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Saracens
First topic message reminder :
SARACENS
"There's definately something special happening at Saracens"
2010/2011 Inaugural ERL Season
Challenge Cup Winners
4th Place in League
Playoff Semifinalist
Manager of the Month 6 times winner
INFORMATION
Old Site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A84388378
Head Coach: Bathite
Forwards Coach: Danny Grewcock
Backs Coach: Mike Catt
FIXTURES
Heineken: Finished 2nd in Group
1. Ospreys (A) 25-18 (L)
2. Clermont (H) 29-20 (W)
2nd in Group - Challenge Cup
Challenge Cup: Winner
Semi-Final: Leinster (N) 30-31 (W)
Final: Stade Francais (N) 21-30 (W)
Knockout Cup: 1st Round Loss
1st Round. Highlanders (A) 25-22 (L)
League: 4th
Record: P22 W13 D3 L6
1. Leinster (A) 26-19 (L)
2. Northampton (H) 23-22 (W)
3. Ospreys (A) 32-19 (L)
4. Toulouse (A) 30-16 (L)
5. Highlanders (H) 22-24 (L) LBP
6. Stade (A) 22-22 (D)
7. Toulon (H) 28-17 (W)
8. Bath (A) 28-26 (W)
9. Biarritz (H) 31-23 (W) WBP
10. Clermont (A) 19-31 (W) WBP
11. Leicester (H) 27-20 (W)
12. Leinster (H) 30-22 (W) WBP
13. Northampton (A) 33-20 (W) WBP
14. Ospreys (H) 29-29 (D)
15. Toulouse (H) 25-28 (L) LBP
16. Highlanders (A) 27-25 (L) LBP
17. Stade (H) 31-22 (W) WBP
18. Toulon (A) 19-33 (W) WBP
19. Bath (H) 32-22 (W) WBP
20. Biarritz (A) 21-27 (W)
21. Clermont (H) 20-0 (W)
22. Leicester (A) 23-23 (D)
MATCHDAY
FIRST TEAM SQUAD
Hookers: 2
Props: 5
Lock: 4
Back Row: 7
Half Backs: 4
Centres: 3
Back Three: 5
Squad Size: 29 (29 Available)
Forwards
Backs
INJURIES
Ma'a Nonu HEALED
Rocky Elsom HEALED
Matt Stevens
FINANCES
Budget: £5m
SARACENS
"There's definately something special happening at Saracens"
2010/2011 Inaugural ERL Season
Challenge Cup Winners
4th Place in League
Playoff Semifinalist
Manager of the Month 6 times winner
INFORMATION
Old Site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A84388378
Head Coach: Bathite
Forwards Coach: Danny Grewcock
Backs Coach: Mike Catt
FIXTURES
Heineken: Finished 2nd in Group
1. Ospreys (A) 25-18 (L)
2. Clermont (H) 29-20 (W)
2nd in Group - Challenge Cup
Challenge Cup: Winner
Semi-Final: Leinster (N) 30-31 (W)
Final: Stade Francais (N) 21-30 (W)
Knockout Cup: 1st Round Loss
1st Round. Highlanders (A) 25-22 (L)
League: 4th
Record: P22 W13 D3 L6
1. Leinster (A) 26-19 (L)
2. Northampton (H) 23-22 (W)
3. Ospreys (A) 32-19 (L)
4. Toulouse (A) 30-16 (L)
5. Highlanders (H) 22-24 (L) LBP
6. Stade (A) 22-22 (D)
7. Toulon (H) 28-17 (W)
8. Bath (A) 28-26 (W)
9. Biarritz (H) 31-23 (W) WBP
10. Clermont (A) 19-31 (W) WBP
11. Leicester (H) 27-20 (W)
12. Leinster (H) 30-22 (W) WBP
13. Northampton (A) 33-20 (W) WBP
14. Ospreys (H) 29-29 (D)
15. Toulouse (H) 25-28 (L) LBP
16. Highlanders (A) 27-25 (L) LBP
17. Stade (H) 31-22 (W) WBP
18. Toulon (A) 19-33 (W) WBP
19. Bath (H) 32-22 (W) WBP
20. Biarritz (A) 21-27 (W)
21. Clermont (H) 20-0 (W)
22. Leicester (A) 23-23 (D)
MATCHDAY
Position | Strongest Squad |
1 | S.Tonga'uia |
2 | B.Du Plessis |
3 | O.Franks |
4 | L.Nallet |
5 | P.Albacete |
6 | R.Elsom |
7 | S.Burger |
8 | S.Parisse |
9 | J.Cowan |
10 | N.Evans |
11 | H.Gear |
12 | M.Nonu |
13 | J.Fourie |
14 | D.Mitchell |
15 | I.Toeava |
