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Full name: Saracens Football Club
Union: Rugby Football Union
Nickname: Sarries
Founded: 1876
Location: St. Albans, England
Ground: Vicarage Road, Watford (Capacity: 19,920)
Chairman: Nigel Wray
Captain: John Smit
Competitions: Aviva Premiership, Heineken Cup, Anglo Welsh Cup.
2011–12: Aviva Premiership Runners Up, Heineken Cup Runners Up
2010–11: Aviva Premiership Runners Up, Heineken Cup Semi Finals
2009-10: Guinness Premiership Champions, Heineken Cup Quarter Finals
2008-09 Guinness Premiership Runners Up





COACHING STAFF

Head coach:
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Forwards coach: Jono Gibbes
Scrum coach: Naka Drotske
Defence coach: John Mitchell
Attack coach: Wayne Smith

Academy Manager: Rassie Erasmus
Assistant Manager: Thinus Delport




Senior Squad (40/40)

Nat PosNamedob Height Weight Caps Between Points Tries Cons Pens DG
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg HKJohn Smit03/04/1978 6ft 2ins 19st111 2000-2011 40 8 - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg HK Bismarck du Plessis 22/05/19846ft 2ins 17st 12lbs 452007- 30 6 - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svg HKGeorge Chuter09/07/1976 5ft 11ins 15st 6lbs 242006-201051 - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgPRAlex Corbisiero30/08/1988 6ft 1in 18st 12lbs 16 2011- - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgPRMatt Mullan23/02/1987 6ft 17st 9lbs 1 2010- - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgPRMax Lahiff09/12/1989 6ft 1in18st 3lbs 0 - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_Wales_2.svgPRAdam Jones08/03/1981 6ft 20st 85 2003- 10 2 - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svgPRJannie du Plessis16/11/1982 6ft 2ins19st 1lb 33 2007- 5 1 - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgPRDave Wilson09/04/1985 6ft 2ins19st 3lbs 19 2009- - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgPRPhil Swainston12/12/1989 6ft 17st 5lbs 0 - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_France.svgLKLionel Nallet14/09/1976 6ft 5ins18st 2lbs 74 2000-2012 45 9 - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgLKSteve Borthwick12/10/1979 6ft 6ins17st 11lbs 57 2001-2010 10 2 - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_Australia.svgLKRob Simmons19/04/1989 6ft 7ins18st 2lbs 20 2010- - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgLKGeorge Skivington03/12/1982 6ft 6ins 18st 2lbs 0 - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svgLKRynhardt Elstadt20/12/1989 6ft 6ins18st 2lbs 0 - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_Australia.svgFLGeorge Smith14/07/1980 5ft 11ins 16st 3 lbs 110 2000-2009 45 9 - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_Italy.svgFLAlessandro Zanni31/01/1984 6ft 3ins16st 8lbs 65 2005- 10 2 - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_France.svgFLThierry Dusautoir18/11/1981 6ft 2ins 15st 10lbs 54 2006- 30 6 - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_Scotland.svgFLRoss Rennie29/03/1986 6ft 1in16st 19 2008- - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_Samoa.svgFLOfisa Treviranus31/03/1984 6ft 2in17st 19 2009- 5 1 - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgFLTom Johnson16/07/1982 6ft 2ins16st 3lbs 3 2012- - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svgN8Joe van Niekerk14/05/1980 6ft 4ins17st 52 2001-2010 50 10 - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svgN8Duane Vermeulen03/07/1986 6ft 4ins18st 4lbs0 - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_France.svgSHMorgan Parra15/11/1988 5ft 11ins12st 2lbs 42 2008- 274 2 36 63 1
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svgSHFrancois Hougaard06/04/1988 5ft 10ins 14st 2lbs 18 2009- 20 4 - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgSHPaul Hodgson25/04/1982 5ft 8ins12st 6lbs 9 2008- - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svgSHDewaldt Duvenage 22/05/1988 5ft 8ins 12st 4lbs 0 - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_France.svgFHFrancois Trinh-Duc11/11/1986 6ft 13st 5lbs 41 2008- 70 9 2 1 6
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-IRFU_flag.svgFHIan Humphreys24/04/1982 5ft 11ins13st 1lb 0 - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svgCEMa'a Nonu21/05/1982 6ft 16st 10lbs 66 2003- 110 22 - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_Wales_2.svgCEJonathan Davies05/04/1988 6ft 1in16st 3lbs 29 2009- 40 8 - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgCETom Casson06/04/1990 6ft 14st 2lbs 0 - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgCEHenry Trinder14/04/1989 6ft 13st 5lbs 0 - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-IRFU_flag.svgCENevin Spence26/04/1990 6ft 14st 13lbs 0 - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svgWGBryan Habana12/06/1983 5ft 11ins 14st 11lbs 77 2004- 200 40 - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgWGMark Cueto26/12/1979 6ft 15st 56 2001-2011 100 20 - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-IRFU_flag.svgWGAndrew Trimble20/10/1984 6ft 2ins15st 6lbs 48 2005- 55 11 - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_Australia.svgWGDigby Ioane14/07/1985 5ft 10ins14st 9lbs 25 2007- 45 9 - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-IRFU_flag.svgWGLuke Fitzgerald13/09/1987 6ft 1in14st 7lbs 24 2006- 10 2 - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgFBTom Homer01/04/1990 5ft 10ins14st 5lbs 0 - - - - - -


