Copper Box Card

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I'm really looking forward to this, it'll be interesting if Fury gets caught clean to see how he reacts. Guys who don't as hard as Abel have hurt him so I want to see if he can keep his guard up for the duration.

We've also got press passes for this event as well, so a big thank you to Frank Warrens people for allowing us the access, Owen will again be attending and doing the write up.

Mailer wrote:Maybe as they had two major names taking a bit of a risk on the same bill they didnt fancy making the undercard too risky. Its fine having Buglioni and that other guy on cos they sell tickets, and Hughie Fury is much more than just Tysons cousin, but what was the point of that Skeete fight? and dont get me started on Steve Collins Jr...

For me the biggest risk on the night had more to do with Fury and Chisora's personality disorders/ training regimes than their opponents.

Wilder to be king!

4aceme11 wrote:Evening guys...I was at the copper box last night. It was farce from beginning to end.

I just wrote a whole description of what happened but this forum cut out & it never registered.

Been a long time since I was on a 606 forum!!! Back in the beeb days...some of you (truss,windy etc) may remember me

I remember you Mate......Unfortunately Windy has crossed over.....

Good to hear from you....Stick around.

Fury-Chisora 2 is a stadium fight don't you know.... Crikey.

Another dross card where practically every result is already known before the evening begins. What is the point in these?

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
I remember you Mate......Unfortunately Windy has crossed over.....

You make it sound like he has joined Eastside Truss

What are you talking about Truss??? I wrote a sugar coated article???

That's BS. You must be thinking of someone else. I didn't write whatever you're referring too.

I am only a fan in the sense that I don't hate the guy. I watch him fight because it's entertaining.

If you want to skip back a few months, please read the back and fourths that I had with Az when it came to Fury, you will see I'm hardly in the Fury Fanclub.

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:What are you talking about Truss??? I wrote a sugar coated article???

That's BS. You must be thinking of someone else. I didn't write whatever you're referring too.

I am only a fan in the sense that I don't hate the guy. I watch him fight because it's entertaining.

If you want to skip back a few months, please read the back and fourths that I had with Az when it came to Fury, you will see I'm hardly in the Fury Fanclub.

No grey area with you is there? It's all or nothing. What are you thoughts on Marmite?

As for Fury being "entertaining", again I'd question your definition of "entertainment". However given your definition of being a fan, I'm assuming entertainment for you is anything that doesn't involve being killed.

John Bloody Wayne wrote:Thought the Fury fight was a touch dodgy. Don't see any reason why the ref took so long to warn Abbel for the very slight use of the head other than to give Fury a chance to recover. Not on mate.

Eddie Chambers is a pretty good commentator. Can almost forgive him for the dreams.

Agree, was classic hometowning. Fury was in trouble and the ref bought him an extra 30-40 seconds of recovery time.

Add in the (hitherto unmentioned) low blow on the break, which he should certainly have had a point deducted for, and I can't help feel Fury was carried through a pointless match. Would note that Fury only really started having success after that low blow. Eddie is a decent commentator, and admitted the guy was known to be chinny, so maybe the low blow just sped up the inevitable.

Fury was so so poor. Jab was appalling, so vulnerable, terrible condition, fought dirty. Would like to see his head taken clean off. Haye would have toyed with him and then rendered him unconscious. Sadly I'm with some that I'm not 100% Chis could do it. If his conditioning is as good as this card (and Fury's equally bad) then maybe he's got a chance on the cards if he drops Fury a couple of times (more likely, I think, than actually stopping him).

You only need to look at cousin Hugie to see the difference of someone who can actually box a bit and doesn't have an attitude akin to Wee weeing all over the sport. Hughie's jab was much much sharper, snappier, more accurate and a more effective weapon.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Alright saying Haye obliterates him........But he said he would obliterate a guy of similar height and size..

and bottled it..

Can't believe you've the gall to even remotely compare Fury and Wlad

A little bit out of character for me , but I'll admit Fury is a bit of a guilty pleasure, I can't help being captivated and humoured when I see him interviewed. It's make a nice change from hearing the goody two shoes scripted answers a David Beckham would give.

He isn't the greatest fighter by all means, he has a big heart and for 25 he hasn't done bad for himself.

Cheers Rodders

TopHat24/7 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Alright saying Haye obliterates him........But he said he would obliterate a guy of similar height and size..

and bottled it..

Can't believe you've the gall to even remotely compare Fury and Wlad

It's like you've never encountered TRUSS before in your life. Of course he has the gall....what he lacks is the commonsense not to say such stupid things

Rodney wrote:A little bit out of character for me , but I'll admit Fury is a bit of a guilty pleasure, I can't help being captivated and humoured when I see him interviewed. It's make a nice change from hearing the goody two shoes scripted answers a David Beckham would give.

He isn't the greatest fighter by all means, he has a big heart and for 25 he hasn't done bad for himself.

Cheers Rodders

I'm putting you on my foe list now RODDERS

How long is that list now Dave ?

Cheers Rodders

 

Rodney wrote:How long is that list now Dave ?

