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Saracens Rugby Football Club
SARACENS RUGBY FOOTBALL CLUB
Homepage
Full name: Saracens Football Club
Union: Rugby Football Union
Nickname: Sarries
Founded: 1876
Location: St. Albans, England
Ground: Vicarage Road, Watford (Capacity: 19,920)
Chairman: Nigel Wray
Captain: John Smit
Competitions: Aviva Premiership, Heineken Cup, Anglo Welsh Cup.
2011–12: Aviva Premiership Runners Up, Heineken Cup Runners Up
2010–11: Aviva Premiership Runners Up, Heineken Cup Semi Finals
2009-10: Guinness Premiership Champions, Heineken Cup Quarter Finals
2008-09 Guinness Premiership Runners Up
COACHING STAFF
Head coach: Ozzy3213
Forwards coach: Jono Gibbes
Scrum coach: Naka Drotske
Defence coach: John Mitchell
Attack coach: Wayne Smith
Academy Manager: Rassie Erasmus
Assistant Manager: Thinus Delport
Senior Squad (40/40)
Nat | Pos | Name | dob | Height | Weight | Caps | Between | Points | Tries | Cons | Pens | DG |
HK | John Smit | 03/04/1978 | 6ft 2ins | 19st | 111 | 2000-2011 | 40 | 8 | - | - | - | |
HK | Bismarck du Plessis | 22/05/1984 | 6ft 2ins | 17st 12lbs | 45 | 2007- | 30 | 6 | - | - | - | |
HK | George Chuter | 09/07/1976 | 5ft 11ins | 15st 6lbs | 24 | 2006-2010 | 5 | 1 | - | - | - | |
PR | Alex Corbisiero | 30/08/1988 | 6ft 1in | 18st 12lbs | 16 | 2011- | - | - | - | - | - | |
PR | Matt Mullan | 23/02/1987 | 6ft | 17st 9lbs | 1 | 2010- | - | - | - | - | - | |
PR | Max Lahiff | 09/12/1989 | 6ft 1in | 18st 3lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
PR | Adam Jones | 08/03/1981 | 6ft | 20st | 85 | 2003- | 10 | 2 | - | - | - | |
PR | Jannie du Plessis | 16/11/1982 | 6ft 2ins | 19st 1lb | 33 | 2007- | 5 | 1 | - | - | - | |
PR | Dave Wilson | 09/04/1985 | 6ft 2ins | 19st 3lbs | 19 | 2009- | - | - | - | - | - | |
PR | Phil Swainston | 12/12/1989 | 6ft | 17st 5lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
LK | Lionel Nallet | 14/09/1976 | 6ft 5ins | 18st 2lbs | 74 | 2000-2012 | 45 | 9 | - | - | - | |
LK | Steve Borthwick | 12/10/1979 | 6ft 6ins | 17st 11lbs | 57 | 2001-2010 | 10 | 2 | - | - | - | |
LK | Rob Simmons | 19/04/1989 | 6ft 7ins | 18st 2lbs | 20 | 2010- | - | - | - | - | - | |
LK | George Skivington | 03/12/1982 | 6ft 6ins | 18st 2lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
LK | Rynhardt Elstadt | 20/12/1989 | 6ft 6ins | 18st 2lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FL | George Smith | 14/07/1980 | 5ft 11ins | 16st 3 lbs | 110 | 2000-2009 | 45 | 9 | - | - | - | |
FL | Alessandro Zanni | 31/01/1984 | 6ft 3ins | 16st 8lbs | 65 | 2005- | 10 | 2 | - | - | - | |
FL | Thierry Dusautoir | 18/11/1981 | 6ft 2ins | 15st 10lbs | 54 | 2006- | 30 | 6 | - | - | - | |
FL | Ross Rennie | 29/03/1986 | 6ft 1in | 16st | 19 | 2008- | - | - | - | - | - | |
FL | Ofisa Treviranus | 31/03/1984 | 6ft 2in | 17st | 19 | 2009- | 5 | 1 | - | - | - | |
FL | Tom Johnson | 16/07/1982 | 6ft 2ins | 16st 3lbs | 3 | 2012- | - | - | - | - | - | |
N8 | Joe van Niekerk | 14/05/1980 | 6ft 4ins | 17st | 52 | 2001-2010 | 50 | 10 | - | - | - | |
N8 | Duane Vermeulen | 03/07/1986 | 6ft 4ins | 18st 4lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
SH | Morgan Parra | 15/11/1988 | 5ft 11ins | 12st 2lbs | 42 | 2008- | 274 | 2 | 36 | 63 | 1 | |
SH | Francois Hougaard | 06/04/1988 | 5ft 10ins | 14st 2lbs | 18 | 2009- | 20 | 4 | - | - | - | |
SH | Paul Hodgson | 25/04/1982 | 5ft 8ins | 12st 6lbs | 9 | 2008- | - | - | - | - | - | |
SH | Dewaldt Duvenage | 22/05/1988 | 5ft 8ins | 12st 4lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FH | Francois Trinh-Duc | 11/11/1986 | 6ft | 13st 5lbs | 41 | 2008- | 70 | 9 | 2 | 1 | 6 | |
FH | Ian Humphreys | 24/04/1982 | 5ft 11ins | 13st 1lb | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
CE | Ma'a Nonu | 21/05/1982 | 6ft | 16st 10lbs | 66 | 2003- | 110 | 22 | - | - | - | |
