HC, Pool 2, Round 1: Exeter Chiefs vs Cardiff Blues

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Mon 07 Oct 2013, 1:06 pm

I'm no George Carlin when it comes to setting up a new thread, but I thought I'd get one going for the other pool 2 match. It seems to me that both teams have had an indifferent start to the season, yet both seemed to hit their straps in their final game pre round 1, Cardiff Blues with a comfortable home win over Embra, and Exe putting Glaws to the sword at Kingsholm. Now admittedly Edinburgh have been pretty poor oppo this season, but equally Glaws were not on song yesterday, so perhaps we shouldn't read too much into either of these most recent encounters. Cardiff have now welcomed back their B&I Lions group, with strong displays from Jenkins, Warburton, Cuthbert and Halfpenny yesterday. For the Chiefs, DR Rob Baxter was delighted that at last his players delivered a full 80 minute performance, which has sadly been lacking season-to-date. All-in-all, this should lead to a pretty exciting encounter, both teams are an interesting blend of seasoned pros and promising youth (looking forward to the battle in the centres between Corey Allen and Sam Hill, two very exciting prospects) - can't wait to get back down to Sandy Park and soak up the atmosphere for this one

Chief

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Mon 07 Oct 2013, 1:54 pm

Surname First name Date of Birth Position Height Weight Played Points
Armand Don 23/09/88 Lock 1.91 m (6' 3") 110 kg (17 st 4 lb) 0 0
Arscott Luke 07/07/84 Fullback 1.85 m (6' 1") 104 kg (16 st 5 lb) 12 (1) 5
Bateman Greg 20/06/89 Hooker 1.82 m (6' 0") 111 kg (17 st 6 lb) 0 0
Brown Alex 13/10/89 Tight-Head Prop 1.81 m (5' 11") 117 kg (18 st 5 lb) 0 0
Chudley Will 17/03/88 Scrum half 1.78 m (5' 10") 88 kg (13 st 12 lb) 0 (4) 0
Cowan-Dickie Luke 20/06/93 Hooker 1.84 m (6' 0") 112 kg (17 st 8 lb) 0 (2) 0
Dollman Phil 15/05/85 Centre 1.81 m (5' 11") 92 kg (14 st 6 lb) 14 (3) 9
Ewers Dave 03/11/90 No 8 1.93 m (6' 4") 115 kg (18 st 1 lb) 4 (3) 0
Fairbrother Lloyd 13/11/91 Tight-Head Prop 1.73 m (5' 8") 120 kg (18 st 12 lb) 0 0
