Saracens Rugby Football Club

by **Ozzy3213** Sat May 14, 2011 2:26 am

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SARACENS RUGBY FOOTBALL CLUB

Full name: Saracens Football Club
Union: Rugby Football Union
Nickname: Sarries
Founded: 1876
Location: St. Albans, England
Ground: Vicarage Road, Watford (Capacity: 19,920)
Chairman: Nigel Wray
Captain: John Smit
Competitions: Aviva Premiership, Heineken Cup, Anglo Welsh Cup.
2011–12: Aviva Premiership Runners Up, Heineken Cup Runners Up
2010–11: Aviva Premiership Runners Up, Heineken Cup Semi Finals
2009-10: Guinness Premiership Champions, Heineken Cup Quarter Finals
2008-09 Guinness Premiership Runners Up

COACHING STAFF

Head coach: Ozzy3213

Forwards coach: Jono Gibbes
Scrum coach: Naka Drotske
Defence coach: John Mitchell
Attack coach: Wayne Smith

Academy Manager: Rassie Erasmus
Assistant Manager: Thinus Delport

Senior Squad (40/40)

Nat	Pos	Name	dob	Height	Weight	Caps	Between	Points	Tries	Cons	Pens	DG
	HK	John Smit	03/04/1978	6ft 2ins	19st	111	2000-2011	40	8	-	-	-
	HK	Bismarck du Plessis	22/05/1984	6ft 2ins	17st 12lbs	45	2007-	30	6	-	-	-
	HK	George Chuter	09/07/1976	5ft 11ins	15st 6lbs	24	2006-2010	5	1	-	-	-



	PR	Alex Corbisiero	30/08/1988	6ft 1in	18st 12lbs	16	2011-	-	-	-	-	-
	PR	Matt Mullan	23/02/1987	6ft	17st 9lbs	1	2010-	-	-	-	-	-
	PR	Max Lahiff	09/12/1989	6ft 1in	18st 3lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-

	PR	Adam Jones	08/03/1981	6ft	20st	85	2003-	10	2	-	-	-
	PR	Jannie du Plessis	16/11/1982	6ft 2ins	19st 1lb	33	2007-	5	1	-	-	-
	PR	Dave Wilson	09/04/1985	6ft 2ins	19st 3lbs	19	2009-	-	-	-	-	-
	PR	Phil Swainston	12/12/1989	6ft	17st 5lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-



	LK	Lionel Nallet	14/09/1976	6ft 5ins	18st 2lbs	74	2000-2012	45	9	-	-	-
	LK	Steve Borthwick	12/10/1979	6ft 6ins	17st 11lbs	57	2001-2010	10	2	-	-	-
	LK	Rob Simmons	19/04/1989	6ft 7ins	18st 2lbs	20	2010-	-	-	-	-	-
	LK	George Skivington	03/12/1982	6ft 6ins	18st 2lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-
	LK	Rynhardt Elstadt	20/12/1989	6ft 6ins	18st 2lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-



	FL	George Smith	14/07/1980	5ft 11ins	16st 3 lbs	110	2000-2009	45	9	-	-	-
	FL	Alessandro Zanni	31/01/1984	6ft 3ins	16st 8lbs	65	2005-	10	2	-	-	-
	FL	Thierry Dusautoir	18/11/1981	6ft 2ins	15st 10lbs	54	2006-	30	6	-	-	-
	FL	Ross Rennie	29/03/1986	6ft 1in	16st	19	2008-	-	-	-	-	-
	FL	Ofisa Treviranus	31/03/1984	6ft 2in	17st	19	2009-	5	1	-	-	-
	FL	Tom Johnson	16/07/1982	6ft 2ins	16st 3lbs	3	2012-	-	-	-	-	-

	N8	Joe van Niekerk	14/05/1980	6ft 4ins	17st	52	2001-2010	50	10	-	-	-
	N8	Duane Vermeulen	03/07/1986	6ft 4ins	18st 4lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-





	SH	Morgan Parra	15/11/1988	5ft 11ins	12st 2lbs	42	2008-	274	2	36	63	1
	SH	Francois Hougaard	06/04/1988	5ft 10ins	14st 2lbs	18	2009-	20	4	-	-	-
	SH	Paul Hodgson	25/04/1982	5ft 8ins	12st 6lbs	9	2008-	-	-	-	-	-
	SH	Dewaldt Duvenage	22/05/1988	5ft 8ins	12st 4lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-



