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2014 606v2 P4P top 15: please submit VOTES!!

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Post by All Time Great Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:57 pm

It’s time to vote for the 606V2 POUND FOR POUND Top 15 rankings (Q4 2015).

Rules:
-Only 1 post per 606 member.
-Only active fighters allowed (must of fought in the last 18 months unless officially retired)
-Outlandish listings will be DQ.
-A fighter needs two individual votes to have his points included.

Principles:
Your Top 15 should be based as at the current point in time.

Point Scoring System:
Quite simple, #1 scores 15 points, #2 scores 14 points etc… I will tally up the totals by the deadline date and will present the results.

NOTE: PLEASE TRY AND USE FULL NAMES (or correct surnames) & LIST your results.

For reference only, the previous Top 15 606v2 P4P rankings as at 31st December 2013 was:

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Post by All Time Great Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:05 pm

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. GGG
4. Andre Ward
5. Wladimir Klitschko
6. Kovalev
7. Stevenson
8. Rigondeaux
9. Froch
10. Crawford
11. Canelo Alvarez
12. Tim Bradley
13. JMM
14. Kell Brook
15. Gonzalez

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:23 pm

Pacquiao above Mayweather, how and why?

1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. Rigondeaux
4. Ward
5. Bradley
6. Marquez
7. Wlad
8. Froch
9. Roman Gonzalez
10. Kovalev
11. Mikey Garcia
12. Alvarez
13 Stevenson
14. Santa Cruz
15. Golovkin
From about five downwards you could put them in any order really.


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:33 pm

Like Hammer's list..pretty similar to where I'm at..


Manny at 1 and the untested GGG at 3...

Do me a favor.

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Post by 88Chris05 Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:43 pm

1) Mayweather 2) Pacquiao 3) Ward 4) Rigondeaux 5) Wladimir Klitschko 6) Roman Gonzalez 7) Bradley 8) Kovalev 9) Froch 10) Stevenson 11) Golovkin 12) Crawford 13) Danny Garcia 14) Marquez 15) Alvarez

I think more or less the same as Hammersmith - pretty happy with my top six and think they're set in stone at the moment (the names, not necessarily the order). But outside of that there are a lot of pros and cons for each man and basically nothing between the majority of them.
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Post by DuransHorse Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:00 pm

With this being a 2014 p4p list, maybe we should exclude fighters that haven't fought in 2014. Wards obviously a talent but giving him one of the usual 2 to 4 slots is starting to seem unfair when he's not fighting.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:28 pm

1 Mayweather
2 Pacquiao
3 Klitschko
4 Rigondeaux
5 Kovalev
6 Ward
7 Gonzalez
8 Bradley
9 Froch
10 Golovkin
11 Crawford
12 Marquez
13 Alvarez
14 Danny Garcia
15 Stevenson

I'm not sure I'm completely happy with that. Other than my 1-2 which I'm pretty set on, the others could all move around a fair bit. Wlad may seem too high to many but ultimately he's taken on all his mandatories and thrashed them. Ward slips down, just isn't fighting enough. Kovalev's complete thrashing of Hopkins nudges him into the top 5. From 8 down, much of a muchness really. GGG would probably be higher if he could secure some big fights (not his fault maybe but can't rank on hypotheticals...). Stevenson may feel a little low but his ducking of Hopkins and Kovalev (in my eyes) annoyed me Wink.

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Post by All Time Great Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:55 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Pacquiao above Mayweather, how and why?

1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. Rigondeaux
4. Ward
5. Bradley
6. Marquez
7. Wlad
8. Froch
9. Roman Gonzalez
10. Kovalev
11. Mikey Garcia
12. Alvarez
13 Stevenson
14. Santa Cruz
15. Golovkin
From about five downwards you could put them in any order really.

I don't want to turn this into a Manny vs. Floyd debate. But (1) Manny's recent CV and performances are better and (2) if they ever did get in the ring together I think the current Manny Pacquiao would beat the current Mayweather based on recent performances.

In addition, Manny's overall CV (despite the losses) is better than Floyd's.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:22 am

His recent CV is not better in the slightest, how does losing to Marquez twice make his CV better and Alvarez is a better win than any of his recent wins. His better performances namely one came against Algieri, aside from that he didn't outperform Mayweather when he was outclassing Guerrero and Alvarez.

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Tue Dec 02, 2014 4:51 am

Mayweather
Pacman
Ward
Rigo
Bradley
Kovalev
Marquez
Froch
Mikey Garcia
Wlad
Danny Garcia
Crawford
Stevenson
GGG
Gonzalez

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Post by All Time Great Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:48 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:His recent CV is not better in the slightest, how does losing to Marquez twice make his CV better and Alvarez is a better win than any of his recent wins. His better performances namely one came against Algieri, aside from that he didn't outperform Mayweather when he was outclassing Guerrero and Alvarez.

You have Tim Bradley above Canelo Alvarez in your P4P rankings???? Is a victory over an unbeaten Tim Bradley, coming of the back of a UD victory vs. Marquez, not a better "W" to have on your CV?

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:16 am

No for the simple fact Alvarez is a lot bigger and was not at a weight Mayweather is comfortable at, Catchweight or not. Bradley was unbeaten on paper only, Pacquiao had already beaten him.

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Post by hazharrison Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:15 am

1. Chris Eubank Jr.
2. Marvin Hagler (if Ward counts, then so does Hagler).
3. Scott Quigg
4. Anthony Joshua
5. Chris Eubank Sr.
6. Michael Sprott
7. Tony Bellew
8. Adonis Stevenson
9. Nathan Cleverly
10. Sergey Kovalev

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