MEP Elections

by Trebs Thu 01 May 2014, 10:10 am

First topic message reminder :

It's the European Parliament Elections on May 22nd, with UKIP hoping to gain the most seats after second place last time out, with Labour and Liberal Democrats looking to hold onto their seats.

But, does anyone care? Only one in three people voted in the last elections, but there seems to be more of a media interest, especially with the TV debates between Nigel Farage and Nick Clegg, which if you haven't seen are worth a watch. Could it be argued that by Labour and Conservatives not showing to the debates, that UKIP and LibDem will gain?

It seems that this year, there will be a higher turnout but will it be a significant amount? UKIP are certainly a more real opposition and will surely gain seats, with the opinion polls showing UKIP are likely to win.

by Champagne_Socialist Tue 20 May 2014, 5:27 pm

skyeman wrote:It will be too late to save London once the full restrictions are lifted in a few months. Gov figures estimate 50,000 Romanians per year for five years.

Going to cost a fortune.

I think you are reading an old newspaper....

Just stick to bashing the EU and then voting for a pro-EU party...

by skyeman Tue 20 May 2014, 5:40 pm

The information is from the Met Police Freedom of Information release. Free for all to see. Walking down the Champs Elysees last year certainly was an eye opener. Poor Oxford and Regent St.

by Rowley Tue 20 May 2014, 5:41 pm

Duty281 wrote:Never fear, Rowley, Azania isn't here!

I find it almost charmingly amusing you all genuinely cling to the belief Az was cause of all the issues on here.

by Champagne_Socialist Tue 20 May 2014, 5:42 pm

skyeman wrote:The information is from the Met Police Freedom of Information release. Free for all to see. Walking down the Champs Elysees last year certainly was an eye opener. Poor Oxford and Regent St.

So tell me these stats. How many were chrged and for what crime?

by Steffan Tue 20 May 2014, 5:45 pm

I heard 606v2 are now setting up a 'Right-wing rant' section for some of the members on here

by skyeman Tue 20 May 2014, 5:53 pm

Stores on the Champs selling a mans wallet for 2000 euros. I kid you not Shocked

And outside scamming and begging. The whole way down. Stopped three times in twenty minutes by scammers. It put me off walking the stretch again, but is all over Paris now.

by skyeman Tue 20 May 2014, 6:01 pm

All connected to the EU which was a good idea to start off with but has now become an headless chicken. Time to leave.

by Champagne_Socialist Tue 20 May 2014, 6:02 pm

skyeman wrote:All connected to the EU which was a good idea to start off with but has now become an headless chicken. Time to leave.

yet you are voting for the most pro-eu party in the UK at the general election next year picard

by Duty281 Tue 20 May 2014, 6:04 pm

Rowley wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Never fear, Rowley, Azania isn't here!

I find it almost charmingly amusing you all genuinely cling to the belief Az was cause of all the issues on here.

Well it seems alot more pleasant these days without him.

by Dave. Tue 20 May 2014, 6:19 pm

There was a debate on UTV last night. A lot of talk on CAP.

All down to transfers really.

by skyeman Tue 20 May 2014, 6:34 pm

Farage was right in 2009 about social and political problems to come in this EU Parliament video because the then PM would not listen to the people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VUFdVkAsU0Q

by Champagne_Socialist Tue 20 May 2014, 6:40 pm

Steffan wrote:I heard 606v2 are now setting up a 'Right-wing rant' section for some of the members on here

Seems that way

by Champagne_Socialist Tue 20 May 2014, 6:47 pm

Duty281 wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Race is largely defined by biological traits; these days, we generally define race by the colour of someone's skin.

Of course, really, there is no fixed definition for race, and it is certainly something that has become confused over time, and "racism" is a largely overused "ism" in the 21st century.

So based on your own opinion you wouldn't describe hitler's actions of rounding up millions of Jews and gassing them to death purely because they were Jews as racist?

What would you describe the act as? Do you think it would have been worse if Hitler had decided to round up 6 million black people and gas them because they were black or round up 6 million romanian people and gas them purely for being romanian instead of gassing 6 million jews for being jewish? Or do you think it has the same catastrophic effect?

You claim that the term racism involving not only skin colour but nationality and religion is a sign of how PC this country has become but the fact of the matter is that no matter the discrimination (colour/religion/nationality) they each can be equally as bad as each other and so your complaint that they should not all come under the tab of racism is unfounded. It doesn't matter if one should technically be called xenophobia or islamophobia or racism etc if they can be equally as bad then the term used to describe that discrimination is irrelevant.

