6N Round 1: France v Scotland, 7 February

by **George Carlin** Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:27 am

First topic message reminder :

FRANCE v SCOTLAND
Saturday 7 February 2015
KO 17:00 (GMT)/18:00 (local)
Stade de France, Paris

Live on BBC1.

Referee: Nigel Owens (WRU)
Touch Judge 1: Glen Jackson (NZR)
Touch Judge 2: Mike Fraser (NZR)
TMO: George Ayoub (ARU)

A. Teams:

1. France
6N Round 1: France v Scotland, 7 February - Page 4 Laetit10

6N Round 1: France v Scotland, 7 February - Page 4 Laetit10

15 Scott Spedding (Bayonne)
14 Yoann Huget (Toulouse)
13 Mathieu Bastareaud (Toulon)
12 Wesley Fofana (Clermont)
11 Teddy Thomas (Racing Metro)
10 Camille Lopez (Clermont)
09 Rory Kockott (Castres)

01 Alexandre Menini (Toulon)
02 Guilhem Guirado (Toulon)
03 Rabah Slimani (Stade Francais)
04 Pascal Papé (Stade Francais)
05 Yoann Maestri (Toulouse)
06 Thierry Dusautoir (c) (Toulouse)
07 Bernard Le Roux (Racing Metro)
08 Damien Chouly (Clermont )

16 Benjamin Kayser (Clermont)
17 Uini Atonio (La Rochelle)
18 Eddy Ben Arous (Racing Metro)
19 Romain Taofifenua (Toulon)
20 Loann Goujon (La Rochelle)
21 Morgan Parra (Clermont)
22 Rémi Talès (Castres)
23 Rémi Lamerat (Castres)

2. Scotland
6N Round 1: France v Scotland, 7 February - Page 4 Gisell10

6N Round 1: France v Scotland, 7 February - Page 4 Gisell10

15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors)
14 Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors)
13 Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors)
12 Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors)
11 Tim Visser (Edinburgh Rugby)
10 Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors)
9 Greig Laidlaw CAPTAIN (Gloucester)

1 Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby)
2 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby)
3 Euan Murray (Glasgow Warriors)
4 Richie Gray (Castres)
5 Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors)
6 Rob Harley (Glasgow Warriors)
7 Blair Cowan (London Irish)
8 Johnnie Beattie (Castres)

16 Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors)
17 Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors)
18 Geoff Cross (London Irish)
19 Jim Hamilton (Saracens)
20 Alasdair Strokosch (USA Perpignan)
21 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne (Edinburgh Rugby)
22 Peter Horne (Glasgow Warriors)
23 Dougie Fife (Edinburgh Rugby)

B. Tournament Form (last 3 games):

1. France

15/3/14 - France 20 - 22 Ireland

8/3/14 - Scotland 17 - 19 France

21/2/14 - Wales 27 - 6 France

2. Scotland

15/3/14 - Wales 51 - 3 Scotland

8/3/14 - Scotland 17 - 19 France

22/2/14 - Italy 20 - 21 Scotland

C. Head to Head:

87 Played 87
50 Wins 34
34 Losses 50
3 Draws 3
153 Tries 132
78 Conversions 70
119 Penalties 127
28 Drop Goals 15
1,228 Points 1,049

by **RDW** Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:20 am

Has Seymour played 15 at all for Glasgow? I don't remember it.

He'll have the positional awareness and skills - wingers cover at fullback when the fullback is out the line - but I've never really seen him kick for territory, which is a big part of an International fullback's game.