Graham Romana 29/05/86 Lock 2.01 m (6' 7") 118 kg (18 st 8 lb) 0 0
Hanks James 24/04/84 Lock 1.98 m (6' 6") 114 kg (17 st 13 lb) 9 (2) 0
Hayes Tom 31/05/80 Lock 1.94 m (6' 4") 109 kg (17 st 2 lb) 13 0
Hill Sam 14/07/93 Centre 1.82 m (6' 0") 99 kg (15 st 8 lb) 0 0
Horstmann Kai 21/09/81 No 8 1.90 m (6' 3") 106 kg (16 st 9 lb) 0 0
James Tom 17/04/87 Wing 1.83 m (6' 0") 98 kg (15 st 6 lb) 0 0
Jess Matt 04/04/84 Centre/Wing 1.81 m (5' 11") 90 kg (14 st 2 lb) 15 (1) 15
Johnson Tom 16/07/82 Flanker 1.88 m (6' 2") 104 kg (16 st 5 lb) 11 (3) 5
Lewis Dave 29/04/89 Scrum half 1.70 m (5' 7") 80 kg (12 st 8 lb) 0 0
Moon Ben 14/07/89 Loose-Head Prop 1.81 m (5' 11") 110 kg (17 st 4 lb) 8 (6) 5
Mumm Dean 05/03/84 Lock 1.94 m (6' 4") 109 kg (17 st 2 lb) 2 (3) 0
Naqelevuki Sireli 30/09/80 Centre 1.91 m (6' 3") 110 kg (17 st 4 lb) 6 (3) 5
Nowell Jack 11/04/93 Fullback/Wing 1.81 m (5' 11") 87 kg (13 st 9 lb) 2 (1) 5
Phillips James 27/09/87 Lock 1.94 m (6' 4") 120 kg (18 st 12 lb) 5 (4) 20
Rimmer Carl 29/04/86 Tight-Head Prop 1.83 m (6' 0") 113 kg (17 st 11 lb) 2 (4) 0
Scaysbrook James 01/01/82 Flanker 1.91 m (6' 3") 96 kg (15 st 1 lb) 12 5
Shoemark Jason 05/02/81 Centre 1.83 m (6' 0") 95 kg (14 st 13 lb) 8 0
Slade Henry 19/03/93 Outside half 1.88 m (6' 2") 87 kg (13 st 9 lb) 0 0
Steenson Gareth 05/04/84 Outside half 1.79 m (5' 10") 87 kg (13 st 9 lb) 9 (5) 122
Sturgess Brett 16/11/81 Loose-Head Prop 1.86 m (6' 1") 112 kg (17 st 8 lb) 8 (1) 5
Sweeney Ceri 21/01/80 Outside half 1.81 m (5' 11") 86 kg (13 st 7 lb) 0 0
Thomas Haydn 17/09/82 Scrum half 1.73 m (5' 8") 80 kg (12 st 8 lb) 9 (2) 15
Tui Hoani 29/05/84 Tight-Head Prop 1.81 m (5' 11") 120 kg (18 st 12 lb) 9 (4) 5
Vainikolo Fetu'u 30/01/85 Centre/Wing 1.79 m (5' 10") 101 kg (15 st 12 lb) 0 0
Welch Damian 28/07/82 Lock 1.98 m (6' 6") 113 kg (17 st 11 lb) 1 (2) 0
White Ben 23/11/83 Flanker 1.93 m (6' 4") 106 kg (16 st 9 lb) 5 (4) 5
Whitehead Chris 09/05/86 Hooker 1.78 m (5' 10") 96 kg (15 st 1 lb) 3 (5) 0
Whitten Ian 05/06/87 Centre/Wing 1.87 m (6' 2") 102 kg (16 st 0 lb) 4 (2) 5
Yeandle Jack 22/12/89 Hooker 1.85 m (6' 1") 111 kg (17 st 6 lb) 0 (2) 0