If you asked an average guy on the street what his views would be to killing someone because of their skin colour he would say it is wrong or killing someone because of their religion he would say it is wrong and killing someone because of their nationality he would say it is wrong. It is not Political correctness to hold the opinion that the killing based on nationality/colour/religion is wrong and they all can be equally as wrong as each other so labelling them all as racism rather than xenophobia or islamophobia etc is not political correctness because if they were seperate criminal offences of islamophobia or xenophobia or racism they would each carry the same maximum sentence. The term racism has just evolved to include all types of discrimination rather than having 5 different words to label each different discrimination as.

I believe the term for what Hitler did to millions of Jews is "anti-semitism"; however, there is no doubt Hitler was a racist as he believed in the Aryans being the master race.

Whilst I would agree that xenophobia/racism are equally bad, the words carry two different meanings and, as such, it dilutes their meaning when you stretch the definitions.

Not quiote sure what you are arguing is political correctness? You stated that discrimination based on xenophobia/racism etc are equally as bad so what are you actually complaining about? The word used to describe such an act? it is just a word and words evolve all the time and the word racism has evolved to include religion/nationality. Even Nigel Farage admitted this when he stated that he was attacked in Scotland due to racism against him because he is English.....

by skyeman Tue 20 May 2014, 6:48 pm

Steffan wrote:I heard 606v2 are now setting up a 'Right-wing rant' section for some of the members on here

Arrrr

I saw the rant you had with Duty on the football page. Keep it there please.

by skyeman Tue 20 May 2014, 6:56 pm

Dave. wrote:There was a debate on UTV last night. A lot of talk on CAP.

All down to transfers really.

The EU are causing big problems in this area, not just for Irish farmers but all over Europe. Many farmers going out of business.

by Duty281 Tue 20 May 2014, 7:00 pm

skyeman wrote:
Steffan wrote:I heard 606v2 are now setting up a 'Right-wing rant' section for some of the members on here

Arrrr I saw the rant you had with Duty on the football page. Keep it there please.

I'm a teenager, I have no idea what his excuse is. laughing

by skyeman Tue 20 May 2014, 7:04 pm

Duty281 wrote:
skyeman wrote:
Steffan wrote:I heard 606v2 are now setting up a 'Right-wing rant' section for some of the members on here

Arrrr I saw the rant you had with Duty on the football page. Keep it there please.

I'm a teenager, I have no idea what his excuse is.

by Duty281 Tue 20 May 2014, 7:06 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Race is largely defined by biological traits; these days, we generally define race by the colour of someone's skin.

Of course, really, there is no fixed definition for race, and it is certainly something that has become confused over time, and "racism" is a largely overused "ism" in the 21st century.

So based on your own opinion you wouldn't describe hitler's actions of rounding up millions of Jews and gassing them to death purely because they were Jews as racist?

What would you describe the act as? Do you think it would have been worse if Hitler had decided to round up 6 million black people and gas them because they were black or round up 6 million romanian people and gas them purely for being romanian instead of gassing 6 million jews for being jewish? Or do you think it has the same catastrophic effect?

You claim that the term racism involving not only skin colour but nationality and religion is a sign of how PC this country has become but the fact of the matter is that no matter the discrimination (colour/religion/nationality) they each can be equally as bad as each other and so your complaint that they should not all come under the tab of racism is unfounded. It doesn't matter if one should technically be called xenophobia or islamophobia or racism etc if they can be equally as bad then the term used to describe that discrimination is irrelevant.

If you asked an average guy on the street what his views would be to killing someone because of their skin colour he would say it is wrong or killing someone because of their religion he would say it is wrong and killing someone because of their nationality he would say it is wrong. It is not Political correctness to hold the opinion that the killing based on nationality/colour/religion is wrong and they all can be equally as wrong as each other so labelling them all as racism rather than xenophobia or islamophobia etc is not political correctness because if they were seperate criminal offences of islamophobia or xenophobia or racism they would each carry the same maximum sentence. The term racism has just evolved to include all types of discrimination rather than having 5 different words to label each different discrimination as.

I believe the term for what Hitler did to millions of Jews is "anti-semitism"; however, there is no doubt Hitler was a racist as he believed in the Aryans being the master race.