Senior Academy (19/20)

Nat PosNamedob Height Weight CapsBetween Points Tries Cons Pens DG
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_France.svgHKChristopher Tolofua31/12/1993 6ft 18st 8lbs 1 2012- - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgHKTom Cowan-Dickie26/05/1991 6ft16st 5lbs - - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svgPRSteven Kitshoff10/02/1992 6ft18st 12lbs - - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svgPRFrans Malherbe14/03/1991 6ft 2ins 18st 12lbs - - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svgLKPaul Willemse13/11/1992 6ft 7ins 20st - - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgLKAddison Lockley25/10/1991 6ft 6ins16st 7lbs - - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svgLKRuan Botha10/01/1992 6ft 8ins 17st 11lbs - - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svgFLSiya Kolisi16/06/1991 6ft 2ins15st 13lbs - - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgFLLuke Wallace02/10/1990 6ft 1in14st 13lbs - - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgN8Alex Gray01/05/1991 6ft 5ins16st 7lbs - - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_France.svgSHEric Escande18/11/1992 5ft 9ins12st 4lbs - - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgSH James Lightfoot-Brown 21/06/1993 5ft 8ins 11st 13lbs - - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgFH Owen Farrell 24/09/1991 6ft 2ins 15st 1lb 8 2012- 81 - 6 23 -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svgFH Patric Lambie 17/10/1990 5ft 10ins 14st 6lbs 13 2011- 6 - 3 - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svgCE Pat Howard 21/03/1991 6ft 2ins 15st 13lbs - - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svgWG Milford Keresoma 01/02/1992 5ft 10ins 14st 13lbs - - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgWGOliver CicogniniTBC TBCTBC - - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svgFB Jaco Taute 21/03/1991 6ft 3ins 15st 11lbs - - - - - - -
Saracens Rugby Football Club - Page 2 22px-Flag_of_England.svgFB Jack Nowell 11/04/1993 5ft 11ins 14st - - - - - - -


Protected Academy

Scott Spurling
Max Crumpton
Nick Auterac
Tom Jubb
Maro Itoje
Matt Hankin
Sam James
James Thacker

Thomas Chapman
Nathan Earle
Charlie Kingsman
Nick Tompkins
Josh Sharp





Playing record under current head coach

Premiership
Home: P 47 W 42 D 3 L 2
Away: P 43 W 18 D 10 L 15
Neutral: P 4 W 1 D 0 L 3
Total: P 94 W 61 D 13 L 20 PF 2142 PA 1803 TF 236 TA 154

Heineken Cup
Home: P 12 W 12 D 0 L 0
Away: P 11 W 8 D 1 L 2
Neutral: P 1 W 0 D 0 L 1
Total: P 24 W 20 D 1 L 3

Anglo Welsh Cup
Home: P 6 W 4 D 0 L 2
Away: P 7 W 2 D 0 L 5
Total: P 13 W 6 D 0 L 7

Total Playing Record
Home: P 65 W 58 D 3 L 4
Away: P 61 W 28 D 11 L 22
Neutral: P 5 W 1 D 0 L 4

Total: P 131 W 87 D 14 L 30

Budget: £12 million


(all stats correct as of 14/08/2012)



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Post by stnick88 Mon 23 May 2011, 1:04 pm

woodcock and botes
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 23 May 2011, 1:51 pm

Castro + Houghard + cash or another player?

