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Season 8 Homepage II
First topic message reminder :
2014/2015 – London Wasps
Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
2014/2015 – London Wasps
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
POS | Aviva Premiership | PLAYED | WON | DREW | LOST | P F | P A | P D | T F | T A | TBP | LBP | POINTS | |
1 | Bath Rugby | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
2 | Exeter Chiefs | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
3 | Gloucester | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
4 | Harlequins | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
5 | Leicester Tigers | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
6 | London Irish | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
7 | London Wasps | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
8 | Newcastle Falcons | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
9 | Northampton Saints | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
10 | Sale Sharks | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
11 | Saracens | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
12 | Worcester Warriors | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Links
Fixture List
Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
Foreign Transfers
Budgets
European Homepage
Anglo Welsh Homepage
Fixture List
Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
Foreign Transfers
Budgets
European Homepage
Anglo Welsh Homepage
Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.
Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players. Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.
Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:
- Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.- Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.- Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
Player Draft
Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.
Round Bidding
There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.
Open Bidding
From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.
Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation
Compensation will be paid as follows
£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other
All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.
Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.
In addition, each team must have the following:-
For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.
For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.
At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.
All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).
Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.
If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.
Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.
Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.
Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.
£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.
AP finishing positions.
Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m
Heineken Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million
Amlin Challenge Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million
Anglo-Welsh Cup
Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million
If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.
Last edited by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 7:33 pm; edited 9 times in total (Reason for editing : Add in links and tables etc)
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anonmattyt wrote:Why take Wilson if he was not fit enough to start as is being reported
Bizarre.
Some of the selections are very odd.
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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Hooper banned for Wales game. Can't believe he didn't get a card on the day.
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My team for Uruguay would of been totally different.
1.Mako Vunipola
2.Jamie George
3.Kieron Brookes
4.Joe Launchbury
5.George Kruis
6.James Haskell
7.Tom Wood (C)
8.Nick Easter
9.Danny Care
10.George Ford
11.Jack Nowell
12.Sam Burgess
13.Henry Slade
14.Johnathan Joseph
15.Anthony Watson
I think we need to start playing Watson at 15 and this was the time to start it. I'm sure if you say too JJ will you play on the wing for this one game and bag a shed load of tries he wouldn't be too bothered.
1.Mako Vunipola
2.Jamie George
3.Kieron Brookes
4.Joe Launchbury
5.George Kruis
6.James Haskell
7.Tom Wood (C)
8.Nick Easter
9.Danny Care
10.George Ford
11.Jack Nowell
12.Sam Burgess
13.Henry Slade
14.Johnathan Joseph
15.Anthony Watson
I think we need to start playing Watson at 15 and this was the time to start it. I'm sure if you say too JJ will you play on the wing for this one game and bag a shed load of tries he wouldn't be too bothered.
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Pointless really whoever they put out as SL is unlikely to be the manager post WC.
Burgess not making the squad is probably due to public pressure and he supposedly in talks to go back to RL post WC.
Burgess not making the squad is probably due to public pressure and he supposedly in talks to go back to RL post WC.
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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Leeds Rhinos i've heard but Bath are talking about him being a big player for them this season.
Hope he doesn't tbh. Rugby needs superstars and he could be one.
Hope he doesn't tbh. Rugby needs superstars and he could be one.
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Stuart Lancaster (ITV.Com) wrote:Lancaster, however, insists Burgess will not be ending his three-and-a-half-year contract after only 12 months.
"I've not had any conversations with him about a move to rugby league at all," Lancaster said.
"Genuinely, 100 per cent I didn't know that story was out there. My last conversation with him was about him going back to Bath. He can't wait to get stuck into the Premiership.
"He feels he's made good strides as a player and he wants to continue to improve. Bath will be delighted to have him back and I can't see anything changing in that regard."
Lancaster offered a glimpse into England's future by naming a midfield trio of George Ford, Owen Farrell and Henry Slade against Uruguay. Chris Robshaw remains as openside and captain.
Completing the backline reshuffle for the death throes of the failed World Cup at Manchester City Stadium and are the selection of scrum-half Danny Care, wing Jack Nowell and full-back Alex Goode.
"Sam wasn't picked because I want to have a look at this combination for this game," Lancaster said.
"I've watched George and Owen since they were 18 and looked at them as an option and combination. Slade has had to wait but he's a great one for the future.
"It's an exciting selection. George, Owen, Henry - these guys are great players and will be great players for the future.
"We looked at them in training. Now we have so many ball players in our backline we're wondering who is going to carry the ball!"
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I doubt SL will have any input in Burgess going back. It's almost a certainty he'll go back.
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Personally don't think an English RL team could afford him. They
Pay peanuts.
I can see Burgess staying and playing 6. All you read about him is how he has this attitude that will not allow him to go back until he succeeded.
Personally always thought he should have stayed in RL as was too old to pick the game up.
Also think he has done incredibly well to get this far in such a short time which really show how talented he is. I hope he stays and makes a success of it
Pay peanuts.
