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Post by Bathite Wed May 18, 2011 9:16 pm

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SARACENS

"There's definately something special happening at Saracens"


2010/2011 Inaugural ERL Season
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4th Place in League
Playoff Semifinalist
Manager of the Month 6 times winner Saracens - Page 10 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 10 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 10 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 10 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 10 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 10 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=


INFORMATION
Old Site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A84388378
Head Coach: Bathite
Forwards Coach: Danny Grewcock
Backs Coach: Mike Catt

FIXTURES

Heineken: Finished 2nd in Group
1. Ospreys (A) 25-18 (L)
2. Clermont (H) 29-20 (W)
2nd in Group - Challenge Cup

Challenge Cup: Winner
Semi-Final: Leinster (N) 30-31 (W)
Final: Stade Francais (N) 21-30 (W)

Knockout Cup: 1st Round Loss
1st Round. Highlanders (A) 25-22 (L)

League: 4th
Record: P22 W13 D3 L6
1. Leinster (A) 26-19 (L)
2. Northampton (H) 23-22 (W)
3. Ospreys (A) 32-19 (L)
4. Toulouse (A) 30-16 (L)
5. Highlanders (H) 22-24 (L) LBP
6. Stade (A) 22-22 (D)
7. Toulon (H) 28-17 (W)
8. Bath (A) 28-26 (W)
9. Biarritz (H) 31-23 (W) WBP
10. Clermont (A) 19-31 (W) WBP
11. Leicester (H) 27-20 (W)
12. Leinster (H) 30-22 (W) WBP
13. Northampton (A) 33-20 (W) WBP
14. Ospreys (H) 29-29 (D)
15. Toulouse (H) 25-28 (L) LBP
16. Highlanders (A) 27-25 (L) LBP
17. Stade (H) 31-22 (W) WBP
18. Toulon (A) 19-33 (W) WBP
19. Bath (H) 32-22 (W) WBP
20. Biarritz (A) 21-27 (W)
21. Clermont (H) 20-0 (W)
22. Leicester (A) 23-23 (D)



MATCHDAY


PositionStrongest Squad
1S.Tonga'uia
2B.Du Plessis
3O.Franks
4L.Nallet
5P.Albacete
6R.Elsom
7S.Burger
8S.Parisse
9J.Cowan
10N.Evans
11H.Gear
12M.Nonu
13J.Fourie
14D.Mitchell
15I.Toeava
16R.Roncero
17P.Dixon
18R.M-Chluski
19M.Bergamasco
20R.Wigglesworth
21B.James
22C.Heymans

FIRST TEAM SQUAD

Hookers: 2
Props: 5
Lock: 4
Back Row: 7
Half Backs: 4
Centres: 3
Back Three: 5
Squad Size: 29 (29 Available)

Forwards
NamePositionNationalitySquad StatusValue
Soane Tonga'uiaLH
Tonga
Key Player

Rodrigo Roncero
LHArg
First Team
Wyatt CrockettLHNZFirst Team
Owen FranksTH/LHNZInvaluableNot For Sale
Matt StevensTH/LHEngFirst TeamINJ
Bismarck Du PlessisHKSAInvaluableNot For Sale
Pieter DixonHKZimbBack Up£10m
Lionel NalletLKFranceKey Player
Patricio AlbaceteLKArgentinaKey Player
Romain Millo-Chluski LKFranceFirst Team
Julien PierreLKFranceRotation
Rocky ElsomBS/N8AustraliaInvaluable
Schalk BurgerOS/BS/N8SAInvaluableNot For Sale
Sergio ParisseN8ItalyInvaluableNot For Sale
Mirco Bergamasco
OS/BS
Italy
First Team

Wycliff PaluN8/BSAustraliaFirst Team
Thomas WaldromN8/BSNZRotation£18m
Matt ToddOS/BSNZRotation
Backs

