HK Round 2 - Perpignan vs Edinburgh

First topic message reminder :

Sunday 20th October
12:35pm KO UK time
Stade Aimé Giral, Perpignan

Perpignan  

Perpignan:

15 Joffrey Michel, 14 Watisoni Votu, 13 David Marty, 12 Sione Piukala, 11 Richard Haughton, 10 James Hook, 9 Dewaldt Duvenage, 8 Luke Narraway, 7 Jean-Pierre Perez, 6 Justin Purll, 5 Romain Taofifenua, 4 Sebastien Vahaamahina, 3 George Jgenti, 2 Guilhem Guirado (c), 1 Sona Taumalolo.

Replacements:

16 Romain Terrain, 17 Sebastien Taofifenua, 18 Kisi Pulu, 19 Karl Chateau, 20 Nicolas Durand, 21 Tommy Allan, 22 Wandile Mjekevu, 23 Luke Charteris.

Edinburgh  

15 Jack Cuthbert



14 Dougie Fife

13 Nick De Luca

12 Matt Scott

11 Tim Visser



10 Harry Leonard

9 Greig Laidlaw CAPTAIN



1 Alasdair Dickinson

2 Ross Ford

3 Willem Nel

4 Grant Gilchrist

5 Sean Cox

6 Cornell Du Preez

7 Roddy Grant

8 David Denton



Substitutes

16 Aleki Lutui

17 Wicus Blaauw

18 Geoff Cross

19 Izak van der Westhuizen

20 Tomas Leonardi

21 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne

22 Joaquin Dominguez

23 Greig Tonks

Some good pre-match reading from Edinburgh's defence coach - I really like this guy actually.  He's saying the right things and I think he's going to be a really good coach for this Edinburgh team

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby/latest/mouneimne-fired-up-for-edinburgh-s-perpignan-trip-1-3142844

http://www.edinburghrugby.org/news/13/10/15/edinburgh-rugby-defence-coach-demands-more

p.s. I know this thread isn't as good as George Carlin's, but I've neither the time or enthusiasm to make it any better!

RDW, for the Welsh observers, what % of your posts were on topic insightful comments and what were comments on soap dodging/red trousers?

whocares wrote:quite a strong front 5 from Perpignan...as for 6 to 15 I have my doubts...

Agree that is a very disappointing backline....... Michel at FB has hardly played in any of the big games, Marty at what 31 is well past his best days as a fringe French international and ex Sarries/Wasps Haughton played one game for Guernsey I believe is only on a year "cover" contract. Ironically one of Hooks best games for Perpignan was last week at 15 so its disappointing that Allan who had impressed the Italy training camp isn't starting at flyhalf.

Sorry I stand corrected it was Jersey not Guernsey but Haughton is another player who at 32 is well past his best.

Its ironic that the accusations that the Pro12 squads don't put their best sides out until the HC rounds seem to be the opposite with some French sides

That would appear to give Edinburgh a better chance - dunno tho for sure

V odd when its a home game for USAP?

Weegie Wizard wrote:RDW, for the Welsh observers, what % of your posts were on topic insightful comments and what were comments on soap dodging/red trousers?

I'd like to think all of my posts are insightful comments, but in reality it is a pretty low % probably!  

Slightly more optimistic to hear that is a weakened team - is anyone able to compare it with what their strongest team is to see how many changes there are?

Agree ASBO as its a home game you would have thought they would be looking for 5 points. The word on the terrace last week is that the HC is not on their agenda this season which is annoying the fan base, the management view is if they win then they would be back in it and if they don't then they will put shadow sides out thereafter and concentrate on the league.

Bit surprised to see Grant at openside. Watson would be a better bet imo. Lets face it Grant has been next to useless this season so far.

Intersting that Glaws have already given up against Munster by resting a number of key players.

Will Glaws be fined?

This is getting ridiculous - the English and French complain that we rest player for the HK, then they go and rest players in the HK for their league games??

VinceWLB wrote:Bit surprised to see Grant at openside. Watson would be a better bet imo. Lets face it Grant has been next to useless this season so far.

But he is a ginger tackle monster if not the ginger tackle monster

RDW_Scotland wrote:This is getting ridiculous - the English and French complain that we rest player for the HK, then they go and rest players in the HK for their league games??

Yup - it shows the Hypocrisy

Not that I'm complaining like...

Of course they could argue they have to rest players so they do well in the league and qualify for next season...only to rest players again during the competition they rested players in to qualify for in the first place....!  

We've got Cloucester at home after Perpignan - if they lose to Munster this round and we manage to beat Gloucester at home next round then the away leg to Gloucester could become a lot more winnable.

