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Post by Bathite Wed 18 May 2011, 9:16 pm

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SARACENS

"There's definately something special happening at Saracens"


2010/2011 Inaugural ERL Season
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4th Place in League
Playoff Semifinalist
Manager of the Month 6 times winner Saracens - Page 9 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 9 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 9 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 9 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 9 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 9 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=


INFORMATION
Old Site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A84388378
Head Coach: Bathite
Forwards Coach: Danny Grewcock
Backs Coach: Mike Catt

FIXTURES

Heineken: Finished 2nd in Group
1. Ospreys (A) 25-18 (L)
2. Clermont (H) 29-20 (W)
2nd in Group - Challenge Cup

Challenge Cup: Winner
Semi-Final: Leinster (N) 30-31 (W)
Final: Stade Francais (N) 21-30 (W)

Knockout Cup: 1st Round Loss
1st Round. Highlanders (A) 25-22 (L)

League: 4th
Record: P22 W13 D3 L6
1. Leinster (A) 26-19 (L)
2. Northampton (H) 23-22 (W)
3. Ospreys (A) 32-19 (L)
4. Toulouse (A) 30-16 (L)
5. Highlanders (H) 22-24 (L) LBP
6. Stade (A) 22-22 (D)
7. Toulon (H) 28-17 (W)
8. Bath (A) 28-26 (W)
9. Biarritz (H) 31-23 (W) WBP
10. Clermont (A) 19-31 (W) WBP
11. Leicester (H) 27-20 (W)
12. Leinster (H) 30-22 (W) WBP
13. Northampton (A) 33-20 (W) WBP
14. Ospreys (H) 29-29 (D)
15. Toulouse (H) 25-28 (L) LBP
16. Highlanders (A) 27-25 (L) LBP
17. Stade (H) 31-22 (W) WBP
18. Toulon (A) 19-33 (W) WBP
19. Bath (H) 32-22 (W) WBP
20. Biarritz (A) 21-27 (W)
21. Clermont (H) 20-0 (W)
22. Leicester (A) 23-23 (D)



MATCHDAY


PositionStrongest Squad
1S.Tonga'uia
2B.Du Plessis
3O.Franks
4L.Nallet
5P.Albacete
6R.Elsom
7S.Burger
8S.Parisse
9J.Cowan
10N.Evans
11H.Gear
12M.Nonu
13J.Fourie
14D.Mitchell
15I.Toeava
16R.Roncero
17P.Dixon
18R.M-Chluski
19M.Bergamasco
20R.Wigglesworth
21B.James
22C.Heymans

FIRST TEAM SQUAD

Hookers: 2
Props: 5
Lock: 4
Back Row: 7
Half Backs: 4
Centres: 3
Back Three: 5
Squad Size: 29 (29 Available)

Forwards
NamePositionNationalitySquad StatusValue
Soane Tonga'uiaLH
Tonga
Key Player

Rodrigo Roncero
LHArg
First Team
Wyatt CrockettLHNZFirst Team
Owen FranksTH/LHNZInvaluableNot For Sale
Matt StevensTH/LHEngFirst TeamINJ
Bismarck Du PlessisHKSAInvaluableNot For Sale
Pieter DixonHKZimbBack Up£10m
Lionel NalletLKFranceKey Player
Patricio AlbaceteLKArgentinaKey Player
Romain Millo-Chluski LKFranceFirst Team
Julien PierreLKFranceRotation
Rocky ElsomBS/N8AustraliaInvaluable
Schalk BurgerOS/BS/N8SAInvaluableNot For Sale
Sergio ParisseN8ItalyInvaluableNot For Sale
Mirco Bergamasco
OS/BS
Italy
First Team

Wycliff PaluN8/BSAustraliaFirst Team
Thomas WaldromN8/BSNZRotation£18m
Matt ToddOS/BSNZRotation
Backs

NamePositionNationalitySquad StatusValue
Jimmy CowanSHNZKey Player
Richard WigglesworthSHEnglandFirst Team£14m
Nick EvansFHNZInvaluableNot For Sale
Butch JamesFH/ICSARotation
Ma'a NonuIC/OC/WGNZInvaluableNot For Sale
Jacque FourieOC/IC/WGSAInvaluableNot For Sale
Brad BarrittICEnglandRotation
Hosea GearWGNZInvaluableNot For Sale
Drew Mitchell
WG/FB
Aus
Invaluable
Not For Sale
Isaia ToeavaFB/WG/OCNZKey Player
Cedric HeymansWG/FBFranceFirst Team
Ben SmithFB/WGNZFirst Team






INJURIES
Ma'a Nonu HEALED
Rocky Elsom HEALED
Matt Stevens

FINANCES
Budget: £5m


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Post by GloucesterBear Fri 15 Jul 2011, 2:14 pm

Easter & Habana & Maitland & Alba
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Parisse & Davies & Guildford & Boric

Think we might of got there or could do.

