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Post by Lowlandbrit Wed 12 Mar 2014, 12:51 pm

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sodhat wrote:On Gabbert we may laugh now
And for good reason: www.deadspin.com/the-49ers-traded-for-a-historically-awful-quarterback

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Post by cherriesfna Fri 23 May 2014, 8:42 am

if i was Peterson id be embarrassed getting out preformed by someone you were judged 150 picks above.

PP= Glorified punt returner
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 23 May 2014, 9:39 pm

Seahawks made a boo bo  

Waived sixth round pick after finding out he's got a rare heart condition
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 23 May 2014, 10:30 pm

Also Ray Rice sent out an apology for his wife beating, but didn't actually apologise to his wife

Despicable man
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Post by GSC Sat 24 May 2014, 10:28 am

"Failure isn't getting knocked down, it's not getting back up".

An actual Ray Rice quite yesterday
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Post by Lowlandbrit Sat 24 May 2014, 10:43 pm

GSC wrote:"Failure isn't getting knocked down, it's not getting back up".

An actual Ray Rice quite yesterday
Just think: someone wrote that down and thought it was a great idea to have him say that.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 27 May 2014, 7:00 pm

First day of OTA's
Sean Lee injured, by Zack Martin for . Oh Dallas
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Post by GSC Tue 27 May 2014, 7:46 pm

Bob Sanders playing MLB
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Post by Forward Pass Wed 28 May 2014, 8:48 am

Olly wrote:First day of OTA's
Sean Lee injured, by Zack Martin for . Oh Dallas
latest reports say Lee out for 6 - 8 months
His seasons over as we won't be playing in Jan
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Post by NYJ Wed 28 May 2014, 9:02 am

Crying shame. So talented.
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Post by GSC Wed 28 May 2014, 9:06 am

Aye. Great player, but you question how much longer he can play under that contract. Injuries must take their toll eventually
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Post by sodhat Wed 28 May 2014, 9:29 am

Feel terrible for Sean Lee. He's a great player to watch, one of the only playmakers on an awful Cowboys D.

Zach Martin probably can't feel great about it either. Hopefully people don't go too hard on the guy.

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Post by GSC Wed 28 May 2014, 9:32 am

Martin didn't even do anything, his knee buckled before Martin got to him.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 28 May 2014, 9:12 pm

So that's Glazer and Wilson who've dropped this off season

Shame Wilson never saw his Bills win a title, or a playoff game in a long time. Glazer's had pretty good success
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Post by GSC Thu 29 May 2014, 11:21 am



Purely for Olly
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 29 May 2014, 12:14 pm

Who's the best looking punt returner in the NFL?

ITS YOU JULIAN  heart
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Post by NYJ Thu 29 May 2014, 1:14 pm

That was great. Julian Edelman is a top guy.
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Post by CFCNick Fri 30 May 2014, 9:38 pm

Josh Freeman released.

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Post by crazy_dave23 Sat 31 May 2014, 2:31 pm

CFCNick wrote:Josh Freeman released.

Beaten out by the man, the myth, the legend... Curtis Painter

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Post by crazy_dave23 Wed 04 Jun 2014, 7:07 pm

Tumbleweed 

The joy of an NFL June...

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:32 pm

After last June Dave, from a patriots fan perspective I'm pretty happy for nothing to be happening!
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Post by Guest Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:01 pm

49ers have given Kap a 6 year extension worth $110+m

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Post by GSC Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:02 pm

126m 60m guar

Oh dear
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:06 pm

Oomph that's a lot
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Post by GSC Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:09 pm

Giving Fat Al a run for his money in worst NFL contract.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:15 pm

Russell Wilson's agent just got an incredible hard on
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Post by cherriesfna Thu 05 Jun 2014, 12:35 am

Ahahahahahhahahahahahahaaha

And just like the the 40whiners franchise gets pushed back into mediocrity for another 5-10 years, not just because Squidward is a top 16 QB at a push. Have fun building a competitive roster with no cap room. Shame they can't draft for sh*t either, Harbaugh has done nothing to prove he can build a roster.
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Post by sodhat Thu 05 Jun 2014, 9:07 am

Yeah, I think you guys jumped to early. The deal isn't as bad as the headlines sound, the Niners have been pretty shrewd here. Bearing in mind that the cap will be going up and up, I think you ought to be more worried about how much Wilson gets Cherries.

