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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 13 Jun 2015, 6:49 pm

First topic message reminder :

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Breaking News: London Wasps regain their crown following playoff final victory. 
 


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2014/2015 – London Wasps
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers 
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons 
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons 
2009/2010 – Saracens 
2008/2009 - London Irish





                                             

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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
 
 
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
    Player Draft
    Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

    Round Bidding
    There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.     

    Open Bidding
    From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September. 

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Fluxy Mon 13 Jul 2015, 10:02 am

Who is up for some deals then?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 13 Jul 2015, 10:22 am

Yea man Wink

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon 13 Jul 2015, 10:59 am

I am, on holiday so actually around
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Post by dammit_chris Mon 13 Jul 2015, 12:16 pm

Prob not going to be on much this week due to work, so if someone could put this team forward this week I think I have the Bulls away.

01. Mako Vunipola09. Sam Hildago-Cline
02. Dylan Hartley10. George Ford
03. Ramiro Herrera
04. Jonny Gray11. Nick Cummins
05. Courtney Lawes12. Weslie Fofana
06. Facunda Isa13. Alex Dunbar
07. Yannick Nyanga14. Tommy Bowe
08. Billy Vunipola15. Leigh Halfpenny
16. Ashley Johnson 17. Thomas Domingo 18. Logi Mulipola 19. Samu Manoa 20. Sam Burgess 21. Joe Simpson 22. Lima Sopoaga  23. Rieko Ioane

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 13 Jul 2015, 12:20 pm

No worries. Match threads will be up this evening.
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Post by dammit_chris Mon 13 Jul 2015, 12:21 pm

Cheers Pete!

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Post by BamBam Tue 14 Jul 2015, 12:22 pm

Hadn't realised that Alberts was joining Stade

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Post by prop_lyd Tue 14 Jul 2015, 1:33 pm

Just a heads up guys that I'm away on a delayed honeymoon to Canada from 4th to 22nd September and then start my first weekend in uni on the 25th September so am basically not going to be on here much for a month.

I'm happy if someone such as Driver wanted to caretake for the time I'm away and can just liaise with them when I have access to wifi when away!
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Post by Guest Tue 14 Jul 2015, 3:41 pm

Have a great time prop. Canada is a pretty special place and fantastic throughout. One of my all time favourite places.

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Post by prop_lyd Tue 14 Jul 2015, 3:55 pm

Yeah am really looking forward to it, counting dow. The days already.....like 58days to go!
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Post by BamBam Tue 14 Jul 2015, 3:57 pm

Have a good time bud, think we'll be into the latter stages of the summer tournament then so no massive rush for the real games

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Post by prop_lyd Tue 14 Jul 2015, 5:44 pm

Yeah that's what I worked it out as but thought id make people aware early on
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Post by ChequeredJersey Tue 14 Jul 2015, 7:08 pm

Have a great time, prop!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 14 Jul 2015, 7:31 pm

NEW ZEALAND: Israel Dagg, Waisake Naholo, Ma'a Nonu, Sonny Bill Williams, Charles Piutau, Dan Carter, TJ Perenara, Kieran Read, Richie McCaw (capt), Jerome Kaino, Brodie Retallick, Luke Romano, Owen Franks, Keven Mealamu, Tony Woodcock. Reserves: Codie Taylor, Wyatt Crockett, Nepo Laulala, Jeremy Thrush, Liam Messam, Andy Ellis, Colin Slade, Ryan Crotty.

Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/sport/waisake-naholo-to-make-all-blacks-test-debut-2015071505#ixzz3ftMmuvMu

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 14 Jul 2015, 7:32 pm

SBW at 12 and Nonu 13 is interesting.
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Post by ChequeredJersey Tue 14 Jul 2015, 7:35 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:SBW at 12 and Nonu 13 is interesting.

Interesting being euphemistic for batshit crazy?
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 14 Jul 2015, 7:45 pm

I'm not sure it'll work but could be scary.

