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Saracens Rugby Football Club
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Homepage
Full name: Saracens Football Club
Union: Rugby Football Union
Nickname: Sarries
Founded: 1876
Location: St. Albans, England
Ground: Vicarage Road, Watford (Capacity: 19,920)
Chairman: Nigel Wray
Captain: John Smit
Competitions: Aviva Premiership, Heineken Cup, Anglo Welsh Cup.
2011–12: Aviva Premiership Runners Up, Heineken Cup Runners Up
2010–11: Aviva Premiership Runners Up, Heineken Cup Semi Finals
2009-10: Guinness Premiership Champions, Heineken Cup Quarter Finals
2008-09 Guinness Premiership Runners Up
COACHING STAFF
Head coach: Ozzy3213
Forwards coach: Jono Gibbes
Scrum coach: Naka Drotske
Defence coach: John Mitchell
Attack coach: Wayne Smith
Academy Manager: Rassie Erasmus
Assistant Manager: Thinus Delport
Senior Squad (40/40)
Senior Academy (19/20)
Protected Academy
Scott Spurling
Max Crumpton
Nick Auterac
Tom Jubb
Maro Itoje
Matt Hankin
Sam James
James Thacker
Thomas Chapman
Nathan Earle
Charlie Kingsman
Nick Tompkins
Josh Sharp
Playing record under current head coach
Premiership
Home: P 47 W 42 D 3 L 2
Away: P 43 W 18 D 10 L 15
Neutral: P 4 W 1 D 0 L 3
Total: P 94 W 61 D 13 L 20 PF 2142 PA 1803 TF 236 TA 154
Heineken Cup
Home: P 12 W 12 D 0 L 0
Away: P 11 W 8 D 1 L 2
Neutral: P 1 W 0 D 0 L 1
Total: P 24 W 20 D 1 L 3
Anglo Welsh Cup
Home: P 6 W 4 D 0 L 2
Away: P 7 W 2 D 0 L 5
Total: P 13 W 6 D 0 L 7
Total Playing Record
Home: P 65 W 58 D 3 L 4
Away: P 61 W 28 D 11 L 22
Neutral: P 5 W 1 D 0 L 4
Total: P 131 W 87 D 14 L 30
Budget: £12 million
(all stats correct as of 14/08/2012)
SARACENS RUGBY FOOTBALL CLUB
Homepage
Full name: Saracens Football Club
Union: Rugby Football Union
Nickname: Sarries
Founded: 1876
Location: St. Albans, England
Ground: Vicarage Road, Watford (Capacity: 19,920)
Chairman: Nigel Wray
Captain: John Smit
Competitions: Aviva Premiership, Heineken Cup, Anglo Welsh Cup.
2011–12: Aviva Premiership Runners Up, Heineken Cup Runners Up
2010–11: Aviva Premiership Runners Up, Heineken Cup Semi Finals
2009-10: Guinness Premiership Champions, Heineken Cup Quarter Finals
2008-09 Guinness Premiership Runners Up
COACHING STAFF
Head coach: Ozzy3213
Forwards coach: Jono Gibbes
Scrum coach: Naka Drotske
Defence coach: John Mitchell
Attack coach: Wayne Smith
Academy Manager: Rassie Erasmus
Assistant Manager: Thinus Delport
Senior Squad (40/40)
Nat | Pos | Name | dob | Height | Weight | Caps | Between | Points | Tries | Cons | Pens | DG |
HK | John Smit | 03/04/1978 | 6ft 2ins | 19st | 111 | 2000-2011 | 40 | 8 | - | - | - | |
HK | Bismarck du Plessis | 22/05/1984 | 6ft 2ins | 17st 12lbs | 45 | 2007- | 30 | 6 | - | - | - | |
HK | George Chuter | 09/07/1976 | 5ft 11ins | 15st 6lbs | 24 | 2006-2010 | 5 | 1 | - | - | - | |
PR | Alex Corbisiero | 30/08/1988 | 6ft 1in | 18st 12lbs | 16 | 2011- | - | - | - | - | - | |
PR | Matt Mullan | 23/02/1987 | 6ft | 17st 9lbs | 1 | 2010- | - | - | - | - | - | |
PR | Max Lahiff | 09/12/1989 | 6ft 1in | 18st 3lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
PR | Adam Jones | 08/03/1981 | 6ft | 20st | 85 | 2003- | 10 | 2 | - | - | - | |
PR | Jannie du Plessis | 16/11/1982 | 6ft 2ins | 19st 1lb | 33 | 2007- | 5 | 1 | - | - | - | |
PR | Dave Wilson | 09/04/1985 | 6ft 2ins | 19st 3lbs | 19 | 2009- | - | - | - | - | - | |
PR | Phil Swainston | 12/12/1989 | 6ft | 17st 5lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
LK | Lionel Nallet | 14/09/1976 | 6ft 5ins | 18st 2lbs | 74 | 2000-2012 | 45 | 9 | - | - | - | |
