European Season so far..

First topic message reminder :

Just a couple of observations after the first phase of the european season comes to an end.

The Irish provinces and the French super clubs are utterly dominant again. English, wales and scots are not really able to compete consistently for group wins and as such home semi's. I cant really see this changing any time soon and it is a structural and financial issue.

Welsh sides actually out of all forms of european rugby including Amlin is a poor showing. English clubs finish second in 5 of the 6 HC pools and top of 3 of the 5 amlin pools, meaning only the bottom 3 of the premiership fail to qualify for next phase of european season. This leaves me to conclude that english club rugby is not in terrible shape but just cannot compete right at the top of the game.

Oh and one last point, if anyone has the time to check out the amlin tables, do you think the italians should be there at all?

No - not inclined to answer it either way now, beshocked.  

Much too snarly for a guy I thought knew I respected him for his opinions even if I seldom agreed with them....and said so even a few days ago in private to another English poster when you weren't even around and I'd just come back from the month or so I'd taken away from here.

Pity that - seems I didn't know you at all.  But I did and do know what I mean when I said I did.  Don't be so precious about that - where I come from it's merely a way of saying we've chatted and largely managed to chat with mutual respect. Where I come from that's "Knowing" someone.

Wrong again I suppose even on that one.  Come back Mrs P.  Forgive me - you were right all along.

Secretfly the problem with text like this is that you can't see the context.

I respect your posts too. I do snarl occasionally - sometimes justifiably, sometimes not so. I like to challenge a perception someone has. I am not always right of course, wrong quite a lot, sometimes I admit it, sometimes I don't. I can be too provocative, perhaps I should rein it in a bit.

Being precious? Not at all. Just sometimes it's interesting to see how people tick. See what people think.

I apologise if I have offended you.

quinsforever wrote:am not a matt dawson fan. have played golf with him and he's not gracious or charming at all.

but it was a delightful dummy...

Not even my favourite Dawson dummy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snCjO6aDX5U 2 minutes in