Chief

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Mon 07 Oct 2013, 1:54 pm

Blouses:

Surname First name Date of Birth Position Height Weight Played Points
Allen Cory 11/02/93 Centre 1.90 m (6' 3") 100 kg (15 st 10 lb) 0 0
Andrews Scott 01/08/89 Tight-Head Prop 1.88 m (6' 2") 115 kg (18 st 1 lb) 4 (13) 5
Bourrust Benoit 16/06/85 Tight-Head Prop 1.84 m (6' 0") 122 kg (19 st 2 lb) 4 (1) 0
Breeze Marc 11/02/87 Hooker 1.81 m (5' 11") 109 kg (17 st 2 lb) 4 (1) 0
Cook Macauley 31/12/91 Flanker 1.93 m (6' 4") 112 kg (17 st 8 lb) 1 (1) 0
Copeland Robin 23/10/87 Back row 1.95 m (6' 5") 110 kg (17 st 4 lb) 2 (3) 0
Cuthbert Alex 05/04/90 Wing 1.98 m (6' 6") 104 kg (16 st 5 lb) 12 45
Czekaj Chris 14/12/85 Fullback/Wing 1.90 m (6' 3") 101 kg (15 st 12 lb) 25 15
Dacey Kristian 25/07/89 Hooker 1.87 m (6' 2") 108 kg (17 st 0 lb) 0 (3) 0
Davies Bradley 09/01/87 Lock 1.98 m (6' 6") 119 kg (18 st 10 lb) 21 (7) 15
Davies Gareth 02/03/84 Outside half 1.75 m (5' 9") 86 kg (13 st 7 lb) 0 (2) 0
Davies Tom 10/03/93 Loose-Head Prop 1.85 m (6' 1") 115 kg (18 st 1 lb) 0 0
Down James 29/08/87 Lock 2.01 m (6' 7") 109 kg (17 st 2 lb) 6 (2) 0
Evans Gavin 18/07/84 Centre 1.90 m (6' 3") 100 kg (15 st 10 lb) 6 (3) 0
Filise Tau 26/05/77 Loose-Head Prop 1.88 m (6' 2") 124 kg (19 st 7 lb) 34 (10) 20
Fish Dan 19/12/90 Fullback/Wing 1.85 m (6' 1") 86 kg (13 st 7 lb) 0 0
Halfpenny Leigh 22/12/88 Fullback 1.78 m (5' 10") 81 kg (12 st 10 lb) 28 (1) 191
Hamilton Luke 07/01/92 Back row 1.90 m (6' 3") 104 kg (16 st 5 lb) 0 (3) 0
Hewitt Dafydd 21/08/85 Centre 1.80 m (5' 11") 86 kg (13 st 7 lb) 5 (8) 10
Hobbs Sam 13/05/88 Loose-Head Prop 1.92 m (6' 4") 123 kg (19 st 5 lb) 3 (5) 0
Jenkins Ellis 29/04/93 Back row 1.85 m (6' 1") 100 kg (15 st 10 lb) 0 0
Jenkins Gethin 17/11/80 Loose-Head Prop 1.88 m (6' 2") 122 kg (19 st 2 lb) 45 (3) 5
Jones Lewis 24/11/92 Scrum half 1.74 m (5' 9") 75 kg (11 st 11 lb) 2 (3) 0
Navidi Josh 30/12/90 Back row 1.85 m (6' 1") 95 kg (14 st 13 lb) 6 (1) 0
Patchell Rhys 17/05/93 Outside half 1.88 m (6' 2") 95 kg (14 st 13 lb) 4 35
Paulo Filo 06/11/87 Lock 2.01 m (6' 7") 122 kg (19 st 2 lb) 0 0
Pretorius Andries 26/09/85 Back row 1.93 m (6' 4") 110 kg (17 st 4 lb) 7 (2) 0
Reed Lou 10/09/87 Lock 1.99 m (6' 6") 113 kg (17 st 11 lb) 5 0
Rees Matthew 09/12/80 Hooker 1.88 m (6' 2") 109 kg (17 st 2 lb) 0 0
Robinson Harry 16/04/93 Wing 1.75 m (5' 9") 83 kg (13 st 1 lb) 4 0
Smith Richard 08/11/87 Centre/Wing 1.90 m (6' 3") 103 kg (16 st 3 lb) 0 0
Walker Alex 31/07/86 Scrum half 1.83 m (6' 0") 82 kg (12 st 12 lb) 0 0
Warburton Sam 05/10/88 Back row 1.88 m (6' 2") 100 kg (15 st 10 lb) 14 (6) 10
Watts-Jones Rory 15/12/88 Back row 1.88 m (6' 2") 105 kg (16 st 7 lb) 0 0
Williams Lloyd 30/11/89 Scrum half 1.83 m (6' 0") 87 kg (13 st 9 lb) 11 (1) 15
Williams Owen 02/10/91 Centre 1.90 m (6' 3") 96 kg (15 st 1 lb) 2 (2) 0
Williams Rhys 16/01/90 Hooker 1.82 m (6' 0") 107 kg (16 st 11 lb) 3 (4) 0
Williams Tom 02/04/91 Fullback/Wing 1.82 m (6' 0") 94 kg (14 st 11 lb) 0 0

by LordDowlais Mon 07 Oct 2013, 2:41 pm

Trust me, the Chiefs will walk this one, the Blues are a shambles at the moment and Phil Davies has not got a clue, it's a shame because with a decent coach the Blues have the potential to be one of the strongest sides in Europe.

by Comfort Mon 07 Oct 2013, 3:13 pm

What LD said. I'lll be surprised if we come away with 2 wins from this group. Exeter are too solid a club for us to beat at the moment, especially away from home.

Who knows though Fingers Crossed

by 21st Century Schizoid Man Mon 07 Oct 2013, 4:53 pm

ASBO,

the biggie is on 20/10 Whistle

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Thu 10 Oct 2013, 4:32 pm

The nearer that Sunday gets, the less confident I become, as is usually the way I suppose! An interesting piece in the local E&E from the ever-grounded Rob Baxter talking about Cardiff building for this one:

Baxter says Blues have been building for Sunday's clash

AFTER five tough matches in the Aviva Premiership, Exeter Chiefs open their Heineken Cup campaign at home against Cardiff Blues this Sunday.

