote:You're implying I said Alvarez won them easily. I'm saying it was easy for me to score them to Alvarez because he was better in those rounds. What's not to get?
If it was easy for you to score it to him that implies to me that you thought he won them pretty clearly.

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