	FH	Francois Trinh-Duc	11/11/1986	6ft	13st 5lbs	41	2008-	70	9	2	1	6
	FH	Ian Humphreys	24/04/1982	5ft 11ins	13st 1lb	0	-	-	-	-	-	-



	CE	Ma'a Nonu	21/05/1982	6ft	16st 10lbs	66	2003-	110	22	-	-	-
	CE	Jonathan Davies	05/04/1988	6ft 1in	16st 3lbs	29	2009-	40	8	-	-	-
	CE	Tom Casson	06/04/1990	6ft	14st 2lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-
	CE	Henry Trinder	14/04/1989	6ft	13st 5lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-
	CE	Nevin Spence	26/04/1990	6ft	14st 13lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-



	WG	Bryan Habana	12/06/1983	5ft 11ins	14st 11lbs	77	2004-	200	40	-	-	-
	WG	Mark Cueto	26/12/1979	6ft	15st	56	2001-2011	100	20	-	-	-
	WG	Andrew Trimble	20/10/1984	6ft 2ins	15st 6lbs	48	2005-	55	11	-	-	-
	WG	Digby Ioane	14/07/1985	5ft 10ins	14st 9lbs	25	2007-	45	9	-	-	-
	WG	Luke Fitzgerald	13/09/1987	6ft 1in	14st 7lbs	24	2006-	10	2	-	-	-



	FB	Tom Homer	01/04/1990	5ft 10ins	14st 5lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-

Senior Academy (19/20)

Nat	Pos	Name	dob	Height	Weight	Caps	Between	Points	Tries	Cons	Pens	DG
	HK	Christopher Tolofua	31/12/1993	6ft	18st 8lbs	1	2012-	-	-	-	-	-
	HK	Tom Cowan-Dickie	26/05/1991	6ft	16st 5lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	PR	Steven Kitshoff	10/02/1992	6ft	18st 12lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	PR	Frans Malherbe	14/03/1991	6ft 2ins	18st 12lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	LK	Paul Willemse	13/11/1992	6ft 7ins	20st	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	LK	Addison Lockley	25/10/1991	6ft 6ins	16st 7lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	LK	Ruan Botha	10/01/1992	6ft 8ins	17st 11lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	FL	Siya Kolisi	16/06/1991	6ft 2ins	15st 13lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	FL	Luke Wallace	02/10/1990	6ft 1in	14st 13lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	N8	Alex Gray	01/05/1991	6ft 5ins	16st 7lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-



	SH	Eric Escande	18/11/1992	5ft 9ins	12st 4lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	SH	James Lightfoot-Brown	21/06/1993	5ft 8ins	11st 13lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	FH	Owen Farrell	24/09/1991	6ft 2ins	15st 1lb	8	2012-	81	-	6	23	-
	FH	Patric Lambie	17/10/1990	5ft 10ins	14st 6lbs	13	2011-	6	-	3	-	-
	CE	Pat Howard	21/03/1991	6ft 2ins	15st 13lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	WG	Milford Keresoma	01/02/1992	5ft 10ins	14st 13lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	WG	Oliver Cicognini	TBC	TBC	TBC	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	FB	Jaco Taute	21/03/1991	6ft 3ins	15st 11lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	FB	Jack Nowell	11/04/1993	5ft 11ins	14st	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Protected Academy

Scott Spurling
Max Crumpton
Nick Auterac
Tom Jubb
Maro Itoje
Matt Hankin
Sam James
James Thacker

Thomas Chapman
Nathan Earle
Charlie Kingsman
Nick Tompkins
Josh Sharp

Playing record under current head coach

Premiership
Home: P 47 W 42 D 3 L 2
Away: P 43 W 18 D 10 L 15
Neutral: P 4 W 1 D 0 L 3
Total: P 94 W 61 D 13 L 20 PF 2142 PA 1803 TF 236 TA 154

Heineken Cup
Home: P 12 W 12 D 0 L 0
Away: P 11 W 8 D 1 L 2
Neutral: P 1 W 0 D 0 L 1
Total: P 24 W 20 D 1 L 3

Anglo Welsh Cup
Home: P 6 W 4 D 0 L 2
Away: P 7 W 2 D 0 L 5
Total: P 13 W 6 D 0 L 7

Total Playing Record
Home: P 65 W 58 D 3 L 4
Away: P 61 W 28 D 11 L 22
Neutral: P 5 W 1 D 0 L 4

Total: P 131 W 87 D 14 L 30

Budget: £12 million

(all stats correct as of 14/08/2012)

by Driver Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:15 am

No problem mate

Would you do Rodney for £5m?

by dammit_chris Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:47 pm

Would you consider loan deal of Attwood and Abbott for Mullan and Kitchener? Think Attwood's the standout, so kind of balances itself out?

by Sgt_Pooly Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:07 am

Corbs, Mullen, Lahiff.....are you collecting all of Englands quality LH's!