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Jones + Cueto

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 May 2011, 2:00 pm

Do you want to leave that deal mate?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 23 May 2011, 2:14 pm

I would be willing to add:

Neil Briggs
Rob Vickers
Gareth Steenson (not sure if he is EQ or not. heard he may be a while back)

and if you put something else into the deal Jon Clarke or Lewis Moody could be an option.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 23 May 2011, 2:32 pm

think il leave it mate not willing to lose Freuen at the moment sorry

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Post by stnick88 Mon 23 May 2011, 2:45 pm

dont have to have pocock involved, just need world class in return if woodcock is involved.

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Post by Driver Mon 23 May 2011, 3:17 pm

What would it take for me to sign Mullen and Mercy?
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Post by 'Arry Mon 23 May 2011, 3:58 pm

The following players of yours interest me

FL David Pocock (Australia)
WG Mark Cueto (England)
FB Mike Brown (England)

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 May 2011, 4:16 pm

I see what you mean. I tell you what I'll do...we'll do the deal and I'll loan you him back to after the world cup.

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Post by 'Arry Mon 23 May 2011, 4:16 pm

Can't see how we could put together a deal mate would you do Olly Morgan for Mike Brown?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 23 May 2011, 8:38 pm

Pocock and 36.

Can we thrash out a deal?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 May 2011, 8:57 pm

You think the above if fair Pete?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 23 May 2011, 8:58 pm

Prefer both mine Rolling Eyes

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 May 2011, 9:01 pm

I couldn't have tried much more! Lol...anything else?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 May 2011, 9:11 pm

For Mullen....

Rate Mermoz highly (just off world class) mate, would take a substantial gain elsewhere with somebody of a similar standard for him to leave.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 May 2011, 9:23 pm

Can see your thinking but not after losing top class for potential. How about:

Mermoz + Wiggles + Gray + 8m

36 + Parra + Mullen

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 May 2011, 9:31 pm

Kitchener in too might tempt me lol.

Really keen on Parra as you can guess but looks like nothing is happening.

I'm happy to do deals on top players but need similar standard back really. Can see a lot if sides doing well during the WC but it's only a handful of games, not worth losing your best players over.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 May 2011, 9:49 pm

The obvious players interest me Pocock etc but can't see us doing anything for him. I really like Mermoz and I'm prett keen to keep hold.

I do like Mullen & 36 but need quality in to lose Mermoz and just see anyone in that list I fancy.

I'd prob need Parra involved mate, sorry.

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Post by prop_lyd Mon 23 May 2011, 9:59 pm

Not letting strauss go sorry....peel maybe!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 May 2011, 10:00 pm

Yea it seems that way, gotta lose quality to gain it tho lol. No probs mate

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 May 2011, 10:39 pm

Waldouck + Gray + 5m

36 + Mullen

Enq

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 May 2011, 10:45 pm

Ah right, what's happened in 3 hours. Has he broke his leg or something.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 May 2011, 10:53 pm

Be like that then, Parra is pump!!!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 May 2011, 11:18 pm

Does Adam Thompstone interest you in something?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 May 2011, 11:35 pm

Mermoz + Ojo + Slater

36 + Mullen + Jane + Kitchener

Racked my brains mate....

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 24 May 2011, 8:47 am

Needs to get his Worcester place nailed first, Rawlinson starts the bigger matches. I was quite surprised with that as I thought he was doing well in the champ.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 24 May 2011, 9:06 am

Haven't heard that, just thought Rawlinson was prefered. He'll prob start I guess, his loose play is suited to a Ba's game.