Cheers Rodders

All I'll say is that I'm not on it.....yet!





Oh...and STEFFAN but that's only because I don't want to include him in anything....and the mere sight of his name makes me sick!

DAVE667 wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Alright saying Haye obliterates him........But he said he would obliterate a guy of similar height and size..

and bottled it..

Can't believe you've the gall to even remotely compare Fury and Wlad

It's like you've never encountered TRUSS before in your life. Of course he has the gall....what he lacks is the commonsense not to say such stupid things

Stop wumming..

Not marmite truss. That fight at the weekend was a warm up and some people seem to be actually offended by Fury's fight. He got caught a few times? So? It was without doubt the highlight of the card. I'm not talking about you when I mention people yapping.

I take Fury as be goes. When he is finally in a big fight il reserve judgement but this fight was a fight where Fury came back after getting mucked about for the "guts" (no pun intended) for almost a year being inactive. He finished well. I am just looking at the positives rather than jumping on the negatives.

He was rusty, let's see how he goes as he starts fighting more regularly again.

He's funny, he's a character and he is back to knocking people out. I don't see what the big deal is mate

DeeMck

He looked atrocious, the guy he was facing was nothing more than a journeyman and a particularly average one at that. Fury getting buzzed by him merely highlights his chin is pretty much the same as Prices... Who at least got knocked out by a genuine HW and wasn't being flattened by a cruiser weight who has never been a puncher.

Would fancy Wlad to wobble him around just with his jab before walking the giant oaf onto a big right hand that would result in him not beating a 1000000 count.

Heck. Fancy an in shape Chisora to stop him this time round

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Not marmite truss. That fight at the weekend was a warm up and some people seem to be actually offended by Fury's fight. He got caught a few times? So? It was without doubt the highlight of the card. I'm not talking about you when I mention people yapping.

I take Fury as be goes. When he is finally in a big fight il reserve judgement but this fight was a fight where Fury came back after getting mucked about for the "guts" (no pun intended) for almost a year being inactive. He finished well. I am just looking at the positives rather than jumping on the negatives.

He was rusty, let's see how he goes as he starts fighting more regularly again.

He's funny, he's a character and he is back to knocking people out. I don't see what the big deal is mate

He needs to move quickly.........The shadow of Joshua is looming bigger on the Brit scene.......He wants to forget Chisora...By the time he's fought him.. Joshua is probably 9- 0............

HBO will love Anthony Joshua.......(I imagine they will set up a unification series If need be !!)........Bodybuilders physique, handsome face and good speed and power......Fury, Price and Chisora have to try to move at world level now or they will just be footnotes..........

Joshua seems made for the pros......Just what we need...........I think he beats every Brit now..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Alright saying Haye obliterates him........But he said he would obliterate a guy of similar height and size..

and bottled it..

Can't believe you've the gall to even remotely compare Fury and Wlad

It's like you've never encountered TRUSS before in your life. Of course he has the gall....what he lacks is the commonsense not to say such stupid things

Stop wumming..

That's exactly what people think when you make comparisons between Wlad and Fury as to their ability to terrify and nullify David Haye

I never compared ability..

Dear oh dear....

He looked off, so? Seems any other fighter that comes in with being inactive for a long period gets excuses made for them. Look at Chisora...when he fought Fury people said and still say "oh he was being messed about by Wlad so he wasn't 100%".

I again repeat, I wouldn't be caught dead paying to watch Fury live. I went to one of his fights before when a bar I was in had guys from Furys team/ hessessys handed out free tickets because hardly anyone was buying them. But people are jumping all over this fight. His chin is nowhere near prices because Fury has never been stopped. His head went back in the 2nd round and after he clinched he went straight back to taking over the fight. Yes he looked messy and erratic but he still won every round and floored the guy 4 times. It was hardly a struggle.

This fight means nothin. It was a comeback fight after a layoff. Fury thought he just had to turn up to win, Abell have him a few shots. It's a boxing match, what did you want Izzi? For Abell's punch stats to read 0%? Shock horror Fury got hit!!!

We know Fury has goes down and gets caught hard sometimes. My point is people are raving about this as if they never knew it before.

Far too early to judge Joshua, he is facing tomato cans at the moment. I'd like to see him leave the public eye and knuckle down to come back in 10 fights. I like the kid , but I have an awful feeling about him that his going to implode after 4 hard rounds. Ill reserve my judgement after he has actually fought someone, I remember you were giving Price this hype.

Cheers Rodders

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I never compared ability..

Dear oh dear....

Sorry Dippy lad but you've always maintained that Haye would be terrified of Fury and refuse to engage him this stifling any offence. Thus whenever the conversation turns to Haye/Fury you can't help but shoehorn Wlad into the equation as if the two are twins from the same egg.

Jog on

Truss I agree with you. The point I was making is, I take fury by a fight by fight basis.

The fight on Saturday was a comeback after a year lay off losing about 5 mill in the process.

But yet people wanted Fury to fight like Mayweather when he's never fought within 10 miles of that.

