Culture Cup 2.0 Round 6

by Mind the windows Tino. Wed 10 Jun 2015, 3:18 pm

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Round 5 is over and what a controversial round it was. The big winners were Stella with Definitely Maybe and Beadle with Grace who both pick up maximum points. All is not what it seems though. Tactical voting from at least 2 people (myself and Jeff) and possibly more meant that Grace was able to claim joint first place. There is just never any reason for Definitely Maybe to be in a discussion about greatest debut albums. Never. It has crushed my soul to think that people believe that. But hey, what do I know. Apparently it’s “musically important”. Who would have thought it. I thought it was just important for sales of Parka coats. I’m deeply fond of Stella but he deserves to be locked in a room with SerialDAVE for an hour as punishment. Locked in a room after SerialDAVE has just been snubbed by the whole of SLAYER. GrumpyG*lfer had a solid round with The Who, picking up 8 points. A great round for Paul as his 6 points for the Sex Pistols means he has joined Hero at the top of the league. A massive zero for Hero (see what I did there?) means a few posters have closed the gap on our reigning champion. Sean would have had a storming round, but he is too dim to comprehend simple questions and as such, nominated Slim Shady which fell outside the criteria. Shame. Union Cane managed to pick up some votes for Force & Styles which will cheer him up after getting nothing in the last round his favourite film of all time, The Iron Lady. Big news in the battle between Jeff and ~~Mel Gibson~~ superfly. Jeff, somewhat surprisingly, got nothing for the Gilded Palace of Sin whereas ‘Fly got a solid 5 points for The Stone Roses (which he only picked to sh*t on Jeff) meaning he leaps above his arch rival in the table. No holds barred in that particular scrap. Poor old Galted. No votes or points for him again but don’t worry, he has procured a new pair of cargo pants and laces for his Hi-Tecs so has a spring in his step regardless. No points for SerialDAVE with his pick, which is probably bad news for Bradford’s prostitute population.

Here is the updated league table:

1) Hero 30 pts
2) Paul 30 pts
3) Trebs 27 pts
4) C&R 24 pts
5) The Boss 24 pts
6) GumpyG*lfer 22 pts
7) Ziggler 21 pts
8) Fat Head Adam 21 pts
9) Harrier 19 pts
10) Michaels 16 pts
11) weeman 16 pts
12) Beadle 16 pts
13) Azzy 14 pts
14) Shah abu-bakr 12 pts
15) Stella 12 pts
16) Nakatomi 11 pts
17) SerialDAVE 9 pts
18) superfly 9 pts
19) Jeff 8 pts
20) Jules 8 pts
21) Union Cane 7 pts
22) Dagless 7 pts
23) Ray Mears big fat zero pts

Round 6 is back to books so please see the poll for WHAT IS THE BEST SPORT THEMED BOOK EVER?

Disclaimer: Dolphin Ziggler would like the forum to know that everyone that chooses “Fever Pitch” (which was a lot of you to be fair) is a

Ziggler wrote:complete c*nt.

And –

Ziggles wrote:I want that opinion made clear in the thread’s introduction

Remember, IT’S OPEN FOR ALL OF 606v2 TO VOTE.

Thanks.

by Rowley Thu 11 Jun 2015, 10:19 am

superflyweight wrote:
Rowley wrote:Dark Trade, I despair at the folk on here sometimes. Most over rated boxing book ever written.

Don't know if it's overrated or not (certainly not as overrated as Four Kings), but I think it's a genuinely good book. I quite like Macrae's style and his ability as an interviewer to get past someone's public face. Christ, he even manages to make James Toney an almost sympathetic character.

By no means the best book on boxing but head and shoulders above the run of the mill biographies and stuff like Jacob's Beach or anything by Thomas Hauser.

I may be being a little harsh when it comes to Dark Trade, it just seems to be one of those books where its appeal and popularity has endured and for me I could not really see why. Enjoyed it well enough but not to the point where I have ever really felt a desire to revisit it in the intervening period. Probably a bit of a prejudice on my part, I tend not to enjoy those collected works or books that are brief chapters on a certain fighter, tends to whet my appetite for more details or a full biography, which they don’t provide. Felt the same about Ringside by Schulberg, which people seemed to enjoy far more than I recall doing.