CE | Jonathan Davies | 05/04/1988 | 6ft 1in | 16st 3lbs | 29 | 2009- | 40 | 8 | - | - | - | |
CE | Tom Casson | 06/04/1990 | 6ft | 14st 2lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
CE | Henry Trinder | 14/04/1989 | 6ft | 13st 5lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
CE | Nevin Spence | 26/04/1990 | 6ft | 14st 13lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
WG | Bryan Habana | 12/06/1983 | 5ft 11ins | 14st 11lbs | 77 | 2004- | 200 | 40 | - | - | - | |
WG | Mark Cueto | 26/12/1979 | 6ft | 15st | 56 | 2001-2011 | 100 | 20 | - | - | - | |
WG | Andrew Trimble | 20/10/1984 | 6ft 2ins | 15st 6lbs | 48 | 2005- | 55 | 11 | - | - | - | |
WG | Digby Ioane | 14/07/1985 | 5ft 10ins | 14st 9lbs | 25 | 2007- | 45 | 9 | - | - | - | |
WG | Luke Fitzgerald | 13/09/1987 | 6ft 1in | 14st 7lbs | 24 | 2006- | 10 | 2 | - | - | - | |
FB | Tom Homer | 01/04/1990 | 5ft 10ins | 14st 5lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Senior Academy (19/20)
Nat | Pos | Name | dob | Height | Weight | Caps | Between | Points | Tries | Cons | Pens | DG |
HK | Christopher Tolofua | 31/12/1993 | 6ft | 18st 8lbs | 1 | 2012- | - | - | - | - | - | |
HK | Tom Cowan-Dickie | 26/05/1991 | 6ft | 16st 5lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
PR | Steven Kitshoff | 10/02/1992 | 6ft | 18st 12lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
PR | Frans Malherbe | 14/03/1991 | 6ft 2ins | 18st 12lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
LK | Paul Willemse | 13/11/1992 | 6ft 7ins | 20st | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
LK | Addison Lockley | 25/10/1991 | 6ft 6ins | 16st 7lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
LK | Ruan Botha | 10/01/1992 | 6ft 8ins | 17st 11lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FL | Siya Kolisi | 16/06/1991 | 6ft 2ins | 15st 13lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FL | Luke Wallace | 02/10/1990 | 6ft 1in | 14st 13lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
N8 | Alex Gray | 01/05/1991 | 6ft 5ins | 16st 7lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
SH | Eric Escande | 18/11/1992 | 5ft 9ins | 12st 4lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
SH | James Lightfoot-Brown | 21/06/1993 | 5ft 8ins | 11st 13lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FH | Owen Farrell | 24/09/1991 | 6ft 2ins | 15st 1lb | 8 | 2012- | 81 | - | 6 | 23 | - | |
FH | Patric Lambie | 17/10/1990 | 5ft 10ins | 14st 6lbs | 13 | 2011- | 6 | - | 3 | - | - | |
CE | Pat Howard | 21/03/1991 | 6ft 2ins | 15st 13lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
WG | Milford Keresoma | 01/02/1992 | 5ft 10ins | 14st 13lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
WG | Oliver Cicognini | TBC | TBC | TBC | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FB | Jaco Taute | 21/03/1991 | 6ft 3ins | 15st 11lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FB | Jack Nowell | 11/04/1993 | 5ft 11ins | 14st | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Protected Academy
Scott Spurling
Max Crumpton
Nick Auterac
Tom Jubb
Maro Itoje
Matt Hankin
Sam James
James Thacker
Thomas Chapman
Nathan Earle
Charlie Kingsman
Nick Tompkins
Josh Sharp
Playing record under current head coach
Premiership
Home: P 47 W 42 D 3 L 2
Away: P 43 W 18 D 10 L 15
Neutral: P 4 W 1 D 0 L 3
Total: P 94 W 61 D 13 L 20 PF 2142 PA 1803 TF 236 TA 154
Heineken Cup
Home: P 12 W 12 D 0 L 0
Away: P 11 W 8 D 1 L 2
Neutral: P 1 W 0 D 0 L 1
Total: P 24 W 20 D 1 L 3
Anglo Welsh Cup
Home: P 6 W 4 D 0 L 2
Away: P 7 W 2 D 0 L 5
Total: P 13 W 6 D 0 L 7
Total Playing Record
Home: P 65 W 58 D 3 L 4
Away: P 61 W 28 D 11 L 22
Neutral: P 5 W 1 D 0 L 4
Total: P 131 W 87 D 14 L 30
Budget: £12 million
(all stats correct as of 14/08/2012)
Last edited by Ozzy3213 on Tue 14 Aug 2012, 10:44 pm; edited 133 times in total
