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Saracens Rugby Football Club
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Homepage
Full name: Saracens Football Club
Union: Rugby Football Union
Nickname: Sarries
Founded: 1876
Location: St. Albans, England
Ground: Vicarage Road, Watford (Capacity: 19,920)
Chairman: Nigel Wray
Captain: John Smit
Competitions: Aviva Premiership, Heineken Cup, Anglo Welsh Cup.
2011–12: Aviva Premiership Runners Up, Heineken Cup Runners Up
2010–11: Aviva Premiership Runners Up, Heineken Cup Semi Finals
2009-10: Guinness Premiership Champions, Heineken Cup Quarter Finals
2008-09 Guinness Premiership Runners Up
COACHING STAFF
Head coach: Ozzy3213
Forwards coach: Jono Gibbes
Scrum coach: Naka Drotske
Defence coach: John Mitchell
Attack coach: Wayne Smith
Academy Manager: Rassie Erasmus
Assistant Manager: Thinus Delport
Senior Squad (40/40)
Senior Academy (19/20)
Protected Academy
Scott Spurling
Max Crumpton
Nick Auterac
Tom Jubb
Maro Itoje
Matt Hankin
Sam James
James Thacker
Thomas Chapman
Nathan Earle
Charlie Kingsman
Nick Tompkins
Josh Sharp
Playing record under current head coach
Premiership
Home: P 47 W 42 D 3 L 2
Away: P 43 W 18 D 10 L 15
Neutral: P 4 W 1 D 0 L 3
Total: P 94 W 61 D 13 L 20 PF 2142 PA 1803 TF 236 TA 154
Heineken Cup
Home: P 12 W 12 D 0 L 0
Away: P 11 W 8 D 1 L 2
Neutral: P 1 W 0 D 0 L 1
Total: P 24 W 20 D 1 L 3
Anglo Welsh Cup
Home: P 6 W 4 D 0 L 2
Away: P 7 W 2 D 0 L 5
Total: P 13 W 6 D 0 L 7
Total Playing Record
Home: P 65 W 58 D 3 L 4
Away: P 61 W 28 D 11 L 22
Neutral: P 5 W 1 D 0 L 4
Total: P 131 W 87 D 14 L 30
Budget: £12 million
(all stats correct as of 14/08/2012)
SARACENS RUGBY FOOTBALL CLUB
Homepage
Full name: Saracens Football Club
Union: Rugby Football Union
Nickname: Sarries
Founded: 1876
Location: St. Albans, England
Ground: Vicarage Road, Watford (Capacity: 19,920)
Chairman: Nigel Wray
Captain: John Smit
Competitions: Aviva Premiership, Heineken Cup, Anglo Welsh Cup.
2011–12: Aviva Premiership Runners Up, Heineken Cup Runners Up
2010–11: Aviva Premiership Runners Up, Heineken Cup Semi Finals
2009-10: Guinness Premiership Champions, Heineken Cup Quarter Finals
2008-09 Guinness Premiership Runners Up
COACHING STAFF
Head coach: Ozzy3213
Forwards coach: Jono Gibbes
Scrum coach: Naka Drotske
Defence coach: John Mitchell
Attack coach: Wayne Smith
Academy Manager: Rassie Erasmus
Assistant Manager: Thinus Delport
Senior Squad (40/40)
Nat | Pos | Name | dob | Height | Weight | Caps | Between | Points | Tries | Cons | Pens | DG |
HK | John Smit | 03/04/1978 | 6ft 2ins | 19st | 111 | 2000-2011 | 40 | 8 | - | - | - | |
HK | Bismarck du Plessis | 22/05/1984 | 6ft 2ins | 17st 12lbs | 45 | 2007- | 30 | 6 | - | - | - | |
HK | George Chuter | 09/07/1976 | 5ft 11ins | 15st 6lbs | 24 | 2006-2010 | 5 | 1 | - | - | - | |
PR | Alex Corbisiero | 30/08/1988 | 6ft 1in | 18st 12lbs | 16 | 2011- | - | - | - | - | - | |
PR | Matt Mullan | 23/02/1987 | 6ft | 17st 9lbs | 1 | 2010- | - | - | - | - | - | |
PR | Max Lahiff | 09/12/1989 | 6ft 1in | 18st 3lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