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Post by GSC Thu 05 Jun 2014, 9:19 am

Every deal except Romos "isn't as bad as the headlines sound". Vicks 100m contract had like a 20m roster bonus in its final year he was never going to get. Ultimately, I would've made him play out this season before I gave him that much.
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Post by sodhat Thu 05 Jun 2014, 9:45 am

But with a super bowl ready team, is that too risky? They could have pulled a Ravens move and ended up paying more guaranteed money if they won it all.

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Post by Lowlandbrit Thu 05 Jun 2014, 9:47 am

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/05/the-full-kaepernick-contract-details/
As one source put it, Kaepernick can feel good about the deal because he has a lot more guaranteed money today than he had yesterday.  But the same source also added that the 49ers are nevertheless “thrilled” with the contract, which allows them to control Kaepernick’s rights for seven years and to move on after any of the next six seasons, if they ultimately decide that Kaepernick is more like the guy who struggled at times during the 2013 regular season and less like the guy who found the gas pedal in the playoffs.

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Post by cherriesfna Thu 05 Jun 2014, 9:48 am

difference between Wilson and Squidward is that Wilson is not a SUPERDOUCHE
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Post by sodhat Thu 05 Jun 2014, 9:50 am

He isn't, no, but luckily the obnoxious Seahawks fans more than make up for that.

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Post by BamBam Thu 05 Jun 2014, 4:24 pm

Looking at the headline figure I was a bit unsure whether this was the right move, but now reading the detail I think this makes perfect sense.

If he lives up to the contract amount, then we will probably be contending for the Super Bowl in the next 6 years, if not then we are able to cut him with no penalty.

Pretty much sounds like $13m guaranteed .. Dennis Pitta got $16m!

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Post by Lowlandbrit Sat 07 Jun 2014, 10:42 pm

There are some things that are inherently believable. Like, when someone tweets "not the greatest of pics, but here's Manziel enjoying some X games after party festivities in Austin at Rio" and it's a dude floating on an inflatable swan chugging a bottle of liquor, you just believe it because, well, why wouldn't Manziel do that?
Spoiler:
deadspin.com/johnny-manziel-drinking-on-an-inflatable-swan

I can't see him lasting long, but it's going to be fun while it lasts.

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Post by GSC Wed 11 Jun 2014, 9:44 am

In a bit of fun (and because this http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap2000000356602/world-cupnfl-team-comparisons is a bit pants)

I'd say Argentina are more akin to the Lions. Plenty of stars offensively but never quite come together in crunch time, and a weak defense.

England-Cowboys is spot on.

Portugal are more like the Patriots for me, star QB, lesser supporting cast
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Post by Lowlandbrit Thu 12 Jun 2014, 7:14 pm

Atlanta Falcons will be on Hard Knocks this year. Interesting, since they weren't one of the teams that could be forced to appear.

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Post by Guest Thu 12 Jun 2014, 7:54 pm

Hoyer the starting QB going into Browns training camp

I liked the look of Hoyer before he done his ACL

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Post by NYJ Thu 12 Jun 2014, 8:43 pm

gazzyD wrote:Hoyer the starting QB going into Browns training camp

I liked the look of Hoyer before he done his ACL

Just like Bortles and Bridgewater aren't the starters. They'll all be starting Week 1, IMO. Got to make them work for the job.
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Post by GSC Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:11 pm

I hear the most absurd praise for Hoyer off that Vikings game
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 14 Jun 2014, 10:53 am

Brian Hoyer had one alright game which got blown up cos he's not Brandon weeden and he's coming off ACL surgery 

There's no chance he starts over Manziel
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Post by Guest Sun 22 Jun 2014, 7:15 pm

Has anybody on here used NFL.com for ordering

I want an Oakland jersey but not McFadden (given the fact he'll be injured by the Wembley game) but on the Nike store on NFL UK shop the only other players aside from McFadden don't play for us anymore.