16 | R.Roncero |
17 | P.Dixon |
18 | R.M-Chluski |
19 | M.Bergamasco |
20 | R.Wigglesworth |
21 | B.James |
22 | C.Heymans |
FIRST TEAM SQUAD
Hookers: 2
Props: 5
Lock: 4
Back Row: 7
Half Backs: 4
Centres: 3
Back Three: 5
Squad Size: 29 (29 Available)
Forwards
Name | Position | Nationality | Squad Status | Value |
Soane Tonga'uia | LH | Tonga | Key Player | |
Rodrigo Roncero | LH | Arg | First Team | |
Wyatt Crockett | LH | NZ | First Team | |
Owen Franks | TH/LH | NZ | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Matt Stevens | TH/LH | Eng | First Team | INJ |
Bismarck Du Plessis | HK | SA | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Pieter Dixon | HK | Zimb | Back Up | £10m |
Lionel Nallet | LK | France | Key Player | |
Patricio Albacete | LK | Argentina | Key Player | |
Romain Millo-Chluski | LK | France | First Team | |
Julien Pierre | LK | France | Rotation | |
Rocky Elsom | BS/N8 | Australia | Invaluable | |
Schalk Burger | OS/BS/N8 | SA | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Sergio Parisse | N8 | Italy | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Mirco Bergamasco | OS/BS | Italy | First Team | |
Wycliff Palu | N8/BS | Australia | First Team | |
Thomas Waldrom | N8/BS | NZ | Rotation | £18m |
Matt Todd | OS/BS | NZ | Rotation |
Name | Position | Nationality | Squad Status | Value |
Jimmy Cowan | SH | NZ | Key Player | |
Richard Wigglesworth | SH | England | First Team | £14m |
Nick Evans | FH | NZ | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Butch James | FH/IC | SA | Rotation | |
Ma'a Nonu | IC/OC/WG | NZ | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Jacque Fourie | OC/IC/WG | SA | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Brad Barritt | IC | England | Rotation | |
Hosea Gear | WG | NZ | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Drew Mitchell | WG/FB | Aus | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Isaia Toeava | FB/WG/OC | NZ | Key Player | |
Cedric Heymans | WG/FB | France | First Team | |
Ben Smith | FB/WG | NZ | First Team | |
INJURIES
Ma'a Nonu HEALED
Rocky Elsom HEALED
Matt Stevens
FINANCES
Budget: £5m
Last edited by Bathite on Thu 08 Sep 2011, 11:16 pm; edited 143 times in total
Bathite- Posts : 8468
Join date : 2011-05-01
Re: Saracens
Easter & Habana & Maitland & Alba
4
Parisse & Davies & Guildford & Boric
Think we might of got there or could do.
Easter & Gear
4
Parisse & Guildford
Albacete & Maitland
4
Boric & Clerc
Any of them, or that could be a four way offer?
4
Parisse & Davies & Guildford & Boric
Think we might of got there or could do.
Easter & Gear
4
Parisse & Guildford
Albacete & Maitland
4
Boric & Clerc
Any of them, or that could be a four way offer?
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
Join date : 2011-05-20
Location : Podsmead, Gloucester
Re: Saracens
Easter & Gear
4
Parisse & Guildford
Sorry got to wait for Fluxy only fair, will confirm if nothing goes to plan with him.
This is hurting my head whether to try and go for Albacete or Whitelock and who to sell Parisse for McCalman or Easter.
4
Parisse & Guildford
Sorry got to wait for Fluxy only fair, will confirm if nothing goes to plan with him.