And head coach Rob Baxter has warned his players they will face a side that are looking to hit their peak form during the European fortnight.

British & Irish Lions Sam Warburton, Leigh Halfpenny, Alex Cuthbert and Gethin Jenkins all started in last weeknd's win against Edinburgh.

However, none of them played the opening match of the campaign and one of the key quartet has been introduced back every week since.

Baxter knows that means Cardiff will be a very different prospect now compared to the Blues team that started the season.

"One thing we've got to make sure we don't ignore is that everything the RaboDirect sides have done so far is to build for this weekend," said Baxter.

"If you look at the Cardiff team that's been selected over the last five weeks, the internationals and British Lions have slowly been dripped back in to give them the game time that's required to get them ready for this weekend.

"They weren't all up and firing for the first couple of rounds of the RaboDirect, they've been preparing for this weekend and we have to be ready for that. If we think we can roll along with our Premiership form we could be surprised.

"I have to make sure the guys understand that whatever's coming will be noticeably different to what we've seen on video so far."

Exeter and Cardiff find themselves in Pool Two of the Heineken Cup, alongside defending champions Toulon and Glasgow.

The Chiefs travel to Scotland next Sunday before home and away games against lavish-spenders Toulon in December.

Baxter is keen for his players to be in the mix to finish in the top two – and potential knockout European rugby in the spring – when the final two matches come around in January.

"The important thing in any competition is that you stay in the fight for as long as you can," he said.

"It's not always about one fixture, it's about making sure that by the time the last couple of games come around you've still got something to fight for.

"There's a multitude of ways that teams have fought their way through Heineken Cup pools, we've got to make sure we keep ourselves in the fight by getting off to a good start."

With the Chiefs winning so impressively at Gloucester last time out, it would be very easy for Baxter and his fellow coaches to send out the same starting XV against Cardiff.

However, centre Sam Hill suffered a heavy blow to a shoulder, which forced him off during the second half at Kingsholm and is being monitored.

But Baxter has more players returning to full fitness, with summer signing Romana Graham playing his first match on Monday night in the A League, when Grag Bateman continued his return to fitness.

The only senior player not in Exeter's 38-man European squad is injured prop Craig Mitchell, with academy tighthead Lloyd Fairbrother included to provide back-up.

This season's Heineken Cup could be the last, with English and French clubs proposing a new competition next term, with new qualifying criteria.

While that leaves the future of the European competition in doubt, Baxter wants to make the most of it while it lasts.

"I don't think it's for directors of rugby or head coaches to get too involved in the discussions," he said of the negotiations.

"It is what it is at the moment, the qualifying procedure is what it is and you have to be prepared for it.

"We have to enjoy the Heineken Cup for what it is because it is the top competition that's going on in Europe at the moment. It's something we've worked very hard to be part of."

Looks like we will be without Sam Hill. Not expecting any of the recently recovered from injury (i.e. Sireli Naqelevuki, Greg Bateman or Romana Graham) to make an appearance.

Also in the same paper, a few words from Phil Davies:

Davies expects physical battle

PHIL Davies is expecting a tough battle up front against Exeter Chiefs when he brings his Cardiff Blues side to Sandy Park on Sunday.

The sides meet in the opening clash in Pool Two of this season's top flight European competition.

And having had a few battles against Exeter when he was in charge of Leeds, Davies is expecting more of the same.

"There will be a packed house at Sandy Park and it will be a physical game," he said. "There will be territorial battles and breakdown battles. But we are looking forward to it.

"Exeter are a good club, well run and organised, and that group of players has been together for a long time. The nucleus has been there for a while, there is a stability there and they are a tough team to beat."

Cardiff go into the game on the back of a 29-12 win against RaboDirect Pro12 strugglers Edinburgh last Sunday.

That game saw prop Gethin Jenkins return to action after four months out with a calf injury he picked up on the British & Irish Lions' tour of Australia. Lock Bradley Davies also returned from suspension, with winger Alex Cuthbert scoring two tries and Lions teammate Leigh Halfpenny kicking the rest of his side's points.

Davies hopes that will give them confidence ahead of their foray into Europe.

