6CW Chat V.2

by **x12x** Mon 15 Dec 2014, 12:37 pm

First topic message reminder :

Here we go again!

by **x12x** Sat 31 Jan 2015, 12:03 am

So you'd be scouting for girls then? drumroll

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 31 Jan 2015, 12:21 am

Happy Mondays classics, early Fratellis and Razorlight's first album. I could handle that

by **x12x** Sat 31 Jan 2015, 9:40 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Also, Vipes, just watched the WrestleMania 24hr doc; Alexa Bliss is some kind of incredible

by TwisT Sat 31 Jan 2015, 1:37 pm

xviperx wrote:
TwisT wrote:In answer to QOTD2:

Because it's all about the Grace, 'bout the Grace. All wrestle. Yes it's all about the Grace, 'bout the Grace. All wrestle

Love this

Book her for DoR!

by **x12x** Sat 31 Jan 2015, 4:31 pm

As it's a bit quiet today I thought I'd give everyone a QOTD...it's a spin on one I've asked before but:

If WWE creative took control of 6CW, what would the place look like? Who would be the World Champion and where would your character(s) be?

by **x12x** Sat 31 Jan 2015, 4:37 pm

My answer:

I reckon at Night Of Glory we'd be looking at the main event of World Champion JJ Johnson taking on Gateway To Glory winner Anthony Grace...WWE would want to cash in on their marketability. This by the way isn't saying that JJ v Grace wouldn't be awesome as both guys promos would be amazing to see but in a kayefabe sense it's who I'd picture being given the nod.

As for The Death Squad I'd picture them getting a massive push as the evil foreigners before having a home team go over them...a bit like where they're heading with Rusev and John Cena.

Wood would probably be in a similar spot and used in a sort of Dolph Ziggler/Daniel Bryan style slot...he'd give the indie/smark fans hope just before Vince broke their hearts haha

by TwisT Sat 31 Jan 2015, 4:37 pm

Errrr.....because of the comparisons to Cena, you know full well who would be number 1 man. I know WWE would book the GazzyD and Adamson feud all wrong. Christy would be dressed like a prozzy

by Fernando Sun 01 Feb 2015, 3:52 pm

WWE have made a video for Viper Laugh

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun 01 Feb 2015, 4:02 pm

The devaluing of the superkick makes me a little sad

by **x12x** Sun 01 Feb 2015, 5:34 pm

I think it was bound to happen because in the end of it, it's just a kick...it's like the leg drop...it just doesn't make sense to be a finisher anymore. That being said when the right person hits it (eg. Shawn Michaels) then people will suspend belief and just cheer because of who it is...

It's like the People's Elbow, it's a stupid finisher but because of who hits it it works...there are loads of finishers I hate actually.

by TwisT Sun 01 Feb 2015, 9:30 pm

I think it's the evolution of wrestling. As time goes on, more innovative moves will be created and older ones, even finishers, will be the norm.

Best example is the DDT. When Jake did the move, it was rightly viewed as devastating at the time. Now pretty much all matches contain one.

by Paul Mac 6CW Mon 02 Feb 2015, 9:00 am

Morning all - It always amazes me the punishment that a lot of the guys take, through tables the lot and then they are finished by a leg drop or a simple suplex

I don't really like the idea of a 'finisher' unless it is a submission move then yes you can understand why they tap out but really how many finishers now a-days are that devastating you can genuinely understand why somebody couldn't kick out of it?

by TwisT Mon 02 Feb 2015, 9:19 am

I can think of two.....F5 and Jumping Tombstone.

Sweet Chin Music used to be another but the move has been diluted. Perhaps the Jackhammer as well, at a push.

Already mentioned DDT, but only in late 80's. Bret Hart's piledriver of the late 80's was also devastating.

Basically it has to be a move at speed where the opponent is hit or lands on their head. Moves like AA and Shellshock are out. Even the Chokeslam doesn't look as vicious.

Of the submissions, the Crippler Crossface was the best and you can argue the Kimara is the best of today.

by Marky Mon 02 Feb 2015, 9:33 am

If done properly Cena's STF is a believeable finisher. But that's the problem, it's rarely done properly!

I always thought RVD's Frog Splash trumped anyone else's splash in terms of being impactful and devastating.

by Paul Mac 6CW Mon 02 Feb 2015, 10:06 am

Cena doesn't do anything properly

I preferred Eddies frog splash if I'm honest but can see how the move would be one that is genuinely painful - My favourite submission of all time is the sharpshooter

by TwisT Mon 02 Feb 2015, 10:53 am

I always liked D-Lo Brown's, Lo Down splash myself. Thought it was a harder type of frog splash with the theatrics he used mid-air.

