Ireland V Australia

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ME-109 wrote:All water under the bridge now....Aus up next which will be interesting...someone start a thread

How hard was that..........

It's so sad to see, cause Ireland have some brilliant players. I wish they could claw their way back.

Archer is on but Best is off too.

Paddy Ryan on.  

I do think that the biggest mistake was starting with Redden over Murray.

Another try

Linebreaker wrote:Paddy Ryan on.  

Enjoying this breaker?

Aussies mauling over. Who would have thought that!

Not looking good for Ireland.

Another try for Oz.

Oh Ireland.  

Can we now stop saying that the Aussie pack is weak? They are also missing great forwards such as Higginbottom and Pocock.

Nachos Jones wrote:

Linebreaker wrote:Paddy Ryan on.  

Enjoying this breaker?

Mainly relieved, Nachos... but yes, I'm enjoying it.
Ireland are off their game but the Wallabies aren't that polished either.

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Can we now stop saying that the Aussie pack is weak? They are also missing great forwards such as Higginbottom and Pocock.

Ok but can we also stop saying that Leinster is what makes Ireland tick?

Ireland are rubbish.

You know things are going teets up when Tommy knocks on...he looks  

SOB off now too.

Linebreaker wrote:

Nachos Jones wrote:

Linebreaker wrote:Paddy Ryan on.  

Enjoying this breaker?

Mainly relieved, Nachos... but yes, I'm enjoying it.
Ireland are off their game but the Wallabies aren't that polished either.

This is proper pish from Ireland but the Aussies have been very solid.

Nachos Jones wrote:

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Can we now stop saying that the Aussie pack is weak? They are also missing great forwards such as Higginbottom and Pocock.

Ok but can we also stop saying that Leinster is what makes Ireland tick?

And can stop saying Reddan will speed up play with his lightening fast pass! Out of his depth

Uh-oh, possible dump tackle and POM kicking off "It's fecking dangerous...!" he says.

That looks dodgy as feck.

Disgraceful tackle.

The Aussie tight 5 are weak. But when you roll out in an international game with utter passengers like Ross and Toner then you are in trouble.

Big bad O'Mahony doing his 'I'm bad bejeezus!' impression. If only he put in as much effort around the field rather than hiding again in the backs.

Utter half wit. They always make things hard for themselves.

Well now if Ireland can't get anything from the red card...they're really fecked.

Try coming up for Ireland I'd say...

CHILLI INJURED!!! Noooooo. Awh he's had such a hard time with injuries.

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:The Aussie tight 5 are weak. But when you roll out in an international game with utter passengers like Ross and Toner then you are in trouble.

Big bad O'Mahony doing his 'I'm bad bejeezus!' impression. If only he put in as much effort around the field rather than hiding again in the backs.

Sorry but what? POM has not had the best of games but he has shown more than a lot of the Irish pack... Future Ireland Captain...

Awh gawd, it looks like his ribs.  I hope he's OK.  That's bad news for next week what with Sexytoes injury as well.  Token Connacht man back on.

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:The Aussie tight 5 are weak. But when you roll out in an international game with utter passengers like Ross and Toner then you are in trouble.

Yeah unfortunately thats true, our tight five has been monstered.

Shame Henshaw lost that.

Try from Cronin!

A chink of light at the end of a very dark tunnel!  

Oh wait...may be disallowed due to a knock on.

Knock on.

This has been dreadful by Ireland.

Ah, we don't even get the consolation try.

Yep...Murray knocked on unfortunately. Just the perfect end to Ireland's day really.

I was waiting for the TMO to say "there was a knock on... but not a big one... you can award the try!"  

Commiserations Irish fans.

Well done Oz. Your guys bossed the breakdown and executed some good tries.

15-32 FT.

At least Kidney could organise and Ireland side to beat the Aussies...  

A seriously off day from the Irish. What was more surprising though was that they were totally dominated in the scrum, honestly never thought I'd see that.

Linebreaker wrote:I was waiting for the TMO to say "there was a knock on... but not a big one... you can award the try!"  