LK | Steve Borthwick | 12/10/1979 | 6ft 6ins | 17st 11lbs | 57 | 2001-2010 | 10 | 2 | - | - | - | |
LK | Rob Simmons | 19/04/1989 | 6ft 7ins | 18st 2lbs | 20 | 2010- | - | - | - | - | - | |
LK | George Skivington | 03/12/1982 | 6ft 6ins | 18st 2lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
LK | Rynhardt Elstadt | 20/12/1989 | 6ft 6ins | 18st 2lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FL | George Smith | 14/07/1980 | 5ft 11ins | 16st 3 lbs | 110 | 2000-2009 | 45 | 9 | - | - | - | |
FL | Alessandro Zanni | 31/01/1984 | 6ft 3ins | 16st 8lbs | 65 | 2005- | 10 | 2 | - | - | - | |
FL | Thierry Dusautoir | 18/11/1981 | 6ft 2ins | 15st 10lbs | 54 | 2006- | 30 | 6 | - | - | - | |
FL | Ross Rennie | 29/03/1986 | 6ft 1in | 16st | 19 | 2008- | - | - | - | - | - | |
FL | Ofisa Treviranus | 31/03/1984 | 6ft 2in | 17st | 19 | 2009- | 5 | 1 | - | - | - | |
FL | Tom Johnson | 16/07/1982 | 6ft 2ins | 16st 3lbs | 3 | 2012- | - | - | - | - | - | |
N8 | Joe van Niekerk | 14/05/1980 | 6ft 4ins | 17st | 52 | 2001-2010 | 50 | 10 | - | - | - | |
N8 | Duane Vermeulen | 03/07/1986 | 6ft 4ins | 18st 4lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
SH | Morgan Parra | 15/11/1988 | 5ft 11ins | 12st 2lbs | 42 | 2008- | 274 | 2 | 36 | 63 | 1 | |
SH | Francois Hougaard | 06/04/1988 | 5ft 10ins | 14st 2lbs | 18 | 2009- | 20 | 4 | - | - | - | |
SH | Paul Hodgson | 25/04/1982 | 5ft 8ins | 12st 6lbs | 9 | 2008- | - | - | - | - | - | |
SH | Dewaldt Duvenage | 22/05/1988 | 5ft 8ins | 12st 4lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FH | Francois Trinh-Duc | 11/11/1986 | 6ft | 13st 5lbs | 41 | 2008- | 70 | 9 | 2 | 1 | 6 | |
FH | Ian Humphreys | 24/04/1982 | 5ft 11ins | 13st 1lb | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
CE | Ma'a Nonu | 21/05/1982 | 6ft | 16st 10lbs | 66 | 2003- | 110 | 22 | - | - | - | |
CE | Jonathan Davies | 05/04/1988 | 6ft 1in | 16st 3lbs | 29 | 2009- | 40 | 8 | - | - | - | |
CE | Tom Casson | 06/04/1990 | 6ft | 14st 2lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
CE | Henry Trinder | 14/04/1989 | 6ft | 13st 5lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
CE | Nevin Spence | 26/04/1990 | 6ft | 14st 13lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
WG | Bryan Habana | 12/06/1983 | 5ft 11ins | 14st 11lbs | 77 | 2004- | 200 | 40 | - | - | - | |
WG | Mark Cueto | 26/12/1979 | 6ft | 15st | 56 | 2001-2011 | 100 | 20 | - | - | - | |
WG | Andrew Trimble | 20/10/1984 | 6ft 2ins | 15st 6lbs | 48 | 2005- | 55 | 11 | - | - | - | |
WG | Digby Ioane | 14/07/1985 | 5ft 10ins | 14st 9lbs | 25 | 2007- | 45 | 9 | - | - | - | |
WG | Luke Fitzgerald | 13/09/1987 | 6ft 1in | 14st 7lbs | 24 | 2006- | 10 | 2 | - | - | - | |
FB | Tom Homer | 01/04/1990 | 5ft 10ins | 14st 5lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Senior Academy (19/20)
Nat | Pos | Name | dob | Height | Weight | Caps | Between | Points | Tries | Cons | Pens | DG |
HK | Christopher Tolofua | 31/12/1993 | 6ft | 18st 8lbs | 1 | 2012- | - | - | - | - | - | |
HK | Tom Cowan-Dickie | 26/05/1991 | 6ft | 16st 5lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
PR | Steven Kitshoff | 10/02/1992 | 6ft | 18st 12lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
PR | Frans Malherbe | 14/03/1991 | 6ft 2ins | 18st 12lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
LK | Paul Willemse | 13/11/1992 | 6ft 7ins | 20st | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
LK | Addison Lockley | 25/10/1991 | 6ft 6ins | 16st 7lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
