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Post by wrfc1980 Sat 15 Mar 2014, 7:06 pm

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Can't believe cian Healy wasn't redcarded for the flying butt! Presumably he will receive a hefty citing ban?

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Post by doctor_grey Sun 16 Mar 2014, 9:40 am

MrsP wrote:It happens at 60.51 on the match clock and 1:46:21 on the iplayer clock.

Straight head on head at a ruck. No arms.

He was very lucky to stay on the field.

I will be surprised if he is not cited.
Merci.

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Post by Nachos Jones Sun 16 Mar 2014, 9:40 am

I imagine that Healy will be cited and banned, it was an absolute brain fart and if France had not scored the try then I am certain that Walsh would have shown the yellow card.

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Post by MrsP Sun 16 Mar 2014, 9:44 am

But France only scored from the penalty awarded from that incident. There was already a pen advantage anyway.

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Post by Nachos Jones Sun 16 Mar 2014, 9:46 am

I thought that Walsh was already playing advantage when it happened MrsP and then awarded another advantage from which France scored?

No try and he would have gone back and awarded a yellow. I could be wrong though as I was a little excited yesterday and have not re-watched the game yet.

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Post by LondonTiger Sun 16 Mar 2014, 9:49 am

Nachos Jones wrote:I thought that Walsh was already playing advantage when it happened MrsP and then awarded another advantage from which France scored?

No try and he would have gone back and awarded a yellow. I could be wrong though as I was a little excited yesterday and have not re-watched the game yet.

Walsh plays advantage, again, Tales kicks to corner too long. Walsh comes back for penalty, France kick the penalty to touch, then score try from those set of phases.

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Post by MrsP Sun 16 Mar 2014, 9:49 am

No, he staopped play and awarded a pen from which France scored the try. I only remember so well because I have just watched it.

Edit: What LT said.

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Post by Nachos Jones Sun 16 Mar 2014, 9:52 am

Ok, then I stand corrected. I was too nervous yesterday to pay too much attention.

Still a nasty little thing to do.

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Post by HammerofThunor Sun 16 Mar 2014, 9:59 am

I don't think Walsh saw the collision. When I first saw it I thought he had just flopped over the ball from offside, definitely penalty and arguably yellow as they were already on advantage and it was near the try line.

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Sun 16 Mar 2014, 10:05 am

The Saint wrote:No, no reason at all apart from only coming online when Wales lose a game (or Healy gives away a penalty) to post sub-standard WUMs. And my posts are aimed at the one with the agenda.

What exactly is a good WUM, Saint?

You appear to be the the self-styled expert on the toxonomy of wummery.

[ed.] p.s. How does this post rate?

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Post by nathan Sun 16 Mar 2014, 11:17 am

Portnoy's Complaint wrote:
The Saint wrote:No, no reason at all apart from only coming online when Wales lose a game (or Healy gives away a penalty) to post sub-standard WUMs. And my posts are aimed at the one with the agenda.

What exactly is a good WUM, Saint?

You appear to be the the self-styled expert on the toxonomy of wummery.

[ed.] p.s. How does this post rate?

i think his idea of a good wum is just posting the scoreline from last years eng/wal 6 nations game.

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Sun 16 Mar 2014, 11:27 am

That really must a sub-standard wum one anyone's scale, nathan.

You really must try a lot harder than that.

I reckon that St. hasn't replied because he's still looking up 'taxonomy'.

The study of classifications, Saint.

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Post by RugbyFan182 Sun 16 Mar 2014, 11:34 am

Duty281 wrote:He's a common thug.

I think we have a couple of sore losers in this apparently "non anti-Irish trend". It was accidental IMO, and I don't think your sly remarks at hitting out at Healy will change the outcome of the championship. It doesn't gave a good impression when a writer on 606v2 is labeling players "thugs". If you want to play that game, Farrell in the Ireland/England game should have been yellow carded for hes incredibly late shoulder charge on Conner Murray which was passed off with a blind eye.There were a couple of instances in which there were late tackles one of note to deliberately I felt to injure Ireland players, including a late tackle on sexton. Ireland won because they were the best team in the championship, not because apparent "Irish thug" was not yellow carded. So, when your drinking your pints of the "Black stuff" on tomorrow on Patrick's Day they will be all the sweeter this side of the Irish sea. No grudges.