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Looks a lot better with the badge at the top lol
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At the moment I have no intention to sell Gibson. You will be first to know if I consider selling.
I am open to letting Humphreys go but I would need a 10 in return.
Interested in Farrell but I am not sure you'd want to get rid.
Interested in Adam Jones as well. Could perhaps involve Castro in a deal for him.
I am open to letting Humphreys go but I would need a 10 in return.
Interested in Farrell but I am not sure you'd want to get rid.
Interested in Adam Jones as well. Could perhaps involve Castro in a deal for him.
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I would be interested in that deal.
Humphreys for Priestland + ? is what you mean yes?
What sort of squad players would you be thinking?
Humphreys for Priestland + ? is what you mean yes?
What sort of squad players would you be thinking?
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I would do Humphreys for Priestland and 5 million?
If you accept it its probably best to confirm after the switch is complete.
If you accept it its probably best to confirm after the switch is complete.
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Need an English starter back so one of
Cueto
Wood
Corbs
needs to be in deal!
Would say Mullan but have Golding which is barely a gain
Cueto
Wood
Corbs
needs to be in deal!
Would say Mullan but have Golding which is barely a gain
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You appear to be bringing in some good young English talent in. Is this a plan or just coincidence?
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Monye is younger though so not a huge difference now. Suggest?
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I'll need to work out how much cash I have before I go through with that!
Will try and do so over this weekend but have 6 GCSE's this week so definitely by weekend after
Will try and do so over this weekend but have 6 GCSE's this week so definitely by weekend after
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Anything for Twelvetrees yet?
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Not for sale, think he will get even better at Toulon playing with Lobbe and JVN in the backrow.
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Can't really see myself letting Fourie go.
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Wasn't looking to break up my backrow but everyone has a price. Would need a very offer for the best BS about though (goes without saying)
Mullen, Wood, PARRA, Pocock, Kitchener, 36, Cory Jane.
Really keen on getting Parra involved
Mullen, Wood, PARRA, Pocock, Kitchener, 36, Cory Jane.
Really keen on getting Parra involved
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I think i'd rather stick with Hines - he has the ability to fill in at 6 which Nallet doesn't.
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Would need better players than Mullen and 36 involved for Juan Smith mate, I meant as make shifts in something.
Wiggles + Juan Smith + Stanks + Gray
Parra + Wood + Corbs + 36
That's not an offer but something along them lines
Wiggles + Juan Smith + Stanks + Gray
Parra + Wood + Corbs + 36
That's not an offer but something along them lines
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No thanks
Lose English
Then lose out on Brussow
Then about equal on the Monye = Cueto cos of age and not going to world cup imo
Lose English
Then lose out on Brussow
Then about equal on the Monye = Cueto cos of age and not going to world cup imo
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I don't really need Jane if I'm honest although I do love him. Think we might struggle on that offer mate, think we're miles apart.