PR | Adam Jones | 08/03/1981 | 6ft | 20st | 85 | 2003- | 10 | 2 | - | - | - | |
PR | Jannie du Plessis | 16/11/1982 | 6ft 2ins | 19st 1lb | 33 | 2007- | 5 | 1 | - | - | - | |
PR | Dave Wilson | 09/04/1985 | 6ft 2ins | 19st 3lbs | 19 | 2009- | - | - | - | - | - | |
PR | Phil Swainston | 12/12/1989 | 6ft | 17st 5lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
LK | Lionel Nallet | 14/09/1976 | 6ft 5ins | 18st 2lbs | 74 | 2000-2012 | 45 | 9 | - | - | - | |
LK | Steve Borthwick | 12/10/1979 | 6ft 6ins | 17st 11lbs | 57 | 2001-2010 | 10 | 2 | - | - | - | |
LK | Rob Simmons | 19/04/1989 | 6ft 7ins | 18st 2lbs | 20 | 2010- | - | - | - | - | - | |
LK | George Skivington | 03/12/1982 | 6ft 6ins | 18st 2lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
LK | Rynhardt Elstadt | 20/12/1989 | 6ft 6ins | 18st 2lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FL | George Smith | 14/07/1980 | 5ft 11ins | 16st 3 lbs | 110 | 2000-2009 | 45 | 9 | - | - | - | |
FL | Alessandro Zanni | 31/01/1984 | 6ft 3ins | 16st 8lbs | 65 | 2005- | 10 | 2 | - | - | - | |
FL | Thierry Dusautoir | 18/11/1981 | 6ft 2ins | 15st 10lbs | 54 | 2006- | 30 | 6 | - | - | - | |
FL | Ross Rennie | 29/03/1986 | 6ft 1in | 16st | 19 | 2008- | - | - | - | - | - | |
FL | Ofisa Treviranus | 31/03/1984 | 6ft 2in | 17st | 19 | 2009- | 5 | 1 | - | - | - | |
FL | Tom Johnson | 16/07/1982 | 6ft 2ins | 16st 3lbs | 3 | 2012- | - | - | - | - | - | |
N8 | Joe van Niekerk | 14/05/1980 | 6ft 4ins | 17st | 52 | 2001-2010 | 50 | 10 | - | - | - | |
N8 | Duane Vermeulen | 03/07/1986 | 6ft 4ins | 18st 4lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
SH | Morgan Parra | 15/11/1988 | 5ft 11ins | 12st 2lbs | 42 | 2008- | 274 | 2 | 36 | 63 | 1 | |
SH | Francois Hougaard | 06/04/1988 | 5ft 10ins | 14st 2lbs | 18 | 2009- | 20 | 4 | - | - | - | |
SH | Paul Hodgson | 25/04/1982 | 5ft 8ins | 12st 6lbs | 9 | 2008- | - | - | - | - | - | |
SH | Dewaldt Duvenage | 22/05/1988 | 5ft 8ins | 12st 4lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FH | Francois Trinh-Duc | 11/11/1986 | 6ft | 13st 5lbs | 41 | 2008- | 70 | 9 | 2 | 1 | 6 | |
FH | Ian Humphreys | 24/04/1982 | 5ft 11ins | 13st 1lb | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
CE | Ma'a Nonu | 21/05/1982 | 6ft | 16st 10lbs | 66 | 2003- | 110 | 22 | - | - | - | |
CE | Jonathan Davies | 05/04/1988 | 6ft 1in | 16st 3lbs | 29 | 2009- | 40 | 8 | - | - | - | |
CE | Tom Casson | 06/04/1990 | 6ft | 14st 2lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
CE | Henry Trinder | 14/04/1989 | 6ft | 13st 5lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
CE | Nevin Spence | 26/04/1990 | 6ft | 14st 13lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
WG | Bryan Habana | 12/06/1983 | 5ft 11ins | 14st 11lbs | 77 | 2004- | 200 | 40 | - | - | - | |
WG | Mark Cueto | 26/12/1979 | 6ft | 15st | 56 | 2001-2011 | 100 | 20 | - | - | - | |
WG | Andrew Trimble | 20/10/1984 | 6ft 2ins | 15st 6lbs | 48 | 2005- | 55 | 11 | - | - | - | |
WG | Digby Ioane | 14/07/1985 | 5ft 10ins | 14st 9lbs | 25 | 2007- | 45 | 9 | - | - | - | |
