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Post by OMc Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:41 am

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NEW ZEALAND v ENGLAND
Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin
Saturday 14th June, KO 19:35 local, 08:35 BST


TEAMS
New Zealand
1: Woodcock, 2: Coles, 3: O Franks, 4: Retallick, 5: Whitelock, 6: Messam, 7: McCaw (c), 8: Kaino, 9: A Smith, 10: Cruden, 11: Savea, 12: Nonu, 13: C Smith, 14: Jane, 15: B Smith
Bench: 16: Mealamu, 17: Crockett, 18: Faumuina, 19: Tuipulotu, 20: Vito, 21: Perenara, 22: Barrett, 23: Fekitoa
England
1: Marler, 2: Webber, 3: Wilson, 4: Launchbury, 5: Parling, 6: Wood, 7: Robshaw (c), 8: Morgan, 9: Care, 10: Farrell, 11: Yarde, 12: Twelvetrees, 13: Burrell, 14: Tuilagi (what was he thinking?), 15: Brown
Bench: 16: Hartley, 17: Mullan, 18: Brookes, 19: Lawes, 20: Vunipola, 21: Youngs, 22: Burns, 23: Ashton

OFFICIALS
Referee: Jaco Peyper (SARU)
ARs: Nigel Owens (WRU) & Jérôme Garcès (FFR)
TMO: George Ayoub (ARU)


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Post by nathan Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:16 am

That pass next to the touch line was forward, owens missed it.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:17 am

The difference in the midfield make up is glaringly obvious. We're playing so deep and ponderous that the Kiwi drift has adapted and is just hoovering up our attacks.

Manu is far too easily double marked on the wing with that midfield. He'd got no room and two defenders waiting for him.

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Post by Taylorman Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:17 am

ben smith ...fantastic!

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Post by nathan Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:18 am

THAT SHOULD BE A YELLOW CARD, SMITH WASN'T ON HIS FEET!

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Post by Pal Joey Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:18 am

wow... Manu cut down by Ben Smith

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:18 am

Why did Brown run away from Manu. He stays on his shoulder and it's a pop inside for a try.

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Post by quinsforever Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:18 am

one of the best halves of rugby i have ever watched for intensity and ambition

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Post by Geordie Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:18 am

Ah Manu!! If only that had fell to Yarde.

Brilliant by Ben Smith though

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:18 am

Must be said a pure winger would have had the pace to finish that.

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Post by Scratch Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:18 am

such drudgery, be glad when its over

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Post by nathan Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:19 am

he isn't on his feet, he's resting on his hands!

exactly hands down!!

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Post by Taylorman Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:19 am

genius ben smith.woohoo.

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Post by Scratch Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:19 am

3 fingers for manu at half time

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Post by Pal Joey Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:19 am

like watching a wild boar getting caught by a terrier.

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Post by Geordie Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:19 am

Go away scratch

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Post by Scratch Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:20 am

trebellbobaggins wrote:Must be said a pure winger would have had the pace to finish that.

check, step inside, even dave wilson would have had it, or kicked

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:20 am

Good half that.

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Post by Scratch Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:21 am

GeordieFalcon wrote:Go away scratch

go away yourself.

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Post by nathan Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:21 am

Taylorman wrote:genius ben smith.woohoo.

I honestly think it should of been a penalty to England. He wasn't support his weight and flopped forwards onto his hands.

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Post by Taylorman Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:22 am

good way to end. No idea Manu...the whole field open and he does nothing. down on points but whew...do we have a second half...feterika to come on for Jane. Home ground.

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Post by Geordie Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:23 am

It's a cracking game and your calling it drudgery?

End the Manu trial now.

And Twelvtrees needs told what's what

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Post by Taylorman Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:23 am

Scratch wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:Go away scratch

go away yourself.
dnt worry...we'll be there when the boks thump ya scratch.

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Post by sickofwendy Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:23 am

Great commitment from England Fingers Crossed 

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Post by SecretFly Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:24 am

That was mighty calm unrushed defending by Ben Smith. Didn't panic just waited for the right moment to intercept

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Post by Scratch Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:24 am

massive positional frak up putting manu on the wing and with care's error rate and a ateral midfield england are in danger of squandering this, they are equal to nz and manu needs to get back to 13, put ashton on the wing

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Post by nathan Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:24 am

Taylorman wrote:good way to end. No idea Manu...the whole field open and he does nothing. down on points but whew...do we have a second half...feterika to come on for Jane. Home ground.

Brown didn't really help with his supporting line.

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Post by quinsforever Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:25 am

nz are the masters at getting away with infringements...mccaw round side of rucks, smith on brown, nonu obstruction (got caught), kaino round side of maul that england then fumbled. they are very clever about it and always do it on the side the ref isnt. it's a real skill and they are undoubted masters.

great half of rugby. wow. the english defense has been immense. can they keep up the effort? if care had been up to his usual best, england would be out of sight by now.

