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He shouldn't be saying things like that IMO. Just making things harder for himself.
John wrote:Can see the same thing happening with Kroos, when Bayern stump up the wage & then the pressure will be on Moyes massively, after constantly telling everyone that he's been given the nod by these agents that these players wanted to come to United.
He shouldn't be saying things like that IMO. Just making things harder for himself.
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his passing is overrated for me dolph, all he does all the time is spray cross field balls all the time when a simple pass could do exactly the same. show pony passes for effect. he is good at them though
his short range passing is poor, the amount of times he passes straight to opponents in front of him
his short range passing is poor, the amount of times he passes straight to opponents in front of him
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He's got imagination in his passing, something that most of your team lacks. I'd say in and around the box its Mata, Rooney, Giggs and Kagawa who could do something. RVP, Welbeck, Valencia and the rest don't do genius for the team.
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Dolphin Ziggler wrote:I wouldnt for a second discuss Zlatan in the same sentence as Messi and Ronaldo personally.
I love Rooney. I love his passing, his teamwork, the variety of goals he scores, his workrate, his inventiveness. If he could dribble like a winger then he'd be up there.
If Rooney had gone to Chelsea they would have strolled the league.
Of course no one can tell, but i think you could well be right, he would have added the workrate and the extra goal threat. JM wanted him, but he stayed loyal to Utd after Moyes convinced him he was needed.
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Fernando wrote:"Wayne Rooney is concerned about Manchester United’s plan to install Louis van Gaal as manager, because of the Dutchman’s close relationship with Robin van Persie.
The United frontman is believed to be worried that the situation could revert to how it was during Sir Alex Ferguson’s final season in charge, when Van Persie became United’s first-choice striker.
Rooney was forced into a secondary role and nearly left the club, feeling he was being frozen out"
Im sure he is delighted really 300k to sit on bench and nail old age hookers.
The reason RVP would become United's first choice foward under Van Gaal is for the same reason he was the first choice foward under Fergie - when everyone's fully fit, RVP is clearly the best foward United have.
Rooney just needs to live with this.
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Van Gaal will be confirmed apparently next week. Takes over in the summer.
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well watch rooney go chelsea.
But good coach for united
But good coach for united
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Rooney's not going anywhere IMO. He doesn't like it? Tough. Man Utd own him now.
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Come on the re signing only grantees that you max out his sell value if he or the team want out.
Chelsea will pay that mata money back
Chelsea will pay that mata money back
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rooney on a long term contract to a rival is going to cost chelsea a fair whack if they want him, if they offer it i'd sell.
it wasnt that long ago that rvn was clear and away our best striker, yet when we got rid of him we became a better team. the team on paper isnt always the best on the pitch and we clearly have problems of not being able to play any of our 10's because rooney hogs that position. we have looked a much better team with mata/kagawa in that position.
other thing i think should be considered is i dont think rooney will age well, he doesn't look after himself well of the pitch and his game is all about industry and legs. the first thing to go with age.
50 mil plus for a 28 year old is a good deal even if it is to a rival. remember a certain mr torres doing similar and it didnt work out well for chelsea
either way i cant see it happening but thats my thoughts if it does
it wasnt that long ago that rvn was clear and away our best striker, yet when we got rid of him we became a better team. the team on paper isnt always the best on the pitch and we clearly have problems of not being able to play any of our 10's because rooney hogs that position. we have looked a much better team with mata/kagawa in that position.
other thing i think should be considered is i dont think rooney will age well, he doesn't look after himself well of the pitch and his game is all about industry and legs. the first thing to go with age.
50 mil plus for a 28 year old is a good deal even if it is to a rival. remember a certain mr torres doing similar and it didnt work out well for chelsea
either way i cant see it happening but thats my thoughts if it does
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Manchester United fear that Wayne Rooney has suffered another injury setback after the striker limped out of training on Thursday and was immediately sent to have a scan.
It is unclear if the problem is connected with the injury Rooney suffered in the Champions League tie against Bayern Munich at Old Trafford a month ago when he chipped a bone in his foot and required a painkilling injection to play in the return leg in Germany.
United will assess the 28-year-old's condition on Friday before deciding if he can face Sunderland at home this weekend.