Whilst I would agree that xenophobia/racism are equally bad, the words carry two different meanings and, as such, it dilutes their meaning when you stretch the definitions.

Not quiote sure what you are arguing is political correctness? You stated that discrimination based on xenophobia/racism etc are equally as bad so what are you actually complaining about? The word used to describe such an act? it is just a word and words evolve all the time and the word racism has evolved to include religion/nationality. Even Nigel Farage admitted this when he stated that he was attacked in Scotland due to racism against him because he is English.....

Political correctness means that the race card is often overplayed, thus diluting the severity of a rather abhorrent offence.

by Champagne_Socialist Tue 20 May 2014, 7:06 pm

Duty281 wrote:
skyeman wrote:
Steffan wrote:I heard 606v2 are now setting up a 'Right-wing rant' section for some of the members on here

Arrrr I saw the rant you had with Duty on the football page. Keep it there please.

I'm a teenager, I have no idea what his excuse is.

When I was about 12 I had the same body as you......

Head on over to the weighlifting section it can really help you out, some good tips on there.

by Champagne_Socialist Tue 20 May 2014, 7:07 pm

Duty281 wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Race is largely defined by biological traits; these days, we generally define race by the colour of someone's skin.

Of course, really, there is no fixed definition for race, and it is certainly something that has become confused over time, and "racism" is a largely overused "ism" in the 21st century.

So based on your own opinion you wouldn't describe hitler's actions of rounding up millions of Jews and gassing them to death purely because they were Jews as racist?

What would you describe the act as? Do you think it would have been worse if Hitler had decided to round up 6 million black people and gas them because they were black or round up 6 million romanian people and gas them purely for being romanian instead of gassing 6 million jews for being jewish? Or do you think it has the same catastrophic effect?

You claim that the term racism involving not only skin colour but nationality and religion is a sign of how PC this country has become but the fact of the matter is that no matter the discrimination (colour/religion/nationality) they each can be equally as bad as each other and so your complaint that they should not all come under the tab of racism is unfounded. It doesn't matter if one should technically be called xenophobia or islamophobia or racism etc if they can be equally as bad then the term used to describe that discrimination is irrelevant.

If you asked an average guy on the street what his views would be to killing someone because of their skin colour he would say it is wrong or killing someone because of their religion he would say it is wrong and killing someone because of their nationality he would say it is wrong. It is not Political correctness to hold the opinion that the killing based on nationality/colour/religion is wrong and they all can be equally as wrong as each other so labelling them all as racism rather than xenophobia or islamophobia etc is not political correctness because if they were seperate criminal offences of islamophobia or xenophobia or racism they would each carry the same maximum sentence. The term racism has just evolved to include all types of discrimination rather than having 5 different words to label each different discrimination as.

I believe the term for what Hitler did to millions of Jews is "anti-semitism"; however, there is no doubt Hitler was a racist as he believed in the Aryans being the master race.

Whilst I would agree that xenophobia/racism are equally bad, the words carry two different meanings and, as such, it dilutes their meaning when you stretch the definitions.

Not quiote sure what you are arguing is political correctness? You stated that discrimination based on xenophobia/racism etc are equally as bad so what are you actually complaining about? The word used to describe such an act? it is just a word and words evolve all the time and the word racism has evolved to include religion/nationality. Even Nigel Farage admitted this when he stated that he was attacked in Scotland due to racism against him because he is English.....

Political correctness means that the race card is often overplayed, thus diluting the severity of a rather abhorrent offence.

I understaand what it means I just find it strange you are bringing up PC when discussing whether comments like farage's against Romanians was needed.

by skyeman Tue 20 May 2014, 7:10 pm

This made me smile. He never even knew about the Vatican tradition picard

A Labour MP has apologised for claiming the BBC made a "silly innuendo about the race" of the next Pontiff.

David Lammy was commenting on a BBC Twitter message, which asked "will smoke be black or white?".

Mr Lammy, tweeting from the Commons chamber, said the BBC message was "crass and unnecessary".

He later apologised after Twitter users pointed out the role played by black and white smoke in announcing the election of a new Pope

by Duty281 Tue 20 May 2014, 7:10 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
skyeman wrote:
Steffan wrote:I heard 606v2 are now setting up a 'Right-wing rant' section for some of the members on here

Arrrr I saw the rant you had with Duty on the football page. Keep it there please.

I'm a teenager, I have no idea what his excuse is.