He always gets caught, he always looks a bit ragged.

I watched the card last night and Furys is the only fight that was entertaining with good moments.

If I was still a boxnation subscriber I'd be thanking Fury for being on the card because the rest of the night would have been the biggest waste of money ever

DAVE667 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I never compared ability..

Dear oh dear....

Sorry Dippy lad but you've always maintained that Haye would be terrified of Fury and refuse to engage him this stifling any offence. Thus whenever the conversation turns to Haye/Fury you can't help but shoehorn Wlad into the equation as if the two are twins from the same egg.

Jog on

Rest assured I'll jog on when you post something meaningful....

Been six years waiting now..........But I won't give up hope...

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Truss I agree with you. The point I was making is, I take fury by a fight by fight basis.

The fight on Saturday was a comeback after a year lay off losing about 5 mill in the process.

But yet people wanted Fury to fight like Mayweather when he's never fought within 10 miles of that.

He always gets caught, he always looks a bit ragged.

I watched the card last night and Furys is the only fight that was entertaining with good moments.

If I was still a boxnation subscriber I'd be thanking Fury for being on the card because the rest of the night would have been the biggest waste of money ever

Fury has a chance as all heavyweights do........19 stone right hand lands most people go..........

He's treading water as are the other Brits between Wlad and Joshua.........He has to move NOW !!

Forget the punk Chisora....

He was moving pretty well up until the drama queen roped him into a year of.....errrrm drama.

He's back fighting so we will see how he gets on from here. Having Hennessy lingering about is still a negative.

I bet Fury is looking forward to making his championship debut on that website Froch fought Taylor on.

Stll think Hennessy and Fury are too stupid to see the future slipping away......

The future is going to arrive in 18 months time.....

Haye better hope his rehab runs smoothly and quickly also......

If Joshua can take a punch...Fury will wish he'd fought Wlad.......

HBO will be coming over cap in hand..........If this kid wins a belt........Who is going to stop him ??

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I never compared ability..

Dear oh dear....

Because your ridiculous argument would immediately fall flat on your face if you did.

Let's see, think of a big lumbering untalented HW........oh yes, Valuev, where Haye won handily.  So a harder-hitting guy with better chin and significantly more imposing physique couldn't intimidate Haye - but Fury did??

You're either totally discrediting Wlad or simply your own intelligence.

So saying that two 6ft 8 inch-ish guys that weigh 250 pounds at their fighting weights are of similar height and size...Is crazy..

Not much point in asking you to comment on my Bradley thread at the moment...

You won't know who Larry Holmes is..... 

The comparison you made is crazy Truss. I could pull any oaf off the street and compare him the Wlad on that basis.

It was a stupid point you tried to make and failed miserably.

Haye is way overrated on these boards but the only way I can see Fury winning is if he can keep climbing off the floor

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:So saying that two 6ft 8 inch-ish guys that weigh 250 pounds at their fighting weights are of similar height and size...Is crazy..

Not much point in asking you to comment on my Bradley thread at the moment...

You won't know who Larry Holmes is..... 

Wasn't he the porn star you had a crush on before Peter North?

Utter codswallop and you're making yourself look a complete and utter fool by suggesting it.

Haye beats, and isn't intimidated by, a 7' 300lb monster with a chin and punch but would be scared Poopie by an equally incompetent 6'9" 270lber without a chin or punch BECAUSE he couldn't engage successfully, let alone beat, a Top20 ATG HW who's a supremely athletic 6'6" 250lber with huge power and excellent defensive skills.

Pathetic wally.

Rodney wrote:Far too early to judge Joshua, he is facing tomato cans at the moment. I'd like to see him leave the public eye and knuckle down to come back in 10 fights. I like the kid , but I have an awful feeling about him that his going to implode after 4 hard rounds. Ill reserve my judgement after he has actually fought someone, I remember you were giving Price this hype.

Cheers Rodders

Question is who gives him four hard rounds.

TopHat24/7 wrote:Utter codswallop and you're making yourself look a complete and utter fool by suggesting it.

Haye beats, and isn't intimidated by, a 7' 300lb monster with a chin and punch but would be scared Poopie by an equally incompetent 6'9" 270lber without a chin or punch BECAUSE he couldn't engage successfully, let alone beat, a Top20 ATG HW who's a supremely athletic 6'6" 250lber with huge power and excellent defensive skills.

Pathetic wally.

Do me a favor...You, Dave and Lumbering stay on this thread....

There are some knowledgeable and interesting posters on the Bradley one..

In other words, people who don't laugh mercilessly through the chasms in your pathetic transparent arguments.

Oooh..........I feel so challenged !!   

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Oooh..........I feel so challenged !!   

For someone who considers themselves so 'unchallenged' you are hopeless at defending your position.

That's not good Truss, Windy was a legend & will always remain a legend.

Yea I will be popping on when I get a chance Trussy, I switched jobs since the old days...finally decided poker was too stressful for a long term job! Now I'm a PT so I do just as long hours lol.