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Post by nathan Sun 16 Mar 2014, 11:41 am

RugbyFan182 wrote:
Duty281 wrote:He's a common thug.

I think we have a couple of sore losers in this apparently "non anti-Irish trend". It was accidental IMO, and I don't think your sly remarks at hitting out at Healy will change the outcome of the championship. It doesn't gave a good impression when a writer on 606v2 is labeling players "thugs".  If you want to play that game, Farrell in the Ireland/England game should have been yellow carded for hes incredibly late shoulder charge on Conner Murray which was passed off with a blind eye.There were a couple of instances in which there were late tackles one of note to deliberately I felt to injure Ireland players, including a late tackle on sexton. Ireland won because they were the best team in the championship, not because apparent "Irish thug" was not yellow carded. So, when your drinking your pints of the "Black stuff" on tomorrow on Patrick's Day they will be all the sweeter this side of the Irish sea. No grudges.

I think you probably have a few people calling him a thug as thats what a few irish posters did with Farrell (one of those being an Irish mod). Nothing to do with being sore losers. I think you need calm down, everyone is entitled to their opinion without being labelled a sore loser.

Ireland were the best team in the championship but only just, only by one forward pass! But thats what makes it exciting, being so close. Here's to next year, it's going to be exciting!

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Post by RugbyFan182 Sun 16 Mar 2014, 12:07 pm

nathan wrote:
RugbyFan182 wrote:
Duty281 wrote:He's a common thug.

I think we have a couple of sore losers in this apparently "non anti-Irish trend". It was accidental IMO, and I don't think your sly remarks at hitting out at Healy will change the outcome of the championship. It doesn't gave a good impression when a writer on 606v2 is labeling players "thugs".  If you want to play that game, Farrell in the Ireland/England game should have been yellow carded for hes incredibly late shoulder charge on Conner Murray which was passed off with a blind eye.There were a couple of instances in which there were late tackles one of note to deliberately I felt to injure Ireland players, including a late tackle on sexton. Ireland won because they were the best team in the championship, not because apparent "Irish thug" was not yellow carded. So, when your drinking your pints of the "Black stuff" on tomorrow on Patrick's Day they will be all the sweeter this side of the Irish sea. No grudges.

I think  you probably have a few people calling him a thug as thats what a few irish posters did with Farrell (one of those being an Irish mod). Nothing to do with being sore losers. I think you need calm down, everyone is entitled to their opinion without being labelled a sore loser.

Ireland were the best team in the championship but only just, only by one forward pass! But thats what makes it exciting, being so close. Here's to next year, it's going to be exciting!

No, Nathan not by a forward pass, but 10 points better, by scoring more try's than England and conceding less. Having tougher away game's and still coming through the better team. Characterizing a teams win down to negativity like a "forward pass" is petty, if you believe a "forward pass" was all that stopped England winning the championship you better look at the table again.

Ireland won the Championship because they deserved it, they were better than England overall the championship. Nathan, I am more than calm, We are Six nations champions...Happy Patrick's Day. Enjoy the "Black Stuff" Leprechaun  Leprechaun  Drool .

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Post by Cyril Sun 16 Mar 2014, 12:15 pm

Guinness is 'orrible. Does anybody still drink it apart from Americans? Wink

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Post by The Saint Sun 16 Mar 2014, 6:06 pm

nathan wrote:
Portnoy's Complaint wrote:
The Saint wrote:No, no reason at all apart from only coming online when Wales lose a game (or Healy gives away a penalty) to post sub-standard WUMs. And my posts are aimed at the one with the agenda.