NamePositionNationalitySquad StatusValue
Jimmy CowanSHNZKey Player
Richard WigglesworthSHEnglandFirst Team£14m
Nick EvansFHNZInvaluableNot For Sale
Butch JamesFH/ICSARotation
Ma'a NonuIC/OC/WGNZInvaluableNot For Sale
Jacque FourieOC/IC/WGSAInvaluableNot For Sale
Brad BarrittICEnglandRotation
Hosea GearWGNZInvaluableNot For Sale
Drew Mitchell
WG/FB
Aus
Invaluable
Not For Sale
Isaia ToeavaFB/WG/OCNZKey Player
Cedric HeymansWG/FBFranceFirst Team
Ben SmithFB/WGNZFirst Team






INJURIES
Ma'a Nonu HEALED
Rocky Elsom HEALED
Matt Stevens

FINANCES
Budget: £5m


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:46 am

You made your mind up?!?!?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:52 am

You're like my missus man!!! lol

Need to know soon as I can't change my team and it gets on my nerves!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:02 am

I think I'll just leave it mate, dragging on a bit. I like to get deals done and dusted thumbsup

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:09 am

I just like to get in and do a deal, when it starts getting dragged out I get bored.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:20 am

I know man....2 offers anyway if you want to make some kind of decision

Beast + Nalaga

Bekker + Maitland

or

Beast + Nalaga + Messem + Servat

Bekker + Maitland + Palu + BdP

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Post by Fluxy Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:58 am

Swap the £10m for Hape? And deal OK

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Post by Fluxy Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:33 pm

I'd have Easter. And you're offer has ten mil mate. Swap that for Hape is what I meant

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Post by Fluxy Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:41 pm

Yupp

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Post by GloucesterBear Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:10 pm

£15m + Maitland = Guildford

Money or no money I want Maitland and Guildford on each wing, not Clerc with Maitland.
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Post by GloucesterBear Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:41 pm

I have McCalman would of played McCalman at 6 and then Johnson at 8, but of course Johnson is cropped.
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Post by GloucesterBear Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:48 pm

Burger & Bekker & Maitland
4
Warburton & Boric & Guildford

?
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Post by GloucesterBear Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:51 pm

Wicked didn't notice well done.

Now onto your winger but you will have to look elsewhere, Guildford won't be coming your way unless one of your big players is involved doubt you want to do that.
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Post by GloucesterBear Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:56 pm

You heal Warburton I need the money Bathite, because im bottom you have a strong enough team which can be improved via domestic transfers. I need to buy and keep my money.
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Post by pullthestrings Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:00 pm

Give me a decent offer for Domingo and your side will be set - no weaknesses anymore. Could include Sivi for Maitland also if I get another gain.

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Post by GloucesterBear Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:00 pm

Well I will work out it somehow.

Probably won't even look to buy a winger, I need props and a 12 so will get one of them with the money I have.
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Post by Driver Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:11 pm

Franks + Haskell

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Guthro + Elsom

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Post by pullthestrings Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:33 pm

I'd consider:

Roko + Mermoz + £5 mil
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Maitland + Nonu

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Post by GloucesterBear Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:37 pm

Sorry but that's good offer for you Bathite.

Mermoz is the best centre in Europe.
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Post by pullthestrings Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:45 pm

OK,

Sivi + Mermoz
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Nonu + Maitland

enq.

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Post by pullthestrings Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:27 am

Did you want to do a Nonu/Mermoz deal?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:40 pm

Beast + Cencus Johnstone for Franks

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:08 pm

Kubs is no improvement in what I have....Medard needs Gear

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:22 pm

You are totally obsessed with these top 10's lol

CJ can hold his own, suffers due to playing for a minor nation but he's a good prop playing for the best side in the NH.

Didn't see Crockett in many top 10's but he's still a good prop

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Post by Fluxy Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:26 pm

McCaw + Williams + Afoa + Easter + Jenkins
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Burger + Naller/Alba + Franks + Parisse + Steen

Enq

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:28 pm

Crockett is a long way short of ant top 5, needs to prove it on the Int stage as the last time he played a decent scrum Castro made him cry.

Front row is front row, as long as you can set a platform I'd have Carter in any team and I'm happy with the deal.

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Post by Fluxy Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:30 pm

Williams and Jenkins under the others? Contraversial.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:34 pm

I love pack dominance but Servat is the scrummaging master and CJ is great prop. Can't turn down Carter, boy's the greatest 10 to walk the earth.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:38 pm

WC wins are overated, fantastic player, has it all.