Any available?

by Sgt_Pooly Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:15 am

I think Lahiff looks better than Mullen already mate. What kind of deal are you thinking?

by LukeLovesLuka Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:18 am

Would you do lahiff for crane? Give you a decent EQ back row bench option.

by LukeLovesLuka Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:28 am

Maybe include Youngs for Lawson to improve EQ hook options?

by Sgt_Pooly Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:31 am

Brussow for Mullen?!?! Little odd that one Pete, one of the worlds best opensides for a solid AP LH?

by Sgt_Pooly Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:37 am

Don't do OTT deals mate, just fair ones. No probs if you don't want to sell

by 'Arry Spurs Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:59 pm

What for Chuter?

by 'Arry Spurs Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:58 pm

Couldn't do that mate, sorry.

by Steven_Sharks Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:18 am

I don't think i can do a deal on him. Whilst the offer is exceptional I want to keep him here as I am majorly lack top EQ talent so am trying to solve that with the 'future stars'.

If I do ever consider letting him go you'll be made aware, as I suspect you wouldn't talk to me ever again if I didn't Wink

by Sgt_Pooly Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:52 am

Anything for:

A Jones, Trinder, Nonu, Elstadt, Goode?

by dammit_chris Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:54 am

I'm getting closer with the temptation of loaning you Attwood for Mullan...

What would it take to get Waller on permanent?

by dammit_chris Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:02 am

Would you do Attwood for Mullan on loan til 2 weeks before 6nations (gives time for both to bed back in at club before they might be needed) and allow me to loan Kitchener until end of 2011? Would be very short on locks if I got an injury you see!

by dammit_chris Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:04 am

Ok sounds good mate.

by prop_lyd Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:17 pm

Quite interested in Lawson/Botha...need a good hooker

by Driver Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:31 pm

Isaia Toeava and Chris Bell interest me mate what would you like for them?

by prop_lyd Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:44 am

Think i need perm sorry!!!!

by Driver Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:27 am

I'll deal on that need the depth in my centres a bit more than 8.

by Driver Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:33 am

It's a really good deal mate , gives me a bit more in the back line and i'm happy with my back row options at the moment as i'v got an 8 in mind come the next transfer window.

by Sgt_Pooly Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:16 am

Interested in Maps a bit mate, more so Trinder thumbsup

by Sgt_Pooly Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:11 pm

He's coming on really nicely, seems have tightened up his defence this season. Gives you a nice midfield Nonu/Trinder

by Sgt_Pooly Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:36 pm

He played well as did Sharples. You've just always lacked a good running 13 to suit Nonu really. Nonu/Trinder is tasty mate.

by dammit_chris Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:03 am

HK Bismarck du Plessis (South Africa)

PR (LH/TH) Alex Corbisiero (England)
PR (TH) Adam Jones (Wales)

Two of these three...

LK Lionel Nallet (France)
LK Victor Matfield (South Africa)
LK Rynhardt Elstadt (South Africa)

FL Tom Wood (England)
FL Thierry Dusautoir (France)

N8 Luke Narroway (would be NVK if wasnt for England rule)

SH Morgan Parra (France)

FH Francois Trinh-Duc (France)

CE Jonathon Davies (Wales)
CE Ma'a Nonu (New Zealand)

WG Mark Cueto (England)
WG Digby Ioane (Australia)

FB Alex Goode (England)

by LukeLovesLuka Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:20 am

1. Tendai Mtwarira
2. Bismarck du Plessis
3. Adam Jones
4. Lionel Nallet
5. Victor Matfield
6. Tom Wood
7. Thierry Dusautoir
8. Luke Narraway

09. Morgan Parra
10. Francois Trinh-Duc
11. Mark Cueto
12. Ma'a Nonu
13. Henry Trinder
14. Digby Ioane
15. Tom Homer

Trinder/Homer in on form. Not sure if you wanted form or not....

by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:37 am

1. Alex Corbisiero
2. Bismarck du Plessis
3. Adam Jones
4. Lionel Nallet
5. Victor Matfield
6. Tom Wood
7. Thierry Dusautoir
8. JVN

09. Morgan Parra
10. Francois Trinh-Duc
11. Mark Cueto
12. Ma'a Nonu
13. Henry Trinder
14. Digby Ioane
15. Alex Goode (miles ahead of Homer)

I'd start Corbs ahead of Beast so I can play JVN ahead of Narraway. Corbs/Beast much closer than JVN/Narraway I think.