What exactly is a good WUM, Saint?

You appear to be the the self-styled expert on the toxonomy of wummery.

[ed.] p.s. How does this post rate?

i think his idea of a good wum is just posting the scoreline from last years eng/wal 6 nations game.

Some of GE's can be good, but only some Smile. I think mine are pretty decent too...

Is this your only contribution to the thread though? Astonishing.


Nathan, no. Perhaps one day you'll stop posting childish comments and showing off when Wales win a game of rugby. I the find the latter behaviour from you quite ironic giving the amount of rubbish you go posting about Wales (and on the last day, Ireland), then go off complaining about people wumming.

Kudos to the Sore Losers brigade. Maybe next year guys Hug.

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Post by HammerofThunor Sun 16 Mar 2014, 6:40 pm

I think mine are pretty decent too...

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Post by Gibson Sun 16 Mar 2014, 7:04 pm

whocares wrote:Healy didnt do much harm and if anything it wasnt intentional. Who knows what Picamoles done to him before. People use the term thug a bit too lightly over here. What's next? Bastareaud should be cited for trampling on Sexton?

Oh the French. In the middle of a virtual assassination by the tabloid-reading,  pussey-footed, English soccerball fans, we have the cultured French, with a reasoned, civilised view.

God, I just love the French.  guinness

Pour toi mon ami.  OK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XsxdQW1s8E


Why would Healy contrive to knock himself out, never mind Picamoles?  No way he meant to head-butt him. But it was dangerous. He should be cited. Perspective.

Rugby is for real wimmin. Not pusseys.
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Post by Gibson Sun 16 Mar 2014, 7:10 pm

Portnoy's Complaint wrote:
The Saint wrote:No, no reason at all apart from only coming online when Wales lose a game (or Healy gives away a penalty) to post sub-standard WUMs. And my posts are aimed at the one with the agenda.

What exactly is a good WUM, Saint?

You appear to be the the self-styled expert on the toxonomy of wummery.

[ed.] p.s. How does this post rate?

9/10 for your eloquent use of the English language, Port old chap.

Not a tabloid-reader. OK Ale
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Post by GunsGerms Sun 16 Mar 2014, 8:07 pm

whocares wrote:Healy didnt do much harm and if anything it wasnt intentional. Who knows what Picamoles done to him before. People use the term thug a bit too lightly over here. What's next? Bastareaud should be cited for trampling on Sexton?

Fair play whocares. Nice bit of balance there. Healy is a thug in England because of one incident. How sad.

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Post by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sun 16 Mar 2014, 8:26 pm

To be fair to Healy he only accidentally poked warburton in the eye when binding for the scrum in this years ire v wal game, I also don't think he cleared the ruck with his head on purpose he just did what comes natural to him when clearing a ruck as all pro 12 fans would tell you.

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Post by Cyril Sun 16 Mar 2014, 8:54 pm

GunsGerms wrote:
whocares wrote:Healy didnt do much harm and if anything it wasnt intentional. Who knows what Picamoles done to him before. People use the term thug a bit too lightly over here. What's next? Bastareaud should be cited for trampling on Sexton?

Fair play whocares. Nice bit of balance there. Healy is a thug in England because of one incident. How sad.
Guns, it's more than one incident. Each one being rather more serious than Farrell's petulance that you seem to have a very firm stance on.

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Post by Gibson Sun 16 Mar 2014, 9:52 pm

Ah Guns is accusing Farrel of being a kunst,  is it? Live and die by the sword then,  mo Irish chara.

Farrel is as much of a kunst as Healy. Why? They both want to be best-in-position. Why cant ye people understand this basic premise? Picamoles didnt even wince. He got a belt. He got up. Hes a man. So man da phhok up ya wimps.
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Post by SecretFly Sun 16 Mar 2014, 10:04 pm

Gibson wrote:Ah Guns is accusing Farrel of being a kunst,  is it? Live and die by the sword then,  mo Irish chara.

