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Post by Number-25 Mon 15 Sep 2014, 12:13 am

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Well played San Diego

That was a fine performance

Made Seattle look ordinary

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 19 Sep 2014, 7:16 am

50 BURGER

Tampa haven't even got a first down yet and Atlanta are 28-0 up. I mean its not like Atlanta's defence is even good
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Post by GSC Fri 19 Sep 2014, 7:25 am

I think Tampa have given up by now Olly
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 19 Sep 2014, 7:52 am

Drafting Julio Jones in like all my fantasy leagues is going too well

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Post by Number-25 Fri 19 Sep 2014, 9:08 am

Things are not going well in Tampa are they?

Takes my mind back to this article on NFL.com earlier this year about each of the 2014 HC hires:-

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000317241/article/2014-nfl-coaching-class-awards

Coach most likely to succeed..... Lovie Smith

This is why I no longer look at NFL.com. It's garbage.

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Post by GSC Fri 19 Sep 2014, 9:11 am

http://www.nfl.com/videos/philadelphia-eagles/0ap3000000395942/Eagles-No-3-overall
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Post by NYJ Fri 19 Sep 2014, 12:56 pm

GSC wrote:http://www.nfl.com/videos/philadelphia-eagles/0ap3000000395942/Eagles-No-3-overall

Maybe with Sanchez at QB but not that imposter Nick Foles.

Bucs have given up on the season already.
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Post by sodhat Fri 19 Sep 2014, 2:33 pm

Look at that jiggle

http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/these-are-professional-football-players-1636668725/+bubbaprog

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Post by Lowlandbrit Fri 19 Sep 2014, 2:34 pm

Has anyone checked on Pr4wn? I wasn't expecting the Bucs to look good, but I was shocked just how terrible they were. That team is Jacksonville bad.

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Post by Thomond Fri 19 Sep 2014, 3:41 pm

Well that was something else. Part of the problem in Tampa is coaching, the scheme isn't that bad (they really aren't playing cover 2 or Tampa 2 as much as you would think), the players are screwing up a lot, making fundamental errors. Goldson has made several in the last couple of weeks, I knew he was average in coverage before he signed but he has been terrible.


From what I saw at training camp, I was worried about the offense, the defence not as much, but there were depth issues here as much as anything (4 missing starters are going to hurt you too). We all knew McCown was shoite, apparently Lovie didn't, always had accuracy problems, and making stupid plays so that's not a surprise.

I had the team going about 6/7 wins this year, there are a few winnable games there, I don't think it could ever be that bad again but they will get blown out a few times. Just blow it all up and get Mariota.

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Post by TM Moot Fri 19 Sep 2014, 3:48 pm

Lowlandbrit wrote:Has anyone checked on Pr4wn? I wasn't expecting the Bucs to look good, but I was shocked just how terrible they were. That team is Jacksonville bad.

the score line actually flattered them, could of been a lot worse...

incidentally, what is the highest score in regular season history? (I know its normally frowned upon to run up a score)

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Post by GSC Fri 19 Sep 2014, 4:08 pm

Won't be long until Glennons in. The Bucs have discovered what most of the world suspected, that McCowns outlier of a few good games with a great coach/receivers are not the norm.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 19 Sep 2014, 5:12 pm

TM Moot wrote:
Lowlandbrit wrote:Has anyone checked on Pr4wn? I wasn't expecting the Bucs to look good, but I was shocked just how terrible they were. That team is Jacksonville bad.

the score line actually flattered them, could of been a lot worse...

incidentally, what is the highest score in regular season history? (I know its normally frowned upon to run up a score)

I've really never understood that notion. Its up to the other team to stop you, not you to stop yourselves
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Post by Thomond Fri 19 Sep 2014, 5:21 pm

McCown is dealing with an injury to his thumb so it's almost certain Glennon will start. Checkdowns galore but it's better than what's there at the moment.