This is hurting my head whether to try and go for Albacete or Whitelock and who to sell Parisse for McCalman or Easter.
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
Join date : 2011-05-20
Location : Podsmead, Gloucester
Re: Saracens
Just one thing if we do that or don't do it.
Would a deal for Albacete still be possible involving Boric.
You could give me Maitland or Habana for Clerc.
So basically a deal I proposed in an above post.
Albacete & Maitland/Habana
4
Boric & Clerc
You gain in Clerc, Clerc is highly rated on here and better than Maitland and Habana plus now Maitland isn't in your starting 15 could it possible to link him up with Guildford at last?
Would a deal for Albacete still be possible involving Boric.
You could give me Maitland or Habana for Clerc.
So basically a deal I proposed in an above post.
Albacete & Maitland/Habana
4
Boric & Clerc
You gain in Clerc, Clerc is highly rated on here and better than Maitland and Habana plus now Maitland isn't in your starting 15 could it possible to link him up with Guildford at last?
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
Join date : 2011-05-20
Location : Podsmead, Gloucester
Re: Saracens
Think Fluxy just had the better offer.
Prefer McCalman to Easter just a quality talent, Whitelock is a beast another quality youngster, Marty gives me something at centre as now Mapasua has left Irish ratings will slowly go down. Yesterday when Driver asked around everyone identified Hore as a weakness, Polotau-Nau is just incredible around a Rugby field as was by far one of the most impressive hookers in Super Rugby this season.
Just a shame I may miss out on Gear, can you find something else for him or not. If not still interested in Maitland and Habana.
Gear I would pay 20 million for him plus Clerc.
Prefer McCalman to Easter just a quality talent, Whitelock is a beast another quality youngster, Marty gives me something at centre as now Mapasua has left Irish ratings will slowly go down. Yesterday when Driver asked around everyone identified Hore as a weakness, Polotau-Nau is just incredible around a Rugby field as was by far one of the most impressive hookers in Super Rugby this season.
Just a shame I may miss out on Gear, can you find something else for him or not. If not still interested in Maitland and Habana.
Gear I would pay 20 million for him plus Clerc.
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
Join date : 2011-05-20
Location : Podsmead, Gloucester
Re: Saracens
Sorry mate everything explained above.
Gear
4
Clerc & 20/25 million
Or something for Maitland or Habana.
please consider in forgiving me
Gear
4
Clerc & 20/25 million
Or something for Maitland or Habana.
please consider in forgiving me
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
Join date : 2011-05-20
Location : Podsmead, Gloucester
Re: Saracens
My back three is good.
My back row all are good players but need to get a biggish name in again now.
Need to get rid of Roberts and improve my front row.
Happy with Kelleher and Slade.
My back row all are good players but need to get a biggish name in again now.
Need to get rid of Roberts and improve my front row.
Happy with Kelleher and Slade.
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
Join date : 2011-05-20
Location : Podsmead, Gloucester
Re: Saracens
Nallet & Maitland & Gear & Toeava
4
Whitelock & Clerc & Guildford & Poitrenaud
Whitelock > Nallet
Clerc > Maitland
Gear > Guildford
Toeava = Poitrenaud(You don't agree but it is really hard to seperate)
?
4
Whitelock & Clerc & Guildford & Poitrenaud
Whitelock > Nallet
Clerc > Maitland
Gear > Guildford
Toeava = Poitrenaud(You don't agree but it is really hard to seperate)
?
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
Join date : 2011-05-20
Location : Podsmead, Gloucester
Re: Saracens
Nallet & Maitland & Nonu & Bekker
4
Whitelock & Clerc & Roberts & Boric
?
4
Whitelock & Clerc & Roberts & Boric
?
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
Join date : 2011-05-20
Location : Podsmead, Gloucester
Re: Saracens
Nallet & Maitland & Burger & Bekker
4
Whitelock & Clerc & Warburton & Boric
Two gains each there and it's not Roberts, Warburton has been excellent against some of the best in the World.
4
Whitelock & Clerc & Warburton & Boric
Two gains each there and it's not Roberts, Warburton has been excellent against some of the best in the World.