Farrel is as much of a kunst as Healy. Why? They both want to be best-in-position. Why cant ye people understand this basic premise? Picamoles didnt even wince. He got a belt.  He got up. Hes a man. So man da phhok up ya wimps.

Oh his left Mafia eye did wince and looked pretty p-issed...and probably threatened Healy with an impending contract Wink 
His nice right eye didn't seem to be offended at all though - all part of a robust passionate sport.

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Post by thomh Sun 16 Mar 2014, 10:07 pm

RugbyFan182 wrote:No, Nathan not by a forward pass, but 10 points better, by scoring more try's than England and conceding less. Having tougher away game's and still coming through the better team. Characterizing a teams win down to negativity like a "forward pass" is petty, if you believe a "forward pass" was all that stopped England winning the championship you better look at the table again.

Not sure what this means. If that pass hadn't gone forward then England literally would have won the Championship - probably the same for a missed French kick or possible penalty from the last scrum.

The two teams are pretty inseparable performance-wise right now, and in those cases it comes down to absolutely tiny margins. Can't begrudge Ireland the win at all, but if France had kicked that penalty or made that pass then I don't think you could begrudge England it either.

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Post by Gibson Sun 16 Mar 2014, 10:40 pm

I thought England were the most complete team in this comp.

Even with Schmidt, they have a year on Ireland, that's for sure.
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Post by lostinwales Sun 16 Mar 2014, 10:46 pm

Back (barely) to the citing or no.

He should be cited because it appeared to be dangerous play. That is separate from banning and whatever else. Its just worth the powers that be exploring what happened in more detail. If they decide it was an accident and he just fell forward with his arms at his side then so be it.

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Post by Gibson Sun 16 Mar 2014, 11:09 pm

Good man Lost. Nailed. OK  guinness 
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Post by Gibson Sun 16 Mar 2014, 11:11 pm

And I never even mentioned what Farrell did to Murray. And I could have. In all fairness.
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Post by Notch Sun 16 Mar 2014, 11:12 pm

nathan wrote:
RugbyFan182 wrote:
Duty281 wrote:He's a common thug.

I think we have a couple of sore losers in this apparently "non anti-Irish trend". It was accidental IMO, and I don't think your sly remarks at hitting out at Healy will change the outcome of the championship. It doesn't gave a good impression when a writer on 606v2 is labeling players "thugs".  If you want to play that game, Farrell in the Ireland/England game should have been yellow carded for hes incredibly late shoulder charge on Conner Murray which was passed off with a blind eye.There were a couple of instances in which there were late tackles one of note to deliberately I felt to injure Ireland players, including a late tackle on sexton. Ireland won because they were the best team in the championship, not because apparent "Irish thug" was not yellow carded. So, when your drinking your pints of the "Black stuff" on tomorrow on Patrick's Day they will be all the sweeter this side of the Irish sea. No grudges.

I think  you probably have a few people calling him a thug as thats what a few irish posters did with Farrell (one of those being an Irish mod). Nothing to do with being sore losers. I think you need calm down, everyone is entitled to their opinion without being labelled a sore loser.

Ireland were the best team in the championship but only just, only by one forward pass! But thats what makes it exciting, being so close. Here's to next year, it's going to be exciting!

 Headscratch Think you are misremembering that tbh...
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Post by Notch Sun 16 Mar 2014, 11:14 pm

The Saint wrote:
Kudos to the Sore Losers brigade

You know what they say Saint, self-praise is no praise!  Laugh 
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Post by Gibson Sun 16 Mar 2014, 11:17 pm

We are all watching a different video of the Game Notch. Sometimes, its astounding how different that is.

Bless.

Trimble will never make it again, at this level. OK :DressedOrange:
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Post by Notch Sun 16 Mar 2014, 11:22 pm

He's finished for sure! No cutting edge that man  zen 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TtpWEj1YHo&index=13&list=PLg20xIo2wglIRYbbY3e6IhlX_ItAo7Jr4

(If he dummied he goes under the posts though!)

