Saracens Rugby Football Club

by **Ozzy3213** Fri May 13, 2011 4:26 pm

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SARACENS RUGBY FOOTBALL CLUB

Full name: Saracens Football Club
Union: Rugby Football Union
Nickname: Sarries
Founded: 1876
Location: St. Albans, England
Ground: Vicarage Road, Watford (Capacity: 19,920)
Chairman: Nigel Wray
Captain: John Smit
Competitions: Aviva Premiership, Heineken Cup, Anglo Welsh Cup.
2011–12: Aviva Premiership Runners Up, Heineken Cup Runners Up
2010–11: Aviva Premiership Runners Up, Heineken Cup Semi Finals
2009-10: Guinness Premiership Champions, Heineken Cup Quarter Finals
2008-09 Guinness Premiership Runners Up

COACHING STAFF

Head coach: Ozzy3213

Forwards coach: Jono Gibbes
Scrum coach: Naka Drotske
Defence coach: John Mitchell
Attack coach: Wayne Smith

Academy Manager: Rassie Erasmus
Assistant Manager: Thinus Delport

Senior Squad (40/40)

Nat	Pos	Name	dob	Height	Weight	Caps	Between	Points	Tries	Cons	Pens	DG
	HK	John Smit	03/04/1978	6ft 2ins	19st	111	2000-2011	40	8	-	-	-
	HK	Bismarck du Plessis	22/05/1984	6ft 2ins	17st 12lbs	45	2007-	30	6	-	-	-
	HK	George Chuter	09/07/1976	5ft 11ins	15st 6lbs	24	2006-2010	5	1	-	-	-



	PR	Alex Corbisiero	30/08/1988	6ft 1in	18st 12lbs	16	2011-	-	-	-	-	-
	PR	Matt Mullan	23/02/1987	6ft	17st 9lbs	1	2010-	-	-	-	-	-
	PR	Max Lahiff	09/12/1989	6ft 1in	18st 3lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-

	PR	Adam Jones	08/03/1981	6ft	20st	85	2003-	10	2	-	-	-
	PR	Jannie du Plessis	16/11/1982	6ft 2ins	19st 1lb	33	2007-	5	1	-	-	-
	PR	Dave Wilson	09/04/1985	6ft 2ins	19st 3lbs	19	2009-	-	-	-	-	-
	PR	Phil Swainston	12/12/1989	6ft	17st 5lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-



	LK	Lionel Nallet	14/09/1976	6ft 5ins	18st 2lbs	74	2000-2012	45	9	-	-	-
	LK	Steve Borthwick	12/10/1979	6ft 6ins	17st 11lbs	57	2001-2010	10	2	-	-	-
	LK	Rob Simmons	19/04/1989	6ft 7ins	18st 2lbs	20	2010-	-	-	-	-	-
	LK	George Skivington	03/12/1982	6ft 6ins	18st 2lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-
	LK	Rynhardt Elstadt	20/12/1989	6ft 6ins	18st 2lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-



	FL	George Smith	14/07/1980	5ft 11ins	16st 3 lbs	110	2000-2009	45	9	-	-	-
	FL	Alessandro Zanni	31/01/1984	6ft 3ins	16st 8lbs	65	2005-	10	2	-	-	-
	FL	Thierry Dusautoir	18/11/1981	6ft 2ins	15st 10lbs	54	2006-	30	6	-	-	-
	FL	Ross Rennie	29/03/1986	6ft 1in	16st	19	2008-	-	-	-	-	-
	FL	Ofisa Treviranus	31/03/1984	6ft 2in	17st	19	2009-	5	1	-	-	-
	FL	Tom Johnson	16/07/1982	6ft 2ins	16st 3lbs	3	2012-	-	-	-	-	-

	N8	Joe van Niekerk	14/05/1980	6ft 4ins	17st	52	2001-2010	50	10	-	-	-
	N8	Duane Vermeulen	03/07/1986	6ft 4ins	18st 4lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-