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Post by Fluxy Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:23 pm

Any players of mine you'd be interested in?

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Post by Fluxy Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:03 pm

Franks, Nallet, Toeava and or any other big names.
An maybe Steen

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:59 am

Bekker + Kubriashvili

Tonga'uia + Chulski

Enq

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:42 pm

^^?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:49 pm

Could do you Poux on top for either Crockett or Steenkamp? Poux plays both LH and TH thumbsup

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:54 pm

In fact make that Matt Stevens for Saunders, forgot I had him!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:11 pm

Bekker + Kubriashvili + Stevens

Tonga'uia + Chulski + Saunders

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:05 pm

You happy with that then? Gives you you're TH cover and improvement at LH (personally rate Tiny best LH in the world). If so stick on confirms thumbsup

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Post by Driver Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:54 pm

My team for this week mate , not sure i'll be on much for next few weeks with new Job starting monday.

1.Ben Franks
2.Schalk Brits
3.Nicolas Mas
4.Richie Grey
5.James Gaskell
6.James Haskell
7.David Pocock
8.Keegan Daniel

9.Ben Youngs
10.Franscois Trinh-Duc
11.Peter Hynes
12.Matt Giteau
13.Adam Ashley-Cooper
14.Chris Ashton
15.Ben Foden

16.Martin Rodrigez
17.Olly Barkley
18.Mark Mcmillen
19.Ryan Kankowski
20.Simon Taylor
21.Dave Wilson
22.Richard Hibberd
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Post by GloucesterBear Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:00 am

Not keen on losing Guildford for Heymans.
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Post by GloucesterBear Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:04 pm

Seems strange that you wouldn't want the toulouse and french back three and a top top prop

Prefer Guildford, combo or no combo still prefer Guildford to Heymans or whoever, need a sutible replacement not keen on Cedric.

Could you do anything for Tonga'uhia?

Tonga'uhia & Maitland
4
Ayerza & Clerc

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Post by GloucesterBear Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:47 pm

Tonga'uhia & Barritt & Maitland
4
Ayerza & Davies & Clerc

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Post by pullthestrings Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:17 am

There will be, for sure. I don't know why you need to worry - playoffs are for the top four! Wink

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Post by pullthestrings Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:28 am

You're right about the partnership but still rate Cowan higher. I don't really like Care - his 'crabbing' is too damaging to the back line.

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Post by pullthestrings Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:21 am

Have I got Pape/Pierre for week 18?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:22 pm

Jaque Fourie + Albacete or Nallet

for

Robbie Freaun + Mike Blair and Ali Williams

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:30 pm

You wouldn't start Ali Williams ahead of either Pierre or Millo Chuski?? I'd have Williams ahead of your locks as its the only area your even slightly weak at the moment.

Bowe could go but it would need to involve Fourie. JOC isn't for sale.

Let me have a look at who is availible it terms of wingers in the foreigns before I get back to you with another offer

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:31 pm

Fourie and Toeava

for

Fruean and Bowe


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Post by GloucesterBear Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:54 pm

Elsom + Heymans
4
Warburton + Guildford

Who would I play at 7 Whistle decent though

Would be interested in Nallet or Albacete 4 Rossouw or Fourie 4 Marty plus Heymans 4 Guildford?
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Post by pullthestrings Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:56 pm

Alberts + ?
=
Elsom + ?

what would you be after?

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Post by GloucesterBear Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:06 pm

Elsom + Heymans
4
Vito + Guildford

Nope tbh no word of a lie apart from my little New Zealand team plan when I joined which was never going to happen laughing

I wanted Vito, Warburton and McCalman as my back row as they are the best talents in that position for their countrys. They will be stars in five years time, and even at the minute they are incredible players.

Nallet or Albacete or Fourie 4 Marty plus Heymans 4 Guildford you was willing to lose Elsom who on paper is along with Smith and maybe another is the best blindside in Rugby. So surely you can lose Nallet, Albacete or Fourie.
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Post by GloucesterBear Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:26 pm

Elsom + Heymans
4
Vito + Guildford

Alright do that then?

Wasn't keen on playing Johnson or Vito at 7 unless you do Burger 4 Warburton straight swap.
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