OWGR-August 2015

First topic message reminder :

I think it is time for an update and new thread.  The OWGR Top 100 should all be invited to play the PGA Championship tomorrow.

Nice playing from Troy Merritt for winning the Quicken Loans to get an 11th invite to B-Stone.  Also Marc Warren got a 11th hour invite for his 4th place finish in Scotland.

Kiradech Aphibarnrat did not get an invite for winning the Paul Lawrie Match Play but is 14th in the Int'l Prez Cup standings.

This is what the top 100 should look like tomorrow morning

 
 

1	Rory McIlroy	12.485
2	Jordan Spieth	11.415
3	Bubba Watson	7.541
4	Jason Day	6.916
5	Rickie Fowler	6.674
6	Jim Furyk	6.578
7	Dustin Johnson	6.551
8	Justin Rose	6.422
9	Henrik Stenson	6.069
10	Sergio Garcia	5.614
11	Adam Scott	5.192
12	Zach Johnson	4.975
13	Louis Oosthuizen	4.960
14	Jimmy Walker	4.765
15	Hideki Matsuyama	4.298
16	Matt Kuchar	4.218
17	J.B. Holmes	4.170
18	Patrick Reed	4.009
19	Martin Kaymer	3.822
20	Phil Mickelson	3.745
21	Billy Horschel	3.725
22	Chris Kirk	3.685
23	Brooks Koepka	3.663
24	Danny Willett	3.563
25	Bernd Wiesberger	3.301
26	Paul Casey	3.194
27	Bill Haas	3.182
28	Branden Grace	3.162
29	Brandt Snedeker	3.105
30	Marc Leishman	3.104
31	Kevin Na	3.022
32	Ryan Palmer	2.970
33	Ian Poulter	2.945
34	Kevin Kisner	2.842
35	Gary Woodland	2.840
36	Lee Westwood	2.808
37	Jamie Donaldson	2.780
38	Thongchai Jaidee	2.771
39	Ryan Moore	2.662
40	Charl Schwartzel	2.569
41	Victor Dubuisson	2.567
42	Francesco Molinari	2.565
43	Charley Hoffman	2.563
44	Brendon Todd	2.550
45	Hunter Mahan	2.545
46	Keegan Bradley	2.514
47	Webb Simpson	2.495
48	Shane Lowry	2.477
49	Marc Warren	2.448
50	Robert Streb	2.431
51	Russell Henley	2.398
52	Anirban Lahiri	2.398
53	Tommy Fleetwood	2.395
54	John Senden	2.388
55	Joost Luiten	2.371
56	Miguel A Jimenez	2.360
57	Andy Sullivan	2.356
58	Byeong Hun An	2.338
59	David Lingmerth	2.294
60	Graeme McDowell	2.285
61	Ben Martin	2.281
62	Luke Donald	2.235
63	Steven Bowditch	2.206
64	Matt Every	2.132
65	Alexander Levy	2.130
66	Danny Lee	2.127
67	Kiradech Aphibarnrat	2.092
68	George Coetzee	2.033
69	Cameron Tringale	2.006
70	Stephen Gallacher	1.970
71	Scott Piercy	1.964
72	Matt Jones	1.918
73	Alexander Noren	1.902
74	Richie Ramsay	1.883
75	Brian Harman	1.876
76	Russell Knox	1.862
77	Chris Wood	1.818
78	Pablo Larrazabal	1.813
79	Soren Kjeldsen	1.782
80	Tim Clark	1.776
81	Harris English	1.776
82	Daniel Berger	1.768
83	Justin Thomas	1.766
84	Rafael Cabrera Bello	1.762
85	James Morrison	1.759
86	David Howell	1.747
87	Jason Dufner	1.738
88	Eddie Pepperell	1.725
89	Shawn Stefani	1.699
90	George McNeill	1.698
91	Graham Delaet	1.694
92	Kevin Streelman	1.673
93	Jason Bohn	1.670
94	Ross Fisher	1.669
95	Tyrrell Hatton	1.668
96	Emiliano Grillo	1.639
97	Morgan Hoffmann	1.627
98	James Hahn	1.623
99	Troy Merritt	1.618
100	Hiroshi Iwata	1.616
101	Brendan Steele	1.612
102	Padraig Harrington	1.612
103	Cameron Smith	1.602

And what year was that?