	SH	Morgan Parra	15/11/1988	5ft 11ins	12st 2lbs	42	2008-	274	2	36	63	1
	SH	Francois Hougaard	06/04/1988	5ft 10ins	14st 2lbs	18	2009-	20	4	-	-	-
	SH	Paul Hodgson	25/04/1982	5ft 8ins	12st 6lbs	9	2008-	-	-	-	-	-
	SH	Dewaldt Duvenage	22/05/1988	5ft 8ins	12st 4lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-



	FH	Francois Trinh-Duc	11/11/1986	6ft	13st 5lbs	41	2008-	70	9	2	1	6
	FH	Ian Humphreys	24/04/1982	5ft 11ins	13st 1lb	0	-	-	-	-	-	-



	CE	Ma'a Nonu	21/05/1982	6ft	16st 10lbs	66	2003-	110	22	-	-	-
	CE	Jonathan Davies	05/04/1988	6ft 1in	16st 3lbs	29	2009-	40	8	-	-	-
	CE	Tom Casson	06/04/1990	6ft	14st 2lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-
	CE	Henry Trinder	14/04/1989	6ft	13st 5lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-
	CE	Nevin Spence	26/04/1990	6ft	14st 13lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-



	WG	Bryan Habana	12/06/1983	5ft 11ins	14st 11lbs	77	2004-	200	40	-	-	-
	WG	Mark Cueto	26/12/1979	6ft	15st	56	2001-2011	100	20	-	-	-
	WG	Andrew Trimble	20/10/1984	6ft 2ins	15st 6lbs	48	2005-	55	11	-	-	-
	WG	Digby Ioane	14/07/1985	5ft 10ins	14st 9lbs	25	2007-	45	9	-	-	-
	WG	Luke Fitzgerald	13/09/1987	6ft 1in	14st 7lbs	24	2006-	10	2	-	-	-



	FB	Tom Homer	01/04/1990	5ft 10ins	14st 5lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-

Senior Academy (19/20)

Nat	Pos	Name	dob	Height	Weight	Caps	Between	Points	Tries	Cons	Pens	DG
	HK	Christopher Tolofua	31/12/1993	6ft	18st 8lbs	1	2012-	-	-	-	-	-
	HK	Tom Cowan-Dickie	26/05/1991	6ft	16st 5lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	PR	Steven Kitshoff	10/02/1992	6ft	18st 12lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	PR	Frans Malherbe	14/03/1991	6ft 2ins	18st 12lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	LK	Paul Willemse	13/11/1992	6ft 7ins	20st	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	LK	Addison Lockley	25/10/1991	6ft 6ins	16st 7lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	LK	Ruan Botha	10/01/1992	6ft 8ins	17st 11lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	FL	Siya Kolisi	16/06/1991	6ft 2ins	15st 13lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	FL	Luke Wallace	02/10/1990	6ft 1in	14st 13lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	N8	Alex Gray	01/05/1991	6ft 5ins	16st 7lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-



	SH	Eric Escande	18/11/1992	5ft 9ins	12st 4lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	SH	James Lightfoot-Brown	21/06/1993	5ft 8ins	11st 13lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	FH	Owen Farrell	24/09/1991	6ft 2ins	15st 1lb	8	2012-	81	-	6	23	-
	FH	Patric Lambie	17/10/1990	5ft 10ins	14st 6lbs	13	2011-	6	-	3	-	-
	CE	Pat Howard	21/03/1991	6ft 2ins	15st 13lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	WG	Milford Keresoma	01/02/1992	5ft 10ins	14st 13lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	WG	Oliver Cicognini	TBC	TBC	TBC	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	FB	Jaco Taute	21/03/1991	6ft 3ins	15st 11lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	FB	Jack Nowell	11/04/1993	5ft 11ins	14st	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Protected Academy

Scott Spurling
Max Crumpton
Nick Auterac
Tom Jubb
Maro Itoje
Matt Hankin
Sam James
James Thacker

Thomas Chapman
Nathan Earle
Charlie Kingsman
Nick Tompkins
Josh Sharp

Playing record under current head coach

Premiership
Home: P 47 W 42 D 3 L 2
Away: P 43 W 18 D 10 L 15
Neutral: P 4 W 1 D 0 L 3
Total: P 94 W 61 D 13 L 20 PF 2142 PA 1803 TF 236 TA 154