LK | Ruan Botha | 10/01/1992 | 6ft 8ins | 17st 11lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FL | Siya Kolisi | 16/06/1991 | 6ft 2ins | 15st 13lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FL | Luke Wallace | 02/10/1990 | 6ft 1in | 14st 13lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
N8 | Alex Gray | 01/05/1991 | 6ft 5ins | 16st 7lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
SH | Eric Escande | 18/11/1992 | 5ft 9ins | 12st 4lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
SH | James Lightfoot-Brown | 21/06/1993 | 5ft 8ins | 11st 13lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FH | Owen Farrell | 24/09/1991 | 6ft 2ins | 15st 1lb | 8 | 2012- | 81 | - | 6 | 23 | - | |
FH | Patric Lambie | 17/10/1990 | 5ft 10ins | 14st 6lbs | 13 | 2011- | 6 | - | 3 | - | - | |
CE | Pat Howard | 21/03/1991 | 6ft 2ins | 15st 13lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
WG | Milford Keresoma | 01/02/1992 | 5ft 10ins | 14st 13lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
WG | Oliver Cicognini | TBC | TBC | TBC | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FB | Jaco Taute | 21/03/1991 | 6ft 3ins | 15st 11lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FB | Jack Nowell | 11/04/1993 | 5ft 11ins | 14st | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Protected Academy
Scott Spurling
Max Crumpton
Nick Auterac
Tom Jubb
Maro Itoje
Matt Hankin
Sam James
James Thacker
Thomas Chapman
Nathan Earle
Charlie Kingsman
Nick Tompkins
Josh Sharp
Playing record under current head coach
Premiership
Home: P 47 W 42 D 3 L 2
Away: P 43 W 18 D 10 L 15
Neutral: P 4 W 1 D 0 L 3
Total: P 94 W 61 D 13 L 20 PF 2142 PA 1803 TF 236 TA 154
Heineken Cup
Home: P 12 W 12 D 0 L 0
Away: P 11 W 8 D 1 L 2
Neutral: P 1 W 0 D 0 L 1
Total: P 24 W 20 D 1 L 3
Anglo Welsh Cup
Home: P 6 W 4 D 0 L 2
Away: P 7 W 2 D 0 L 5
Total: P 13 W 6 D 0 L 7
Total Playing Record
Home: P 65 W 58 D 3 L 4
Away: P 61 W 28 D 11 L 22
Neutral: P 5 W 1 D 0 L 4
Total: P 131 W 87 D 14 L 30
Budget: £12 million
(all stats correct as of 14/08/2012)
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Like the look of your backline, the Farrell and 36 midfield should work really well and you couldnt really find two better points machines at the moment!
Was surprised how well 36 played at 13 the other day against Wasps, took his tries very well. Hope he gets some gametime at 12 for Tigers though, he could still be a special player. Reminds me of Greenwood...who can kick!
Was surprised how well 36 played at 13 the other day against Wasps, took his tries very well. Hope he gets some gametime at 12 for Tigers though, he could still be a special player. Reminds me of Greenwood...who can kick!
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You consider anything for Nonu Pete?
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Who would you want as the replacement and i'll go from there.
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Do you still fancy Mears?
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I like mullan, jvn and a few others...
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Quite like to keep him being EQ and expected to be available all year.
Wouldn't be after an 8 in particular. Guess I'd be looking at Wood.
Wouldn't be after an 8 in particular. Guess I'd be looking at Wood.
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I'm struggling to think of anything mate
looking at your wingers you don't really need him anyway, just think its a personal thing!!
looking at your wingers you don't really need him anyway, just think its a personal thing!!