It is unclear if the problem is connected with the injury Rooney suffered in the Champions League tie against Bayern Munich at Old Trafford a month ago when he chipped a bone in his foot and required a painkilling injection to play in the return leg in Germany.
United will assess the 28-year-old's condition on Friday before deciding if he can face Sunderland at home this weekend.
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Should be rested till the end of the season so he's fully fit for England in my view. Give Hernandez and Welbeck a run of games and hopefully RVP if he's back from injury.
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what!!!
thats our(England's problem) not uniteds.
thats our(England's problem) not uniteds.
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Also heard we're back in for Fabregas. Barca fans and the club don't seem to want him there any more and i'd think they'd aprt for 25m. I know Arsenal have first refusal which is annoying, but I don't necessarily think he'd go back to Arsenal after seeing how a return to a club he once played for has gone. Not always a fairytale ending. Also a chance to link up with RVP again.
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mystiroakey wrote:what!!!
thats our(England's problem) not uniteds.
What's the point in playing him when not 100% fit? he's always played poor when not 100% and when we have NOTHING to play for then I don't see the point, especially when we're well covered in the forward department.
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Mysti I have to pull you up over the comment on Cavani not being worth £30m, this season he's played out of position for Ibra and has still scored 26 goals this season, only Messi and Ronaldo have scored more than him in any of the top leagues in Europe over the course of the past four seasons with 145 goals and that was in the notoriously hard Serie A, this season the top scorer has 21 goals, last season Cavani got 29 in the league.
Yes for Utd it'd be a lot of their budget that they are probably strongest in but he is a quality forward.
Yes for Utd it'd be a lot of their budget that they are probably strongest in but he is a quality forward.
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Liam wrote:Also heard we're back in for Fabregas. Barca fans and the club don't seem to want him there any more and i'd think they'd aprt for 25m. I know Arsenal have first refusal which is annoying, but I don't necessarily think he'd go back to Arsenal after seeing how a return to a club he once played for has gone. Not always a fairytale ending. Also a chance to link up with RVP again.
Unnecessary luxury player IMO. I don't think he's needed at Utd.
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Liam wrote:mystiroakey wrote:what!!!
thats our(England's problem) not uniteds.
What's the point in playing him when not 100% fit? he's always played poor when not 100% and when we have NOTHING to play for then I don't see the point, especially when we're well covered in the forward department.
i agree- man u- plaese dont play him.
just shocked that it might actually affect englands world cup.
hero- yeah you may be right- but thats the last player united need surely. you cant have too many big ego forwards in your team - it doesn't work
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The Special Juan wrote:Liam wrote:Also heard we're back in for Fabregas. Barca fans and the club don't seem to want him there any more and i'd think they'd aprt for 25m. I know Arsenal have first refusal which is annoying, but I don't necessarily think he'd go back to Arsenal after seeing how a return to a club he once played for has gone. Not always a fairytale ending. Also a chance to link up with RVP again.
Unnecessary luxury player IMO. I don't think he's needed at Utd.
Hardly, he's world class midfielder, exactly what we need who will provide goals and assists
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Oh I agree on the point that if you've got a budget of say 100m that to throw at least half of it on a player that is in the position you're strongest in is utter madness, but the lad is still a world class player. For me Utd need to being going for Hummels, Shaw, Strootman and one of Kroos/Carvalho.
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obviously with van gaal coming that could really help you with strootman.
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Liam wrote:The Special Juan wrote:Liam wrote:Also heard we're back in for Fabregas. Barca fans and the club don't seem to want him there any more and i'd think they'd aprt for 25m. I know Arsenal have first refusal which is annoying, but I don't necessarily think he'd go back to Arsenal after seeing how a return to a club he once played for has gone. Not always a fairytale ending. Also a chance to link up with RVP again.
Unnecessary luxury player IMO. I don't think he's needed at Utd.
Hardly, he's world class midfielder, exactly what we need who will provide goals and assists
But Mata's exactly that and was called an unnecessary luxury.