Any "big man" moonsault was really good. Hugh Morris and Big Van Vader's were immense.

I suppose the most believable move ever, in terms of not being able to kick out, would be the Banzai Splash.

by Paul Mac 6CW Mon 02 Feb 2015, 11:07 am

I'm surprised the finger poke of doom didn't catch on more Smile

by **x12x** Mon 02 Feb 2015, 2:42 pm

Finishers that no one can argue against? Omega Driver or Steiner Screwdriver are probably the ultimate ones for me.

I always find it weird how moves like a superplex or even a Full Nelson Suplex are seen as less effective than an AA or the Rock Bottom.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon 02 Feb 2015, 3:33 pm

Orton has shown real creativity with the RKO at times. It's arguably the best finisher in wrestling as it's fast, adaptable and believable. The curb stomp isn't visually fantastic but is realistically brutal.

The worst has always been the 619.

by Marky Mon 02 Feb 2015, 3:36 pm

To be fair, the 619 was never a finisher, more a setup for the Westcoast Pop.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon 02 Feb 2015, 3:53 pm

I suppose I'm judging him on his later years when he either couldn't or just didn't hit that any more. He did used to drop off the top rope (which for some reason in my head I am calling spend a penny even though I know it isn't that and I know what that means) but I always thought there must be fairly few moves in wrestling that hurt less than Rey Mysterio falling on you

by Marky Mon 02 Feb 2015, 4:05 pm

Drop the Dime? Like a falling splash. Either way, the 619 was only half the finisher.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon 02 Feb 2015, 4:16 pm

Yesh, that's the one. Either way it was rather pants. Although I've been notoriously down on him ever since WWE gave him that charity title when Punk left

by TwisT Mon 02 Feb 2015, 4:21 pm

Reys best finisher has always been the Frankensteiner he used in WCW. Simply because it relied on the other guys selling to make it believable.

Problem with the 619 is he gets opponents into a position that we very rarely see out of Mysterio matches.

Orton's RKO is certainly something he has made his own, with the mannerisms beforehand and the variety of ways he can hit it.

by **x12x** Mon 02 Feb 2015, 9:04 pm

I like how versatile the RKO is but I've always thought that it's one of those things that would hurt you just as much as the person you do it to.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon 02 Feb 2015, 9:14 pm

xviperx wrote:I like how versatile the RKO is but I've always thought that it's one of those things that would hurt you just as much as the person you do it to.

Having flattened a mate of mine with it I can tell you this isnt the case. Although my technique was slightly worse than Randy's and my mate was very drunk so didnt sell it perfectly.

The stunner was always decent, and the pedigree is easy to justify. The GTS isnt perfect visually but easy to sell on why it hurts, and its a shame Itami doesnt seem to do it (although I've missed recent NXT's so cant say that as fact). Tis unsurprisingly the inspiration for Hurst's Washboard Stomach

by **x12x** Mon 02 Feb 2015, 9:18 pm

From what I've seen of NXT they keep having Hideo set it up but then have it broken up before he hits the GTS. The GTS is also obviously the inspiration for Wood's World Eater although I mixed it in with Cesaro's Pop up Uppercut.

Punches as finishers for me are weird because it just makes me wonder why not just hit it straight away...like the running versions like the Bullhammer are a bit more justified but Big Show's KO Punch has always confused me.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon 02 Feb 2015, 10:31 pm

That'll work well, could get a big pop in a big match. Would be great if they saved it for the main roster but they dont have the patience for something like that on the big shows

I hate the Bullhammer and hate the KO as finishers. Chokeslams are a solid finisher and seem to have been forgotten a bit.

by **x12x** Tue 03 Feb 2015, 5:06 am

I've been thinking of ways to get more people involved and talking and I have a good idea that I'm stealing from the Wrestling section on here...after the next show/once we have a fully confirmed card for D.O.R I'll be setting up a prediction's thread that we can run from now until the end of 2015.

Just putting it out there, who's interested?
I'm only asking now as some of us end up taking matches for the PPV's so we can get our predictions in early before knowing any results...

...oh and JJ/Paul I'm sorry but you can't enter Wink

by Paul Mac 6CW Tue 03 Feb 2015, 8:14 am

Sounds like a good idea Viper - Would be great if it brought more people to read the shows

Morning all

by **x12x** Tue 03 Feb 2015, 8:19 am

I like the idea of having non-members getting involved...like I know Nando keeps an eye out so maybe it could get a bit of healthy competition going. The next show is the last before D.O.R right?

