RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May

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Glasgow Warriors v Munster Rugby

Friday 16 May 2014, KO: 19:35
Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow

Live on BBC ALBA/TG4/SC4

Referee: Marius Mitrea (FIR, 29th competition game)
Assistant Referees: Giuseppe Vivarini, Stefano Penne (both FIR)
Citing Commissioner: Dennis Jones (WRU)
TMO: Carlo Damasco (FIR)

A. Teams:

I. Glasgow

15. Peter Murchie
14. Sean Maitland
13. Mark Bennett
12. Alex Dunbar
11. Tommy Seymour
10. Finn Russell
9. Chris Cusiter

1. Ryan Grant
2. Dougie Hall
3. Jon Welsh
4. Jonny Gray
5. Al Kellock (Captain)
6. Rob Harley
7. Chris Fusaro
8. Josh Strauss

16. Pat MacArthur
17. Gordon Reid
18. Geoff Cross
19. Tim Swinson
20. Leone Nakarawa
21. Niko Matawalu
22. Ruaridh Jackson
23. Sean Lamont

II. Munster

Felix Jones, Keith Earls, Casey Laulala, James Downey, Simon Zebo; Ian Keatley, Conor Murray; Dave Kilcoyne, Damien Varley - Capt, BJ Botha; Dave Foley, Paul O'Connell; CJ Stander, Sean Dougall, James Coughlan.

Replacements: Quentin MacDonald, James Cronin, John Ryan, Donncha O'Callaghan, Paddy Butler, Duncan Williams, JJ Hanrahan, Andrew Conway.

B. Previous Championships

I. Glasgow

None

Playoff Record - Played 3, Lost 3:
2010 Swansea: lost to Ospreys 5-20
2012 RDS: lost to Leinster 15-19.
2013 RDS: lost to Leinster 15-17.

II. Munster

Three (2002-2003; 2008-2009; 2010-2011)

Playoff Record - Played 3, Won 1, Lost 2:
2010 RDS: lost to Leinster 6-16.
2011 Thomond Park: beat Ospreys 18-11.
2012 Swansea: lost to Ospreys 10-45.

C. Form - head to head:

23 Played 23
8 Wins 14
14 Losses 8
1 Draws 1
44 Tries 57
31 Conversions 41
59 Penalties 51
1 Drop Goals 1
462 Points 523
26 Avg. Age 26

D. Form - this season & last:

Sat 1 December 2012, 19:45
Munster Rugby 31 - 3 Glasgow Warriors
Thomond Park

Fri 29 March 2013, 20:05
Glasgow Warriors 51 - 24 Munster Rugby
Scotstoun

Fri 25 October 2013, 19:35
Glasgow Warriors 6 - 13 Munster Rugby
Scotstoun

Sat 12 April 2014, 18:30
Munster Rugby 5 - 22 Glasgow Warriors
Thomond Park

No idea why this Muppet is the ref. Given the history between these 2 sides we need someone who can control the game.

So Alex Dunbar is taken out off the ball, then hit, then wrestled back off the try line. Munster then nearly cross our line.

Net result: 7 points to Munster

No. I don't want this. I want Glasgow to win this match, not have the moral victory. Come on weedge and frak off ref

That is a Frak disgraceful call. Earls takes out and Dunbar and holds him. Then no sign of the ball being grounded.

Come on Glasgow. Get stuck into these rule benders.

Cari wrote:Try given.    Interesting decision...

Tbh I thought it was a try every day of the week. Any part of the ball touching the line and it's a try. Plus the question was 'Any reason why I can't...' which means the TMO doesn't need to see it as the refs judgment is it probably is a try. From that angle I thought it was scored but don't get why they shouldn't have looked at it more than once.

Wonder if this will get a bit nasty like last time ....    

That is a Frak disgraceful call. Earls takes out and Dunbar and holds him. Then no sign of the ball being grounded.

Jeebus! That's some beard on that Weejie dude.  Bigger than anything we saw in Braveheart.

And which boyband did you rob your kicker from, Glasgow?

Cari wrote:Jeebus! That's some beard on that Weejie dude.  Bigger than anything we saw in Braveheart.

And which boyband did you rob your kicker from, Glasgow?

Same one you got your scrum-half from

Zebo empties himself every time Maitland gets the ball

I never thought I'd see Al Kellock floor O'Connell

This is getting ridiculous now. Munster lying all over our side all the time

Glasgow are playing by far the better rugby.