Carter hasn't been creating much and him and SBW have never really clicked. Sonny Bill needs a run of games to get fitness so can see why he's starting.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 14 Jul 2015, 7:48 pm

I'm surprised they're continuing with Piutau

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Post by Guest Tue 14 Jul 2015, 8:16 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I'm not sure it'll work but could be scary.

Carter hasn't been creating much and him and SBW have never really clicked. Sonny Bill needs a run of games to get fitness so can see why he's starting.


Crusaders scored loads towards end of season and carter was super sharp. If SBW plays like last week nothing will happen.

For me nonu SBW does not work as their is no distribution. Also Conrad smith is so intelligent for NZ so
Is always missed.

Also prefer it when NZ have a footballer on the wing. Naholo and pitua are exciting players but not what you would call footballing backs. Big on power that AB side and Hansen sticking to his guns re experimenting.

Be a great contest as ever.

Personally I don't see what you get from playing mix and match sides it makes things disjointed

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 14 Jul 2015, 8:20 pm

Sure they've lined up like that before at centre. Sbw offload to nonu potentially devastating.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 14 Jul 2015, 8:22 pm

"No distribution" with SBW & Nonu?!?! Completely baffled with that comment. It sounds like a comment from 10 years ago. We all know SBW's qualities and Nonu has a great flat pass.

Have to disagree on Carter, he's not looked sharp. SBW was poor last week but he's not fit and played outside Carter who was equally as bad.

I just don't think Carter creates too much as a pivot of late, he's quite pedestrian in his distribution and doesn't look sharp. He needs to step up a few gears which could happen.

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Post by Guest Tue 14 Jul 2015, 8:33 pm

SBW has offloads but not distribution. Conrad does a lot of the distributing. Nonu much improved but SBW and nonu are not intelligent distributors. They have many qualities but would not say intelligent distribution is amongst them

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Post by Guest Tue 14 Jul 2015, 8:34 pm

It's probably the biggest centre pairing I have seen. Some kind of power

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 14 Jul 2015, 8:37 pm

Intelligent distribution?

I was arguing the comment "no distribution" which is nonsense really.

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Post by Guest Tue 14 Jul 2015, 8:55 pm

I think you need to understand what I mean by distribution.

They are not distributing 12s in the sense that NZ love a second 5/8. Nonu is much improved but still throws some horrible passes
When trying to distribute it. Ie he struggles with long cut out passes and other things a distributing 12
Would not struggle with.

Nonu best 12 in the world but nowhere near the best distributing 12.
He has a different skill mix as does SBW

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Post by ChequeredJersey Tue 14 Jul 2015, 8:59 pm

Who is the best distributing 12 in the world?
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 14 Jul 2015, 8:59 pm

You'd have to go back to Luke Mcallister to find the last example. Years they've had a non playmaking 12.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 14 Jul 2015, 9:00 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:Who is the best distributing 12 in the world?

Brad Barritt Wink

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Post by Guest Tue 14 Jul 2015, 9:44 pm

LukeLovesLuka wrote:You'd have to go back to Luke Mcallister to find the last example. Years they've had a non playmaking 12.


Nonu has made the spot his own for many years

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Post by Guest Tue 14 Jul 2015, 9:45 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:Who is the best distributing 12 in the world?

Probably toomua or Giteau

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 14 Jul 2015, 9:52 pm

Giteau is the best distributing 12 without a doubt.
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 14 Jul 2015, 10:05 pm

There aren't any other competitors really. All the big nations play a big/running 12 these days. Nonu, Fofana, JdV etc. not distributors.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 14 Jul 2015, 10:10 pm

Absolutely Luke.
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Post by Guest Tue 14 Jul 2015, 10:10 pm

A lot of teams have other people popping up there to do that distributing part.

South Africa often have WLR do it NZ have Dagg etc etc all
Pop up first or 2 bs receiver particularly if the 10
Is not about. It aids continuity and allows quick attacks

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Post by Guest Tue 14 Jul 2015, 10:13 pm

England for example are desperate for a ball
Playing 12 as we struggle to score off turnover and launch quick attacks hence the excitement re slade and why they persisted with 36 for so long. We don't have anyone to Pop
Up from another backline position to do the role

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Post by Fluxy Tue 14 Jul 2015, 10:39 pm

I would say Nonu has a distribution and management game that is near the top, not the best, but surely top three.

