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Klitschko vs Povetkin : Is a shock on the cards?

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Post by Union Cane Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:04 pm

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I'm surprised that there isn't more excitement around this, after all it is the biggest and some would say most competitive heavyweight title fight in years.

Ordinarily I would say Wlad walks it; carries Povetkin to the second half then dispatches him for KO number 52.

However, I have an inkling that this could be different.

Povetkin's management have paid a hell of a lot to put this fight on in Moscow. Wlad is the away fighter for once, and no doubt there will be several types of shenanigan going on to try to unsettle the champ beforehand.

There are alleged links between Povetkin's backers and the Russian Mafiya. Are judges Gimla, Feldman and Verbeke beyond their influence? There have been some crazy scorecards handed in recently, so who knows. "But surely it won't go to the cards" I hear you cry.

Well, Wlad is not an inside fighter, we all know this. Will referee Luis Pabon take a dimmer than usual view of any holding by the champion? Warnings perhaps? Docked points? Will they try all they can to rattle Wlad and throw him off his stride?

It is all conjecture of course, but they surely haven't put up $23,000,000 to see their boy get pancaked.

I could be totally wrong, but I feel Wlad will need a knockout to get a draw.
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Post by Strongback Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:22 am

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Age doesn't seem to affect Wlad's physical condition. I am more than suspicious.


I remember when the Eastern Europeans first came over to work here when European succession came about. When they hit the gym we thought they were genetically superior. After a while we found out they were juiced to the eyeballs. There is a rich history of steroid use in that part of the world trumped only by the American's.



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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:26 am

Strongback wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
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Age doesn't seem to affect Wlad's physical condition.  I am more than suspicious.


I remember when the Eastern Europeans first came over to work here when European succession came about.  When they hit the gym we thought they were genetically superior.  After a while we found out they were juiced to the eyeballs.  There is a rich history of steroid use in that part of the world trumped only by the American's.  


Could say the same about Mayweather and Marquez who come into the ring with perfect bodies.

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:31 am

I am full erect.

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Post by Strongback Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:52 am

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Strongback wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
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Age doesn't seem to affect Wlad's physical condition.  I am more than suspicious.


I remember when the Eastern Europeans first came over to work here when European succession came about.  When they hit the gym we thought they were genetically superior.  After a while we found out they were juiced to the eyeballs.  There is a rich history of steroid use in that part of the world trumped only by the American's.  


Could say the same about Mayweather and Marquez who come into the ring with perfect bodies.
The change Marquez made in his physique as a 40 year old is freakish particularly given he was never really a muscular guy.

Mayweather is more maintaining. He was in fantastic condition against Hatton. He is very vascular though which is sometimes an indicator of things. Floyd is only 5'7 so it isn't hard to notice a small amount of muscle packed on his small frame. Floyd's head does look to have gotten physically bigger over the years but that might just be an age thing.

Wlad carrying 17 plus stone of rock hard muscle with 5% bodyfat at 6'6 is a different proposition altogether.


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Post by catchweight Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:00 am

They are pro athletes. It shouldnt be that hard to keep a good physique. The smaller guys cant afford the muslces as much because they have to make weight.

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Post by Union Cane Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:09 am

Had a dream about this fight last night. Povetkin catches Wlad with an elbow in the first, causing a terrible cut above the eye. The (Mafiya sponsored?) ref declares that it was caused by a punch. Fight should be stopped but the (Mafiya sponsored?) doctor allows it to continue. After four rounds the cut is better but the doctor steps in and it is all over.

Winner, and the NEW......etc
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Post by bhb001 Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:33 am

Mr Bounce wrote:I think Povetkin is going to do one of two things: He will either have the fight of his life and lose a close but Unanimous Decision, or he will choke and be KO'd by the end of the 8th.

Whichever happens, it will be business as usual for Wlad. I don't think he will be beaten durng this reign - he'll just get bored.
Probably. And then 5 fighters will crawl out of the woodwork saying he retired because he was afraid to fight them. Wilder will be one of them

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Post by DavidBlunkettsuppercut Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:38 am

John Bloody Wayne wrote:I am full erect.

Full blown stot
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Post by compelling and rich Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:53 am

Union Cane wrote:Had a dream about this fight last night. Povetkin catches Wlad with an elbow in the first, causing a terrible cut above the eye. The (Mafiya sponsored?) ref declares that it was caused by a punch. Fight should be stopped but the (Mafiya sponsored?) doctor allows it to continue. After four rounds the cut is better but the doctor steps in and it is all over.

Winner, and the NEW......etc
Similar to khan and barrera then, I was there for that shambles

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Post by compelling and rich Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:54 am

Anyone know a rough start time for this fight, haven't got boxnation but will be watching it

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:56 am

I too was there for the barrera fight......

Starts at 2000 on Boxnation mate with it being in Russia. Fight is supposed be around 2100 our time.

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Post by kingraf Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:03 pm

This thread has descended a fair way from the not-so-lofty heights I had left it on
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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:14 pm

Ring walks at 2030 uk time according to saurlands social media outlet twitter/facebook.

Updated it about 10 mins ago.

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Post by EdWoodjr Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:50 pm

Mr Bounce wrote:I think Povetkin is going to do one of two things: He will either have the fight of his life and lose a close but Unanimous Decision, or he will choke and be KO'd by the end of the 8th.

Whichever happens, it will be business as usual for Wlad. I don't think he will be beaten durng this reign - he'll just get bored.
Not as bored as we are of watching him. Does a single nanosecond of 'action' of any moment of his entire title reign stick in anyone's mind ? A get-the-job-done, minimum-risk, minimum-fuss ( and minimum-entertainment value) robot who has me hitting the Samaritans speed-dial button before the end of the 2nd round. Does this guy get conditioned or merely programmed ?

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