You're right about Hauser though, his Ali biography reads like a Manny book written by D4

by Azzy Thu 11 Jun 2015, 10:23 am

Fever Pitch is a good book, and anyone who dislikes it simply hates Arsenal. I like the book, hate Arsenal, hate Colin Firth (he's on my wife's laminated list) but love Mark Strong. I assume that makes me a moron but coming from Dolph that's more like a compliment.

by Guest Thu 11 Jun 2015, 10:45 am

I simply hate Nick Hornby and his personal belief that he alone "gets" what it means to be a man...then writes something as f*cking atrocious as "High Fidelity"...c*nt. Fever Pitch can stuff itself up its own arse.

Tony Parsons is another I play with my 2inch cock of that ilk as is Mike Gayle, apparently man's answer to Helen Fielding (the silly b!tch who wrote the Bridget Jones cr*p). Who the f*ck needs that?

by **seanmichaels** Thu 11 Jun 2015, 10:51 am

Don't forget Jessica Fletcher Dave. She wouldn't know a murder from her banjo string.

by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 11 Jun 2015, 11:08 am

DAVE667 wrote:I simply hate Nick Hornby and his personal belief that he alone "gets" what it means to be a man...then writes something as f*cking atrocious as "High Fidelity"...c*nt. Fever Pitch can stuff itself up its own arse.

Tony Parsons is another I play with my 2inch man sausage of that ilk as is Mike Gayle, apparently man's answer to Helen Fielding (the silly b!tch who wrote the Bridget Jones cr*p). Who the f*ck needs that?

Deliciously angry post, Serial. Even by your standards.

That's why I have so much love for you.

by The Womble Thu 11 Jun 2015, 11:14 am

DAVE667 wrote:I simply hate Nick Hornby and his personal belief that he alone "gets" what it means to be a man...then writes something as f*cking atrocious as "High Fidelity"...c*nt. Fever Pitch can stuff itself up its own arse.

Tony Parsons is another I play with my 2inch man sausage of that ilk as is Mike Gayle, apparently man's answer to Helen Fielding (the silly b!tch who wrote the Bridget Jones cr*p). Who the f*ck needs that?

That is a post full of anger! I love it!

by **Galted** Thu 11 Jun 2015, 11:27 am

I still suspect SerialDAVE is really David Mitchell.

by Guest Thu 11 Jun 2015, 11:31 am

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:I simply hate Nick Hornby and his personal belief that he alone "gets" what it means to be a man...then writes something as f*cking atrocious as "High Fidelity"...c*nt. Fever Pitch can stuff itself up its own arse.

Tony Parsons is another I play with my 2inch man sausage of that ilk as is Mike Gayle, apparently man's answer to Helen Fielding (the silly b!tch who wrote the Bridget Jones cr*p). Who the f*ck needs that?

Deliciously angry post, Serial. Even by your standards.

That's why I have so much love for you.

But not enough to bung me a spare/wasted Slim Shady vote on the debut album round....LIKE YOU PROMISED!?!?!?!?!?!

Actually feel alright today...my kids have been well behaved, the sun's shining, I'm a week and a bit into this new sensible eating and exercise lark and no real ill effects (I'm trying to avoid being the physical calamity I picture Sean to be)

by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 11 Jun 2015, 11:32 am

Galted wrote:I still suspect SerialDAVE is really David Mitchell.

There are huge similarities actually.

Although David Mitchell is one of the only people in the world I would fancy my chances at duffing up. Not so sure I could give Serial a shoeing.

by Guest Thu 11 Jun 2015, 11:35 am

Galted wrote:I still suspect SerialDAVE is really David Mitchell.