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SBW and Tagicakibau
for
Nonu and Toeava
for
Nonu and Toeava
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haha knew you would say that
hater!
hater!
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Needs to be a biggy
Lakafia
for
Narraway + Bell
Lakafia
for
Narraway + Bell
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No problem mate , looking at it again it's a poor offer for you.
I'm happy for you to make the first offer.
I'm happy for you to make the first offer.
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Anything for Mullen, 36, Kitchener, Trinder?
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Yeh good game mate
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Obviously wouldn't do world class for youngsters but I'm open to ideas. What you thinking?
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What for Scaysbrook bud?
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Any chance of FTD/Lambie in the deal
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Ozzy3213 (LDCPete) wrote:Am struggling to see a deal if I'm honest, best I can do James Scaysbrook, Ollie Smith and Marcus Watson for him.
Gives you 3 good solid EQ options who are available all year.
I'v got zero interest in Smith or Watson mate , How about Lakafia for Scaysbrooke and Big Bob?
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Cueto and Davies interest me mate.
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Cueto
for
Fitz??
for
Fitz??
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What for Cueto on his own?
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Be interested in bringing 36 home.
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Traille for 36?
Hmmm. Traille's boot is something I was hoping to use a lot in the winter months, but it's a good offer.
Let me mull it over for a bit.
Hmmm. Traille's boot is something I was hoping to use a lot in the winter months, but it's a good offer.
Let me mull it over for a bit.
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Can't do that mate, both players are key for me. Anyone else interest you?
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Yeh I'll take a punt mate.
Will stick it on confirmed.
Will stick it on confirmed.
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Not sure what I could add to that mate, rate Mermoz higher than JD so hard to send something back. Slater maybe?
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That was a quick one lol
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would you be interested in Lualala for Twelvetrees mate, he's looked good last few weeks and would add the physicality your midfield lacks?
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I understand you prob need English back it would make no sense taking on two 12's and losing a possible English starter in another position. Taking JD for Mermoz is a decent step down as it is so I couldn't then add an English player of similar quality of 36.
Could negotiate but it needs to look like:
Mermoz > JD
......... < 36
Could make it a little bigger maybe but no probs if you want to leave it
Could negotiate but it needs to look like:
Mermoz > JD
......... < 36
Could make it a little bigger maybe but no probs if you want to leave it
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I'm never syre about 36, some days I think he's the answer to ENgland's no12 shirt then other days I think he barely justifies selection for the Leicester match day squad. Think he's a major talent, but probably needs to move clubs to fulfil it - he should go Saints in real life I think.
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What's happening mate? Deal is on confirms.
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Typical! Was looking great too, could have made the difference for them. Dodgy injury, hopefully be back before end of season
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No deal mate, Roberts is playing really well at the moment and will be a key player for me. Also Thompson is too good a player to let go for Chuter.
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He hasn't been bad during the WC has he
Parra/FTD/Ioane/Corbs interest me; anything you can see there
Parra/FTD/Ioane/Corbs interest me; anything you can see there
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Well you were right
I feel my line up is actually quite strong now but I'd consider my halfbacks my worst position atm
I feel my line up is actually quite strong now but I'd consider my halfbacks my worst position atm
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What for Cueto on his own mate?
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Ok then mate
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I was unsure at the time of the deal but has worked big time for me. Never in a million years expected him to leapfrog Hook and Jones to be the Wales 10!!
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As much as I do need Cueto I can't bring myself to let Johnson or Thompson go, they are both vital players for me.
Roberts has had a fantastic world cup, and again will be a key player for me, so I can't see myself letting him go.
Roberts has had a fantastic world cup, and again will be a key player for me, so I can't see myself letting him go.
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Would you sell Kruis mate?
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No idea what his value is mate, I've seen him play one game and really dont know whether he's any good or not, but am needing another lock. What sort of similar players are there in my squad you see?
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Couldnt do Wray, I actually coached him a bit at my club Westcliff before Sarries took him in. Didnt think he'd get as far as he has done in all honesty. Would it be same sort of level for him then?
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Have got Sam Harrison, who is pretty special no9 for Tigers, plays all their cup games.
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WHat about Luke Watson for him?
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Should be a good game this week, you've got a load of good youngsters at your club! I'm quite lucky that Saints academy is benefitting from having Dusty Hare there in real life, he's probably the best at spotting young players and Saints have a load coming through.
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