Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread VI - Banter Boogaloo

[George Carlin]

First topic message reminder :

Prehistorical Patter:

https://www.606v2.com/t48240-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread
https://www.606v2.com/t51313-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-ii
https://www.606v2.com/t53119-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-iii
https://www.606v2.com/t54519-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-iv
https://www.606v2.com/t55409-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-v-the-fun-continues

A. Edinburgh


1. League Results

Fri 5 Sep: Munster Rugby 13 - 14 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 12 Sep: Edinburgh Rugby 13 - 14 Connacht Rugby

Sun 21 Sep: Ospreys 62 - 13 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 26 Sep: Edinburgh Rugby 20 - 20 Scarlets

Fri 3 Oct: Ulster Rugby 30 - 0 Edinburgh Rugby

Sat 11 Oct: Edinburgh Rugby 24 - 10 Newport Gwent Dragons

Fri 31 Oct: Leinster Rugby 33 - 8 Edinburgh Rugby

Sun 23 Nov: Edinburgh Rugby 28 - 13 Cardiff Blues

Sat 29 Nov: Zebre 18 - 10 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 19 Dec: Edinburgh Rugby 48 - 0 Benetton Treviso

Sat 27 Dec: Glasgow Warriors 16 - 6 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 2 Jan: Edinburgh Rugby - 20 - 8 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 9 Jan: Connacht Rugby 13 - 16 Edinburgh Rugby

2. European Results

17/10/14: Bordeaux-Begles 13 - 15 Edinburgh Rugby

24/10/14: Edinburgh Rugby 25 - 17 Lyon

7/12/14: Edinburgh Rugby 25 - 13 London Welsh

14/12/14: London Welsh 6 - 24 Edinburgh Rugby

17/01/2015: Lyon 21 - 19 Edinburgh Rugby

23/01/2015: Edinburgh Rugby 38 - 20 Bordeaux-Begles

B. Glasgow


1. League Results

Sat 6 Sep: Glasgow Warriors 22 - 20 Leinster Rugby

Sun 14 Sep: Cardiff Blues 12 - 33 Glasgow Warriors

Sat 20 Sep: Newport Gwent Dragons 13 - 33 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 26 Sep: Glasgow Warriors 39 - 21 Connacht Rugby

Sun 5 Oct: Benetton Treviso 23 - 40 Glasgow Warriors

Sat 11 Oct: Ulster Rugby 29 - 9 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 31 Oct: Glasgow Warriors 17 - 9 Benetton Treviso

Fri 21 Nov: Scarlets 19 - 9 Glasgow Warriors

Sun 30 Nov: Glasgow Warriors 19 - 15 Newport Gwent Dragons

Sat 20 Dec: Glasgow Warriors 21 - 18 Munster Rugby

Sat 27 Dec: Glasgow Warriors 16 - 6 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 2 Jan: Edinburgh Rugby 20 - 8 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 9 Jan: Glasgow Warriors 22 - 7 Scarlets

2. European Results

18/10/14: Glasgow Warriors 37 - 10 Bath Rugby

25/10/14: Montpellier 13 - 15 Glasgow Warriors

7/12/14: Toulouse 19 - 11 Glasgow Warriors

13/12/14: Glasgow Warriors 9 - 12 Toulouse

18/01/2015: Glasgow Warriors 21 - 10 Montpellier

25/01/2015: Bath Rugby 20 - 15 Glasgow Warriors

[cp10]

Just found this guy playing for Stormers - Huw Jones

Born in Edinburgh.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huw_Jones_(rugby_union)

[alive555]

Watching John Hardie playing for highlanders
.quality player.

[TheMildlyFranticLlama]

Huw Richard Forbes Jones? He almost has enough names to be an Edinburgh player, maybe 1 or 2 short

[Second Ranker]

Edinburgh target Naiyaravoro, The Big Fijian, scored 2 tries and got a yellow card against the Rebels yesterday. Looks a good prospect and looks almost impossible to stop on a one on one. Could be a good signing.

[George Carlin]

The Smellies 4 points clear at the top, having won 2 more games than anyone else.

Proud of that. I honestly believe that our biggest threat at the moment is Munster.