"We seem to be picking up before Europe, everyone is fit and hopefully we can now go into a massive game with Exeter on the front foot," he said. "We have got to look forward to the next few weeks."

by VietGwentRevisited Fri 11 Oct 2013, 12:11 pm

Exeter:
15. Phil Dollman, 14. Matt Jess, 13. Ian Whitten, 12. Jason Shoemark, 11. Fetu'u Vainikolo, 10. Gareth Steenson, 9. Dave Lewis, 1. Brett Sturgess, 2. Chris Whitehead, 3. Hoani Tui, 4. Dean Mumm (capt), 5. Damian Welch, 6. Tom Johnson, 7. Ben White, 8. Dave Ewers,
16. Jack Yeandle, 17. Ben Moon, 18. Carl Rimmer, 19. Don Armand, 20. Kai Horstmann, 21. Haydn Thomas, 22. Henry Slade, 23. Sireli Naqelevuki,

Blues
15. Leigh Halfpenny, 14. Alex Cuthbert, 13. Cory Allen, 12. Dafydd Hewitt, 11. Harry Robinson, 10. Rhys Patchell, 9. Lloyd Williams, 1. Gethin Jenkins, 2. Matthew Rees (capt), 3. Tau Filise, 4. Bradley Davies, 5. Filo Paulo, 6. Josh Navidi, 7. Sam Warburton, 8. Andries Pretorius,
16. Marc Breeze, 17. Sam Hobbs, 18. Scott Andrews, 19. Lou Reed, 20. Robin Copeland, 21. Lewis Jones, 22. Gareth Davies, 23. Richard Smith,

by Guest Fri 11 Oct 2013, 12:23 pm

Blues forwards really need to front up this game, and give that backline some quick ball as plenty of talent there

by Taffineastbourne Fri 11 Oct 2013, 12:25 pm

How Pretorius starts ahead of Copeland I will never understand.

by XR Fri 11 Oct 2013, 12:45 pm

Taffineastbourne wrote:How Pretorius starts ahead of Copeland I will never understand.

My guess would be someone from Team wales has been whispering in Phil Davies's ear. AP was poor last weekend and copeland came on and did so much more damage with ball in hand, he's our best number 8 and should be starting.

by XR Fri 11 Oct 2013, 12:47 pm

Also, just seen Ben White is starting for Exeter - be interested to hear how he's been getting on down there as he did ok for the blues when he was here but never really given a chance at the blues.

by Cardiff Dave Sat 12 Oct 2013, 12:50 pm

gcBlues wrote:Also, just seen Ben White is starting for Exeter - be interested to hear how he's been getting on down there as he did ok for the blues when he was here but never really given a chance at the blues.

Scored a try last week against Gloucester.

by wales606 Sun 13 Oct 2013, 12:40 pm

The Scarlets stepped up their game for the HC, the Ospreys didn't.

If the Blues up their game, they have the players to win this game, if they continue their form so far this season then an away win will be very, very tough.

by Coleman Sun 13 Oct 2013, 12:48 pm

Pretorius is awful :/

by wales606 Sun 13 Oct 2013, 12:49 pm

Weak tackling to start furious

by TJ Sun 13 Oct 2013, 12:52 pm

I like the way Exeter are approaching this game.

by wales606 Sun 13 Oct 2013, 12:53 pm

Allen with a lively start

He plays very flat in defence, Exeter can't risk passes like that with Allen in the 13 channel this week

by wales606 Sun 13 Oct 2013, 12:55 pm

*sigh*

by Coleman Sun 13 Oct 2013, 12:55 pm

wales606 wrote:*sigh*

by VinceWLB Sun 13 Oct 2013, 12:56 pm

It beggars belief why Pretorius is starting ahead of Copeland.

by wales606 Sun 13 Oct 2013, 12:57 pm

Have none of the Blues players been taught to tackle one on one?

by wales606 Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:02 pm

I really don't understand the current idea to never look for touch

The Blues are just letting Exeter run it back at them, and while it works well for Wales, the Blues don't have anything like the same defensive cohesion and they leave holes all over the park.