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
Join date : 2011-05-20
Location : Podsmead, Gloucester
Re: Saracens
You said one player that will improve your line up is Whitelock.
He was higher rated than Nallet.
He was higher rated than Nallet.
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
Join date : 2011-05-20
Location : Podsmead, Gloucester
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- Posts : 12117
Join date : 2011-01-28
Age : 33
Location : Isle of Wight
Re: Saracens
Palu + Elsom + Bekker + Steenkamp + BdP
=
Spies + Alberts + Crane + Moore + Domingo
Enq.
=
Spies + Alberts + Crane + Moore + Domingo
Enq.
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
Join date : 2011-01-27
Age : 36
Location : Reading
Re: Saracens
You're jumping the gun a bit aren't you?!
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
Join date : 2011-01-27
Age : 36
Location : Reading
Re: Saracens
OK mate go for it. I'm also feeling generous so may bang out some budget bonuses.
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Age : 36
Location : Reading
Re: Saracens
Just seen, cheers. I'll leave as is and update the page next week so as not to cause confusion.
Alberts = Burger?
Alberts = Burger?
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Age : 36
Location : Reading
Re: Saracens
A ball carrying 6/8 at 7 is better than a crocked 7, surely?!
What about:
Domingo + Alberts
4
Steenkemp + Schalk + £5 mil
enq.
What about:
Domingo + Alberts
4
Steenkemp + Schalk + £5 mil
enq.
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Age : 36
Location : Reading
Re: Saracens
Why do you love Rocky.. he hasn't been firing since Leinster and I don't think he's played much recently.
Elsom + Steenkamp + Bekker
=
Alberts + Domingo + £10 mil?
Elsom + Steenkamp + Bekker
=
Alberts + Domingo + £10 mil?
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Age : 36
Location : Reading
Re: Saracens
The best name in rugby has got to be Chilliboy Rallepelle!
Elsom + Steenkamp + Pape
=
Alberts + Domingo + £10 mil?
I would consider that.
Elsom + Steenkamp + Pape
=
Alberts + Domingo + £10 mil?
I would consider that.
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Age : 36
Location : Reading
Re: Saracens
Any thoughts before teamsheets are in?
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Location : Reading
Re: Saracens
Elsom + Steenkamp + Pape
=
Alberts + Domingo + Bonnaire?
Would you prefer?
=
Alberts + Domingo + Bonnaire?
Would you prefer?
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Age : 36
Location : Reading
Re: Saracens
2 4 1
Gear & Elsom
4
Louw
?
Could do with someone like Todd but not willing to sell Guildford.
Gear & Elsom
4
Louw
?
Could do with someone like Todd but not willing to sell Guildford.
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
Join date : 2011-05-20
Location : Podsmead, Gloucester
Re: Saracens
Todd & Maitland/Habana
4
Clerc
?
4
Clerc
?
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
Join date : 2011-05-20
Location : Podsmead, Gloucester
Re: Saracens
Nothing wrong with Clerc makes sense that I want to try and link Guildford and Maitland up.
Your not even starting Maitland atm and Todd either and you did say Todd was possible.
Your not even starting Maitland atm and Todd either and you did say Todd was possible.
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
Join date : 2011-05-20
Location : Podsmead, Gloucester
Re: Saracens
Fair offer but I rate both props a fair bit higher than Bekker, how about:
Beast + Ranger/Nalaga
Bekker + Gear
Beast + Ranger/Nalaga
Bekker + Gear
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
Join date : 2011-04-27
Re: Saracens
I'd want Gear, Habana has been garbage for a while now. No probs
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
Join date : 2011-04-27
Re: Saracens
Habana only better than Ranger in name, Ranger is a much better player without doubt. Don't see Donnally as a weakness, Bekker is a good player but hardly shines at International level.
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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Re: Saracens
Ranger is dynamite and would have 30 caps if South African, just so happens NZ have 5/6 world class wingers. Donnally is a top operator who'd I'd rate similar to Bekker.
If Ranger is a weakness for me, Habana would not solve as he's not as good as Ranger.
If Ranger is a weakness for me, Habana would not solve as he's not as good as Ranger.