I'd prefer Tonks, even though he's being playing at 10 recently.

by TJ Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:27 am

Its about getting your best players on the pitch why we end up with players out of position. Shlong tho FFS -does he have detailed blackmail files on the SRU? No one tries harder but no 90 cap players have so little talent.

by **George Carlin** Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:27 am

150 posts and we aren't even a week away.
Well done, everyone. Hug

by TJ Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:28 am

George Carlin wrote:150 posts and we aren't even a week away.
Well done, everyone.

iot really does amuse me the scots threads - a fair bit of good rugby knoledge, little infighting, loads of ridiculous digressions to bump up the post count.

by jimbopip Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:32 am

So to paraphrase Fes; play the Glasgow 15. If he's unfit play the other Glasgow 15. If he's not fit play the third choice Glasgow 15. If he's not fit and if you really need to have a full back take one of the Luvvies, doesn't matter which one.
Has Schiz hijacked your account by any chance?
Or has the second under butler gained access to the communications hub?

by Nematode Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:45 am

Why isn't Fife being mentioned? Didn't he play FB for Currie?

by teh_Dingmeister Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:10 pm

Fife might be unfairly impacted by the Wales match from last year when he had to cover wing/fullback.

If it was Visser, Lamont and Seymour that leaves Scotland pretty short for kicking options. Visser is the only one out of those I see kick semi-frequently though maybe that's due to Embra's tactics under Solomons. The French have definitely got the edge in the back 3 though if that's how the lineup will be.

by tigertattie Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:21 pm

Apparently they are recalling Bruce Douglas and he's going to be playing on the wing!

by TJ Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:25 pm

Cuthbert at FB? OK he is a bit of an oil tanker but he has improved his reputation over the last season at Edinburgh.

by **RDW** Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:29 pm

Cotter said he will be picking from the current squad, so Murchie and Cuthbert aren't viable options unless there are more injuries.

by RuggerRadge2611 Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:39 pm

George Carlin wrote:Absolutely - topics to be discussed in the intervening two weeks surely have to include:

- what Alive555 really gets up to living in Bangkok;
- whether GLove really does get sunburned watching fireworks;
- why Numbers has been ignoring us all recently;
- whether we can convince Asbo and Schiz to re-join the group for this tournament;
- why MacKnocked-on chose that as a user name;
- how big BigGee actually is;
- why teh_Dingmeister cannot correct the spelling mistake in his user name;
- where Nematode is now that he's been forced to move from Edinburgh's pitch;
- how much tigertattie likes BVC;
- why EWT Spoons is called EWT Spoons and WTF that actually means;
- what cakeordeath's favourite cake is;
- whether there is any truth to the rumour that highland_scot cannot post more frequently due to the sporadic nature of internet connection in the Highlands;
- what jimbopip thinks about DevoMax;
- how young Bru's stones are currently getting on;
- whether who cares is French, actually Scottish or a hard drinking hybrid of the two;
- whether Bsando has worked through his complicated heritage issues and decided whether to be an Aussie or a Jock;
- what the riskiest sport is that Riskysports has ever tried;
- why lostinwales doesn't just use the satnav on his phone to get out of Wales;
- what Radge thinks is the best thing about Dunfermline;
- whether madmaccas has punched an old woman, urinated in a shop's cash register or done anything properly, certifiably mad;
- whether CP10 lives in Stockbridge or somewhere that, well, just isn't as good as Stockbridge;
- what Miss Dotty Mantooth thinks about life;
- how Maj knows so freakishly much about Scots players and whether, in fact, he uses his brainpower for anything else;
- whether Baby FES has already asked her dad if her formula milk is organic;
- why Prothero chose to live in Salisbury;
- why TheMildlyFranticLlama doesn't already have 3 pubs named after him;
- why RDW cannot stop making fun of Sean Maitland;
- whether TattieScones believes that Frankie Boyle really should have been banned from television.

That should tide us over.