If you start Narraway at 8 I think your flanks need a big ball carrier in there somewhere.

by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:51 am

Not really no, not at the standard of your 1-14 anyway. Could see the benifit if you played Hodgson at 9 to give you a goal kicker but can't see any positiives he brings apart from his kicking.

Nothing wrong with that but to see somebody of Homer's ability alongside players like Iaone and Nonu makes me feel a little sick in my mouth.

by dammit_chris Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:52 am

Homer's had a great start to this season - would say he's playing better rugby than Goode and is actually looking more threatenting than him in attack. Do think Goode's a better player overall, but Homer's on much better form.

by Driver Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:14 am

I'd go

1.Alex Corbisero
2.Bismark Du Plessie
3.Adam Jones
4.Lionel Nallet
5.Victor Matfield
6.Tom Wood
7.Thiery Dusitoir
8.Joe Van Nikirk

9.Morgan Parra
10.Owen Farrell
11.Digby Ioane
12.Ma'a Nonu
13.Henry Trinder
14.Rene Ranger
15.Alex Goode

by dammit_chris Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:17 am

Pete - why not do what Sarries are doing with Farrell - name him as 13, then play him as second receiver - his defence is brilliant and would give you that option to move Nonu about to threaten defensive line a lot. He's better than Trinder and has the best kicking game in the league.

by Driver Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:47 pm

lol yeah i did , Lee Byrne had a bit of a stormer for ASM Wink

With King having a big defender alongside would it be better to go D'Arcy or Masi?

by Driver Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:59 pm

Picked a cracking line for the first try - was a really good game in general.

I'm almost certain centre is where i'm going with my next bid with Benson Stanley looking tempting. Best get D'Arcy and King some game time togeather!

by stnick88 Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:04 pm

Cueto, Goode, Homer, Lahiff.....anything?

by Sgt_Pooly Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:54 am

Think Matfield may have retired mate:

http://m.news24.com/sport24/Rugby/Bulls-pick-Spies-to-lead-way-20111116

by dammit_chris Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:05 am

He has Pooly - apparently he announced it on 26th October - can;t believe any of the big websites havent had any stories on this!

by Sgt_Pooly Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:35 am

I think he retired from all competitive rugby straight after World Cup Pete, definatley club rugby anyway. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, just seen it in another article.

At least you got a couple of games out of him! Lol

by Sgt_Pooly Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:57 am

Your call fella, just thought I'd let you know

by Sgt_Pooly Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:25 am

Forgot about Ba's game, reckon you can squeeze a few more cheeky games out of him. Be rude not to!

by stnick88 Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:13 pm

what for lahiff, borthwick, hodgson, cueto, goode?

by Sgt_Pooly Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:58 pm

Id be interested in Goode & Lahiff too Smile

by stnick88 Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:11 pm

Borthwick and Lahiff for Kennedy and ???
not sure what to suggest. any ideas?

by Sgt_Pooly Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:57 am

Anything for Goode or Lahiff Pete?

by Steven_Sharks Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:02 am

Canale for Cueto?

by Sgt_Pooly Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:02 am

Pete,

2nd half pack means pack to start the 2nd half. I wouldn't put players on the bench if I didn't trust them?!?!

I thought the ability to bring two world class players on fresh would give me a pack edge in the second.

by Sgt_Pooly Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:10 pm

How about Waller then Pete? Can't believe how many LH's you have!

by Sgt_Pooly Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:44 pm

Thats pretty fair I think, I expect big things from Gray though so look after him!

Deal mate

by Sgt_Pooly Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:18 am

On confirms Pete thumbsup

by 'Arry Spurs Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:03 pm

Hi mate, I'm still very interested in Mark Cueto. What you after for him?

by dammit_chris Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:13 pm

How do you rate Beauxis' kicking game? I've seen him play a fair few times this season and he has got one heck of a monster boot on him - am wanting to play him but I dont know how others rate him?

by dammit_chris Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:27 am

Anything for Scott Spurling?

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