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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Re: Saracens
Opinions change, Ranger has been outstanding this season and much better than Habana. Bekker is unconvincing at Int level so no real upgrade on Donnolly.
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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Re: Saracens
No point going on....lol, either way if I was to get Bekker for Beast I'd need an upgrade somewhere.
Bekker + ?
Beast + ?
Bekker + ?
Beast + ?
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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Re: Saracens
No mate rate Smith over Fourie and would also give you the NZ midfield, not overly after a loan. No probs
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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Re: Saracens
How about a simple:
Beast + Chulski
Steenkamp + Bekker
Beast + Chulski
Steenkamp + Bekker
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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Re: Saracens
What to get Gear involved then? Could include Messem etc
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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Re: Saracens
11. Gear
14. Maitland
15. Smith
Not a huge fan of Toeava, good player but Smith would complement Gear and Maitland's power and pace.
14. Maitland
15. Smith
Not a huge fan of Toeava, good player but Smith would complement Gear and Maitland's power and pace.
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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Re: Saracens
I'd say Messem was ahead of Easter myself......
Give me some options for Bekker + Gear
Give me some options for Bekker + Gear
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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Re: Saracens
God knows looking at injuries.
Could do with a prop, flanker and inside centre.
Coenie Oosthuizen?
Raphael Lakafia?
Main names inside my head, inside centre your not going to get one good in the foreigns Wynand Olivier, Riki Flutey some names but don't think they are that rated on here.
Could do with a prop, flanker and inside centre.
Coenie Oosthuizen?
Raphael Lakafia?
Main names inside my head, inside centre your not going to get one good in the foreigns Wynand Olivier, Riki Flutey some names but don't think they are that rated on here.
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
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Location : Podsmead, Gloucester
Re: Saracens
Go for Lakafia.
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
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Re: Saracens
Ive got Jack, AWJ, Ojo, Delon and Basson in reserve. so would rather hang on to my captain
LukeLovesLuka- Posts : 5865
Join date : 2011-04-19
Age : 40
Location : London
Re: Saracens
I'd do:
Albacete + Habana + Easter + Maitland
4
Marchois + Lobbe + Basson
If not, i'll stick with what ive got
Albacete + Habana + Easter + Maitland
4
Marchois + Lobbe + Basson
If not, i'll stick with what ive got
LukeLovesLuka- Posts : 5865
Join date : 2011-04-19
Age : 40
Location : London
Re: Saracens
Lakafia + Maitland
4
Guildford + Tuilagi
Oh I said I want Guildford and Maitland to link up with each other, Clerc is good it does make sense wanting Guildford on one wing and Maitland on the other.
Not losing Guildford for Maitland.
4
Guildford + Tuilagi
Oh I said I want Guildford and Maitland to link up with each other, Clerc is good it does make sense wanting Guildford on one wing and Maitland on the other.
Not losing Guildford for Maitland.
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
Join date : 2011-05-20
Location : Podsmead, Gloucester
Re: Saracens
Bekker + Habana + Easter + Maitland
4
Marchois + Lobbe + Basson
I will deal on this if you want. Let me know asap.
4
Marchois + Lobbe + Basson
I will deal on this if you want. Let me know asap.
LukeLovesLuka- Posts : 5865
Join date : 2011-04-19
Age : 40
Location : London
Re: Saracens
I've got McAlister mate. If you want Domingo have a look back at my previous offers. He's the best in the business, not letting him go cheap.
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Age : 36
Location : Reading
Re: Saracens
No thanks. Needs to be what we agreed or nothing really.
LukeLovesLuka- Posts : 5865
Join date : 2011-04-19
Age : 40
Location : London
Re: Saracens
Bekker + Habana + Easter + Maitland
4
Marchois + Lobbe + Basson
4
Marchois + Lobbe + Basson
LukeLovesLuka- Posts : 5865
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Age : 40
Location : London
Re: Saracens
I could maybe do Messam? Starting 8 for ABs this weekend too ;£
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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Re: Saracens
I imagine he's quite a bit above Easter after the season he's had. I'd need something back in that one...Bdp/Servat? See them very close as the best 2 hookers about. If not can just stick with original offer.
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