Discuss.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-31024282

It has 2 Tescos. Kirkcaldy is really being sucked down into the tenth level of hell, pretty glad to have gotten out of it.

by RuggerRadge2611 Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:41 pm

Onto out team. We seem to be utterly hamstrung by our options at Blindside and number 8. Brown's non selection and Dozer's injury couldn't have come at a worse time to be honest.

by **BigGee** Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:58 pm

If Seymour was to play at FB and you can see how he could be a devastating open field runner, then maybe Fyfe and Visser will play on the wings. DF has looked pretty good all season and would be ahead of SL in my pecking order. I could see Tonks and Lamont being the bench options as they cover the whole back line. Matt Scott may not even be in the 23, which sounds unbelievable but on form is probably about right. He will get some game time though, there are bound to be some injuries at some stage.

by GLove39 Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:49 pm

Fullback is a bit of a dilemma. GC, is your Uncle Dougie free next weekend? Or is he flyering for UKIP again?

by tigertattie Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:35 pm

ins't uncle dougie the only non english member of the EDL?

by funnyExiledScot Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:15 pm

jimbopip wrote:So to paraphrase Fes; play the Glasgow 15. If he's unfit play the other Glasgow 15. If he's not fit play the third choice Glasgow 15. If he's not fit and if you really need to have a full back take one of the Luvvies, doesn't matter which one.
Has Schiz hijacked your account by any chance?
Or has the second under butler gained access to the communications hub?

Our first choice 15 is Jack Cuthbert. I'd probably select Al Kellock at 15 ahead of him. Better under the high ball, marginally quicker and the leadership, oh the leadership.....

by funnyExiledScot Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:16 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Cotter said he will be picking from the current squad, so Murchie and Cuthbert aren't viable options unless there are more injuries.

In which case I agree that Tonks would be the right choice. Fingers crossed Hogg is fit!!

by funnyExiledScot Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:17 pm

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:Onto out team. We seem to be utterly hamstrung by our options at Blindside and number 8. Brown's non selection and Dozer's injury couldn't have come at a worse time to be honest.

Beattie is fit and in the squad and I'm not sure there's a big gap between Denton and Beattie. We do really need Harley to be fit though.

by tigertattie Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:50 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:
RuggerRadge2611 wrote:Onto out team. We seem to be utterly hamstrung by our options at Blindside and number 8. Brown's non selection and Dozer's injury couldn't have come at a worse time to be honest.

Beattie is fit and in the squad and I'm not sure there's a big gap between Denton and Beattie. We do really need Harley to be fit though.

Aye, Denton and Beattie are a similar standard. Not that big a loss losing dozer and getting the JB Jnr. Both are fine players! They are no Ally Hogg but sufficient!

by funnyExiledScot Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:55 pm

tigertattie wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
RuggerRadge2611 wrote:Onto out team. We seem to be utterly hamstrung by our options at Blindside and number 8. Brown's non selection and Dozer's injury couldn't have come at a worse time to be honest.

Beattie is fit and in the squad and I'm not sure there's a big gap between Denton and Beattie. We do really need Harley to be fit though.

Aye, Denton and Beattie are a similar standard. Not that big a loss losing dozer and getting the JB Jnr. Both are fine players! They are no Ally Hogg but sufficient!

True, and don't get me started on Adam Ashe. There are no superlatives to do the little whippersnapper justice...

by **George Carlin** Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:00 pm

GLove39 wrote:Fullback is a bit of a dilemma. GC, is your Uncle Dougie free next weekend? Or is he flyering for UKIP again?

He's got 'sneering at foreign food', 'not opening his front door' and 'not learning French' pencilled into his diary for that day.

by **RDW** Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:06 pm

George Carlin wrote:
GLove39 wrote:Fullback is a bit of a dilemma. GC, is your Uncle Dougie free next weekend? Or is he flyering for UKIP again?

He's got 'sneering at foreign food', 'not opening his front door' and 'not learning French' pencilled into his diary for that day.

That's commitment to the cause, putting in your diary that you won't learn French that day. Can't have it happening by accident now!

by funnyExiledScot Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:20 pm

Who needs French? Nothing wrong with shouting slowly in English. Tried and tested.

by GLove39 Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:15 pm

10 second French lesson here, all you'll ever need
https://youtu.be/-r7dveDEv-I?t=11s thumbsup

by Nematode Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:42 pm

Just been watching this short clip featuring highlights of Jason White.