Heineken Cup
Home: P 12 W 12 D 0 L 0
Away: P 11 W 8 D 1 L 2
Neutral: P 1 W 0 D 0 L 1
Total: P 24 W 20 D 1 L 3

Anglo Welsh Cup
Home: P 6 W 4 D 0 L 2
Away: P 7 W 2 D 0 L 5
Total: P 13 W 6 D 0 L 7

Total Playing Record
Home: P 65 W 58 D 3 L 4
Away: P 61 W 28 D 11 L 22
Neutral: P 5 W 1 D 0 L 4

Total: P 131 W 87 D 14 L 30

Budget: £12 million

(all stats correct as of 14/08/2012)

by CJB Sat May 12, 2012 9:49 pm

Corbs, Mullan, Lahiff, Kitchener, Kruis, Johnson, Elstadt, Beast, Parra, FTD, Trinder, JD, Ioane, Ranger, Goode and Homer interest me

And btw can you take Sam Hill out of your squad

by Steven_Sharks Mon May 14, 2012 8:21 pm

No mate. Not selling him. Probably my proudest signing on here.

I reckon he will be on the Lions tour.

by Steven_Sharks Mon May 14, 2012 8:55 pm

hahaha. I got Joseph, Watson and Edgerley for 2 mil I think. Gibson, Lund and Regan King for 10 mil.

Sure I won't get the next London Irish hotshot so easily!

by stnick88 Mon May 14, 2012 9:06 pm

watson and edgerley never worked out but JJ has in a massive way cant believe i let you have him!! no more irish academy players are leaving! so glad i havent sold anthony watson as he is regarded as the best irish academy player ever so far

by Steven_Sharks Mon May 14, 2012 9:12 pm

I think I got JJ before he was officialy in the Irish academy. I signed him after I heard what he was doing for Millfield School. I thought Edgerley would make it as well. He is doing okay for Eng 7's though

by Guest Tue May 15, 2012 3:21 pm

3 mil casson

by CJB Tue May 15, 2012 3:44 pm

Any interest in a deal built around Nonu 4 Mermoz

by Steven_Sharks Tue May 15, 2012 3:51 pm

I can't decide if he is available or not at the moment. It changes hourly and am struggling trying to value him.

Will have to get back to you.

by CJB Tue May 15, 2012 4:06 pm

Straight swap?

by stnick88 Tue May 15, 2012 9:11 pm

define massive!!
what sort of players would you include

by stnick88 Tue May 15, 2012 9:21 pm

6 months ago i would of taken nonu but he seems to be off form and i have 3 quality 12's now.

shame u let wood go as would of included him. to be honest has to be dusatoir but doubt you would do that.

by stnick88 Tue May 15, 2012 9:27 pm

i know mate didnt think u would.

doubt i would let him go to be honest would need english starter back but with steffs form would be silly to let him go

by LukeLovesLuka Wed May 16, 2012 11:41 am

£7m for Scaysbrook

by Driver Wed May 16, 2012 4:25 pm

Is Luke Baldwin in the Academy bracket next season fella?

by 'Arry Spurs Wed May 16, 2012 4:26 pm

I'll pass mate. Need to keep my money for the foreigns.

by LukeLovesLuka Wed May 16, 2012 4:28 pm

Is Saunders academy age?

by CJB Wed May 16, 2012 9:22 pm

Thoughts on nonu - Mermoz

by CJB Thu May 17, 2012 8:49 am

Gonna pass from any deal or just that specific deal?

Ranger/Mapasua/Trinder can all play centre and will be around for 6N I presume

by Driver Thu May 17, 2012 8:55 am

I'll get back to you

by CJB Thu May 17, 2012 8:57 am

Yer that's fine makes sense.