123456789 wrote:So Alex Dunbar is taken out off the ball, then hit, then wrestled back off the try line. Munster then nearly cross our line.

Net result: 7 points to Munster

I'm physically sickened by that. 16v15

I will love it if we beat this "streetwise" rugby team

Rob Harley is an outstanding rugby player

GLove39 wrote:

123456789 wrote:So Alex Dunbar is taken out off the ball, then hit, then wrestled back off the try line. Munster then nearly cross our line.

Net result: 7 points to Munster

I'm physically sickened by that. 16v15

Oh relax! It was a good try and if Dunbar has his head screwed on he doesn't react and makes his way back into the defensive line. Earls was cute but Munster will wind you up all day and if you lose your head you'll lose the game.

It could have been worse for Dunbar if he had made clearer contact because if he lands a punch he's going to the sin bin. He needs to not react to that.

Haha Munster are clearly committing penalties and they're getting clearly penalised. I love seeing that.

Notch wrote:

GLove39 wrote:

123456789 wrote:So Alex Dunbar is taken out off the ball, then hit, then wrestled back off the try line. Munster then nearly cross our line.

Net result: 7 points to Munster

I'm physically sickened by that. 16v15

Oh relax! It was a good try and if Dunbar has his head screws on he doesn't react and makes his way back into the defensive line. Munster will wind you up all day and if you lose your head you'll lose the game.

It could have been worse for Dunbar if he had made clearer contact.

So just to clarify, in the laws of the game if Munster cheat don't react, just accept it and move on, it's just what they do.

Notch wrote:

GLove39 wrote:

123456789 wrote:So Alex Dunbar is taken out off the ball, then hit, then wrestled back off the try line. Munster then nearly cross our line.

Net result: 7 points to Munster

I'm physically sickened by that. 16v15

Oh relax! It was a good try and if Dunbar has his head screwed on he doesn't react and makes his way back into the defensive line. Earls was cute but Munster will wind you up all day and if you lose your head you'll lose the game.

It could have been worse for Dunbar if he had made clearer contact because if he lands a punch he's going to the sin bin.

Rubbish. Earls had hold of Dunbar all that time and had Dunbar gone any more offensive to get him off it would have been pinged.

The boy in the crowd has it right "ruck them out the road"

Get the studs on the Munster boys laying offside

I can see why Rob Penny was happy when they announced this ref...

Mon Glasgae ta phook!

Believe.

Need to convert this into points..

123456789 wrote:So just to clarify, in the laws of the game if Munster cheat don't react, just accept it and move on, it's just what they do.

Well, you could try falling over and waving your arms at an exaggerated manner at the ref.

How does getting into fights help you win the game? They will try and make you lose your discipline. You have to avoid that pitfall.

Notch wrote:

123456789 wrote:So just to clarify, in the laws of the game if Munster cheat don't react, just accept it and move on, it's just what they do.

Well, you could try falling over and waving your arms at an exaggerated manner at the ref.

How does getting into fights help you win the game? They will try and make you lose your discipline. You have to avoid that pitfall.

I'm not saying to turn it into a fight just that Earls cheated and Munster scored despite/ as a result. Glasgow should have had a penalty. That it is inarguable. Unless in your form of rugby you do not have to have the ball to be tackled.

Ineffable wrote:Rubbish. Earls had hold of Dunbar all that time and had Dunbar gone any more offensive to get him off it would have been pinged.

Yes bit if Dunbar turns and tries to run back into the line and Earls doesn't let go that is a clear penalty. The refs can't not give it. As soon as he starts on Earls he's the aggressor in the eyes of the refs. Not thinking clearly.

How Frak many times is the ref going yo allow Munster to lye all over the place

123456789 wrote:I will love it if we beat this "streetwise" rugby team

It took us a while.. but now?

Just have to stand up to em. Make em yer bitches and they crumble. We do now. Regularly.

Believe.

123456789 wrote:

Notch wrote:

123456789 wrote:So just to clarify, in the laws of the game if Munster cheat don't react, just accept it and move on, it's just what they do.

Well, you could try falling over and waving your arms at an exaggerated manner at the ref.

How does getting into fights help you win the game? They will try and make you lose your discipline. You have to avoid that pitfall.