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Fabregas would be a ludicrous signing, you've got sign in positions of need ffs
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matic was an ideal buy for chelsea- toure ideal for citeh
arsernal play a style that doesnt particualry need the big man in the middle- United do.
rooney and mata can both play well in number ten- welbeck rvp and rooney are great forwards.
wings is a funny one- but junazi and zaha have potential- young isnt that bad as a back up, what ever others say.
its obvious what united need - its finidng him- a world class CM- not another striker and not another no 10.
arsernal play a style that doesnt particualry need the big man in the middle- United do.
rooney and mata can both play well in number ten- welbeck rvp and rooney are great forwards.
wings is a funny one- but junazi and zaha have potential- young isnt that bad as a back up, what ever others say.
its obvious what united need - its finidng him- a world class CM- not another striker and not another no 10.
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Carvalho or Strootman ideally for that role for me. Both strong players that can take the game by the scruff of the neck. Carvalho is the closest there is in the game to Viera and so badly what Utd need whilst Strootman is often referred to as the new Keane. Bring in those pair and Utd would finally have a spine which is something they've not had for several seasons.
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Fabregas would be a great signing. You'll have one player deeper than him, then Fabregas as the link who joins from there and works both ends of the pitch.
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Priority signings first dolph.
you need that spine.
a Strong CM and a Seriously good central defender second(rio and vidic are over)- then maybe you can think about the wings, then maybe fabregas..
you need that spine.
a Strong CM and a Seriously good central defender second(rio and vidic are over)- then maybe you can think about the wings, then maybe fabregas..
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Of course, but I don't expect them to work one by one. If he comes in first it won't be cos he's prioritise, its because that deal is finished first.
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yep well luckily they look to have allready secured van gaal so its not like they are taking there time over it.
I think it was Ent that couldnt see Gaal being any better than any other to snap up dutch players but i disagree- I think strootman will be coming
I think it was Ent that couldnt see Gaal being any better than any other to snap up dutch players but i disagree- I think strootman will be coming
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id be delighted if be signed fabregas, he's a CM who can do it all, defend and attack. think people are reading too much into his barca time to say he's purely a number 10. at arsenal he did it all. only have to loo at yaya to see that barca dont always get the best out of midfielders they have there
a ball winner with cesc next to him with mata in the 10 would be a great midfield.
a ball winner with cesc next to him with mata in the 10 would be a great midfield.
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To be honest, if Fabregas wasn't interested a year ago when United had CL football, its hard to see him interested now. Arsenal would probably be his #1 choice, then City I'd imagine from PL sides. PSG and Inter would probably also be in.
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cant see how city need him, there pretty set there. also looks like psg and city may have to reign in there spending now
we can blow arsenal out of the water with wages and again are arsenal really in need of that position?
we have more pull than inter im sure of that, poor team in a terrible league and no CL pull either
we can blow arsenal out of the water with wages and again are arsenal really in need of that position?
we have more pull than inter im sure of that, poor team in a terrible league and no CL pull either
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Fabregas loves Wenger.
To be brutally honest I don't think you really can blow Arsenal out the water. And they have first option.
To be brutally honest I don't think you really can blow Arsenal out the water. And they have first option.
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GSC wrote:Fabregas loves Wenger.
To be brutally honest I don't think you really can blow Arsenal out the water. And they have first option.
it may have changed with the signing of ozil but arsenal have always had a low highest earner compared to other top teams. there wage bill was always so high because they offered all there youngsters very high wages across the board.
we have had a one year blip under moyes, i still think were a better option to go to for a player who wants to win trophies than arsenal under wenger. cesc having played over here will know that. stick cesc in our Midfield and we have a much better team than arsenal
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As stated, I doubt Ozils cheap after a 40m fee. A lot of deadwood like Bendtner will be leaving.
Tbh, no. Arsenal a lot stronger in defense and midfield even with Fabregas.
Tbh, no. Arsenal a lot stronger in defense and midfield even with Fabregas.
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GSC wrote:As stated, I doubt Ozils cheap after a 40m fee. A lot of deadwood like Bendtner will be leaving.
Tbh, no. Arsenal a lot stronger in defense and midfield even with Fabregas.
we'll see, id argue GK, defence, dont rate mert and sanga, and gibbs there only decent LB is always injured. midfield i cant argue with but like i say there wouldn't be much in it with cesc in our line up. and obviously we blow them out of the water in attack
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Mertesacker and Koscielnys pairing blow Uniteds out of the water really. FBs are servicable enough, and Sagnas off.