When I was about 12 I had the same body as you......

Head on over to the weighlifting section it can really help you out, some good tips on there.

Sorry....you've completely lost me.

by Dave. Tue 20 May 2014, 7:11 pm

Thanks for that Skype (I take it you are from Skye?) The CAP is really the height of debate on Europe in NI, along with the traditional stuff such as flegs.

Ukip are standing here, but the TUV and DUP also want out. UUP and Conservatives want a referendum on the matter. Alliance, NI21, Greens, SDLP and SF all want to stay in.

by Champagne_Socialist Tue 20 May 2014, 7:15 pm

Duty281 wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
skyeman wrote:
Steffan wrote:I heard 606v2 are now setting up a 'Right-wing rant' section for some of the members on here

Arrrr I saw the rant you had with Duty on the football page. Keep it there please.

I'm a teenager, I have no idea what his excuse is.

When I was about 12 I had the same body as you......

Head on over to the weighlifting section it can really help you out, some good tips on there.

Sorry....you've completely lost me.

You are an advocate for for hard tackles and think the game has become too weak so I only assume you want to bulk up as well so perhaps you could change your diet or sign up to a gym. Might take 6-9 months but you can improve.

by skyeman Tue 20 May 2014, 7:17 pm

Dave. wrote:Thanks for that Skype (I take it you are from Skye?) The CAP is really the height of debate on Europe in NI, along with the traditional stuff such as flegs.

Ukip are standing here, but the TUV and DUP also want out. UUP and Conservatives want a referendum on the matter. Alliance, NI21, Greens, SDLP and SF all want to stay in.

Aye, married to a Skye lass but originally from Kent.

Just really want to be given the choice of a referendum and no more lies. Before it is to late and the EU royally screws everyone.

by Duty281 Tue 20 May 2014, 7:19 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
skyeman wrote:
Steffan wrote:I heard 606v2 are now setting up a 'Right-wing rant' section for some of the members on here

Arrrr I saw the rant you had with Duty on the football page. Keep it there please.

I'm a teenager, I have no idea what his excuse is.

When I was about 12 I had the same body as you......

Head on over to the weighlifting section it can really help you out, some good tips on there.

Sorry....you've completely lost me.

You are an advocate for for hard tackles and think the game has become too weak so I only assume you want to bulk up as well so perhaps you could change your diet or sign up to a gym. Might take 6-9 months but you can improve.

Nah..much prefer being thin.

by Rowley Tue 20 May 2014, 7:45 pm

Duty281 wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
skyeman wrote:
Steffan wrote:I heard 606v2 are now setting up a 'Right-wing rant' section for some of the members on here

Arrrr I saw the rant you had with Duty on the football page. Keep it there please.

I'm a teenager, I have no idea what his excuse is.

When I was about 12 I had the same body as you......

Head on over to the weighlifting section it can really help you out, some good tips on there.

Sorry....you've completely lost me.

I think you are being groomed.

by skyeman Tue 20 May 2014, 7:54 pm

Rowley wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
skyeman wrote:
Steffan wrote:I heard 606v2 are now setting up a 'Right-wing rant' section for some of the members on here

Arrrr I saw the rant you had with Duty on the football page. Keep it there please.

I'm a teenager, I have no idea what his excuse is.

When I was about 12 I had the same body as you......

Head on over to the weighlifting section it can really help you out, some good tips on there.

Sorry....you've completely lost me.

I think you are being groomed.

by Champagne_Socialist Tue 20 May 2014, 8:00 pm

Rowley wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
skyeman wrote:
Steffan wrote:I heard 606v2 are now setting up a 'Right-wing rant' section for some of the members on here

Arrrr I saw the rant you had with Duty on the football page. Keep it there please.

I'm a teenager, I have no idea what his excuse is.

When I was about 12 I had the same body as you......

Head on over to the weighlifting section it can really help you out, some good tips on there.

Sorry....you've completely lost me.

I think you are being groomed.

You spoiled my plan steam

Is anyone else as excited as me about the hour long Eastenders episode that is about to be on tv?

by Duty281 Tue 20 May 2014, 9:03 pm

Just watched the hour long Eastenders episode.

Never quite laughed so hard in all my life; the BBC are better at comedy when they don't advertise it as such.

by skyeman Tue 20 May 2014, 9:09 pm

Duty281 wrote:Just watched the hour long Eastenders episode.