2013 when Tiger was easily the worlds best player or 2014 when Rory won 2 majors?

Maybe not dominant. But Stenson contended in all majors and won the FEC and RTD.

Is this an owgr first?

The owgr "Strength of Field" for this week's Challenge Tour event is 4. One more than for the Moscow stop on the European Tour.

It seems very unfair that the winner in Moscow will get 24 points to Cordon winners 12, given the respective SOF's of 3 and 4.

Although without boosting both events would be worth 7 points to the winner.

Quite.
The owgr needs to recalibrate its subsidies for European Tour events; a set limit for Challenge Tour events is compatible with the web.com Tour so wouldn't change that.

I actually think awarding ERV points further down the rankings than 200 would help. It is sort of weird to say that someone in the top 500 of their sport globally isn't good enough to contribute to the rankings.

It is certainly crazy that the event in moscow is being boosted to more than 3 times its true value. (7 to 24). Even if McIlroy and Spieth decided to tee it up in Moscow it would only just make the 24 mark. (They bring 82 + home ranking points, and 24 requires 91)

True dat mac. 3 players barely inside the top 200 is farcial. Even Kafelnikov stands a chance of making the cut.

72 pts for the D--Bank winner.  The #1 Projections change a little, but not significantly.

Spieth would be #1 next week if players maintain their position after round 1.

A win for KT Kim?
Top Ten for Iwata, now catching a cab for Indiana.

pgatour.com suggests Paul Casey has withdrawn. What's that all about? Anyone know why??

Recurrence of muscle tear injury? Can you rely on the Sunday Express?

Lee Slattery cracks the OWGR top 200 with his win in Russia.

Should either Stenson or Fowler win today, they would go to #5, still a well behind #4 Bubba.

Jones and Knox could get into the Top 30.
O'Hair could get into the Top 50. 

International Prez Cup Watch

Danny Lee needs a solo 43rd to keep ahead of Bowditch
Danny Lee needs a Solo 7th or better to pass Jaidee
Matt Jones needs a Two way  T2nd or better to pass Jaidee
Brendon de Jonge needs to win to pass Jaidee.

Matt Jones can pass Danny Lee with a Solo 3rd and Danny Lee finishing worse than 19th.

Almost guaranteed that Spieth will be #1 player when the rankings are released tomorrow.

However, if Rory finishes the equivalent of 43rd or better, Rory will retake the #1 on September 14th.

Rory will be adding tournaments to his divisor for the BMW and Tour Championship, so Spieth will have a leg up on Rory as the FEX Playoffs finish.

Day can become #1 will become #1 with a win, and a possible #1 with a solo or two way tie for second.

Here is chart of the projected OWGR averages based on some sample finishes. (T2-2 = Two way T2nd)

Place		Rory		Jordan		Jason
1st		13.095		13.112		12.640
2nd		12.455		12.559		11.920
T2-2		12.295		12.420		11.740
3rd		12.135		12.282		11.560
T3-2		12.055		12.212		11.470
4th		11.975		12.143		11.380
T4-2		11.927		12.102		11.326
5th		11.878		12.060		11.272
T5-2		11.847		12.032		11.236
6th		11.815		12.005		11.200
7th		11.783		11.977		11.164
8th		11.751		11.949		11.128
9th		11.735		11.936		11.110
10th		11.719		11.922		11.092
15th		11.647		11.859		11.011
20th		11.607		11.825		10.966
25th		11.581		11.802		10.937
30th		11.567		11.790		10.921
40th		11.559		11.783		10.912
50th		11.535		11.762		10.885
59th		11.495		11.728		10.840

The FedEx Play-Offs are the owgr (72 pts again) gift that keeps on giving! Only 24 for the Italian Job so a huge difference for those able to take advantage - some balance restored the next few weeks I hope!!