Also need to know if anybody knows what these pro line jerseys are like, again if you want a player that still plays for us that isn't McFragile or Seabass you have to get a pro line jersey which are the same cost but not made by Nike

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Post by sodhat Mon 23 Jun 2014, 9:18 am

gazzyD wrote:Has anybody on here used NFL.com for ordering

I want an Oakland jersey but not McFadden (given the fact he'll be injured by the Wembley game) but on the Nike store on NFL UK shop the only other players aside from McFadden don't play for us anymore.

Also need to know if anybody knows what these pro line jerseys are like, again if you want a player that still plays for us that isn't McFragile or Seabass you have to get a pro line jersey which are the same cost but not made by Nike

I used NFL.com for my Marcel Reece jersey, but you have to use the custom jerseys here:

http://www.nflshop.com/Oakland_Raiders_Jerseys/Nike_Men%E2%80%99s_Oakland_Raiders_Customized_Game_Team_Color_Jersey

You can then pick any player on the roster for your jersey.

You might want to sit tight though, I had an email a few weeks back saying that soon we'll be able to buy and player of any team from the UK/Europe store. Unless that was a beautiful dream.

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Post by CFCNick Mon 23 Jun 2014, 10:37 pm

On the NFLUK store you can buy custom jerseys but they are the bottom level jersey.

I bought my Cruz limited jersey, premier in reebok jargon, two years ago and it is fantastic. Material is stiil strong. Letters and numbers haven't lost any stitching. Very well made product.

I haven't tried the nike equivilant to the reebok replica but if you have the money a nike limited jersey is well worth.

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Post by GSC Wed 02 Jul 2014, 2:55 pm

The Dallas Cowboys traded for a terrible LB, who has twice retired from the NFL because he didn't like Football.

This actually happened.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 03 Jul 2014, 10:08 pm

Barring Dallas being silly some other snippets

Kiko Alonso out for the season

Dion Jordon suspended four games

Lavon Brazil suspended for at least a year
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Post by Lowlandbrit Thu 03 Jul 2014, 10:59 pm

Rokevious Watkins from the Chiefs has been suspended for four games too. Drug testers handing in their homework just before the holidays by the looks of things.
Olly wrote:Dion Jordon suspended four games
He says he tested positive for stimulants. Apparently the kind that, according to one OTA report by a Dolphins beat writer, made him look "as if he took an air pump and plugged it into his arms and shoulders this offseason".

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Post by Leedscowboys Sat 05 Jul 2014, 8:37 am

GSC wrote:The Dallas Cowboys traded for a terrible LB, who has twice retired from the NFL because he didn't like Football.

This actually happened.

The trade was very friendly towards Dallas, if McLain does not see a certain number of snaps or makes the game day 43 Dallas do not have to give up anything, if he sees the snaps and makes the 43 man roster and Dallas finish with a better record than the ravens they swap 7th rounders.

If he plays every week and is a 3 down LB, Dallas give up a 2016, 6th rounder. His contract is $700kno guarantees, not bad for a 25yr old LB who is a former top 8 pick.
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Post by GSC Sat 05 Jul 2014, 10:39 am

You acquired a terrible player with little to no desire to play football. I really don't care how much or little you gave up for him.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 05 Jul 2014, 10:59 am

Guys 1. An extremely poor player
2. Retired at least twice by 25
3. Been given numerous chances by good organisations (Ravens in particular) and has failed to even get in shape to do workouts

Yet Dallas have traded for him

There can be no justification for that as GSC said
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Post by Bull Sat 05 Jul 2014, 11:28 am

Anyone know if our fantasy thing on NFL.com is happening again?

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