WG | Luke Fitzgerald | 13/09/1987 | 6ft 1in | 14st 7lbs | 24 | 2006- | 10 | 2 | - | - | - | |
FB | Tom Homer | 01/04/1990 | 5ft 10ins | 14st 5lbs | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Senior Academy (19/20)
Nat | Pos | Name | dob | Height | Weight | Caps | Between | Points | Tries | Cons | Pens | DG |
HK | Christopher Tolofua | 31/12/1993 | 6ft | 18st 8lbs | 1 | 2012- | - | - | - | - | - | |
HK | Tom Cowan-Dickie | 26/05/1991 | 6ft | 16st 5lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
PR | Steven Kitshoff | 10/02/1992 | 6ft | 18st 12lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
PR | Frans Malherbe | 14/03/1991 | 6ft 2ins | 18st 12lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
LK | Paul Willemse | 13/11/1992 | 6ft 7ins | 20st | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
LK | Addison Lockley | 25/10/1991 | 6ft 6ins | 16st 7lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
LK | Ruan Botha | 10/01/1992 | 6ft 8ins | 17st 11lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FL | Siya Kolisi | 16/06/1991 | 6ft 2ins | 15st 13lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FL | Luke Wallace | 02/10/1990 | 6ft 1in | 14st 13lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
N8 | Alex Gray | 01/05/1991 | 6ft 5ins | 16st 7lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
SH | Eric Escande | 18/11/1992 | 5ft 9ins | 12st 4lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
SH | James Lightfoot-Brown | 21/06/1993 | 5ft 8ins | 11st 13lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FH | Owen Farrell | 24/09/1991 | 6ft 2ins | 15st 1lb | 8 | 2012- | 81 | - | 6 | 23 | - | |
FH | Patric Lambie | 17/10/1990 | 5ft 10ins | 14st 6lbs | 13 | 2011- | 6 | - | 3 | - | - | |
CE | Pat Howard | 21/03/1991 | 6ft 2ins | 15st 13lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
WG | Milford Keresoma | 01/02/1992 | 5ft 10ins | 14st 13lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
WG | Oliver Cicognini | TBC | TBC | TBC | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FB | Jaco Taute | 21/03/1991 | 6ft 3ins | 15st 11lbs | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
FB | Jack Nowell | 11/04/1993 | 5ft 11ins | 14st | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Protected Academy
Scott Spurling
Max Crumpton
Nick Auterac
Tom Jubb
Maro Itoje
Matt Hankin
Sam James
James Thacker
Thomas Chapman
Nathan Earle
Charlie Kingsman
Nick Tompkins
Josh Sharp
Playing record under current head coach
Premiership
Home: P 47 W 42 D 3 L 2
Away: P 43 W 18 D 10 L 15
Neutral: P 4 W 1 D 0 L 3
Total: P 94 W 61 D 13 L 20 PF 2142 PA 1803 TF 236 TA 154
Heineken Cup
Home: P 12 W 12 D 0 L 0
Away: P 11 W 8 D 1 L 2
Neutral: P 1 W 0 D 0 L 1
Total: P 24 W 20 D 1 L 3
Anglo Welsh Cup
Home: P 6 W 4 D 0 L 2
Away: P 7 W 2 D 0 L 5
Total: P 13 W 6 D 0 L 7
Total Playing Record
Home: P 65 W 58 D 3 L 4
Away: P 61 W 28 D 11 L 22
Neutral: P 5 W 1 D 0 L 4
Total: P 131 W 87 D 14 L 30
Budget: £12 million
(all stats correct as of 14/08/2012)
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Well I've been watching S15 for about 12hrs now....