Definitely not, during an episode of Peep Show, Mitchell's character talks about watching the "quite frankly over-rated 'The Wire'" Offended me mightily that did. Also, if I was Mitchell I'd have told my wife to do something about her alternately greasy/wispy looking hair. You're my property woman and I will NOT have you appearing on tv looking like a slightly rumpled albeit moderately expensive wh*re

by Guest Thu 11 Jun 2015, 11:37 am

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
Galted wrote:I still suspect SerialDAVE is really David Mitchell.

There are huge similarities actually.

Although David Mitchell is one of the only people in the world I would fancy my chances at duffing up. Not so sure I could give Serial a shoeing.

Do you reckon you could swap David Mitchell and kick the f*ck out of Jon Richardson instead? Now he DOES deserve to be beaten regularly. Horrid little hobbit of a man.

by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 11 Jun 2015, 11:38 am

DAVE667 wrote:looking like a slightly rumpled albeit moderately expensive wh*re

Let's face it Serial, if she looked anything like a wh*re, you'd have staved her face in with a claw hammer by now.

by Rowley Thu 11 Jun 2015, 11:39 am

Dave is absolutely right about Hornby. Fever Pitch also buys into and perpetuates the misguided belief that football did not exist before Sky invented it and convinced middle aged bell ends like him it was acceptable to admit to liking the sport.. He is a cockwomble and the book is drivel.

by Azzy Thu 11 Jun 2015, 11:41 am

How the hell does he do that when all the football he mentions takes place well before the PL existed? If anything he perpetuates the exact opposite.

by Guest Thu 11 Jun 2015, 11:48 am

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:looking like a slightly rumpled albeit moderately expensive wh*re

Let's face it Serial, if she looked anything like a wh*re, you'd have staved her face in with a claw hammer by now.

That's isn't my M.O.....you're thinking about the OTHER lad from Bradford.

by **seanmichaels** Thu 11 Jun 2015, 11:48 am

DAVE667 wrote: (I'm trying to avoid being the physical calamity I picture Sean to be)

Nothing wrong with a dodgy knee, slight gut (albeit rapidly reducing) and a shot liver

by **seanmichaels** Thu 11 Jun 2015, 11:50 am

Rowley wrote:Dave is absolutely right about Hornby. Fever Pitch also buys into and perpetuates the misguided belief that football did not exist before Sky invented it and convinced middle aged bell ends like him it was acceptable to admit to liking the sport.. He is a cockwomble and the book is drivel.

Middle class people shouldn't be allowed to post on c*ntbook about football.

by Guest Thu 11 Jun 2015, 11:52 am

seanmichaels wrote:
DAVE667 wrote: (I'm trying to avoid being the physical calamity I picture Sean to be)

Nothing wrong with a dodgy knee, slight gut (albeit rapidly reducing) and a shot liver

You say that but I left my ex when she developed those exact same symptoms, I say "left", I mean "took her into the woods and left her body for the animals to gnaw on".

by **seanmichaels** Thu 11 Jun 2015, 11:56 am

I read an article entitled '10 celebrities killed by animals' this morning. Quite a good read bar the bit about ~~the bloke who dresses like Galted~~ Steve Irwin.

by **superflyweight** Thu 11 Jun 2015, 12:36 pm

Rowley wrote:Dave is absolutely right about Hornby. Fever Pitch also buys into and perpetuates the misguided belief that football did not exist before Sky invented it and convinced middle aged bell ends like him it was acceptable to admit to liking the sport.. He is a cockwomble and the book is drivel.

I'm no fan of Fever Pitch (but did have a go at nominating it to grab the populist vote) but I think it's the people who read the book that are the problem rather than the book itself. Hornby is nothing if he's not an obsessive and the book is about the lengths that fans go to in order to support their team and is a long way removed from middle class bell-ends sitting in a gastro pub occasionally checking the score on a muted TV. Sky Sports, Gazza crying and Euro '96 are essentially to blame for all that is wrong about modern football and if anything, Fever Pitch harks back to an era that is sadly gone.