That time of year when Tour pros on the Top 50 bubble might be looking at planning their schedule to stay there if they want a trip to Augusta.

Ryo Ishikawa wins in Japan and Beyong Hun An wins in Korea.

Ryo should get inside the Top 150 and An should be in the top 50.  (ahead of Danny Lee but too late for the Prez Cup).

Karlberg moves to around 131st with his Italian Open win, Kaymer moves to 19th with his playoff loss.

Lil Rickie probably gets to #4 with a solo 2nd.  Two way T2nd might do it, depending on how Bubba finishes.

Should J-Day go on to win, he will be 1, but his #1 ranking will be vulnerable next week at the Tour Championship.  How vulnerable depends on how Rory and Jordan finish.

An definitely got the thin edge of Nick Price's wedge!

J-Day has taken firm grasp of the #1 Ranking.  Rory and Jordan can only reclaim the #1 ranking by winning the Tour Championship (and a little help from Jason Day)

For Rory:  He has to win the Tour Championship and Jason has to finish worse than solo 15th.

For Jordan:He has to win the Tour Championship and Jason has to finish worse than solo 5th.

I suspect Jason will retain the #1 ranking after this week, but I think he will lose it by year end.  I think the only OWGR recognized tournament he plans to play is the World Challenge.  He wife is pregnant and due to give birth in November so other than a trip to Korea to play Prez Cup, I don't think he will be playing anymore.

Rory is going to be busy playing Euro tournaments (and the FRYS) so he will have an opportunity to collect some OWGR pts.  I am thinking about 6 or 7 more OWGR tournaments.

Jordan will be taking some weeks off (other than the Prez Cup) in the next month or so but I guess he will be playing at least 4 more OWGR recognized tournaments (in China, Japan,  Australia and World Challenge)

Jordan gets the #1 ranking, but he will only hold for three weeks, unless he finds a tournament to play the week after the Prez Cup.

Assuming neither Spieth or Day plays after the Prez Cup, this is what their projected rankings will be for the next month.

- - - -  9/28 -- 10/5 - 10/12 - 10/19
Jordan  12.83 - 12.69 - 12.55 - 12.40
JasonD  12.74 - 12.63 - 12.53 - 12.42

I don't think Rory's playing again until the Fry's and can't see that yielding enough points even if he should win it. Then some European Tour events.

And don't know that either Spieth or Day will play until the WGC-HSBC (probably not Day as his missus is expecting), then the Aussie Open which will likely see Spieth but not Day.

Rory needs to get going . . . . . . . .

Rory is about 60 pts behind and the only tournament he might play that will be worth that many points is the WGC-China tournament.

I would guess the FRYS would be SoF-40 Max.

Agreed, there's no single event which will get him past either of the J-men.
But he'll be competing in somewhere between 4 and 6 events, Spieth in about 3, Day perhaps not at all, though imagine he'll join the Tiger swoonfest.

kwinigolfer wrote:Day perhaps not at all, though imagine he'll join the Tiger swoonfest.

How will that work given Tiger's condition?  Will he turn up and see them all off at the first?  Buy them a drink in the bar when they get back in?  Trundle round in a buggy and chat to them in round?

Bob,
Exactly! Though not too sure about the drink. Hero . . . . . . .

I doubt if J-Day was going to go globetrotting even if Ellie was not expecting.

J-Day seems to have an aversion to traveling.  He seldom goes back to Australia to support their tour and never has played the WGC-HSBC China event.

I think day travels to events in an RV, so it would be pretty tough to cross the Pacific in that.

Be interesting to see if Pubehead, Day and Regaine can remain in the top 10 next year. The number of points Day and Regaine inparticular have to defend is incredible.

what/who is Regaine?

Sure you can guess from the context.