I'd need a gain in either of those deals, who is still left in your squad cos I know you've sold Beast aswell

by CJB Thu May 17, 2012 9:14 am

I consider them two of my three players that I really do need huge players to sell. Cos Nonu is off for, I'd need a gain

What about if TNW could be included in deal?

by CJB Thu May 17, 2012 9:21 am

Ok then, will see if anything else pops into my head over next week or two

by LukeLovesLuka Thu May 17, 2012 9:43 am

Stick it on confirms

by Guest Thu May 17, 2012 10:05 am

Hi Pete

I would be looking for more than double that for Fasivalu. Probably about 10 mil. That said i may well keep him as i am almost down to 40 now and may cut a few players like Dave Lewis etc.

by dammit_chris Thu May 17, 2012 5:02 pm

not sure what I'd do for Whitehead mate as more tempted to lose Webber for a foreign hooker, as at least Whitehead will be availableall year round.

by dammit_chris Sun May 20, 2012 12:17 pm

Would do him for Scott Spurling?

by Steven_Sharks Sun May 20, 2012 4:43 pm

Would there be anything in a Lowe for Farrell as the basis for a deal?

by 'Arry Spurs Sun May 20, 2012 4:46 pm

Don't want to let Brown go mate.

I'm interested in Mullan, Kitchener and Jon Davies.

by LukeLovesLuka Sun May 20, 2012 4:58 pm

Ranger
For
Poit?

by 'Arry Spurs Sun May 20, 2012 4:59 pm

It's Mullan and Kitchener I'm mainly after mate.

Would you want EQ in return for them?

by LukeLovesLuka Sun May 20, 2012 5:15 pm

Tempting.

Quite like to get Zanni involved. Possible? Ranger + Zanni for Vermeulen + ?

by LukeLovesLuka Sun May 20, 2012 5:41 pm

Would you do Joubert not Vermeulen?

by LukeLovesLuka Sun May 20, 2012 6:42 pm

Deal with Vermeulen.

by Sgt_Pooly Sun May 20, 2012 6:48 pm

Mullen, Trinder, A Jones, JD, Digby, Parra?

Good luck for final fella, should be a belter.

by stnick88 Sun May 20, 2012 7:13 pm

JVN ??

by Sgt_Pooly Mon May 21, 2012 7:54 am

Brussow could possibly leave but hard to set up something, I don't really need a 7 back.

Could you get BdP in something with Bruss?

by Sgt_Pooly Mon May 21, 2012 8:08 am

Struggling to see anything then for Bruss, no probs

by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue May 22, 2012 11:55 am

Anything doing for Digby?

by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed May 23, 2012 9:34 am

Sorry mate not keen to lose Quedragao the lad has been immense for Montpeiller again this year

by CJB Wed May 23, 2012 11:28 am

Potentially could be losing him. Not really willing to for small though him, Woodburn and cook are my future EQ players IMO

by LukeLovesLuka Wed May 23, 2012 6:48 pm

Lambie available at all?

by LukeLovesLuka Wed May 23, 2012 8:23 pm

Borthwick?

Anything for Lambie?

by LukeLovesLuka Wed May 23, 2012 8:31 pm

figured as much.

I'm looking at a 5 in foreigns, so of we go for different players we'll be good to go.

by LukeLovesLuka Wed May 23, 2012 8:40 pm

I'm after Hargreaves. Think he'll be a hit at Sarries.

by dammit_chris Sat May 26, 2012 1:54 pm

Would you do Whitehead and Wray for Mullan?

by Sgt_Pooly Sat May 26, 2012 11:15 pm

Anything for Tolufua?

by Sgt_Pooly Sun May 27, 2012 10:48 am

Couldn't lose Brussow for Smith/Zanni mate

by Sgt_Pooly Sun May 27, 2012 10:59 am

That's ok Pete, hard to deal on potential unless potential is involved back I think sometimes.

by LukeLovesLuka Sun May 27, 2012 1:40 pm

Crane
for
Cueto?

by stnick88 Thu May 31, 2012 3:03 pm

keep forgetting to update my academy.

need to put moates, ramshaw and that other fella in there.

will keep hold of moates for a bit but he may be available later in the season.

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