Don't vote for it though - its only alright.

by Rowley Thu 11 Jun 2015, 12:45 pm

It was not the content of the book I particularly objected to, although like you I thought it was alright rather than outstanding, it was more than whole thing that it is now alright to admit to being into football it kind of buys into. Also generally don't like books about how into a thing you are, be it fever pitch or indeed high fidelity.

by **superflyweight** Thu 11 Jun 2015, 12:56 pm

Looks like ancient celebrities are dying all over the place today. Has anyone heard from Jules?

by **seanmichaels** Thu 11 Jun 2015, 1:24 pm

Euro '96 was fecking brilliant?!?!?!?

by **superflyweight** Thu 11 Jun 2015, 1:35 pm

seanmichaels wrote:Euro '96 was fecking brilliant?!?!?!?

Proves my point.

by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 11 Jun 2015, 1:40 pm

1996. I was 18.

I ~~literally~~figuratively can't remember a single thing from the whole of that year.

by **seanmichaels** Thu 11 Jun 2015, 1:41 pm

17 years old, belting summer cricket, birds, booze. Gazza making Hendry look like a plank. Feck I wish I could have those days again.

by **seanmichaels** Thu 11 Jun 2015, 1:46 pm

Back then if you turned up to a pub after 7pm you could expect to queue for 45 mins. Same pubs today empty. Kids today are softc0ck masturbaters, too busy on their ipads and knocking one out to kim kardashian. Lost generation this one is.

by **superflyweight** Thu 11 Jun 2015, 1:46 pm

I was 18. I was an even bigger bell-end back then.

by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 11 Jun 2015, 1:47 pm

seanmichaels wrote:17 years old, belting summer cricket, birds, booze. Gazza making Hendry look like a plank. Feck I wish I could have those days again.

That might have been the year I discovered the library. Or maybe that was '95. Or '94. Can't remember.

by Azzy Thu 11 Jun 2015, 1:47 pm

I was 14, hated Gazza and his stupid hair but ye Gods, Euro 96 was incredible. Poborsky, Paddy Berger, beating Holland, that was some summer. I carried Graeme Hick's bags to his car that summer too, and Graham Thorpe gave me money for stickers. Ace.

by **seanmichaels** Thu 11 Jun 2015, 1:54 pm

Jeff and possibly Windows both copied Gazza's bleach blonde look.

by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 11 Jun 2015, 1:56 pm

seanmichaels wrote:Jeff and possibly Windows both copied Gazza's bleach blonde look.

Almost, Seany.

It was Robbie Williams in '95 that inspired that particular look for me.

by Rowley Thu 11 Jun 2015, 1:59 pm

I did indeed have that hair. Looked a biggger tool than Galted looks in his gore text.

by **seanmichaels** Thu 11 Jun 2015, 1:59 pm

Good team:

Spoiler:

by **seanmichaels** Thu 11 Jun 2015, 2:01 pm

oooof. holy christ, just googled john thompson bubblebath and this came up

Spoiler:

by **ShahenshahG** Thu 11 Jun 2015, 2:02 pm

I was 11 avowing vengeance on the I am a twonk of the highest order who kept replaying porky pig on the telly.

by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 11 Jun 2015, 2:09 pm

Rowley wrote:I did indeed have that hair. Looked a biggger tool than Galted looks in his gore text.

Unlikely.

by Rowley Thu 11 Jun 2015, 2:11 pm

I dare say you're right Tina. Looked an even bigger tool when I grew a goatee and tried to dye that the same colour. There is no real defence but I was taking quite a lot of drugs at the time.

by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 11 Jun 2015, 2:15 pm

seanmichaels wrote:Phwoar. holy christ!. Just googled 'inspirational gay men' and this came up!

Spoiler:

I've now got a massive stiffy!

by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 11 Jun 2015, 2:17 pm

Rowley wrote:I dare say you're right Tina. Looked an even bigger tool when I grew a goatee and tried to dye that the same colour. There is no real defence but I was taking quite a lot of drugs at the time.

That's my only line of defense as well. Not your drugs, I was taking my own.

