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Post by LondonTiger Mon 07 Apr 2014, 12:59 pm

First topic message reminder :

Table:







Pos Team __Pld__ __Won__ _Drawn_ _Lost_ __For__ _Against_ __TF__ __TA__ __TBP__ __LBP__ __Pts__
1
Saracens
18
16
0
2
507
260
53
27
8
0
72
2
Northampton Saints
18
14
1
3
451
269
52
22
5
2
65
3
Leicester Tigers
18
12
2
4
422
342
43
30
4
2
58
4
Bath Rugby
18
12
1
5
410
313
40
32
3
2
55
5
Sale Sharks
18
11
0
7
323
296
31
25
2
5
51
6
Harlequins
18
11
0
7
337
288
32
26
2
3
49
7
London Wasps
18
7
0
11
341
364
33
33
2
9
39
8
Gloucester Rugby
18
7
0
11
328
425
33
46
2
6
36
9
Exeter Chiefs
18
7
0
11
324
349
28
34
1
6
35
10
London Irish
18
5
0
13
283
390
24
37
0
6
26
11
Newcastle Falcons
18
3
0
15
200
414
15
45
1
6
19
12
Worcester Warriors
18
1
0
17
224
440
18
45
0
6
10

Fixtures:

Fri 11th Apr 14
19:45 Sale Sharks  v   Harlequins BT Sport

Sat 12th Apr 14
15:00 Leicester Tigers  v   London Wasps
15:00        Worcester Warriors  v   Exeter Chiefs
15:15 Gloucester Rugby  v   Bath Rugby BT Sport

Sun 13th Apr 14
14:00 Saracens  v   Northampton Saints BT Sport
15:00 London Irish  v   Newcastle Falcons

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Post by Scrumpy Sat 12 Apr 2014, 4:53 pm

This ref is really really bad!

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Post by Welly Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:00 pm

Shocking play glous going for uncontested.

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Post by Guest Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:15 pm

Well, what a final 15 minutes of Gloucester Bath

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Post by Scrumpy Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:16 pm

Glaws what a disgrace  Very Happy
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Post by Welly Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:16 pm

what an ending everyone should avoid shedweb for a bit.

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Post by Bathite Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:17 pm

I've never seen anything like that! I think I've had a stroke

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Post by Scrumpy Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:21 pm

I might give shedweb a go.
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Post by Welly Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:22 pm

Scrumpy wrote:I might give shedweb a go.
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Post by Guest Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:27 pm

Glad I tuned in for the last 30 minutes of Bath Gloucester. That ref was ruddy awful although fair enough with the yellow and red toward the end (the second yellow, a bit much, maybe fair enough given context of 6 points in it, 5 minutes to go).

Always amazes me to see teams playing 13/12/11 players and they don't just pass it out and straighten up - think the pressure gets to them!

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Post by Welly Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:31 pm

The uncontested bit annoyed me the most Wasps did it before the Premiership stepped in.

 could Glous get docked points if it found out Murphy has played TH before?

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Post by Scrumpy Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:31 pm

They seem like a level headed bunch, not what I was expecting but I guess the guys at the game haven't got home yet and I doubt whether smart phones have reached glawshire yet!
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Post by Welly Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:33 pm

Scrumpy wrote:They seem like a level headed bunch, not what I was expecting but I guess the guys at the game haven't got home yet and I doubt whether smart phones have reached glawshire yet!



 Just wait, they were to busy chanting the referee's a W****r. they will come.

 the match thread is only 6 pages long it usually goes to 14/15.

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Post by Scrumpy Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:33 pm

Murphy played tighthead for Reading irish!
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Post by Welly Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:34 pm

that's what I thought.

 So could Glous be docked or fined for that?

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Post by Welly Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:35 pm

I think shedweb has been shut down for the time being they did this last time they lost to bath.

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Post by Scrumpy Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:36 pm

They should get Both but I think they'll get a fine.
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Post by EnglishReign Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:39 pm

An exciting end to an otherwise awful edition of the Tim Wigglesworth Show.

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Post by Scrumpy Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:41 pm

Can't argue with that, but to be fair at the end he was pretty good in the fact he got everything right when everyone else lost their heads!
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Post by Welly Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:59 pm

Tom Bradshaw ‏@TomBradshaw1979 4m
The Battle of Kingsholm. I've just seen a photo showing that ref Tim Wigglesworth was pelted with a bottle as he left field with stewards

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Post by Bathman_in_London Sat 12 Apr 2014, 6:00 pm

A fine for that surely, just total unsportsmanlike cheating to lie like that.