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Post by AFewTooManyKnocks Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:25 am

nathan wrote:
Taylorman wrote:genius ben smith.woohoo.

I honestly think it should of been a penalty to England. He wasn't support his weight and flopped forwards onto his hands.

Fair play where it's due mate. That was outstanding from Ben Smith.

On another note what was Brown up to running his line?

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Post by Pal Joey Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:25 am

England had the lion's share of possession... think it was nearly 70-30 at one stage but it evened out towards the end of that half. ABs looking better and better with more ball. Will be interesting to see how the subs impact, who starts to tire first and who can capitalise on any errors made.

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Post by Scratch Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:25 am

Taylorman wrote:
Scratch wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:Go away scratch

go away yourself.
dnt worry...we'll be there when the boks thump ya scratch.

fill your boots t man

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Post by GavinDragon Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:26 am

great half of rugby

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Post by nathan Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:26 am

ah i take it back with the smith turnover.

He did have his hand on the floor but then lifted it when grabbing the ball.

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Post by EnglishReign Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:27 am

This is where the pace of players like May is handy. Really daft decision to put Manu on wing, imo.

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Post by Taylorman Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:27 am

quinsforever wrote:nz are the masters at getting away with infringements...mccaw round side of rucks, smith on brown, nonu obstruction (got caught), kaino round side of maul that england then fumbled. they are very clever about it and always do it on the side the ref isnt. it's a real skill and they are undoubted masters.

great half of rugby. wow. the english defense has been immense. can they keep up the effort? if care had been up to his usual best, england would be out of sight by now.

here we go...and notice they were penalised. excuses already?

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:27 am

Yeah jane is having a pretty poor game so far. Seemed like everything he did ended up in a scrum. England started fantastically well but faded a bit and began to kick more which suits us.

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:27 am

England scrum ain't so dominant either to be fair.

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Post by TJ Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:28 am

dive from Brown BTW - worth a yellow? I'd like to see a replay

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Post by nathan Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:28 am

Taylorman wrote:
quinsforever wrote:nz are the masters at getting away with infringements...mccaw round side of rucks, smith on brown, nonu obstruction (got caught), kaino round side of maul that england then fumbled. they are very clever about it and always do it on the side the ref isnt. it's a real skill and they are undoubted masters.

great half of rugby. wow. the english defense has been immense. can they keep up the effort? if care had been up to his usual best, england would be out of sight by now.

here we go...and notice they were penalised. excuses already?

To be fair, we do have to listen to alot of excuses from the other side too.

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Post by sickofwendy Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:29 am

Manu made the tackle easy for smith
He just ran straight at him
Much more effective at 13 for me

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Post by GavinDragon Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:29 am

Taylorman wrote:
quinsforever wrote:nz are the masters at getting away with infringements...mccaw round side of rucks, smith on brown, nonu obstruction (got caught), kaino round side of maul that england then fumbled. they are very clever about it and always do it on the side the ref isnt. it's a real skill and they are undoubted masters.

great half of rugby. wow. the english defense has been immense. can they keep up the effort? if care had been up to his usual best, england would be out of sight by now.

here we go...and notice they were penalised. excuses already?

yea to be fair they were warned in the 3rd minute by the ref that the next infringement would be a card

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Post by Hood83 Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:29 am

only caught the last 5, anyone give me an overview? Looks like a close competitive half! Didn't expect that from this first 40.

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Post by Taylorman Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:30 am

not today you havnt.whats manus excuse? embarrassing that he tried nothing. rabbit in headlights.

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Post by kingelderfield Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:30 am

I just hope Tuilagi's failure to score is not the game play.

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Post by Scratch Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:31 am

Taylorman wrote:not today you havnt.whats manus excuse? embarrassing that he tried nothing. rabbit in headlights.

nearly as rabbit in headlights as richie was when yarde checked him and he fluffed his job in the 10 channel...oops

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Post by milkyboy Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:32 am

Shocking from brown on the tuilagi break. Manu got caught by a covering tackle, wow big deal. Arguably, Our two best players from the 6n care and brown prob our two worst players this half. Didn't think 36 was as bad as you think Geordie.

All to play for, benches might decide it.

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Post by Hood83 Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:33 am

Sounds like Manu on the wing hasn't been perfect. Think we all saw that. I'm beginning to think Kieran Read is more important to the ABs than I realised.

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Post by Geordie Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:35 am

I expect MUCH more from the midfield this half. Otherwise twelvtrees day is gone and work with Eastmond.

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Post by nathan Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:36 am

We're starting to fall asleep at the breakdown

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Post by Pal Joey Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:36 am

beautiful try!

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:36 am

There we go boys!

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