Here and what about Chris Henry throwing a Sonny Bill one-handed offload for the first try?! Didn't know he had it in him.
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Post by Notch Sun 16 Mar 2014, 11:24 pm

I reckon Chris Henry has been spending a bit too much time hanging around with Nick Williams, except he actually pulls it off!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1geM7BP19WI
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Post by wolfball Mon 17 Mar 2014, 12:19 am

Notch wrote:I reckon Chris Henry has been spending a bit too much time hanging around with Nick Williams, except he actually pulls it off!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1geM7BP19WI

I didn't realise in realtime, but that offload is probably the best thing I saw in this tournament. Henry is def one of our players of the 6 nations. Delighted for him.

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Post by Heaf Mon 17 Mar 2014, 12:39 am

thomh wrote:
RugbyFan182 wrote:No, Nathan not by a forward pass, but 10 points better, by scoring more try's than England and conceding less. Having tougher away game's and still coming through the better team. Characterizing a teams win down to negativity like a "forward pass" is petty, if you believe a "forward pass" was all that stopped England winning the championship you better look at the table again.

Not sure what this means. If that pass hadn't gone forward then England literally would have won the Championship - probably the same for a missed French kick or possible penalty from the last scrum.

The two teams are pretty inseparable performance-wise right now, and in those cases it comes down to absolutely tiny margins. Can't begrudge Ireland the win at all, but if France had kicked that penalty or made that pass then I don't think you could begrudge England it either.

I agree, it would be easy to pick a dozen things that if they'd gone the other way would have changed the end result - I think both teams are very close at the moment.  Re the home/away games you could also make the point that Ireland had 3 home games to England's 2 which allowed them to wrack up the points difference … in the end it was Ireland's year and good luck to them and a fitting send-off for BOD, one of my all-time favourite players.

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Post by Cowshot Mon 17 Mar 2014, 3:00 am

Saint wrote:Some of GE's can be good, but only some Smile. I think mine are pretty decent too...

You think making your country and people more loathed and despised by your behaviour is good?

Oh my.

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Post by GunsGerms Mon 17 Mar 2014, 8:50 am

wolfball wrote:
Notch wrote:I reckon Chris Henry has been spending a bit too much time hanging around with Nick Williams, except he actually pulls it off!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1geM7BP19WI

I didn't realise in realtime, but that offload is probably the best thing I saw in this tournament. Henry is def one of our players of the 6 nations. Delighted for him.

Agree. The three ulster lads were phenominal. Rog and Horgan practically asked Trimble to marry them after the game. Great to see.

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Post by The Saint Mon 17 Mar 2014, 3:30 pm

Cowshot wrote:
Saint wrote:Some of GE's can be good, but only some Smile. I think mine are pretty decent too...

You think making your country and people more loathed and despised by your behaviour is good?

Oh my.

Speak for yourselves, Sore Losers crew.

How's the 2nd place finish today, still better than 1st place?

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Post by Geordie Mon 17 Mar 2014, 3:42 pm

Still making yourself popular i see saint.

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Post by Barney McGrew did it Mon 17 Mar 2014, 3:44 pm

Healy will be fine once he gets his head in the right place
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Post by Poorfour Mon 17 Mar 2014, 4:13 pm

Barney McGrew did it wrote:Healy will be fine once he gets his head in the right place

It was more an issue of not using the arms, if you ask me
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Post by fa0019 Mon 17 Mar 2014, 4:18 pm

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Scrumpy wrote:The guys a thug, he'll be cited soon enough, but how he got away with is beyond me

This is pathetic,the guy has gotten cited once previously for stamping.If you are just annoyed your beloved England didn't win the championship, don't take it out on Healy.
Calling him a thug is completely out of order, what about Hartley who's got cited countless amount of times(he bites people), and averages 5 penalties per game.Or Manu Tualagi who nearly punched the head off Ashton.Or Ashton.
For the amount of caps that Healy has gottten, he has only 1 yellow card, and you're calling this guy a thug, pathetic!

it is 2 years in a row in the 6N mind. Going to start getting singled out. Like Hartley, once you get that rep its difficult to shed.