We could sure do with him in the team!

by Anglobraveheart Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:19 pm

I was at Murrayfield in 2008, for the match against the Auld Enemy.
Jason came on as a second half sub, VERY charged up and ready. Paul Sackey (I think) took an inside run off his wing, and you could see he fancied his chances. He hadn't however seen our man Jason, who introduced himself, it appeared, around halfway.
When Paul landed, he was back over his 10m line. Very effective, and you could see our boys grow and the rose boys demeanour visibly wilt in the fine fresh spring air. Beautiful.

by **RDW** Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:49 am

AS I said earlier in the thread, Satin-Andre has named 23 players to be rested from this weekend's fixtures (what does whocares know about French rugby anyway Very Happy

)

He's gone for 14 forwards and 9 backs:

FORWARDS (14)

Pillars:
1- UINI Atonio - ATLANTIC STAGE ROCHELAIS
2- Eddy Ben Arous - RACING METRO 92
3- Nicolas MAS - MONTPELLIER HERAULT RUGBY
4- Alexandre MENINI - RC Toulon
5- Rabah SLIMANI - STADE FRENCH PARIS

Hookers:
6- Guilhem GUIRADO - RC Toulon
7- Benjamin Kayser - ASM Clermont Auvergne

2nd line:
8- Yoann MAESTRI - TOULOUSE
9- Pascal PAPE - STADE FRENCH PARIS
10- Romain Taofifénua - RC Toulon

3rd lines:
11- Damien CHOULY - ASM Clermont Auvergne
12- Thierry DUSAUTOIR - STADE TOULOUSE (C)
13- Loann STUD - ROCHELAIS ATLANTIC STAGE
14- Bernard LE ROUX - RACING METRO 92

THREE QUARTERS (9)

Scrum halves:
15- Rory Kockott - CASTRES OLYMPIQUE
16- Morgan PARRA - ASM Clermont Auvergne

Demis opening:
17- Camille LOPEZ - ASM Clermont Auvergne
18- Rémi TALES - CASTRES OLYMPIQUE

Centres:
19- Bastareaud - RC Toulon
20- Wesley Fofana - ASM Clermont Auvergne

Wingers:
21- Yoann HUGET - TOULOUSE
22- Teddy THOMAS - RACING METRO 92

Rear:
23- Scott SPEDDING - ROWING BAYONNAIS

by funnyExiledScot Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:03 am

Loann Stud - that is a great name.

Lopez and Tales - France finally look to be sorting out their issues at 10, and form or not form, Fofana and Bastereaud will give us problems, as will that back three.

Praying to God that Harley and Hogg are fit to start. The Gray brothers together at lock and Harley at 6 forms the core of the pack, and will make life difficult for France.

by whocares Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:07 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:AS I said earlier in the thread, Satin-Andre has named 23 players to be rested from this weekend's fixtures (what does whocares know about French rugby anyway )

He's gone for 14 forwards and 9 backs:

FORWARDS (14)

Pillars:
1- UINI Atonio - ATLANTIC STAGE ROCHELAIS
2- Eddy Ben Arous - RACING METRO 92
3- Nicolas MAS - MONTPELLIER HERAULT RUGBY
4- Alexandre MENINI - RC Toulon
5- Rabah SLIMANI - STADE FRENCH PARIS

Hookers:
6- Guilhem GUIRADO - RC Toulon
7- Benjamin Kayser - ASM Clermont Auvergne

2nd line:
8- Yoann MAESTRI - TOULOUSE
9- Pascal PAPE - STADE FRENCH PARIS
10- Romain Taofifénua - RC Toulon