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Post by Scrumpy Sat 12 Apr 2014, 6:14 pm

Gloucester website report


Controversy reigns as penalty try snatches win for Bath

This game had so many twists and turns that no-one knew who would emerge triumphant until the very final minute, but referee Tim Wigglesworth took centre stage as multiple cards and a penalty try handed the win to Bath by 18 points to 17.


Not bitter, much! Laugh
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Post by Welly Sat 12 Apr 2014, 6:36 pm

Shedweb is up. and it not just the ref or the players getting stick.

 A new thread

     
What do the "ball boys" actually do?
« on: Today at 06:33:49 PM »

Cos they sure as hell don't provide the ball for play!  How many times Gloucester needed a quick ball and it was never provided. Then when they had a ball, another was thrown onto the pitch.  Just like everything else this season... a f****ng joke!

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Post by Scrumpy Sat 12 Apr 2014, 6:49 pm

Laugh
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Post by Welly Sat 12 Apr 2014, 6:56 pm

"Not blaming them, but it's indicative of the ill-preparedness at our club.  We need every help we can get, 12T was screaming for a ball on a couple of occasions;  and Bath had a couple of quick lineout chances because the ballboys simply sat and watched the game instead of getting to the ball first!  Most professional sports are won by small margins,  getting the ballboys working for the team would be a start!"

 So Glous rebuilding for next season will start with the transfer of new ball boys with Nigel Davies being promoted to head Ball boy and Mark anscombe going in from the less demanding job of Glous head Coach

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Post by LondonTiger Sat 12 Apr 2014, 7:02 pm

Well, we were not very good. Lost count on the number of times lineout jumpers would gather the ball fine, then throw it down wildly or drop it on landing. Crane had control issues at the back of the scrum. Owen Williams struggled with kicking, passing and catching. Niki Goneva tried to do too much. Our receiving at kick offs was shambolic.

Thank the lord for Manu's power and defence. Scored two, saved two.


GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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Post by Welly Sat 12 Apr 2014, 7:04 pm

LondonTiger wrote:Well, we were not very good. Lost count on the number of times lineout jumpers would gather the ball fine, then throw it down wildly or drop it on landing. Crane had control issues at the back of the scrum. Owen Williams struggled with kicking, passing and catching. Niki Goneva tried to do too much. Our receiving at kick offs was shambolic.

Thank the lord for Manu's power and defence. Scored two, saved two.


GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


 A TBP win is a TBP win.

 prob still some rust from the Clermont game.

 How did Logo look when he went off?

 Thought Balmain showed enough to warrant more game time which if Logo is out next week is a very good thing.

 We missed Allen the most by the sound of it today no one took control of the game.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat 12 Apr 2014, 7:05 pm

Feel free not to play Allen next week
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Post by LondonTiger Sat 12 Apr 2014, 7:08 pm

Logo had treatment on the calf, which has been bothering him for some time, within 5 minutes of entering the fray. Matt Mullan had a very solid day.


Crowd largely muted. Sell-out crowd, but it was one of those days when you always feel the result is in no doubt (even when Wasps were leasding) but the fare is a bit average. Volume went mental just for the last 8 minutes.

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Post by Welly Sat 12 Apr 2014, 7:10 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:Feel free not to play Allen next week

 Doubt it he had a good weeks rest.

 Depending on Logo injury we may be without out 1st and 2nd choice TH next week.


 Well Morris and Parling played today which is nicce.

 And Croft, Benjamin and Camacho are nearly back. cockers said Croft could be back before May.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat 12 Apr 2014, 7:12 pm

Oh no, what would it be like to be without one's 1st and 2nd choice Tightheads?! Wink

When Sinckler goes off you could play your 7th choice and do fine
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Post by Welly Sat 12 Apr 2014, 7:14 pm

Yeh but you have Marler, and Ward to of the best front rowers in the AP to cover!!! 

Just a wonder when do Sinckler and Collier become out of contract.

 Just wondering for no reason. (especially Sinckler been looking great so far this season).

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Post by Welly Sat 12 Apr 2014, 7:27 pm

Billy Burns just tweeted

 "Sad to hear a Gloucester fan upset my mum today. Nothing nice to say don't say it. As for Hartpury, great win and a good night ahead!"