Never quite laughed so hard in all my life; the BBC are better at comedy when they don't advertise it as such.

Did they talk about the EU Very Happy

by Steffan Tue 20 May 2014, 9:10 pm

So who whacked that Ian Beales daughter then? Not that I care...honest

by Champagne_Socialist Tue 20 May 2014, 9:11 pm

Duty281 wrote:Just watched the hour long Eastenders episode.

Never quite laughed so hard in all my life; the BBC are better at comedy when they don't advertise it as such.

I'm trying to get a petition together to get the BBC to make an Eastenders movie, I am sure it would be a success.

by Champagne_Socialist Tue 20 May 2014, 9:12 pm

Steffan wrote:So who whacked that Ian Beales daughter then? Not that I care...honest

my money is on Ben Mitchell

by Duty281 Tue 20 May 2014, 9:14 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Just watched the hour long Eastenders episode.

Never quite laughed so hard in all my life; the BBC are better at comedy when they don't advertise it as such.

I'm trying to get a petition together to get the BBC to make an Eastenders movie, I am sure it would be a success.

If it's a remake of Brokeback Mountain with Peter and Johnny the only ones in it*, then yes, it will be a success.

*And if you can squeeze in Danny Dyer's character, and David as well, so much the better.

by Steffan Tue 20 May 2014, 9:16 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Steffan wrote:So who whacked that Ian Beales daughter then? Not that I care...honest

my money is on Ben Mitchell

Hasnt he killed someone before though? If he has would be too obvious choice

by Champagne_Socialist Tue 20 May 2014, 9:17 pm

Is anyone as impressed with Danny Dyer's acting as I am? He has shown just how good an actor he is with his role in Eastenders. Some very moving scenes involving him and his father.

by Duty281 Tue 20 May 2014, 9:18 pm

skyeman wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Just watched the hour long Eastenders episode.

Never quite laughed so hard in all my life; the BBC are better at comedy when they don't advertise it as such.

Did they talk about the EU

Sadly, no.

I thought Ian would have loved to have talked about the ins and outs of EU membership to take his mind off his daughter being murdered. laughing

by Champagne_Socialist Tue 20 May 2014, 9:20 pm

Steffan wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Steffan wrote:So who whacked that Ian Beales daughter then? Not that I care...honest

my money is on Ben Mitchell
Hasnt he killed someone before though? If he has would be too obvious choice

Well he was in prison for murder and Phil wanted to go to prison to meet him because phil saw how upset ian was after losing his daughter (lucy). Phil then found out Ben had been released from prison a month before but didn't know where he went after that. We then found out that Jay had met Ben so Ben is somehwere near Walford and could have been in walford at the time of lucy's murder.

by skyeman Tue 20 May 2014, 9:23 pm

Duty281 wrote:
skyeman wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Just watched the hour long Eastenders episode.

Never quite laughed so hard in all my life; the BBC are better at comedy when they don't advertise it as such.

Did they talk about the EU

Sadly, no.

I thought Ian would have loved to have talked about the ins and outs of EU membership to take his mind off his daughter being murdered.

Never watch it. But i bet Merkel and Hollande did it, the King and Queen of Europe. Dirty gits. Smile

by Volcanicash Tue 20 May 2014, 10:48 pm

rodders wrote:
Volcanicash wrote:Regarding Ukip I sometimes wonder before people accuse them of being racist do they really investigate those claims or do they simply jump on a bandwagon of opinion?

I know a few prospective councillors have said 1 or 2 things, but does this equate to the overall party being racist? I don't think so. And if some use this logic would they apply that to other groups and situations, like would you regard all muslims as terrorists? I certainly hope not.

That's a nonsensical statement. Islam is a religion, UKIP is a political organisation - one with xenophobic and racist policies. That doesn't make everyone who votes for them a conscious racist, many are just misguided and misinformed or looking to make a statement to the mainstream parties.

A better analogy would have been to compare UKIP to the Taliban. Do I believe everyone involved with the Taliban is a terrorist or terrorist supporter? - yes, either that or they are brainwashed or afraid not to. UKIP aren't a million miles away in my opinion.

It wasn’t a statement I was questioning how some people form their opinions of ukip and I was suggesting that it would be ludicrous to base them on the rhetoric of a couple of candidates/councillors as representive of their whole agenda. Using the muslim/terrorist example I believe to be a reasonable analogy, as of course I think they’re both nonsensical.

