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Post by Chjw131 Fri 17 Jan 2014 - 13:14

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25th January 2014 - Live on Sky Sports 1 (4:45pm Kick Off)

Saxons XXIII to face Ireland Wolfhounds:

1. A Waller
2. J George
3. T Mercy
4. C Matthews
5. G Kruis
6. C Clarke (c)
7. L Wallace
8. D Ewers
9. J Simpson
10. F Burns
11. C Sharples
12. S Hill
13. M Hopper
14. A Watson
15. E Daly

16. D Ward 17. N Catt 18. S Wilson 19. E Stooke 20. S Dickinson 21. D Lewis 22. H Slade 23. R Miller


Ireland XXIII

15. Felix Jones (Shannon/Munster)
14. Fergus McFadden (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
13. Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Connacht)
12. Darren Cave (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)
11. Craig Gilroy (Dungannon/Ulster)
10. Ian Madigan (Blackrock College/Leinster)
9. Isaac Boss (Terenure College/Leinster)
1. David Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster)
2. Rob Herring (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
3. Martin Moore (Lansdowne/Leinster)
4. Iain Henderson (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
5. Dan Tuohy (Ballymena/Ulster)
6. Rhys Ruddock (St. Mary’s College/Leinster) (capt)
7. Tommy O’Donnell (UL Bohemians/Munster)
8. Robin Copeland (Cardiff Blues)

Replacements:

16. Richardt Strauss (Old Wesley/Leinster)
17. Jack McGrath (St. Mary’s College/Leinster)
18. Stephen Archer (Cork Constitution/Munster)
19. Robbie Diack (Malone/Ulster)
20. Jordi Murphy (Lansdowne/Leinster)
21. Kieran Marmion (Corinthians/Connacht)
22. Ian Keatley (Young Munster/Munster)
23. Simon Zebo (Cork Constitution/Munster)


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Post by Notch Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:17

Just got in- missed the first try. Ireland doing some very good stuff at the breakdown.
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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:17

Saxons have nothing but the maul and crash ball, and burn's ludicrously hopeful speculative miss-five loopy pass to the wings.

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Post by yappysnap Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:18

Wolfhounds are killing us at the breakdown. With the wind in their favor we're having to run it and doing it badly right now.

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Post by Gretgael1 Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:18

Copeland has started well, apart from one indecisive moment under a high  ball. The Irish Backrow have looked good so far.

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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:19

Referee doesn't know the forward pass law.

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Post by yappysnap Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:19

Burns having a poor game so far but not being helped by the forwards or his 9

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Post by yappysnap Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:21

Much better from Burns

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Post by neilthom7 Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:21

Yeah I was thinking that myself GE surely it was taken forward by wind not meant to pass forward the action was surely backwards

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Post by Golden Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:21

Scrum was a complete mess

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Post by yappysnap Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:23

Frickin hell Ireland are getting away with murder at the breakdown here

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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:23

neilthom7 wrote:Yeah I was thinking that myself GE surely it was taken forward by wind not meant to pass forward the action was surely backwards

Yep, he's called two like that so far. Surely just a basic for a referee to know this stuff?

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Post by Nachos Jones Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:24

Good pressure here by the Wolfhounds.

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Post by yappysnap Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:25

England's kicking is really struggling in the wind. Need to start working hard at the breakdown too and just run the ball rather then panic passes!

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Post by Notch Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:26

Doh 
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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:26

Dopey!

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Post by Nachos Jones Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:26

Oh bollix, just what the wolfhounds didn't need.

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Post by Golden Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:26

Looked like they were really trying to force the passes, that because of the wind?

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Post by wolfball Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:27

terrible game. Ireland is poor, England poorer. Despite his try I think Boss is playing terribly.

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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:27

And that was a direct result of the incorrect forward pass calls we've had, with the players trying to ensure the passes actually went backwards against the wind.

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Post by neilthom7 Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:27

Ah come on guys Gilroy you must take that pass although robbie he is on your team and 2 metres away you don't need top try and kill him with the pace, basic error and try cost

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Post by Notch Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:28

Need to settle it down, the conditions mean its going to be a slog. Not impressed with Madigan and Cave for that try- need to adapt to the weather.
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Post by Golden Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:30

Much better from the Wolfhounds. Nice little one handed pass from boss off the deck

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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:30

Every single ruck there's a Saxon player diving into the wrong side.

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Post by GunsGerms Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:30

Poor catch Gilroy

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Post by Notch Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:30

And now you see Ireland react immediately. Just seems like everyone lifted their game in response to the try.
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Post by Nachos Jones Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:30

Great power from Kilcoyne.

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Post by Nachos Jones Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:31

Terrible indicipline from England.

Looks a try Very Happy

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Post by Golden Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:32

Good awareness from Madigan, Poor game so far though.

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Post by neilthom7 Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:32

Great quick thinking by Madigan well played sir

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Post by Notch Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:33

Madigan is always such a mixed bag isn't he? Quick thinking, high risk player.

When he's confident he's impressive.
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Post by yappysnap Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:33

Good try by Watson then Madigan does well for Ireland. Don't think it was anywhere near the mark though!

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Post by Nachos Jones Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:34

Madigan needs to show a little more control. Great try but he is having a very bad game so far.

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Post by Golden Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:34

Great tackle from Henderson

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Post by Notch Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:34

And there's the other side of Madigan. Honestly don't know what to make of him.

We should be winning the territory battle with this wind.


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Post by neilthom7 Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:34

oh SHarples meet Henderson lol

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Post by GunsGerms Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:35

Schooling the English in back play.

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Post by asoreleftshoulder Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:35

Ireland pretty well on top but need to get scores cos that wind will make it a lot tougher in the 2nd half.

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Post by yappysnap Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:35

Do Irish tacklers never have to release the tackled player now?

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Post by Nachos Jones Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:38

Burns has been playing well for the Saxons.

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Post by Notch Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:38

So we push the ball wide in our own 22, and then our 10 box-kicks from the base of the ruck down the middle with no kick chase.

Where's the structure and organisation Ireland?


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Post by yappysnap Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:39

Hopper playing really well so far, just needs to hold onto the ball

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Post by Geordie Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:39

Why is Daly not at 13...

Our backs look clueless

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Post by neilthom7 Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:40

Kilcoyne needs to come off for Ireland he is on Jelly legs

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Post by Golden Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:41

Great breakdown work there. 

Poor kick from McFadden but he put in a good tackle to make up for it,

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Post by yappysnap Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:41

Ref if at every ruck you have to tell an Irish player to roll away then fracking penalise them for not rolling away!

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Post by Golden Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:43

Ireland really didnt use that wind at all.

Very unstuctured game

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Post by yappysnap Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:44

Well that was a terrible 40 mins of rugby! Perfect precursor to the 6Ns really...

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Post by Nachos Jones Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:44

Not the best of games, England will have the wind in the second half so that will help them. They do need to improve their discipline though.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:46

Score?
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Post by Nachos Jones Sat 25 Jan 2014 - 17:47

ChequeredJersey wrote:Score?

14-5 Ireland.

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