England Saxons v Irish Wolfhounds - Kingsholm

by Chjw131 Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:14 pm

First topic message reminder :

25th January 2014 - Live on Sky Sports 1 (4:45pm Kick Off)

Saxons XXIII to face Ireland Wolfhounds:

1. A Waller
2. J George
3. T Mercy
4. C Matthews
5. G Kruis
6. C Clarke (c)
7. L Wallace
8. D Ewers
9. J Simpson
10. F Burns
11. C Sharples
12. S Hill
13. M Hopper
14. A Watson
15. E Daly

16. D Ward 17. N Catt 18. S Wilson 19. E Stooke 20. S Dickinson 21. D Lewis 22. H Slade 23. R Miller

Ireland XXIII

15. Felix Jones (Shannon/Munster)
14. Fergus McFadden (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
13. Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Connacht)
12. Darren Cave (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)
11. Craig Gilroy (Dungannon/Ulster)
10. Ian Madigan (Blackrock College/Leinster)
9. Isaac Boss (Terenure College/Leinster)
1. David Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster)
2. Rob Herring (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
3. Martin Moore (Lansdowne/Leinster)
4. Iain Henderson (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
5. Dan Tuohy (Ballymena/Ulster)
6. Rhys Ruddock (St. Mary’s College/Leinster) (capt)
7. Tommy O’Donnell (UL Bohemians/Munster)
8. Robin Copeland (Cardiff Blues)

Replacements:

16. Richardt Strauss (Old Wesley/Leinster)
17. Jack McGrath (St. Mary’s College/Leinster)
18. Stephen Archer (Cork Constitution/Munster)
19. Robbie Diack (Malone/Ulster)
20. Jordi Murphy (Lansdowne/Leinster)
21. Kieran Marmion (Corinthians/Connacht)
22. Ian Keatley (Young Munster/Munster)
23. Simon Zebo (Cork Constitution/Munster)

by **Notch** Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:17 pm

Just got in- missed the first try. Ireland doing some very good stuff at the breakdown.

by GloriousEmpire Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:17 pm

Saxons have nothing but the maul and crash ball, and burn's ludicrously hopeful speculative miss-five loopy pass to the wings.

by yappysnap Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:18 pm

Wolfhounds are killing us at the breakdown. With the wind in their favor we're having to run it and doing it badly right now.

by Gretgael1 Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:18 pm

Copeland has started well, apart from one indecisive moment under a high ball. The Irish Backrow have looked good so far.

by GloriousEmpire Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:19 pm

Referee doesn't know the forward pass law.

by yappysnap Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:19 pm

Burns having a poor game so far but not being helped by the forwards or his 9

by yappysnap Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:21 pm

Much better from Burns

by neilthom7 Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:21 pm

Yeah I was thinking that myself GE surely it was taken forward by wind not meant to pass forward the action was surely backwards

by Golden Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:21 pm

Scrum was a complete mess

by yappysnap Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:23 pm

Frickin hell Ireland are getting away with murder at the breakdown here

by GloriousEmpire Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:23 pm

neilthom7 wrote:Yeah I was thinking that myself GE surely it was taken forward by wind not meant to pass forward the action was surely backwards

Yep, he's called two like that so far. Surely just a basic for a referee to know this stuff?

by Nachos Jones Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:24 pm

Good pressure here by the Wolfhounds.

by yappysnap Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:25 pm

England's kicking is really struggling in the wind. Need to start working hard at the breakdown too and just run the ball rather then panic passes!

by **Notch** Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:26 pm

by GloriousEmpire Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:26 pm

Dopey!

by Nachos Jones Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:26 pm

Oh bollix, just what the wolfhounds didn't need.

by Golden Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:26 pm

Looked like they were really trying to force the passes, that because of the wind?

by wolfball Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:27 pm

terrible game. Ireland is poor, England poorer. Despite his try I think Boss is playing terribly.

by GloriousEmpire Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:27 pm

And that was a direct result of the incorrect forward pass calls we've had, with the players trying to ensure the passes actually went backwards against the wind.

by neilthom7 Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:27 pm

Ah come on guys Gilroy you must take that pass although robbie he is on your team and 2 metres away you don't need top try and kill him with the pace, basic error and try cost

by **Notch** Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:28 pm

Need to settle it down, the conditions mean its going to be a slog. Not impressed with Madigan and Cave for that try- need to adapt to the weather.

by Golden Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:30 pm

Much better from the Wolfhounds. Nice little one handed pass from boss off the deck

by GloriousEmpire Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:30 pm

Every single ruck there's a Saxon player diving into the wrong side.

by GunsGerms Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:30 pm

Poor catch Gilroy

by **Notch** Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:30 pm

And now you see Ireland react immediately. Just seems like everyone lifted their game in response to the try.

by Nachos Jones Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:30 pm

Great power from Kilcoyne.

by Nachos Jones Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:31 pm

Terrible indicipline from England.

Looks a try Very Happy

by Golden Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:32 pm

Good awareness from Madigan, Poor game so far though.

by neilthom7 Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:32 pm

Great quick thinking by Madigan well played sir

by **Notch** Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:33 pm

Madigan is always such a mixed bag isn't he? Quick thinking, high risk player.

When he's confident he's impressive.

by yappysnap Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:33 pm

Good try by Watson then Madigan does well for Ireland. Don't think it was anywhere near the mark though!

by Nachos Jones Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:34 pm

Madigan needs to show a little more control. Great try but he is having a very bad game so far.

by Golden Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:34 pm

Great tackle from Henderson

by **Notch** Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:34 pm

And there's the other side of Madigan. Honestly don't know what to make of him.

We should be winning the territory battle with this wind.

by neilthom7 Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:34 pm

oh SHarples meet Henderson lol

by GunsGerms Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:35 pm

Schooling the English in back play.

by asoreleftshoulder Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:35 pm

Ireland pretty well on top but need to get scores cos that wind will make it a lot tougher in the 2nd half.

by yappysnap Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:35 pm

Do Irish tacklers never have to release the tackled player now?

by Nachos Jones Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:38 pm

Burns has been playing well for the Saxons.

by **Notch** Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:38 pm

So we push the ball wide in our own 22, and then our 10 box-kicks from the base of the ruck down the middle with no kick chase.

Where's the structure and organisation Ireland?

by yappysnap Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:39 pm

Hopper playing really well so far, just needs to hold onto the ball

by Geordie Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:39 pm

Why is Daly not at 13...

Our backs look clueless

by neilthom7 Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:40 pm

Kilcoyne needs to come off for Ireland he is on Jelly legs

by Golden Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:41 pm

Great breakdown work there.

Poor kick from McFadden but he put in a good tackle to make up for it,

by yappysnap Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:41 pm

Ref if at every ruck you have to tell an Irish player to roll away then fracking penalise them for not rolling away!

by Golden Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:43 pm

Ireland really didnt use that wind at all.

Very unstuctured game

by yappysnap Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:44 pm

Well that was a terrible 40 mins of rugby! Perfect precursor to the 6Ns really...

by Nachos Jones Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:44 pm

Not the best of games, England will have the wind in the second half so that will help them. They do need to improve their discipline though.

by ChequeredJersey Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:46 pm

Score?

by Nachos Jones Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:47 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:Score?

14-5 Ireland.

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