And I was awaiting a penalty for the Aussies being offside

The only tiny positive was Marshall who was a 6.5/10. Everyone else was diabolical.

NZ would have put 60 on us today.

Whats that sound? Oh yea, its knives being sharpened...

 

Heres how it goes:

a) some people are furious for a while
b) some really respectable sensible people then come in all high and mighty and declare 'Its only his second game'
c) there is a backlash claiming that he 'did it all the time with leinster, he's hardly new to coaching'
d) Then some people give it the whole 'a coach cant make players not be stupid - its them that let us down'
e) Then others come in and say 'here settle down, we were missing key players and got unlucky with injuries...
f) the argument repeats....


3...2...1... GO!!!

Marshall was class today.

Schmidt got the starting 15 wrong I feel...

wolfball wrote:NZ would have put 60 on us today.

...and they never did that under Kidney...  

Well, there we go- Schmidt will now have a good insight into the scale of the job he has. I think BOD could be dropped, but I wouldn't drop him because I'm sentimental and I want to see him have one last crack at the All Blacks. Besides it's not exactly the game to blood a new 13. I just fear it'll be the game that buries the old 13.

Jackson for next week if Sexton is out mind you, thought he was better than Madigan. Reddan starting was a mistake and maybe, FINALLY, we'll try Tuohy in the second row. Not much else to say. We can't change all 15 players after all.

Commiserations Ireland fans.

It was a bigger margin than I expected. I thought it would be much closer +/- 3 to 5 points each way. There are some signs that the Wallabies are getting it together but they still leave points on the field with missed kicks at goal and too many forced/unforced errors at crucial times.

I'm just glad they've won 2 in a row now. Scotland and Wales will be tough matches and we'll need to play even better.

Nachos Jones wrote:Marshall was class today.

Schmidt got the starting 15 wrong I feel...

Every single break he made, there was nobody on his shoulder.  Same with every other break made by any irish player.

Horrible, horrible game.  Our support play really must be the worst in world rugby.

clivemcl wrote:a) some people are furious for a while
b) some really respectable sensible people then come in all high and mighty and declare 'Its only his second game'
c) there is a backlash claiming that he 'did it all the time with leinster, he's hardly new to coaching'
d) Then some people give it the whole 'a coach cant make players not be stupid - its them that let us down'
e) Then others come in and say 'here settle down, we were missing key players and got unlucky with injuries...
f) the argument repeats....

I don't think anyone is going to write off a new coaching ticket after one game and three weeks of preparation. Of course he'll take some responsibility along with the players.

I still believe that Schmidt is the right man to lead Ireland but do believe that its a very long road for him.

Where are the people now who said Sexton would become a better player in France? Utter nonsense of course. He looks a shadow of his former self.

Nachos Jones wrote:I still believe that Schmidt is the right man to lead Ireland but do believe that its a very long road for him.

Agreed.  To be honest, he is in a difficult position.  Imbalances across the field, players who are well past their best, and just total lack of confidence with ball in hand.  Not to mention the fact nobody seems to be on the right wavelength.

That isn't to justify the crap produced today, but honestly he has a lot of work to do and long term mistakes to fix.  Hopefully this game will have given him a lot to think about.

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

Nachos Jones wrote:I still believe that Schmidt is the right man to lead Ireland but do believe that its a very long road for him.

Agreed.  To be honest, he is in a difficult position.  Imbalances across the field, players who are well past their best, and just total lack of confidence with ball in hand.  Not to mention the fact nobody seems to be on the right wavelength.

That isn't to justify the crap produced today, but honestly he has a lot of work to do and long term mistakes to fix.  Hopefully this game will have given him a lot to think about.

You know, for some reason I feel as if Schmidt is more doing a feeling out phase here. At the end of the day, these AI's are not that important. I think he will click into gear around the 6N.

I think every test match is important. I'd be willing to sacrifice a few results this autumn for long-term progression, but Schmidt has maybe preferred Leinster players when he's had to make a 50/50 call in the name of continuity and familiarity so thats a short-term strategy.