If we can get any sort of points at all from the next game at the IIP, then I think we have one-foot in the playoffs.

[funnyExiledScot]

The Smellies 4 points clear at the top, having won 2 more games than anyone else.

Proud of that. I honestly believe that our biggest threat at the moment is Munster.

If we can get any sort of points at all from the next game at the IIP, then I think we have one-foot in the playoffs.

Lucky for you that you only have to face Edinburgh twice

Seriously though, Glasgow have learned how to win games across the squad. You guys could have easily lost tonight yet made it home (thanks to McKenzie...) whereas Edinburgh managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory last night. Winning is a habit, and well done soap dodgers.

[George Carlin]

https://www.606v2.com/t57827-munster-rugby-v-glasgow-warriors-28-february

[RDW]

The massive Fijian scored two tries for the 'Tahs this weekend

Well worth watching all of it (albeit some  terrible defending) but his tries are 6:30 and 9:00



https://youtu.be/Kp59MbXJ6Ko

A great line for the first one, and he looks near impossible to stop from close range.

If Edinburgh already have him it will be a hell of a steal, because I suspect he will go up in value significantly after his Super Rugby season!

[BigGee]

I see Naka has been cited for an alleged head but during the ospreys game. I did see it at the time and they reviewed it but deceided nothing to do. He might get in trouble here but probably at the lower end of the scale. Hopefully we can keep Mckenzie for another week or two, we might get to see Toolis as well.

[funnyExiledScot]

Oh dear, I really hope for Glasgow's sake that he doesn't face a long ban or anything of that sort. He is absolutely essential to the Glasgow pack.

McKenzie should complete the season at Glasgow. We have more than enough cover at Edinburgh and McKenzie could really use a run of games.

[justified sinner]

Oh dear, I really hope for Glasgow's sake that he doesn't face a long ban or anything of that sort. He is absolutely essential to the Glasgow pack.

McKenzie should complete the season at Glasgow. We have more than enough cover at Edinburgh and McKenzie could really use a run of games.

In principle Edinburgh have sufficient locks to lend McKenzie to Glasgow, in practice not at the moment. We have (in no particular order);

Bresler fine
Atkins fine
Gilchrist injured
Toolis B with Scotland
Toolis A on loan to Glasgow
McKenzie fine

So at the moment we only have three available locks. To put one out on loan would be madness. Once Gilchrist returns it's a possibility.

[funnyExiledScot]

We should get Alex Toolis back. It's only a bench role, with Bresler and Atkins more than likely to complete 80 minutes for us.

We may also get Ben Toolis back from Scotland duty, assuming Cotter continues to see Jim Hamilton as a better bet to start with Jonny Gray. On that note, I don't suspect there's a bookie in the land willing to take bets on Hamilton being yellow carded against Italy.

[Nematode]

Nakarawa cited - who was it that had to pay £100 to charity???

[cakeordeath]

Nakarawa cited - who was it that had to pay £100 to charity???

I think it was if anything came out of the citing, although I didn't make the bet, so can't remember the details

[Nematode]

Only thing with that giant Fijian is he seems a bit Visser-esq in that the commentators said (when he scored) it was practically his first time on the ball.

With Asam Ashely-Cooper going, I'm not too confident they'd want to let him go, esp with the RWC maybe taking Beale and Folau.

[cp10]

With Asam Ashely-Cooper going, I'm not too confident they'd want to let him go, esp with the RWC maybe taking Beale and Folau.

Super Rugby season ends at the end of June. It's whether he has a 2015 contract with National Rugby Championship team Greater Sydney Rams.

[WhiskyBluff]

Interested in getting peoples opinion on this.

Is it just me or is the current Pro12 league set up seem a bit strange. There is now next to no difference between finishing first or second now that the final venue is predetermined. I can understand why they made this decision as it leaves very little time to prepare for such a large event but say Glasgow finish 1st and ulster finish 4th but both get through to the final? it seems to take away the reward for being the most consistent team.

I think the trophy should go to the top team then maybe have play offs as a warm up before next season starts. or have a play off with the top teams of other leagues eg prem/top14.