But he's not achieved the level of bakkies or cudmore yet.

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Post by Geordie Mon 17 Mar 2014, 4:21 pm

Its flamin rugby guys. Do you want everyone to be all nicey nicey to each other. Heally works it...Farrell does...i want some of my players like that.

Get stuck in and wind the opposition up...

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Post by nathan Mon 17 Mar 2014, 7:33 pm

RugbyFan182 wrote:
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Duty281 wrote:He's a common thug.

I think we have a couple of sore losers in this apparently "non anti-Irish trend". It was accidental IMO, and I don't think your sly remarks at hitting out at Healy will change the outcome of the championship. It doesn't gave a good impression when a writer on 606v2 is labeling players "thugs".  If you want to play that game, Farrell in the Ireland/England game should have been yellow carded for hes incredibly late shoulder charge on Conner Murray which was passed off with a blind eye.There were a couple of instances in which there were late tackles one of note to deliberately I felt to injure Ireland players, including a late tackle on sexton. Ireland won because they were the best team in the championship, not because apparent "Irish thug" was not yellow carded. So, when your drinking your pints of the "Black stuff" on tomorrow on Patrick's Day they will be all the sweeter this side of the Irish sea. No grudges.

I think  you probably have a few people calling him a thug as thats what a few irish posters did with Farrell (one of those being an Irish mod). Nothing to do with being sore losers. I think you need calm down, everyone is entitled to their opinion without being labelled a sore loser.

Ireland were the best team in the championship but only just, only by one forward pass! But thats what makes it exciting, being so close. Here's to next year, it's going to be exciting!

No, Nathan not by a forward pass, but 10 points better, by scoring more try's than England and conceding less. Having tougher away game's and still coming through the better team. Characterizing a teams win down to negativity like a "forward pass" is petty, if you believe a "forward pass" was all that stopped England winning the championship you better look at the table again.

Ireland won the Championship because they deserved it, they were better than England overall the championship. Nathan, I am more than calm, We are Six nations champions...Happy Patrick's Day. Enjoy the "Black Stuff" Leprechaun  Leprechaun  Drool .

I'm failing to see where i said ireland wasn't deserving?

How is it petty? If France had scored that try, they would of probably won the game. It was a close 6 nations, i suggest you look at the table again!

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Post by Biltong Mon 17 Mar 2014, 7:35 pm

The Saint wrote:
Cowshot wrote:
Saint wrote:Some of GE's can be good, but only some Smile. I think mine are pretty decent too...

You think making your country and people more loathed and despised by your behaviour is good?

Oh my.

Speak for yourselves, Sore Losers crew.

How's the 2nd place finish today, still better than 1st place?

If my team came third in the Six Nations, I wouldn't be mocking the team that came second, eh?
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Post by Scratch Mon 17 Mar 2014, 7:46 pm

Cowshot wrote:
Saint wrote:Some of GE's can be good, but only some Smile. I think mine are pretty decent too...

You think making your country and people more loathed and despised by your behaviour is good?

Oh my.

If you 'loathe and despise' a country and people based on Saint then i think the problem lies just as much with you Cowshot.

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Post by HammerofThunor Mon 17 Mar 2014, 8:20 pm

It's not just Saint, Scratch. Not just Saint  Wink 

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Post by Scratch Mon 17 Mar 2014, 8:28 pm

HammerofThunor wrote:It's not just Saint, Scratch. Not just Saint  Wink 

I repeat, if you loathe and despise a 'country and its people' based on me or saint, then the problem lies with you.  thumbsup 

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Post by HammerofThunor Mon 17 Mar 2014, 8:35 pm

Who's talking about you? Arrogant so and so. Clearly an English WUM pretending to be Welsh.

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