This Elstadt lad looks a real prospect, very raw but seems to have a great game about him. Only being playing lock for a year I heard, can see him and Flip having a right tussle post WC!
Not so impressed with a few other S15 players in the game I'd not seen much of, but you can't win them all.
How is that Pretorious lad not 1st choice SH for the Boks, he looks better every time I see him.
This Elstadt lad looks a real prospect, very raw but seems to have a great game about him. Only being playing lock for a year I heard, can see him and Flip having a right tussle post WC!
Not so impressed with a few other S15 players in the game I'd not seen much of, but you can't win them all.
How is that Pretorious lad not 1st choice SH for the Boks, he looks better every time I see him.
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what for naqa, 12T, brown, botha, mercey ?
stnick88- Posts : 5345
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Would be interested in Brown, where are you looking to improve?
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Also very keen on Mullan!
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sorry fourie nfs...anything else?
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schofield, mapusua
for
botha, naqalevuki
for
botha, naqalevuki
stnick88- Posts : 5345
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Couldnt lose Webber mate, as if I lost him I'd be down to hookers that no one has heard of during the WC - where are you looking to improve?
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Mike Brown really interests me, depends who you'd want in return for him though mate.
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Would need a replacement at hooker
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Anything for Kitchener?
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Cool I will leave it. Was looking at him as a squad player.
He was second choice to Deacon for most of the season and then came on strong once Deacon got injured
Really good leader. Personally i think he should be on the plane as back up to Easter.
He was second choice to Deacon for most of the season and then came on strong once Deacon got injured
Really good leader. Personally i think he should be on the plane as back up to Easter.
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How about
John Smit + Matt Smith
for
Rene Ranger?
John Smit + Matt Smith
for
Rene Ranger?
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sorry mate no interest in smith
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Let me have a think about the Brown deal mate, I dont think Kankowski will make the Springbok team for the WC, and I'm a bit short in that area - with him I can have a combination of Taylor, Rees and Kankowski, with Watson on the bench. And in the 15 shirt, I can always push Cips back.
thought Kitchener would end up at Tigers, be interesting to see how much game time he gets - will start 4-5th choice, been a better move for him initially to go to Gloucester or somewhere where he is guaranteed a start. Excellent prospect!
thought Kitchener would end up at Tigers, be interesting to see how much game time he gets - will start 4-5th choice, been a better move for him initially to go to Gloucester or somewhere where he is guaranteed a start. Excellent prospect!
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How about
John Smit + Matt Smith for Adam Jones
Smit covers all the front row and Smith covers the back 3 and 13 along with being EQ.
Jones is always injured which affects his ratings massively.
John Smit + Matt Smith for Adam Jones
Smit covers all the front row and Smith covers the back 3 and 13 along with being EQ.
Jones is always injured which affects his ratings massively.
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I'd rather have Ojo mate
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No thanks mate.
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Would you do a straight swap for Corbisiero?
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Who would you be willing to lose for him?
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How about
Smit + Powell for Chuter and John Davies
Smit + Powell for Chuter and John Davies
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Johnson isn't going anywhere mate.
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These are a few players of mine who are for sale, that may interest you:
HK Damien Varley (Ireland)
FL Jacques Burger (Namibia)
SH Mike Blair (Scotland)
FH Nicky Little (Fiji)
CE Will Chambers (Australia)
WG Drew Mitchell (Australia)
HK Damien Varley (Ireland)
FL Jacques Burger (Namibia)
SH Mike Blair (Scotland)
FH Nicky Little (Fiji)
CE Will Chambers (Australia)
WG Drew Mitchell (Australia)
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Fair enough, make me an offer for him and we'll see what happens.
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Back 3 I want to improve mate
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No deal, not interested in Scaysbrook.
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I am, but I need a quality seven who is really rated on here.