Giteau the best

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Post by Fluxy Tue 14 Jul 2015, 10:42 pm

Francois Steyn is definitely one when on form that can be considered, as well as someone like JMH.

Eastmond? Horne? Madigan?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 15 Jul 2015, 5:15 am

When I see somebody labelled as having "no distrubtion" I assume it's becasue he has no passing skills, this is not something that you could label with these players by a long shot.

If you want to discuss poor distributing players I suppose you could say Kuridrani was one of the worst about on the International scene at the minute, he has hands like shovels. Past him I guess you're lokking at Tuilagi and Roberts but these guys offer diffferent things.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 15 Jul 2015, 7:05 am

South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Schalk Burger, 7 Marcell Coetzee, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Victor Matfield (captain), 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.

Replacements: 16 Adriaan Strauss, 17 Heinke van der Merwe, 18 Frans Malherbe, 19 Lodewyk de Jager, 20 Teboho Mohoje, 21 Cobus Reinach, 22 Pat Lambie, 23 Lwazi Mvovo.

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Post by Guest Wed 15 Jul 2015, 7:05 am

Simplistically The whole point of having a distributing 12 is basically to have an extra fly half. They relieve pressure on defence by kicking and they pop up at first receiver to move the ball with distribution and Launch the attack,

Nonu/SBW would not even be top 10 for this and are rarely if ever seen at first receiver.

Smith at 13 for NZ has evolved his role to do some of this as it's not Nonu's strong point and its also why Dagg often pops up there.

13 generally does not need the strongest passing game as attacking wise you are meant to threaten outside channels and the longest pass you would have to make is to the winger outside you.


Having a decent offload like JD2, kurindranj, tuilagi,Smith and pretty much every other 13 out there is a useful skill.

I would have thought nonu 12, SBW 13 would work better if the 2 combinations

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 15 Jul 2015, 7:14 am

I know what a distributing 12 is. I was questioning your "no distribution" comment not what a passing 12 is.

You certainly know how to back away from a point Wink

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Post by Guest Wed 15 Jul 2015, 7:15 am

Beast JDP and Pienaar lucky to be in that SA side. Will need big games throughout RC to keep their places.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 15 Jul 2015, 7:33 am

anonmattyt wrote:Beast JDP and Pienaar lucky to be in that SA side. Will need big games throughout RC to keep their places.

I'd add Pollard and JP to that list

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Post by Guest Wed 15 Jul 2015, 7:41 am

Pollard was really good ball in hand last week but kicked poorly

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 15 Jul 2015, 7:46 am

I didn't see the game, it wasn't available anywhere. I just went off reports and they said he wasn't that great and things improved when Lambie came on.

JP is there on reputaion alone I think, Meyer is a very loyal coach.

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Post by Guest Wed 15 Jul 2015, 11:04 am

The highlights are available online . http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3561_62409,00.html

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 15 Jul 2015, 11:08 am

That's not a link to the highlights. So you didn't see the game either?

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Post by Driver Wed 15 Jul 2015, 1:10 pm

prop_lyd wrote:Just a heads up guys that I'm away on a delayed honeymoon to Canada from 4th to 22nd September and then start my first weekend in uni on the 25th September so am basically not going to be on here much for a month.

I'm happy if someone such as Driver wanted to caretake for the time I'm away and can just liaise with them when I have access to wifi when away!

Yeah no probs
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Post by dammit_chris Wed 15 Jul 2015, 2:04 pm

Driver, FYI, Prop had agreed to sell me Milner-Skudder for £5million and a season where I avoid making any negative comments about Welsh rugby, especially in the weeks leading up to the England match.

Stick on confirms?

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Post by BamBam Wed 15 Jul 2015, 2:11 pm

Prop must have been a busy boy! Prop and I had an agreement that I wouldn't describe Gatland as a block headed w4nker for the duration of his contract if he sold me Naholo + Warburton for 10m

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