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If I was a United supporter, I'd want some power back into the core or spine of the side. Cesc is a good player but physically he's not strong, he's also very slow. Depends upon who you partnered him with, play him alongside Fellaini & you would be over-run it would be embarrassing. You want Mata in that 10 role but where does Rooney go? Many questions need answering, many positions need filling, especially in defence & your new manager will be busy until after the WC.
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Aussie newspaper in a case of mistaken identity regarding United's new manager.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/louis-van-gaal-appointment-meet-manchester-uniteds-new-managerharold-bishop-9316930.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/louis-van-gaal-appointment-meet-manchester-uniteds-new-managerharold-bishop-9316930.html
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GSC wrote:Fabregas loves Wenger.
To be brutally honest I don't think you really can blow Arsenal out the water. And they have first option.
Cesc is one of the few players that Arsene would fork out for and with the belts loosning if he could id expect he will regardless of wages we could afford him now with the deadwood gone.
Also whilst United don't need him like Ozil if someone of that quality is available you buy regardless. If Ribery/Robben came available would Chelsea go well we have Hazard/Willian etc so we don't need him **** no they would fork out 40m happily.
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Riberys poop tho
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Yet he got 3rd place in Ballon D'or somehow but was an Example anyway
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Seriously though, can't remember watching him play well
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I think if Cesc is available we should go all out for him, because unlike last summer where Cesc was too frightened of letting the barca fans down to move, there's a real possibility of signing him with the fans and the board seemingly have ran out of patience with him.
He's a creative, box to box midfielder and would be a great buy for us. Sign a holding, athletic and powerful midfielder to play alongside him al la Carvalho/Strootman and we've finally got a fantastic midfield partnership not seen since Keane and Scholes.
He's a creative, box to box midfielder and would be a great buy for us. Sign a holding, athletic and powerful midfielder to play alongside him al la Carvalho/Strootman and we've finally got a fantastic midfield partnership not seen since Keane and Scholes.
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I'll get pelters for this but IMO, Ribery's just a really, really, really good version of Milner. Puts in a shift, does his job, scores and sets up goals but doesn't ever look like taking the game by the scruff of the neck the way the very best can.
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midfield of
cesc - holding midfielder we hopefully sign (if not carrick)
mata
that midfield is right up there with the best in the league. balance is the issue if we dont sign a athletic CM as its not exactly the quickest out there with carrick
all if and buts at the moment but i think we'd be crazy not to go after cesc if he's available
cesc - holding midfielder we hopefully sign (if not carrick)
mata
that midfield is right up there with the best in the league. balance is the issue if we dont sign a athletic CM as its not exactly the quickest out there with carrick
all if and buts at the moment but i think we'd be crazy not to go after cesc if he's available
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The Special Juan wrote:I'll get pelters for this but IMO, Ribery's just a really, really, really good version of Milner. Puts in a shift, does his job, scores and sets up goals but doesn't ever look like taking the game by the scruff of the neck the way the very best can.
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whenever ive watched ribery he hasnt exactly impressed me, robben normally outshines him more often than not. dont think he even third best player at bayern let alone the world!! rubbish token gesture to put a bayern player in because of the season they had.
id rather have lahm, kroos, robben and schweinsteiger over ribery
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i also thought gotze and lewandowski had better seasons than ribery that year for dortmund.
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On another position we need a signing, Garay was again very good against Juventus and I think now finally, this is the summer we should and probably will get him. He's got good european experience under his belt and would be an excellent signing to play alongside any 1 of evans/jones/smalling
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Liam wrote:On another position we need a signing, Garay was again very good against Juventus and I think now finally, this is the summer we should and probably will get him. He's got good european experience under his belt and would be an excellent signing to play alongside any 1 of evans/jones/smalling
think it will help smalling and jones to have a cb who can play it out from the back for them as that isnt there strength. evans has improved in this alot
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Evans is a very underrated defender imo. Has a good yard of pace, reads the game well and like you said, brings the ball out of defence very to good effect. He'd be my starting cb for next season alongside, if he comes, Garay.
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