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Stankovich + Benjamin
Mullen + Brown
Enq
Mullen + Brown
Enq
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I know he was good last season, but if I'm to lose Mitchell I need quality coming my way.
I'm happy with getting Brown but want someone else as well who I rate. I'm interested in Cueto, Trinder and Kitchener.
I'm happy with getting Brown but want someone else as well who I rate. I'm interested in Cueto, Trinder and Kitchener.
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Trinder looking good. Getting george for him is the long game. Front row take time. I have an absurd amount of good hookers but it is a key position.
Once trinder has bulked and can carry in to contact without losing the ball he will be deadly. Quickest players at Gloucester are 1 may 2 sharples and 3 trinder.
Trinder almost equal with sharples pace wise which makes
Him crazy dangerous on outside break.
Like
13s to have the turn of pace. That is why tindall kills opportunities with his lack of pace. Trinder a Bolter for wc
Once trinder has bulked and can carry in to contact without losing the ball he will be deadly. Quickest players at Gloucester are 1 may 2 sharples and 3 trinder.
Trinder almost equal with sharples pace wise which makes
Him crazy dangerous on outside break.
Like
13s to have the turn of pace. That is why tindall kills opportunities with his lack of pace. Trinder a Bolter for wc
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Could maybe change Benjamin to Ojo....
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I thought you liked your scummaging props..."best scummaging LH in the AP" according to Ben Kay! lol
No probs fella
No probs fella
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what sort of thing would you be wanting for him? I do like him, but not so sure what other people think of him on here
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Not sure sorry, think on current form it want to keep him!
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I do like Smith, but I dont think people on here particularly rate him and given I have got a few people who can play 13 its not really worth losing a prop who can play both sides of the scrum for him. So will give that one a miss mate
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No way mate. It improves my depth yes, but the gulf in class between my players and your players in that deal is unreal.
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Yeah 5 full internationals for 4 in return who are some of my best players. Tom Johnson isn't going anywhere at all neither is TPN. Barnes and Slipper could go but the offer would have to be good mate.
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My luck just gets better and better doesn't it! Probably my best player retiring, great!
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He soon will be. Right hit me with an offer and lets get re building my squad. I will try to be as realistic as possible with my valuations of players. Tom Johnson is not for sale at all though.
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Haskell is one of my players who I don't want to lose. I could replace him with Burger if you're interested in him at all?
I'm not very keen on Alessandro Zanni, Rodney So'oialo, Ollie Smith or Seilala Mapusua to be honest mate.
Could Twelvetrees and Trinder be included at all mate?
I'm not very keen on Alessandro Zanni, Rodney So'oialo, Ollie Smith or Seilala Mapusua to be honest mate.
Could Twelvetrees and Trinder be included at all mate?
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Not interested in Smith or Matavesi mate. Would you replace Smith with Twelvetrees and Matavesi with a winger of yours, would add something in at my end too.
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Sorry mate no interest in Smith. Would maybe do Kvesic for 36?
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Tough one really. Tom Palmer has been in the World Class bracket of late and is English.
It would need Tom Wood + Corbs or another decent english player which i know you would not want to do.
He starts for me even if there was no EQ player rule which is fairly rare in this game.
It would need Tom Wood + Corbs or another decent english player which i know you would not want to do.
He starts for me even if there was no EQ player rule which is fairly rare in this game.
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Would need to be a biggy for Borthwick
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LDCPete wrote:Dean Schofield, Ollie Smith, Josh Matavesi and £8 million for Steve Borthwick.
Nope as i'm at 55 players at the moment and i don't think Schofield , Smith are rated and Matavista hasn't kicked on the way i thought he would have.
How about
Borthwick + Delve + Smit for JVN + Chuter?
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Sorry mate Bekker isnt for sale and especially to you! Would be suicidal to give you the stormers and next Bok lock combo
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Jeez you are in the market for a english 2nd row in a big way.
Borthwick is the marmites marmite.
Borthwick is the marmites marmite.
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Make an offer but It will probs take a lot to let him go!
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