On reflection, the dyed blonde hair and retro Adidas jacket was a horrific look.

I feel I've rectified it recently with the Next shirt and jumper combos.

by Rowley Thu 11 Jun 2015, 2:18 pm

There is no defence for going all Truss on the spelling of defence though Tina.

by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 11 Jun 2015, 2:19 pm

Rowley wrote:There is no defence for going all Truss on the spelling of defence though Tina.

Sorry Jeff. That is inexcusable.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu 11 Jun 2015, 2:19 pm

I don't need to reason it, Azzy has come along and supported the book and thus the words in the write up are all the more appropriate.

I would suggest people look up the Robert Enke book. I read it a month before reading Paul Lake's (ex City) I'm Not Really Here. That's a fine book, but even though he writes it himself it doesn't ever reach the emotional rawness of Reng's work on Enke. Harrowing but gripping; it would arguably be up there with my favourite books of all time.

by jbeadlesbigrighthand Thu 11 Jun 2015, 2:37 pm

Azzy wrote:I was 14, hated Gazza and his stupid hair but ye Gods, Euro 96 was incredible. Poborsky, Paddy Berger, beating Holland, that was some summer. I carried Graeme Hick's bags to his car that summer too, and Graham Thorpe gave me money for stickers. Ace.

Graham Thorpe gave you money for stickers?! Now that's a celebrity anecdote! Much better than stories about dogging with Gary Barlow's mum.

by Rowley Thu 11 Jun 2015, 2:41 pm

If that's a dig at me beadle screw you, my story is a zinger. Not up there with superfly caddying for Del Amitri, but solid enough in its own right.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu 11 Jun 2015, 2:44 pm

Euro 96 was my first tournament. 7 years old, not sure I've ever enjoyed a summer more.

by jbeadlesbigrighthand Thu 11 Jun 2015, 2:50 pm

Rowley wrote:If that's a dig at me beadle screw you, my story is a zinger. Not up there with superfly caddying for Del Amitri, but solid enough in its own right.

I have to admit that it was a dig at you. However, given that my best 'sleb anecdote involve tripping up Al Green, I can't really tease too much.

Caddying for Del Amitri is good, but getting given money for stickers by Graham Thorpe is better (unless of course Azzy is Graham Thorpe's son).

by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 11 Jun 2015, 2:54 pm

jbeadlesbigrighthand wrote:
Rowley wrote:If that's a dig at me beadle screw you, my story is a zinger. Not up there with superfly caddying for Del Amitri, but solid enough in its own right.

I have to admit that it was a dig at you. However, given that my best 'sleb anecdote involve tripping up Al Green, I can't really tease too much.

Caddying for Del Amitri is good, but getting given money for stickers by Graham Thorpe is better (unless of course Azzy is Graham Thorpe's son).

You tripped up Al Green? Can you expand on that?

And don't be fooled by the caddying for Del Amitri. Jeff is deliberately getting it wrong to wind superfly up. superfly actually went 10 pin bowling with the bass player from Deacon Blue.

by **superflyweight** Thu 11 Jun 2015, 2:55 pm

My point wasn't that Euro '96 was or wasn't a great tournament (it was terrible) but that it created a whole football culture in the country based on celebrity and football suddenly became liked by people with only a passing interest in the game who wanted to be involved because it was the popular thing to do. It was essentially football's equivalent to the death of a very posh woman in a Paris tunnel.

This article is a good critique of Euro'96.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2007/jul/04/1

by **seanmichaels** Thu 11 Jun 2015, 2:57 pm

jbeadlesbigrighthand wrote:
Rowley wrote:If that's a dig at me beadle screw you, my story is a zinger. Not up there with superfly caddying for Del Amitri, but solid enough in its own right.

I have to admit that it was a dig at you. However, given that my best 'sleb anecdote involve tripping up Al Green, I can't really tease too much.

Caddying for Del Amitri is good, but getting given money for stickers by Graham Thorpe is better (unless of course Azzy is Graham Thorpe's son).

I snogged Sonia Jackson.

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