Easter & Gear
4
Parisse & Guildford

Albacete & Maitland
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Boric & Clerc

Any of them, or that could be a four way offer?
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Post by GloucesterBear Fri 15 Jul 2011, 2:19 pm

Easter & Gear
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Parisse & Guildford

Sorry got to wait for Fluxy only fair, will confirm if nothing goes to plan with him.

This is hurting my head whether to try and go for Albacete or Whitelock and who to sell Parisse for McCalman or Easter.
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Post by GloucesterBear Fri 15 Jul 2011, 2:21 pm

Just one thing if we do that or don't do it.

Would a deal for Albacete still be possible involving Boric.

You could give me Maitland or Habana for Clerc.

So basically a deal I proposed in an above post.

Albacete & Maitland/Habana
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Boric & Clerc

You gain in Clerc, Clerc is highly rated on here and better than Maitland and Habana plus now Maitland isn't in your starting 15 could it possible to link him up with Guildford at last?
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Post by GloucesterBear Fri 15 Jul 2011, 2:38 pm

Think Fluxy just had the better offer.

Prefer McCalman to Easter just a quality talent, Whitelock is a beast another quality youngster, Marty gives me something at centre as now Mapasua has left Irish ratings will slowly go down. Yesterday when Driver asked around everyone identified Hore as a weakness, Polotau-Nau is just incredible around a Rugby field as was by far one of the most impressive hookers in Super Rugby this season.

Just a shame I may miss out on Gear, can you find something else for him or not. If not still interested in Maitland and Habana.

Gear I would pay 20 million for him plus Clerc.
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Post by GloucesterBear Fri 15 Jul 2011, 2:42 pm

Sorry mate everything explained above.

Gear
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Clerc & 20/25 million

Or something for Maitland or Habana.

thumbsup please consider in forgiving me Hug Crying or Very sad
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Post by GloucesterBear Fri 15 Jul 2011, 3:23 pm

My back three is good.

My back row all are good players but need to get a biggish name in again now.

Need to get rid of Roberts and improve my front row.

Happy with Kelleher and Slade.
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Post by GloucesterBear Fri 15 Jul 2011, 11:04 pm

Nallet & Maitland & Gear & Toeava
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Whitelock & Clerc & Guildford & Poitrenaud

Whitelock > Nallet
Clerc > Maitland
Gear > Guildford
Toeava = Poitrenaud(You don't agree but it is really hard to seperate)

?
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Post by GloucesterBear Sat 16 Jul 2011, 11:48 am

Nallet & Maitland & Nonu & Bekker
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Whitelock & Clerc & Roberts & Boric

?
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Post by GloucesterBear Sat 16 Jul 2011, 3:10 pm

Nallet & Maitland & Burger & Bekker
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Whitelock & Clerc & Warburton & Boric

Two gains each there and it's not Roberts, Warburton has been excellent against some of the best in the World.

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Post by GloucesterBear Sat 16 Jul 2011, 4:04 pm

You said one player that will improve your line up is Whitelock.

He was higher rated than Nallet.
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Post by Fluxy Sun 17 Jul 2011, 6:49 pm

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Post by pullthestrings Tue 19 Jul 2011, 8:54 am

Palu + Elsom + Bekker + Steenkamp + BdP
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Spies + Alberts + Crane + Moore + Domingo

Enq.

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Post by pullthestrings Tue 19 Jul 2011, 9:48 am

You're jumping the gun a bit aren't you?!

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Post by pullthestrings Tue 19 Jul 2011, 10:25 am

OK mate go for it. I'm also feeling generous so may bang out some budget bonuses. Whistle

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Post by pullthestrings Tue 19 Jul 2011, 10:55 am

Just seen, cheers. I'll leave as is and update the page next week so as not to cause confusion.

Alberts = Burger?

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Post by pullthestrings Tue 19 Jul 2011, 11:03 am

A ball carrying 6/8 at 7 is better than a crocked 7, surely?!

What about:

Domingo + Alberts
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Steenkemp + Schalk + £5 mil

enq.

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Post by pullthestrings Tue 19 Jul 2011, 11:12 am

Why do you love Rocky.. he hasn't been firing since Leinster and I don't think he's played much recently.

Elsom + Steenkamp + Bekker
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Alberts + Domingo + £10 mil?

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Post by pullthestrings Tue 19 Jul 2011, 11:21 am

The best name in rugby has got to be Chilliboy Rallepelle!

Elsom + Steenkamp + Pape
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Alberts + Domingo + £10 mil?

I would consider that.