Once the full card is up I'll put up a prediction thread with the rules...need to work out a way that people can take matches to write but can still get points as to not miss out on possible points.

by Paul Mac 6CW Tue 03 Feb 2015, 8:30 am

Yes - This is the last Anarchy before DOR

by **x12x** Tue 03 Feb 2015, 8:45 am

Sweet, I'll get the prediction card up on Friday night after the show and hopefully that will give match writers time to predict without getting to know the results of certain matches.

Will also hopefully have the PPV poster finished by the next show as well...left this one a bit late.

by Paul Mac 6CW Tue 03 Feb 2015, 9:10 am

You're doing a match as well aren't you?

by **x12x** Tue 03 Feb 2015, 9:59 am

This week I have a PPV poster to do, a match for Friday and my WWA weekly show to write but I'm only working Thursday this week so I have plenty of time to get that stuff done.

by Paul Mac 6CW Tue 03 Feb 2015, 10:00 am

That's what I like to hear Smile

by **x12x** Tue 03 Feb 2015, 10:04 am

And while I'm here...

QOTD: On Friday someone will become the bookies favourite when they snatch the number 30 spot for the Gateway To Glory match...out of the men involved who would YOU book it as?

Personally I'd give it to Joshua, imagine knowing that the last man to walk out is the biggest monster in the fed at the moment. Might sound weird but I actually don't want Wood to win it, I want Wood in early so that he's involved in loads of the match haha

by TwisT Tue 03 Feb 2015, 10:30 am

I want Grace to get it, just to see the meltdown it causes Laugh

Will be like the Rumble.....just need some former huge 6CW star to come out and endorse him. Holding Grace's arm aloft to cheers and boos!

Keith Leone might be a good shout for that role.

by **x12x** Tue 03 Feb 2015, 10:46 am

Whoever does come out to hold his arm up do they have to have the same expression on their face? Laugh

6CW Chat V.2 - Page 13 Roman-reigns-the-rock

I can't tell if it's a look of disapointment haha

by Fernando Tue 03 Feb 2015, 10:55 am

by **x12x** Tue 03 Feb 2015, 10:59 am

So Nando...as an "outsider" at the moment as you read the shows but don't participate what's your opinion on the roster...who would you mark out for?

by Fernando Tue 03 Feb 2015, 11:15 am

What are we on about?

by **x12x** Tue 03 Feb 2015, 11:44 am

by Fernando Tue 03 Feb 2015, 11:45 am

I haven't kept up with things since your were being dicked on by Costello 6CW Chat V.2 - Page 13 3559488474

so ive no idea...

by **x12x** Tue 03 Feb 2015, 11:51 am

Get reading again...I want to see your predictions when I start the league

by TwisT Tue 03 Feb 2015, 2:00 pm

Fernando wrote:I haven't kept up with things since your were being dicked on by Costello so ive no idea...

That's still happening, but Joshua has joined in now

BTW anyone checking there PL fantasy football teams? Kicking your backsides in the 6CW league.

by Guest Tue 03 Feb 2015, 2:52 pm

xviperx wrote:And while I'm here...

QOTD: On Friday someone will become the bookies favourite when they snatch the number 30 spot for the Gateway To Glory match...out of the men involved who would YOU book it as?

Personally I'd give it to Joshua, imagine knowing that the last man to walk out is the biggest monster in the fed at the moment. Might sound weird but I actually don't want Wood to win it, I want Wood in early so that he's involved in loads of the match haha

Only problem if Joshua was to win number 30, if he entered at 30 and then never won the G2G then he'd look a bit pants, unless of course he left a path of destruction and then eliminated himself

by **x12x** Tue 03 Feb 2015, 2:58 pm

TwisT wrote:
Fernando wrote:I haven't kept up with things since your were being dicked on by Costello so ive no idea...

That's still happening, but Joshua has joined in now

BTW anyone checking there PL fantasy football teams? Kicking your backsides in the 6CW league.

In Wood's defence he's never been beaten clean by Costello...Joshua is kicking his ass a bit now though Laugh

by MtotheC Tue 03 Feb 2015, 3:19 pm

Clean smean!!! A wins a win! 6CW Chat V.2 - Page 13 3559488474

Oh and good afternoon everyone!

by Paul Mac 6CW Tue 03 Feb 2015, 3:36 pm

A heel clean win? - He's not HHH Smile

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