[cakeordeath]

I would like to see the top team get the "league trophy" then the top 4 play for an additional honour.

[RDW]

I don't think the play off system is the problem - it is the fact that the Pro 12 is a multicultural league.

In England the final is always at Twickenham so you can plan every year, and there's no debate about who hosts it.

We need to try to find an acceptable solution for the final.

Worth pointing out the 1st place does get an advantage as they play the 4th team.

I don't think it would work if 1st place won the league and the rest played for something else - what would they play for??

[madmaccas]

Don't know if this has already been mentioned somewhere else, but Salford RL's Kiwi fullback Kevin Locke looks to be considering a move to Union and Scotland!

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/locke-linked-rugby-union-switch-8695309

He's only 25 and looks rapid, to say the least. Best of all he's Scottish Qualified!

Here are some old highlights:

[EWT Spoons]

The person commenting on the article doesn't seem to rate him

[madmaccas]

Meh, hard to tell who's writing that, a bit like reading some of the comments on the Scotsman.

He certainly looks dangerous though.

[cakeordeath]

RDW I am just trying to give Edinburgh something to play for, when the warriors top the league. Oh wait. My bad. The top 4, I got confused I thought it was bottom 4

[RDW]

Niggly groin injury requiring specialist attention - that should set off alarm bells!

[madmaccas]

Yeah, not ideal.

Maybe that's why Salford are looking to offload him...

"Mark Dodson, CEO of the Scottish RFU, confirmed at the start of last week there had been an approach from Salford to discuss Locke."

Or it could just be that he's unhappy and fancies a change. I can't see Koukash wanting anyone in his all star squad who didn't want to be there.

I'm sure though that the SRU would do due diligence regarding medicals etc.

Whatever happens this is an exciting prospect, especially with Maitland unable to score for love or money.

[Totalflanker]

Very interesting - full back...... logic would suggest he should be Edinburgh bound, so look forward to seeing him at Glasgow.

[funnyExiledScot]

Very interesting - full back...... logic would suggest he should be Edinburgh bound, so look forward to seeing him at Glasgow.

The Glasgow fullback has an attitude problem so they are probably trying to manage him out.

[George Carlin]

I am bored. Has anyone else noticed the following similarities:

            

A floppy haired Afghan hound        Mr David Denton

          

Mr Mark Dodson                      A used car salesman

     

Mr John Jeffrey                  Geoffrey from Rainbow

[madmaccas]

Further news about Locke.

Looks like they're making him a firm offer! How on earth did Scott Johnson get involved? What is his job now?

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/scots-make-move-kiwi-locke-8703378

[123456789]

Anyone else find it highly suspicious that the three high profile players leaving Glasgow all feature on this site?

http://www.rugbyprofiles.com/

[cakeordeath]

Can anyone point me to the story about Niko getting cited. I can't find it anywhere. Bonus points for video

Ok wrong Fijian

[123456789]

This would suggest it was Edinburgh who were interested, unless Glasgow have a specific requirement that their squad needs a Scottish qualified New Zealander who wants to play full-back but we play on the wing...

I think we'd be best off training him for the wing tbh he isn't going to displace Hogg anytime soon at international level. I'm also uneasy about luring him to play in the World Cup, it seems a bit unfair that he gets picked ahead of someone like Lamont who's played for Scotland literally for ever. Nevertheless having Hogg, Seymour, Maitland, Lamont, Visser, Brown, Fife and this Locke guy to choose from for the back 3 isn't a bad place to be.

"I qualify for Scotland and Tonga and had offers to switch codes and join Edinburgh before I signed for Salford. When I played against Scotland for the Kiwis in the 2013 World Cup quarter-final, one of the Scotland coaches mentioned to me that I should play for them, so you never know."

[George Carlin]

Locke’s problems with a troublesome groin injury have been well documented.

[George Carlin]

Anyone else find it highly suspicious that the three high profile players leaving Glasgow all feature on this site?

http://www.rugbyprofiles.com/

I had to stop reading. I couldn't get past the 3rd serious grammatical error in Josh Strauss' profile.

They are described as 'official CVs', so the players obviously have the same agent.

[123456789]

Locke’s problems with a troublesome groin injury have been well documented.