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Post by Lowlandbrit Sat 20 Sep 2014, 12:14 am

So, Goodell spent over half an hour avoiding answering questions at a press conference. Who knows, as long as nothing new comes out, it might blow over now. What's that? Oh.
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11551518/how-ray-rice-scandal-unfolded-baltimore-ravens-roger-goodell-nfl

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 20 Sep 2014, 12:20 am

I know people are outraged at Goodell, but shouldn't people really be outraged at Baltimore....
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Post by skins4ever Sat 20 Sep 2014, 12:41 pm

Actually, people should be outraged at Rice (and AP etc.), disappointed with Baltimore and asking for change at the top of the NFL.

Teams will always do what protects the organisation and it's chances of winning, including public image, but a single team cannot change league regulations etc. A player is responsible for himself and his behaviour, so cannot argue when he breaks the rules of the league, let alone society. None of the players involved in these issues have handled themselves well, but likewise, none of them have acted like they were above the law or that they don't understand the position (or at the very least like they don't believe they did anything wrong) they have put themselves and everyone else in.

The league on the other hand has shown a lack of clear process and decisive handling of these affairs, almost to the point of incompetence. Goodell has already lost the faith of the fans a long time back with his approach to taming the game, and now he can't even get his house in order. He has to step down soon and allow the NFL to put in place someone stronger and better able to portray the face of the league in public. They need a commissioner who is less interested in playing around with the on field activities and more capable of keeping the NFL off field image intact.

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Post by NYJ Sat 20 Sep 2014, 1:59 pm

Why is it the NFL's responsibility to be the moral leader of society? I'm not saying that it's right for domestic abuse to happen but why do the NFL need to decide what is right or wrong? It's surely up to an individual team whether they want someone like that on their team and the NFL shouldn't need to get involved until there is a legal conviction.
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Post by GSC Sat 20 Sep 2014, 2:12 pm

Innocent until proven guilty after all
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Post by mikeygnfl Sat 20 Sep 2014, 2:55 pm

GSC wrote:Won't be long until Glennons in. The Bucs have discovered what most of the world suspected, that McCowns outlier of a few good games with a great coach/receivers are not the norm.
I thought Glennon did ok last season. He looked better than Geno Smith and  EJ Manuel, with above average rookie stats, and I felt the Buccaneers should have continued to try and build around him as the Jets and Bills have respectively.
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Post by Lowlandbrit Sat 20 Sep 2014, 7:30 pm

NYJ wrote:Why is it the NFL's responsibility to be the moral leader of society? I'm not saying that it's right for domestic abuse to happen but why do the NFL need to decide what is right or wrong?
Roger Goodell is the one that's spent all his time as commisioner going on about 'protecting the Shield'. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Here's an actual quote from his press conference about why he hasn't thought of resigning by the way:
[Q] Why do you feel like you should be able to continue in this role?
[A] Because i acknowledged my mistake.
Because apparently that's all it takes.

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Post by GSC Sat 20 Sep 2014, 7:49 pm

Roger Goodells primary role is to take the flak so people don't point the finger at the owners.
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Post by Guest Sun 21 Sep 2014, 11:17 am

Former Titans kicker Rob Bironas has died in a car crash aged 36

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 21 Sep 2014, 12:49 pm

Man that sucks
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Post by Lowlandbrit Sun 21 Sep 2014, 5:59 pm

[...] there's some things you can cover up, and then there's some things you can't. Right now is a sad day for me, because the reputation that I left in this organisation, this isn't it.
That was said by none other than Ray Lewis. No, really: http://deadspin.com/ray-lewis-some-things-you-can-cover-up-some-thing-1637373530/all

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Post by crazy_dave23 Sun 21 Sep 2014, 6:33 pm

Dalton-Sanu TD pass... but the wrong way around

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Post by crazy_dave23 Sun 21 Sep 2014, 6:36 pm

Do the Giants hate themselves?

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Post by adams_legend Sun 21 Sep 2014, 6:49 pm

crazy_dave23 wrote:Do the Giants hate themselves?