For gods sake, put the ball out when clearing from your 22!

by wales606 Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:04 pm

Seriously, the defensive organisation so far is laughable

by wales606 Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:05 pm

First time we kick to the corner and it's our first visit to the Exeter 22

by wales606 Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:11 pm

Litany of errors

The Blues defence is just embarrassing.

by Coleman Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:11 pm

Missed more tackles than we've made so far i'd wager.

by wales606 Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:11 pm

14 missed tackles in 25 minutes

furious

by TJ Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:13 pm

Its the speed of the Exeter attack - credit where credit is due. Simply playing too fast and flat for the pinks

by Cumbrian Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:13 pm

Ouch, this could get ulgy. The Chiefs have been relentless.

by wales606 Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:13 pm

The gameplan is wrong, the defensive organisation is wrong, the attacking gameplan is very wrong

by Coleman Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:13 pm

Unwatchable. This is good for the region. If we get battered maybe we can sack our coaching staff.

by VinceWLB Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:13 pm

Pinks must be thinking it's touch rugby.

by The Saint Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:14 pm

Blues are turd. Their performance and body language says it all. At least PD will be out the door soon!

by wales606 Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:14 pm

That was absolutely shambolic

I seriously can't remember a worse defensive structure than that, it was easy for the Chiefs - the Blues players weren't even watching the ball carrier for the first break!

by reallybored Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:15 pm

Ouch, this is very poor from Blues.

Outstanding from Exeter.

by wales606 Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:16 pm

18 missed tackles in 29 minutes

by Guest Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:17 pm

This is just upsetting to watch :/

by wales606 Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:18 pm

Really really tempted to turn off now.

This will be an Amlin scoreline.

4 years of absolutely terrible rugby, and I still can't remember a worse 30 minutes of rugby from the Blues.

At least this should see the end of Phil Davies next month. We need Shaun Edwards and a new backs coach desperately.

by The Saint Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:18 pm

And there it is. Things could get even uglier against Glasgow if the form of the two teams doesn't change.

by TJ Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:18 pm

I may have to eat some words. In the HC discussions I have been using Exeter as an example " why is the 6th english team worth more than the 2nd scots" - well this is some performance. Rugby as it should be played

by Coleman Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:19 pm

We're 30-3 down. . . Can we stop kicking now please. We need to run from everywhere if we're going to get back in this game. Our game plan is dreadful.

by The Saint Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:20 pm

wales606 wrote:Really really tempted to turn off now.

This will be an Amlin scoreline.

4 years of absolutely terrible rugby, and I still can't remember a worse 30 minutes of rugby from the Blues.

At least this should see the end of Phil Davies next month. We need Shaun Edwards and a new backs coach desperately.

There was much worse in the past 4 years, a couple games at the RDS for example. The rest is correct though Very Happy

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by wales606 Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:20 pm

Stop kicking the f*cking ball!

You are 26pts down and the Chiefs are playing an open game, you won't make anything from kicking the ball away!

Seriously, there must be someone at the club who understands rugby? A cleaner somewhere?

by LeinsterFan4life Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:20 pm

Strange that Copeland is not starting.

by Guest Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:21 pm

Exeter are on fire, but the Blues don't look like they can even be bothered now

by wales606 Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:21 pm

The Saint wrote:
wales606 wrote:Really really tempted to turn off now.

This will be an Amlin scoreline.

4 years of absolutely terrible rugby, and I still can't remember a worse 30 minutes of rugby from the Blues.

At least this should see the end of Phil Davies next month. We need Shaun Edwards and a new backs coach desperately.
There was much worse in the past 4 years, a couple games at the RDS for example. The rest is correct though .

Away in the RDS and at home to Ulster were horrible, but that was over the 80 - perhaps only the HC 1/4 against Leinster comes close for such an awful 30 minutes

by Coleman Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:22 pm

wales606 wrote:Seriously, there must be someone at the club who understands rugby? A cleaner somewhere?

Not on the permanent coaching staff.

by wales606 Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:24 pm

Coleman wrote:
wales606 wrote:Seriously, there must be someone at the club who understands rugby? A cleaner somewhere?
Not on the permanent coaching staff.

The groundsman has been around a while, he must have some free time with the new pitch?

by The Saint Sun 13 Oct 2013, 1:26 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Strange that Copeland is not starting.

Quite strange when you consider that Copeland is a great player and Pretorious is garbage. Maybe a monkey makes the decisions...

Only Toulon to come after this.... I feel sorry for Blues! Be funny if bluesman was here right now...

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