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Post by pullthestrings Tue 19 Jul 2011, 1:49 pm

Any thoughts before teamsheets are in?

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Post by pullthestrings Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:21 am

Elsom + Steenkamp + Pape
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Alberts + Domingo + Bonnaire?

Would you prefer?

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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:48 am

2 4 1

Gear & Elsom
4
Louw

? Laugh

Could do with someone like Todd but not willing to sell Guildford.
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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:49 am

Todd & Maitland/Habana
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Clerc

?
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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:56 am

Nothing wrong with Clerc makes sense that I want to try and link Guildford and Maitland up.

Your not even starting Maitland atm and Todd either and you did say Todd was possible.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jul 2011, 12:10 am

Fair offer but I rate both props a fair bit higher than Bekker, how about:

Beast + Ranger/Nalaga

Bekker + Gear

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jul 2011, 10:01 am

I'd want Gear, Habana has been garbage for a while now. No probs

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jul 2011, 10:06 am

Habana only better than Ranger in name, Ranger is a much better player without doubt. Don't see Donnally as a weakness, Bekker is a good player but hardly shines at International level.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jul 2011, 10:22 am

Ranger is dynamite and would have 30 caps if South African, just so happens NZ have 5/6 world class wingers. Donnally is a top operator who'd I'd rate similar to Bekker.

If Ranger is a weakness for me, Habana would not solve as he's not as good as Ranger.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jul 2011, 10:44 am

Opinions change, Ranger has been outstanding this season and much better than Habana. Bekker is unconvincing at Int level so no real upgrade on Donnolly.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jul 2011, 10:53 am

No point going on....lol, either way if I was to get Bekker for Beast I'd need an upgrade somewhere.

Bekker + ?

Beast + ?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jul 2011, 11:18 am

No mate rate Smith over Fourie and would also give you the NZ midfield, not overly after a loan. No probs thumbsup

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jul 2011, 11:27 am

How about a simple:

Beast + Chulski

Steenkamp + Bekker

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jul 2011, 11:51 am

What to get Gear involved then? Could include Messem etc

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jul 2011, 11:56 am

11. Gear
14. Maitland
15. Smith

Not a huge fan of Toeava, good player but Smith would complement Gear and Maitland's power and pace.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jul 2011, 11:59 am

I'd say Messem was ahead of Easter myself......

Give me some options for Bekker + Gear

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Post by GloucesterBear Thu 21 Jul 2011, 1:18 pm

God knows looking at injuries.

Could do with a prop, flanker and inside centre.

Coenie Oosthuizen?
Raphael Lakafia?

Main names inside my head, inside centre your not going to get one good in the foreigns Wynand Olivier, Riki Flutey some names but don't think they are that rated on here.
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Post by GloucesterBear Thu 21 Jul 2011, 1:47 pm

Go for Lakafia.
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 21 Jul 2011, 1:49 pm

Ive got Jack, AWJ, Ojo, Delon and Basson in reserve. so would rather hang on to my captain OK

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 21 Jul 2011, 1:52 pm

I'd do:

Albacete + Habana + Easter + Maitland
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Marchois + Lobbe + Basson

If not, i'll stick with what ive got OK

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Post by GloucesterBear Thu 21 Jul 2011, 1:56 pm

Lakafia + Maitland

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Guildford + Tuilagi

Oh I said I want Guildford and Maitland to link up with each other, Clerc is good it does make sense wanting Guildford on one wing and Maitland on the other.

Not losing Guildford for Maitland.
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 21 Jul 2011, 1:59 pm

Bekker + Habana + Easter + Maitland
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Marchois + Lobbe + Basson

I will deal on this if you want. Let me know asap.

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Post by pullthestrings Thu 21 Jul 2011, 1:59 pm

I've got McAlister mate. If you want Domingo have a look back at my previous offers. He's the best in the business, not letting him go cheap.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 21 Jul 2011, 2:29 pm

Where are we?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jul 2011, 2:30 pm

Bekker + Maitland

Beast + Nalaga

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 21 Jul 2011, 3:32 pm

No thanks. Needs to be what we agreed or nothing really.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 21 Jul 2011, 3:36 pm

Bekker + Habana + Easter + Maitland
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Marchois + Lobbe + Basson

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jul 2011, 3:41 pm

^^ ?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jul 2011, 3:55 pm

I could maybe do Messam? Starting 8 for ABs this weekend too ;£

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jul 2011, 4:22 pm

I imagine he's quite a bit above Easter after the season he's had. I'd need something back in that one...Bdp/Servat? See them very close as the best 2 hookers about. If not can just stick with original offer.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Jul 2011, 6:09 pm

Where we at?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Jul 2011, 10:45 am

You made your mind up?!?!?

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