 Glous not going about the best way of trying to keep they young talents at glous.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 7:40 pm

I didn't see the Glaws v Bath game, but am reading about the fallout. What a shambles. They have to be fined. Murphy has played tighthead for us before. I accept that he is gash there, but he's not much better at loosehead if we're being honest. He is 100% 'qualified' to play tighthead.
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Post by Scrumpy Sat 12 Apr 2014, 8:33 pm

Mate it was a shambles all round, the ref spoiled the game as a spectacle, but the team who wanted to play rugby won.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Apr 2014, 8:53 pm

Scrumpy wrote:Mate it was a shambles all round, the ref spoiled the game as a spectacle, but the team who wanted to play rugby won.

The ref certainly spoilt the game, it was really strange.

I'm a bit lost at your "wanted to play rugby" comment is suggesting though??

On a side note I thought Ford was awful.

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Post by Scrumpy Sat 12 Apr 2014, 8:57 pm

Ford was awful!

What game did you watch, it wasn't one of his best but he wasn't awful! Some of his passing and vision was superb.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:01 pm

The same game you did.

His kicking from hand was dreadful, as was his goal kicking. I thought his game management was poor and his tackling sub standard. I thought he had a real stinker.

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Post by Scrumpy Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:07 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:The same game you did.

His kicking from hand was dreadful he was average!, as was his goal kicking it was windy. I thought his game management was poor everyone's was off due to the ref blowing his whistle at every breakdown.and his tackling sub standard again he was average but better than most. I thought he had a real stinker in your opinion.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:12 pm

Of course it's my opinion.

I don't think your counter argument holds much weight. Poor goal kicking.....it was windy. Twelvetrees seemed to do ok.

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Post by Scrumpy Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:17 pm

I think you'll find 36 missed some kicks too.
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Post by Scrumpy Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:22 pm

I can't believe Nigel Davies thinks Garveys slightly high tackle should have been a red, it wasn't comparable to Puafisi effort!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:23 pm

Yes he did but he attempted some extremely difficult kicks, Ford's were pretty straight forward.

his tackling sub standard again he was average but better than most.

Incorrect, Ford missed the most tackles of any player on show (3 in total)

I rate Ford, I just thought he had a massive off day.

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Post by Scrumpy Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:27 pm

He was average, but everyone was due to the ref blowing his whistle all the time, ford is never going to be a physical tackling ten!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:35 pm

Missing 3 tackles isn't average, it's poor.

I'm not suggesting he is a bruising tackling 10 but you expect an Int 10 to make his tackles at AP level.

If Ford can't deal with Tindall, Cook etc, how can he be expected to deal with Nonu, Savea?

We obviously have very differing opinions of what is average.

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Post by LondonTiger Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:39 pm

Ford defended the 10 channel really well for us last season. So much so that he had the highest tackle % of any 10 in the league - with more tackles and less misses than Farrell, let alone less defensively able 10s.

However I saw earlier this season that Bath seemed to be hiding him a little in the defensive line - are they still doing that?

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Post by nathan Sun 13 Apr 2014, 8:28 am

Just been reading that Freddie Burns mum was getting abuse from the Glous fans, if that's true i'd be very embarrassed to be a Glous fan.

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Post by kingelderfield Sun 13 Apr 2014, 9:20 am

Let’s cut to the chase, Nigel Davies should be let go. This season has been an all too predictable failure and he should be first on the list to pay the price.

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Sun 13 Apr 2014, 9:25 am

Phew

Chief

Nothing like making life difficult for yersels

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Post by yappysnap Sun 13 Apr 2014, 10:41 am

Well Quins had a nice weekend anyway  Smile  was pleasantly surprised by that game. Far better control by Quins in the face of a very physical and tough Sale pack.

Once we stopped putting ourselves under pressure we looked a very good side.

Oh and I think that's the best result at Sale by an away team all season.

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Post by LondonTiger Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:46 pm

Scrumpy wrote:I can't believe Nigel Davies thinks Garveys slightly high tackle should have been a red, it wasn't comparable to Puafisi effort!

Only not comparable because it was not head on - which saved Garvey a bit (and the player he slammed in the side of his head with his upper arm). Slightly high is very one-eyed comment - especially as once high it is high (surely very high misses?). Garvey smacked the guy in the ear - so pretty much middle of the head.

Unlike the Guardian though - i cannot see Garvey being cited for that challenge.

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