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Post by lydian Mon 9 Jun - 15:59

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...so they trot out endlessly - "Widely regarded as the game's best returner, Djokovic..."

Who are all these people who widely regard Djokovic as the best returner?
The media has repeated this old line so many times it gets stated as if it's the truth.
Amongst active players, all surfaces:

Career 1st Serve Return Points Won:
#1 - Rafael Nadal
#2 - David Ferrer
#3 - Andy Murray
#4 - Novak Djokovic

Career 2nd Serve Return Points Won:
#1 - Rafael Nadal
#2 - Andy Murray
#3 - David Ferrer
#4 - Novak Djokovic

Career Break Points Converted:
#1 - Rafael Nadal
#2 - Novak Djokovic
#3 - David Ferrer
#4 - Volandri (!!)

Career Return Games Won:
#1 - Rafael Nadal
#2 - David Ferrer
#3 - Novak Djokovic
#4 - Andy Murray

These stats are easily accessible to media on the ATP website - so why is Djokovic held aloft as the best returner?
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Post by Guest Tue 1 Jul - 19:53

1 set v 1 match?

Not the best argument.

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Post by kingraf Tue 1 Jul - 21:32

The argument is that when a player's serve gets hot on grass... as Agassi found out, there's nothing you can do.
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Post by Guest Tue 1 Jul - 21:39

I think Agassi was outgunned once on grass to a red hot server and that was the 1999 final.

I expected Nadal to try and get on the second serve.

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Post by kingraf Tue 1 Jul - 21:45

Nadal won 19/46 on second serve. that's over 40%
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Post by Guest Tue 1 Jul - 22:01

Not bad Very Happy

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Post by kingraf Tue 1 Jul - 22:20

Of course it's not bad. Nadal played fine, he didn't get thrashed, he got edged by the odd point, against a kid playing big boy tennis.
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