I'm not saying to turn it into a fight just that Earls cheated and Munster scored despite/ as a result. Glasgow should have had a penalty. That it is inarguable. Unless in your form of rugby you do not have to have the ball to be tackled.

Oh yeah, should have been a penalty but Dunbar made a stupid decision which basically stopped it being given.

Notch wrote:

123456789 wrote:So just to clarify, in the laws of the game if Munster cheat don't react, just accept it and move on, it's just what they do.

Well, you could try falling over and waving your arms at an exaggerated manner at the ref.

How does getting into fights help you win the game? They will try and make you lose your discipline. You have to avoid that pitfall.

That's what they do. Tres HC streetwise.

Just tuned in 10 minutes ago but from what I've seen so far the referee is doing well, some fierce tackling by the Munster backs.

Notch wrote:

123456789 wrote:

Notch wrote:

123456789 wrote:So just to clarify, in the laws of the game if Munster cheat don't react, just accept it and move on, it's just what they do.

Well, you could try falling over and waving your arms at an exaggerated manner at the ref.

How does getting into fights help you win the game? They will try and make you lose your discipline. You have to avoid that pitfall.

I'm not saying to turn it into a fight just that Earls cheated and Munster scored despite/ as a result. Glasgow should have had a penalty. That it is inarguable. Unless in your form of rugby you do not have to have the ball to be tackled.

Oh yeah, should have been a penalty but Dunbar made a stupid decision which basically stopped it being given.

So we're accepting the try should not have been allowed and that a Munster player cheated?

Try. He got within a foot of the line...

Oh Frak it. I give up.

123456789 wrote:

Notch wrote:

123456789 wrote:

Notch wrote:

123456789 wrote:So just to clarify, in the laws of the game if Munster cheat don't react, just accept it and move on, it's just what they do.

Well, you could try falling over and waving your arms at an exaggerated manner at the ref.

How does getting into fights help you win the game? They will try and make you lose your discipline. You have to avoid that pitfall.

I'm not saying to turn it into a fight just that Earls cheated and Munster scored despite/ as a result. Glasgow should have had a penalty. That it is inarguable. Unless in your form of rugby you do not have to have the ball to be tackled.

Oh yeah, should have been a penalty but Dunbar made a stupid decision which basically stopped it being given.

So we're accepting the try should not have been allowed and that a Munster player cheated?

Well of course but that doesn't matter now does it? The scores on the board. The difference in the scoreline is down to Dunbar losing his head and Munster being that wee bit cuter.

Now Strauss off. Goes from bad to worse

If the TMO gives this, I'll have a large LCD shoe very soon

There is some, not much, but some justice.

Tbf, if Zebo had got that that would have been an amazing finish.

Whatever the TMO said...not sure anyone heard it!

Wasn't a try. Couldn't see anything, can't give it.

Should be 3-0 right now with Munster scrum on Glasgow line. Fair's fair.

We are never going to win this game with this ref and our unwillingness to dispense our own justice. I am off to watch star trek

Notch wrote:

123456789 wrote:

Notch wrote:

123456789 wrote:

Notch wrote:

123456789 wrote:So just to clarify, in the laws of the game if Munster cheat don't react, just accept it and move on, it's just what they do.

Well, you could try falling over and waving your arms at an exaggerated manner at the ref.

How does getting into fights help you win the game? They will try and make you lose your discipline. You have to avoid that pitfall.

I'm not saying to turn it into a fight just that Earls cheated and Munster scored despite/ as a result. Glasgow should have had a penalty. That it is inarguable. Unless in your form of rugby you do not have to have the ball to be tackled.

Oh yeah, should have been a penalty but Dunbar made a stupid decision which basically stopped it being given.

So we're accepting the try should not have been allowed and that a Munster player cheated?

Well of course but that doesn't matter now does it? The scores on the board. The difference in the scoreline is down to Dunbar losing his head and Munster being that wee bit cuter.

Oh come ON. Look at it again. Do you really think Dunbar could have just stood there pleading? Tell me you would have done that. Early basically piles into him to take him over the tryline.

Proper knockout rugby. Lovin it lads. Lovin it.

The crowd are brilliant. Proper panto.   

I'm tired just watching this.

Tbf at this stage if Munster win it won't be because of the ref.

Mon Weegies!

This is your year. Don't let dem feic with yer heids. Keep Calm. Play yer game and...

Believe!

"Jesus Christ" says Peter wright

Can you sub a ref?