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Post by Guest Tue 24 May 2011, 9:23 am

Bizarrely Attwood lacks a bit of nastiness. Always has. Have known of him through local rugby for ages and always the same.

Kitchener does not lack the physical edge it just takes time to hit physical maturity. Rawlinson is one tough man and for the championship and the AP perfect. I released him as i had so many 4s.

Great person for Kitchener to learn off. Personally i really rate kitchener.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 24 May 2011, 9:25 am

Yea agree with that mate, a move to Leicester would work wonders for him. Him and Parling would make a great partnership with Deacon struggling for injuries.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 24 May 2011, 10:14 am

Dus + Toeava + Hines + A.Brown + Steyn
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Pocock + Jane + Nallet + Botha + Davies

Enq.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue 24 May 2011, 10:33 am

Sorry mate completly forgot to get back to you. Seriously tempted by Bezy for 36 but leaves me short at scrummie durning the world cup. Can we hold off for a little while and I'll come back to you after the foreigns?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 24 May 2011, 10:45 am

Really tempted.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 24 May 2011, 11:56 am

Any way of including Chuter into this deal?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 24 May 2011, 12:02 pm

Would you open to a deal based around a Houghard and Rees swap?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 24 May 2011, 12:38 pm

Well I would do

Houghard and Briggs/Vickers for Rees

or as I put yesterday

Jones + Cueto

for

Castro + Houghard + Vickers/Briggs/Croall

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Post by prop_lyd Tue 24 May 2011, 2:04 pm

Can't really afford to lose Barrow (eq) for all on eq players, some of who will be at w.c sorry
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Post by Driver Tue 24 May 2011, 3:02 pm

What would it take for Mullen and mercy?
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 24 May 2011, 3:59 pm

If not Chuteer, what would you be willing to add?

My concerns with the deal are Dus is my captain, and Toeava may potentially be available during the W/C...

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 25 May 2011, 10:42 am

We any closer to getting something done mate?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 25 May 2011, 10:56 am

Toeava + Dus
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Jane + Pocock

Will deal on this then. Stick it on confirms.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 25 May 2011, 11:05 am

My understanding is that you were considering one of these offers.

Houghard and Briggs/Vickers for Rees

or as I put yesterday

Jones + Cueto

for

Castro + Houghard + Vickers/Briggs/Croall





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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 25 May 2011, 11:38 am

I can't lose those players. They are too important to my squad. I wouldn't let them go for any price at the moment.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 25 May 2011, 11:39 am

One deal I could do if you were interested is

Sheridan and Houghard

for

Jones and Rees


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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 25 May 2011, 11:45 am

But you would be getting an England International in the front row? Gold dust

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 25 May 2011, 12:02 pm

Here's my last shot

Sheridan, Castro and Houghard

for

Cueto, Jones and Rees?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 25 May 2011, 12:10 pm

If you need Hines/Nallet involved, i'd want something extra in my favour.

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Post by stnick88 Wed 25 May 2011, 1:01 pm

Sisi and Lowe and ???
for
Mercey and Botha?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 25 May 2011, 1:05 pm

hmmm I am not so happy with losing the EQ for just Rees as Rees will be missing for WC and 6N.

I will get back to you

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 25 May 2011, 1:08 pm

And not injured at the minute and in French squad....that's a terrible offer which I'll counter with Arr for Parra?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 25 May 2011, 1:10 pm

I think Hines > Nallet, and you think the same as you have been chasing that swap for a while.

I also think Cole > Cueto, so I would be weakenening my EQ contingent. I'm not overly fussed on Cueto. He's getting on, and i've got a good set of wingers as it is.

I'm not overly bothered on brining in Jones - I think Jones is going downhill, and Cole uphill, so that swap doesn't really interest me.

Hines, Dusautoir, Toeava
for
Nallet, Pocock, Jane

Is the basis of our negotiations. We both agree on Dus and Pocock even and Toeava and Jane even, but I think (and think you do too) Hines > Nallet, so i need something else in my favour.

Could be any of:

Chuter/Duffey
Wood/Crane
Ranger/Tuilagi
Goode/Allen

Let me know your thoughts thumbsup

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