I’m not saying this is the case that people do this, but as someone who doesn’t share this view(and I like to think I’m a fairly openminded person) because I have yet to see any substantial evidence for it it does make me question how some people base there views. And reading some of the views of posters on this thread like your good self my mind hasn't changed.

by skyeman Tue 20 May 2014, 11:10 pm

This is the problem, i would say from what was quoted on a politics show this week, of UKIP's supporters 50% from Con, 16% from Lab, 4% from Lib, 10% from others and 20% from voters that do not normally vote.

So these name calling types are calling tens of thousands from their own party all sorts of things, thus making their own parties racist.

Stupid, when you think about it.

The 20% is the interesting one for me, what is suddenly getting them to vote?

by Champagne_Socialist Tue 20 May 2014, 11:33 pm

Alyn Smith- SNP MEP

The SNP and myself are pro-European. We want to see Scotland, as an independent country, take her seat at the top table in Europe as a full member state.

Skyeman is Anti-EU yet he is voting for the most PRO-EU party in the UK and then he has the cheek to demand a referendum. If you want a referendum vote for an anti-EU party not a pro one picard

by Champagne_Socialist Tue 20 May 2014, 11:39 pm

Volcanicash wrote:
rodders wrote:
Volcanicash wrote:Regarding Ukip I sometimes wonder before people accuse them of being racist do they really investigate those claims or do they simply jump on a bandwagon of opinion?

I know a few prospective councillors have said 1 or 2 things, but does this equate to the overall party being racist? I don't think so. And if some use this logic would they apply that to other groups and situations, like would you regard all muslims as terrorists? I certainly hope not.

That's a nonsensical statement. Islam is a religion, UKIP is a political organisation - one with xenophobic and racist policies. That doesn't make everyone who votes for them a conscious racist, many are just misguided and misinformed or looking to make a statement to the mainstream parties.

A better analogy would have been to compare UKIP to the Taliban. Do I believe everyone involved with the Taliban is a terrorist or terrorist supporter? - yes, either that or they are brainwashed or afraid not to. UKIP aren't a million miles away in my opinion.

It wasn’t a statement I was questioning how some people form their opinions of ukip and I was suggesting that it would be ludicrous to base them on the rhetoric of a couple of candidates/councillors as representive of their whole agenda. Using the muslim/terrorist example I believe to be a reasonable analogy, as of course I think they’re both nonsensical.

I’m not saying this is the case that people do this, but as someone who doesn’t share this view(and I like to think I’m a fairly openminded person) because I have yet to see any substantial evidence for it it does make me question how some people base there views. And reading some of the views of posters on this thread like your good self my mind hasn't changed.

Who will you be voting for?

by TopHat24/7 Wed 21 May 2014, 9:25 am

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
skyeman wrote:
Steffan wrote:I heard 606v2 are now setting up a 'Right-wing rant' section for some of the members on here

Arrrr I saw the rant you had with Duty on the football page. Keep it there please.

I'm a teenager, I have no idea what his excuse is.

When I was about 12 I had the same body as you......

Head on over to the weighlifting section it can really help you out, some good tips on there.

Yeh, but my dad's bigger than your dad...... picard

by skyeman Wed 21 May 2014, 9:43 am

Patriotic British born black UKIP candidate in Croydon yesterday barracked by white far left thugs - you could not make it up.

Not sure someone standing as a candidate should have called Croydon a dump though, even if all he meant was this is what LibLabCon have turned the place into over the years.

by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 21 May 2014, 9:55 am

Any Labour person voting UKIP will be too stupid to notice anyone calling them...

by skyeman Wed 21 May 2014, 10:03 am

Watched Newsnight last night.The Rotherham item. Could not believe what i was hearing from some of the Labour supporters.

"Labour do nothing for us anymore" But because generations have voted Labour, we have to vote Labour.

by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 21 May 2014, 10:12 am

Not surprising....We were brought up as Kennedy Democrats and it is considered heresy to vote Republican..

If your Mum and Dad vote for something you may feel like you've let them down If you turn your back...

by skyeman Wed 21 May 2014, 10:20 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Not surprising....We were brought up as Kennedy Democrats and it is considered heresy to vote Republican..

If your Mum and Dad vote for something you may feel like you've let them down If you turn your back...

True for some in all parties i agree. It was more the disillutionment they had with Labour now but what could they do. Apart from note vote Smile

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