3rd lines:
11- Damien CHOULY - ASM Clermont Auvergne
12- Thierry DUSAUTOIR - STADE TOULOUSE (C)
13- Loann STUD - ROCHELAIS ATLANTIC STAGE
14- Bernard LE ROUX - RACING METRO 92

THREE QUARTERS (9)

Scrum halves:
15- Rory Kockott - CASTRES OLYMPIQUE
16- Morgan PARRA - ASM Clermont Auvergne

Demis opening:
17- Camille LOPEZ - ASM Clermont Auvergne
18- Rémi TALES - CASTRES OLYMPIQUE

Centres:
19- Bastareaud - RC Toulon
20- Wesley Fofana - ASM Clermont Auvergne

Wingers:
21- Yoann HUGET - TOULOUSE
22- Teddy THOMAS - RACING METRO 92

Rear:
23- Scott SPEDDING - ROWING BAYONNAIS

it doesnt mean that those players will be the final squad though !
some needed game time (Dumoulin) so might/should come back (need another centre anyway) and there is also 3 tightheads in that list so one would have to go while someone like Tillous Bordes could also be in the final squad if he recovers.

also what's with the dodgy translatation Wink

by jimbopip Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:19 pm

From that 23 the back 5 picks itself. On current form Dunbar-Bennett are a match for Bastareaud-Fofana. If we're up quick on the walking wardrobe we can stop the ball getting out to their back three IF we have a back row that can compete. Harley-Beattie-Cowan could do that job, but if JB has been with his club this week I wonder who has been training at 8.
If we can stop their back row getting quick ball out they will have to start kicking to our back three. If that's Seymour-Hogg-McVisser then we could be in for a jolly evening in front of the telly. However, Schlong-Tonks-Fife and it might be a long old night.
Maestri-Pape versus Gray and Gray? I see us being competitive to say the least. Harley and Beattie would also offer options at the back of the line out.
We can win this. Braveheart

by **George Carlin** Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:24 pm

whocares wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:AS I said earlier in the thread, Satin-Andre has named 23 players to be rested from this weekend's fixtures (what does whocares know about French rugby anyway )

He's gone for 14 forwards and 9 backs:

FORWARDS (14)

Pillars:
1- UINI Atonio - ATLANTIC STAGE ROCHELAIS
2- Eddy Ben Arous - RACING METRO 92
3- Nicolas MAS - MONTPELLIER HERAULT RUGBY
4- Alexandre MENINI - RC Toulon
5- Rabah SLIMANI - STADE FRENCH PARIS

Hookers:
6- Guilhem GUIRADO - RC Toulon
7- Benjamin Kayser - ASM Clermont Auvergne

2nd line:
8- Yoann MAESTRI - TOULOUSE
9- Pascal PAPE - STADE FRENCH PARIS
10- Romain Taofifénua - RC Toulon

3rd lines:
11- Damien CHOULY - ASM Clermont Auvergne
12- Thierry DUSAUTOIR - STADE TOULOUSE (C)
13- Loann STUD - ROCHELAIS ATLANTIC STAGE
14- Bernard LE ROUX - RACING METRO 92

THREE QUARTERS (9)

Scrum halves:
15- Rory Kockott - CASTRES OLYMPIQUE
16- Morgan PARRA - ASM Clermont Auvergne

Demis opening:
17- Camille LOPEZ - ASM Clermont Auvergne
18- Rémi TALES - CASTRES OLYMPIQUE

Centres:
19- Bastareaud - RC Toulon
20- Wesley Fofana - ASM Clermont Auvergne

Wingers:
21- Yoann HUGET - TOULOUSE
22- Teddy THOMAS - RACING METRO 92

Rear:
23- Scott SPEDDING - ROWING BAYONNAIS

it doesnt mean that those players will be the final squad though !
some needed game time (Dumoulin) so might/should come back (need another centre anyway) and there is also 3 tightheads in that list so one would have to go while someone like Tillous Bordes could also be in the final squad if he recovers.

also what's with the dodgy translatation

Eddy, Teddy, Rory, Wesley and Scott.