To be fair, he's not the only person to have an issue with Scott Johnson

[Nematode]

"Mark Dodson, the chief executive of the Scottish Rugby Union, has told MEN Sport that they... will be making him a contract offer to consider a cross code switch." MEN

Given Salford want to offload him and the SRU are giving him an offer, looks like a deal is pretty much done. Suppose they'll want to check out the medical requirements first.

[Nematode]

Anyone else find it highly suspicious that the three high profile players leaving Glasgow all feature on this site?

http://www.rugbyprofiles.com/

It's probably just their agent trying to drum up interest to haggle for a higher salary.

[George Carlin]

"Mark Dodson, the chief executive of the Scottish Rugby Union, has told MEN Sport that they... will be making him a contract offer to consider a cross code switch." MEN

Given Salford want to offload him and the SRU are giving him an offer, looks like a deal is pretty much done. Suppose they'll want to check out the medical requirements first.

Or they could just run a "Nikki Walker Check" and then go down the pub for lunchtime.

[123456789]

Which club will it be though? I suspect that Glasgow have the larger budget for next year but Edinburgh have a vastly inferior full-back.

[RDW]

Fullback in league is quite different from union - he looks like a winger to me, so suited to Glasgow.

[funnyExiledScot]

I am bored. Has anyone else noticed the following similarities:

            

A floppy haired Afghan hound        Mr David Denton

          

Mr Mark Dodson                      A used car salesman

     

Mr John Jeffrey                  Geoffrey from Rainbow

Marvellous work!!

[Majestic83]

From looking at his Twitter he has said to some Salford fans that he is staying.
Tbh if the sru are trying to tempt league players I'd prefer them to go for matty Russell.

[EWT Spoons]

From looking at his Twitter he has said to some Salford fans that he is staying.
Tbh if the sru are trying to tempt league players I'd prefer them to go for matty Russell.

I'm not all that disappointed by this (I also had a quick look at his twitter account and he seems adamant he's going nowhere). I'm sure he's a good player, but he really doesn't seem all that fussed about playing for Scotland. The quote that keeps getting mentioned about him playing against Scotland and someone mentioning he should play for us, really just seems like he doesn't really want to, but might consider it, if we could convince him.

Plus his injury record is far from ideal.

[RDW]

I don't know how much we can read into his comments, because all it might mean is that it is far from a done deal and he's not wanting to burn any bridges with the club and fans.

Or, it really is all nonsense and he isn't going anywhere...

Think Steve Shingler - he was tweeting about how Scottish he was, and even used the hashtag #jockforlife then a week later found out that he couldn't play for Scotland and had to stay with Wales!

[MacKnocked-on]

From looking at his Twitter he has said to some Salford fans that he is staying.
Tbh if the sru are trying to tempt league players I'd prefer them to go for matty Russell.

I'm not all that disappointed by this (I also had a quick look at his twitter account and he seems adamant he's going nowhere).  I'm sure he's a good player, but he really doesn't seem all that fussed about playing for Scotland.  The quote that keeps getting mentioned about him playing against Scotland and someone mentioning he should play for us, really just seems like he doesn't really want to, but might consider it, if we could convince him.

Plus his injury record is far from ideal.

Was very impressed by Russell when watching him in the RL World Cup, he's fast and very elusive and I'm sure he would score tries in Union. Born in Ayr so certainly worth the SRU keeping tabs on him. I know the SRU approached Danny Brough a number of years ago but he wasn't interested in switching code.
Locke does look a fantastic player though and would be a very exciting player to watch, just the sort that the Glasgow fans could do with the departure of Niko and Maitland?

[RDW]

Born in Ayr

Why did nobody say so?? Sign him up!!

Just thought I'd get in there before FES

[George Carlin]

Born in Ayr

Why did nobody say so?? Sign him up!!

Just thought I'd get in there before FES

[RDW]

It certainly doesn't - you love it!

[tigertattie]

As it has now been identified that the boy was born in Ayr he is now automatically given a place in our world cup starting XV!

[R!skysports]

As it has now been identified that the boy was born in Ayr he is now automatically given a place in our world cup starting XV!

Captain, no less...

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