Perpignan:
 
15 Joffrey Michel, 14 Watisoni Votu, 13 David Marty, 12 Sione Piukala, 11 Richard Haughton, 10 James Hook, 9 Dewaldt Duvenage, 8 Luke Narraway, 7 Jean-Pierre Perez, 6 Justin Purll, 5 Romain Taofifenua, 4 Sebastien Vahaamahina, 3 George Jgenti, 2 Guilhem Guirado (c), 1 Sona Taumalolo.
 
Replacements:
 
16 Romain Terrain, 17 Sebastien Taofifenua, 18 Kisi Pulu, 19 Karl Chateau, 20 Nicolas Durand, 21 Tommy Allan, 22 Wandile Mjekevu, 23 Luke Charteris.

TJ wrote:

VinceWLB wrote:Bit surprised to see Grant at openside. Watson would be a better bet imo. Lets face it Grant has been next to useless this season so far.

But he is a ginger tackle monster if not the ginger tackle monster

I would have the true ginger tackle monster playing out of position rather than him  

I’m not getting too excited about any perceived weakness of having Hook at 10 instead of 15 – this guy is still a vastly experienced, multi-capped Grand Slam winning British and Irish Lion.

And we have Harry Leonard.

RDW_Scotland wrote:This is getting ridiculous - the English and French complain that we rest player for the HK, then they go and rest players in the HK for their league games??

well they are not starting with a 2nd choice backline on purpose. obligatory resting of french internationals (lopez, guitoune) is taking its toll as well as injuries or suspensions (mafi) and their depth has never been so great there anyway. Michel is actually a good fullback, sent Porical to the bench last season.

Game day!

Game is on sky sports 2 red button, or any 'legal' internet stream of your choice!

Can anyone PM a link to watch online if they find one that works?
And is in strict compliance with all applicable laws, of course.  

Massive blow for Edinburgh - Denton and Matt Scott have been ruled out.

Baws.

Can someone in he know please provide me a link for this match?

Much appreciated.

RDW_Scotland wrote:Massive blow for Edinburgh - Denton and Matt Scott have been ruled out.

Baws.

Buggah. Let's see what the RGs can do.

justified sinner wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:Massive blow for Edinburgh - Denton and Matt Scott have been ruled out.

Baws.

Buggah. Let's see what the RGs can do.

Oh god. Does that means that we are starting with two opensides? Moffat-tastic.

I'm surprised he didn't promote vdv and move cox to 6

Think Leonardi is more of a 6/8 and was only shoehorned in at 7 on his previous outing because everyone else was broken, but could be wrong.

Leonardi is definitely more a 6 than a 7.

Who's the Muppet doing the commentary? Just keeps yelling out Embra players names at random, some of who aren't playing. Sky!

Right, so Tomas Leonardi and Joaquin Dominguez start, Ollie Atkins and Lee Jones to the bench. Anyone got a stream for this one? Please? I'll get FES to give you free legal advice for a year.

Promising start from Edinburgh, need to take points from this pressure.

I don't think the commentator can read.

George Carlin wrote:Right, so Tomas Leonardi and Joaquin Dominguez start, Ollie Atkins and Lee Jones to the bench. Anyone got a stream for this one? Please? I'll get FES to give you free legal advice for a year.

Sorry managed to get sky go working so no stream.

Edinburgh's rucking technique leaves a lot to be desired.

That I'd the most ridiculous TMO decision I've seen yet. What are the ARs for!

F@#k me they went to the TMO for a missed penalty?!?  They really need to sort this out.  The TMO gave it despite the touch judge under the outside post not.

Any kind soul want to send me a link?

Couple of PMs sent out

Alba gu brath wrote:Couple of PMs sent out

 

GLove39 wrote:

Alba gu brath wrote:Couple of PMs sent out

 

No worky Alba but thanks anyway bro.

Edinburgh looking strong in contact.

Lifters screwed up on that lineout

Perpignan look a bit sloppy, this game is there for the taking. Patience and composure is all that is needed.

got ospreys game what channel is this on ?

Perp have used two of their subs within the first 25 minutes?

If that Perpignan want's to roll about on the turf, he should go and find a wendy ball team

alive555 wrote:got ospreys game what channel is this on ?

Sky Sports 2, Red Button.

Leonardi's really putting his body on the line, taking some advices from Basil

George Carlin wrote:Perp have used two of their subs within the first 25 minutes?

That's because us Rabo teams don't care about the league so can therefore afford to play a much more physical game come the HC   

This game is awful. Perpignan there for the taking though.

 

Nice move.

Seriously, Visser what a finisher.