McLaren wrote:I think day travels to events in an RV, so it would be pretty tough to cross the Pacific in that.

He was in the mix at St Andrews, do you think he took a ferry across the Atlantic?

Maybe its amphibious.

British Masters winner projected to earn 36 pts this week.
Imagine next week's Fry's.com winner will earn more, perhaps 40+.
But if Rory played Woburn instead of Silverado, perhaps that would be reversed.

Michael Fitzpatrick should be #59 in tomorrows rankings.

GPB,
Is Justin Rose's appearance at Silverado also a quid pro quo from his Turkish Delight?

I see princedrac also has Kjeldsen and Kiradech in the Top 50 . . . . . . . .

Yep, Rose, Rory, Charl, and Webby are fulfilling their Turkey obligation.

Westy, Kuchar, and Mahan did it last year.

Woods gets a Medical Extension.

GPB wrote:Michael Fitzpatrick should be #59 in tomorrows rankings.

Thanks. What about the winner of the British Masters, Matthew?

SmithersJones wrote:

GPB wrote:Michael Fitzpatrick should be #59 in tomorrows rankings.

Thanks. What about the winner of the British Masters, Matthew?

Michael Matthew...whatever.

At least it is not a non biblical name like Chesson or Patton.

A reminder from princedrac that Spieth relinquishes #1 this coming week, overtaken by Jason Day while both are in "park".

And disappionting that initial projections of the Portugal event suggest an owgr earning in the mid-twenties, whilst Frys.com will be in the forties.

Adam Scott in Japan, Lahiri and Kiradech in Macau - why didn't Harrington and/or Westwood think of that?

GPB wrote:

SmithersJones wrote:

GPB wrote:Michael Fitzpatrick should be #59 in tomorrows rankings.

Thanks. What about the winner of the British Masters, Matthew?

Michael Matthew...whatever.

At least it is not a non biblical name like Chesson or Patton.

How is Matthew a biblical name? It's in the bible, but it doesn't make it biblical. Presumably "Matthew" (not that there was one) was called so, before he allegedly met the mythical jewish sky zombie?

LOL, just find it amusing how the anti-god-botherers are so bothered by non-Biblical names likes Wyndham and Chesson and Webb.

GPB wrote:LOL, just find it amusing how the anti-god-botherers are so bothered by non-Biblical names likes Wyndham and Chesson and Webb.

What biblical names?

No one is bothered by the names of American golfers, they're just stupid names.

super_realist wrote:


No one is bothered by the names of American golfers, they're just stupid names.

Of course you are not bothered.

GPB wrote:LOL, just find it amusing how the anti-god-botherers are so bothered by non-Biblical names likes Wyndham and Chesson and Webb.

Also find it amusing that those Americans with 'non-biblical' names very often are the biggest god-botherers.

GPB wrote:

super_realist wrote:


No one is bothered by the names of American golfers, they're just stupid names.

Of course you are not bothered.

I'll tell you what does annoy about, people claiming people are named after "biblical" names. I've nver heard of anyone called Job, Nebucadnezzer, Bethsheba or Moses. I'm sure the assertion was that Matthew, David, Mark, Luke, Peter, Paul, John etc are "biblical" names, they simply aren't.

Calling your kids Wyndham or Chesson is ridiculous as calling someone Apple or Fifi Trixabelle.

Moses Kiptanui?

Jesus Navas. That is pretty biblical.

I think you'll find that some of the names you find ridiculous are simply cultural differences.

Can we move on, please?

Alright Mrs "Keep it on topic Police", might have given Webb Simpson some inspiration for his next sprog there.

McLaren wrote:Jesus Navas.  That is pretty biblical.

Not to mention Jesus Gil y Gil, a man who epitomized good Christian values...

In college, I was good friends with a guy named Elvis Moses O'Leary.  


Moses is a common Jewish name

LadyPutt wrote:I think you'll find that some of the names you find ridiculous are simply cultural differences.

BINGO!!!