Got to love traditional French boys' names.

by highland_scot Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:32 pm

Teddy sounds like he would be at home in the Stockbridge Lawn Tennis Club with FES.

by funnyExiledScot Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:57 pm

We have two Teddy's in the club. Teddy Picklesworth and Teddy Farquarson-Smythe. I can vouch for them both - tippy top fellows.

by **George Carlin** Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:19 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:We have two Teddy's in the club. Teddy Picklesworth and Teddy Farquarson-Smythe. I can vouch for them both - tippy top fellows.

Surely the first one is a porn star name?

by funnyExiledScot Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:22 pm

George Carlin wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:We have two Teddy's in the club. Teddy Picklesworth and Teddy Farquarson-Smythe. I can vouch for them both - tippy top fellows.
Surely the first one is a porn star name?

An interesting Friday titbit of information, but my porn star name is a follows:

Flossie Hepburn.

Flossie - name of first pet
Hepburn - mum's maiden name

by **RDW** Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:25 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:
George Carlin wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:We have two Teddy's in the club. Teddy Picklesworth and Teddy Farquarson-Smythe. I can vouch for them both - tippy top fellows.
Surely the first one is a porn star name?

An interesting Friday titbit of information, but my porn star name is a follows:

Flossie Hepburn.

Flossie - name of first pet
Hepburn - mum's maiden name

You do know these things are commonly used on social media by scammers to hack into people's accounts - first pet and maiden name are common security questions!

by funnyExiledScot Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:32 pm

Luckily for me they are not my security questions on any of my accounts. Mine is "what was your favourite subject at school?" - Home economics, obviously.

Anyway, to hack into my Coutts account you need a thumb print and retina scan. None of this online nonsense.

by IanBru Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:30 pm

I always thought it was your middle name + the name of the street you grew up on, hence:

Donald Snowdenham.

...Ladies.

by R!skysports Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:35 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:Luckily for me they are not my security questions on any of my accounts. Mine is "what was your favourite subject at school?" - Home economics, obviously.

Anyway, to hack into my Coutts account you need a thumb print and retina scan. None of this online nonsense.

I thought it was thrashing Tarqin with the old willow bat

by lostinwales Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:43 pm

IanBru wrote:I always thought it was your middle name + the name of the street you grew up on, hence:

Donald Snowdenham.

...Ladies.

Would you believe, Randle North?

by **George Carlin** Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:58 pm

James Gailes. Really dull.

As an aside, there really is a street in Oxford very close to where I used to live called 'Squitchey Lane'. Really. Squitchey Lane.

I love it.

by Guest Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:16 pm

GC

How about Fannyhands Lane in Ludford, Lincs?

by Manky-Flanker Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:22 pm

A former colleague of mine had a great pet/maiden name combo:

"Flip Flop Le Coq"

Laugh

by jimbopip Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:05 pm

Gerard CooCaddens. Whistle

by **George Carlin** Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:10 pm

BMBiker wrote:GC

How about Fannyhands Lane in Ludford, Lincs?

BM Biker - that's the best first post you could have made on this forum. Laugh

Welcome to the swamp of madness.

by Nematode Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:12 pm

Anyone know when the team will be announced? Thursday maybe?

by Prothero Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:14 pm

Kinda ready for it now, its the waiting that's torture. A new 6 nations is like a wrapped present on x-mas morn, all full of promise and mystery.

There's nothing like waking up hungover on a Saturday morning, realizing that the games start in two hours and you have to get to the pub for 1 Very Happy

by **RDW** Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:36 am

Ryan Grant has been added to the Scotland squad.

He's served his time on the naughty step.

by **George Carlin** Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:55 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Ryan Grant has been added to the Scotland squad.

He's served his time on the naughty step.

Besides, unless you unhook his mask, you need someone like Bane in the scrum.

by 123456789 Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:16 am

I suspect that was the plan all along

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