They must do, no team can have that much bad luck

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 21 Sep 2014, 7:05 pm

Gronk can't even run, still catches TD's

Austin Davis is the next Peyton
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 21 Sep 2014, 7:24 pm

8 yards passing and 28 yards offence for Jacksonville at the half.

For the love of god just pay bortles already
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Post by GSC Sun 21 Sep 2014, 7:29 pm

Why.

Their OL sucks, Gerhart sucks and they have no healthy WRs.
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Post by GSC Sun 21 Sep 2014, 7:30 pm

The Eagles defense has been absolutely abysmal.

And they lead.
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Post by mikeygnfl Sun 21 Sep 2014, 7:42 pm

Perhaps Florida should have one team like Tennessee, Minnesota and Carolina.
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Post by adams_legend Sun 21 Sep 2014, 7:48 pm

Olly wrote:8 yards passing and 28 yards offence for Jacksonville at the half.

For the love of god just pay bortles already

You have your wish

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Post by mikeygnfl Sun 21 Sep 2014, 7:50 pm

GSC wrote:Why.

Their OL sucks, Gerhart sucks and they have no healthy WRs.
They've got Allen Robinson and he's in my fantasy team so I need someone who can throw to him.
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Post by Number-25 Sun 21 Sep 2014, 8:12 pm

Football has gone soft. I've just seen the most ridiculous roughing the passer call against the Redskins' Trent Murphy. Unless of course the Eagles are getting some special help this season given the beneficial call they got last week too....

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Post by Number-25 Sun 21 Sep 2014, 8:37 pm

DeSean Jackson burns Cary Williams for an 81 yard TD

Sweet

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 21 Sep 2014, 8:47 pm

Pats offence sucks ass badly. Offensive line is just plain offensive
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Post by GSC Sun 21 Sep 2014, 8:50 pm

Dams burst. Just too many OL injuries
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Post by Number-25 Sun 21 Sep 2014, 8:53 pm

Redskins and Eagles both appear to be trying not to win this game.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 21 Sep 2014, 8:55 pm

Fat guy INT
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Post by GSC Sun 21 Sep 2014, 8:57 pm

2nd string C and 3rd string G and T will do that.

You stay classy Washington
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Post by GSC Sun 21 Sep 2014, 8:59 pm

Samuels ejected for the cheapest shot you'll see all year
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Post by Number-25 Sun 21 Sep 2014, 9:02 pm

My goodness, Philly are getting some serious help from the officials in this one. Mass brawl on the Redskins sidelines and somehow, the only person ejected from the game following is Trent Williams... despite the fact that the Eagles' Peters was one of the instigators!

Redskins Baker also ejected but rightly so for a sneaky hit on Foles.

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Post by adams_legend Sun 21 Sep 2014, 9:03 pm

Rams mad how the hell can you throw away a 21 point lead

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Post by Number-25 Sun 21 Sep 2014, 9:04 pm

Ah Peters gone now too. I'm happier.

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Post by GSC Sun 21 Sep 2014, 9:05 pm

Peters was ejected not Williams

Probably shouldn't have but when your teammate gets blatantly cheap shotted like that
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Post by Number-25 Sun 21 Sep 2014, 9:05 pm

GSC wrote:Samuels ejected for the cheapest shot you'll see all year

Samuels???

Baker surely?

It was a very cheap hit. Deserved to go and also the inevitable fine that he'll be hit with this week.

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Post by Number-25 Sun 21 Sep 2014, 9:09 pm

Think the Eagles win this now. They'll be fired up after that hit on Foles. Redskins missed their chance when they came away scoreless when inside the Eagles' 10 on their last drive.

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Post by Number-25 Sun 21 Sep 2014, 9:15 pm

And that's why Cousins won't continue to start once Griffin is back - terrible interception to basically kill the game. He's prone to those unfortunately.

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Post by Number-25 Sun 21 Sep 2014, 9:20 pm

Difference in this game again has been Redskins special teams miscues.

One kickoff returned by the Eagles for a TD and one missed chip shot fieldgoal. Eagles winning 37-27 and we've handed them 10 points.

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