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No mate, you offer good deals but different people look different things, sometimes takes a bit of work to make it happen that's all.
I'd need to gain big in another area to split the best backrow in the league up lol
I'd need to gain big in another area to split the best backrow in the league up lol
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I like your policy...I never needed Barnes so that deal set me up to get in Bowe and Read in which was possibly the turning point for my season. You've got to gamble a little....they don't all pay off! I've done some stinkers!
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Amazed your bath offer did not get accepted. Brussouw barely played in ages and no guarantee of returning to the same form. For me mathie offers me nothing
Not even hear of him sorry.
Not even hear of him sorry.
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Very fair offer. However I do not want to get rid of so many players.
Holah is good but one of those players I hold an irrational hatred of.
I will have a think on it and may come back with a smaller but equally fair offer
Holah is good but one of those players I hold an irrational hatred of.
I will have a think on it and may come back with a smaller but equally fair offer
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Lualala is still awesome in defence, and a very, very good go to man for my style of tactics. He's won Magners player of the season twice as well I think!
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Saull, roussouw and vainokolo for rowan narroway and short
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Saw that you might be getting rid of Pocock, could be tempted with a swap for Elsom - but unsure...
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Scrub that sorry pressed send too early before thinking.
Saull, roussow, vainokolo for zanni, narroway and short ?
Saull, roussow, vainokolo for zanni, narroway and short ?
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Wouldnt get rid of PArisse for all the money around! Think he's the best no8 in the world by some distance.
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Would need a top draw English player back for Robshaw Pete, 36 is still potential. Prob talking Mullen + 36 + Kitchener....is something I'd consider but doubt you'd like.
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I never said you'd like it lol
Rate Robshaw very highly as do most I think
Rate Robshaw very highly as do most I think
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What do you want for Wood pete?
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Heinrich Brussow
Dan Lydiate
The English pair are not really for sale. Monye I wouldn't give up £5m for Cueto.
Mears you can't really offer EQ in a place where I don't have one :/
Brussow needs Pocock and a gain elsewhere! Not sure what to offer.
Maestri + Lydiate 4 Zanni + Kirchener
ENQ Not sure I'd do
Dan Lydiate
The English pair are not really for sale. Monye I wouldn't give up £5m for Cueto.
Mears you can't really offer EQ in a place where I don't have one :/
Brussow needs Pocock and a gain elsewhere! Not sure what to offer.
Maestri + Lydiate 4 Zanni + Kirchener
ENQ Not sure I'd do
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Healy + Wallace + Byrne + Rob Coote (acadamy player)
for
Mullen + Pocock + Brown
That's the sort of deal i would look towards as i'm looking to make my back row super competitive.
for
Mullen + Pocock + Brown
That's the sort of deal i would look towards as i'm looking to make my back row super competitive.
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Hines + Croft + Molenaar
For
Nallet + Pocock + 36 + Cueto
Just an Enq. Not sure about losing Croft.
For
Nallet + Pocock + 36 + Cueto
Just an Enq. Not sure about losing Croft.
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No probs mate, I'm loving this no 3 minute thing!!!
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Nallet is older than Hines so not sure what that has to do with anything.
Have Croft down as world class and England's best forward. Not to worry.
Have Croft down as world class and England's best forward. Not to worry.
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It's certainly growing on me
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Any chance we could knock something together for Bam Bam?
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Pocock lol
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out of that list, woodcock and botes are available.
what can you offer?
what can you offer?
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For Houghard I'd be looking for a deal involving Ioane or Cueto really.
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really not keen on losing Freuen mate. Looks like being the All black 13for the next 8 odd years! Could lose Quedragao if Pocock was coming my way in some kind of deal
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am interested in corbs, beast, adam jones, pocock and wood.
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Had a little think
Parra + Pocock 4 Brussow + FDP
Parra + Pocock 4 Brussow + FDP
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Not sure what we can do for Brussow then :/
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You happy with the Gray deal mate?
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