I can see Burgess staying and playing 6. All you read about him is how he has this attitude that will not allow him to go back until he succeeded.
Personally always thought he should have stayed in RL as was too old to pick the game up.
Also think he has done incredibly well to get this far in such a short time which really show how talented he is. I hope he stays and makes a success of it
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It'll be Aus he goes to, big rumours circulating. I can't see anything but him going tbh, he's been a huge disappointment and the media are getting on his back
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http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/rwc-ruck-analysis-aus-v-eng/
Worth a read
Worth a read
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It's a good one, Matt
Personally, and I don't think I big up my players very often, I am very happy with how Kepu has done this RWC so far, Vito recently too and Ben Arous
Personally, and I don't think I big up my players very often, I am very happy with how Kepu has done this RWC so far, Vito recently too and Ben Arous
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Huge disappointment haha. He was Bath's best player in the Aviva Premiership Final when playing as a no6 and has done very well to have got as far as he has done. You'd be calling SBW a huge disappointment if you judged the two over the same period.
Not his fault that Lancaster and co played him as a no12 and can't really fault his performances in the WC - there are some other guys who played a whole lot worse and they have more than 8 months union experience.
Burgess will stay, he has 3 years left on his contract and has said how much he is looking forward to playing for Bath this season. Give him a run at no6 and he'll be fine.
Not his fault that Lancaster and co played him as a no12 and can't really fault his performances in the WC - there are some other guys who played a whole lot worse and they have more than 8 months union experience.
Burgess will stay, he has 3 years left on his contract and has said how much he is looking forward to playing for Bath this season. Give him a run at no6 and he'll be fine.
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Driver wrote:Stuart Lancaster (ITV.Com) wrote:Lancaster, however, insists Burgess will not be ending his three-and-a-half-year contract after only 12 months.
"I've not had any conversations with him about a move to rugby league at all," Lancaster said.
"Genuinely, 100 per cent I didn't know that story was out there. My last conversation with him was about him going back to Bath. He can't wait to get stuck into the Premiership.
"He feels he's made good strides as a player and he wants to continue to improve. Bath will be delighted to have him back and I can't see anything changing in that regard."
Lancaster offered a glimpse into England's future by naming a midfield trio of George Ford, Owen Farrell and Henry Slade against Uruguay. Chris Robshaw remains as openside and captain.
Completing the backline reshuffle for the death throes of the failed World Cup at Manchester City Stadium and are the selection of scrum-half Danny Care, wing Jack Nowell and full-back Alex Goode.
"Sam wasn't picked because I want to have a look at this combination for this game," Lancaster said.
"I've watched George and Owen since they were 18 and looked at them as an option and combination. Slade has had to wait but he's a great one for the future.
"It's an exciting selection. George, Owen, Henry - these guys are great players and will be great players for the future.
"We looked at them in training. Now we have so many ball players in our backline we're wondering who is going to carry the ball!"
Yay! So, in his typical overcompensatory manner, Lancaster has realised that we've been lacking tactical kicking, playmaking and passing and decided to fill his backline with just playmakers (four 10s...)!
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Driver wrote:My team for Uruguay would of been totally different.
1.Mako Vunipola
2.Jamie George
3.Kieron Brookes
4.Joe Launchbury
5.George Kruis
6.James Haskell
7.Tom Wood (C)
8.Nick Easter
9.Danny Care
10.George Ford
11.Jack Nowell
12.Sam Burgess
13.Henry Slade
14.Johnathan Joseph
15.Anthony Watson
I think we need to start playing Watson at 15 and this was the time to start it. I'm sure if you say too JJ will you play on the wing for this one game and bag a shed load of tries he wouldn't be too bothered.
Is Watson a good enough defensive player at 15? ANd is JJ on the wing anything other than a massive waste?
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It is bizarre CJ - don't understand Lancaster at all, the backline has just been overloaded with playmakers, but no one there to punch holes in the midfield. Ironically it would have been a great game to give Burgess game time having already played with Ford and Slade.
Don't get it. We could be lucky that Uruguay only get a 4-5 day turnaround!!!
Don't get it. We could be lucky that Uruguay only get a 4-5 day turnaround!!!
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Burgess has been a huge disappointment, especially in the WC.
I'm hardly surprised as he's been given very little time, his inclusion in the WC squad was one of the worst selections I've ever seen. All of the RL fans I've spoke to are almost certain he's going back to RL. One works for Sky Sports has heard talks are going on now.
He'll hardly be a loss tbh, just another failed convert.
I'm hardly surprised as he's been given very little time, his inclusion in the WC squad was one of the worst selections I've ever seen. All of the RL fans I've spoke to are almost certain he's going back to RL. One works for Sky Sports has heard talks are going on now.
He'll hardly be a loss tbh, just another failed convert.
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Lol - do you write for the Daily Mail?
dammit_chris- Posts : 8685
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What was the point of his inclusion in the WC squad?
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To be used as someone who sucked in defenders and broke the gainline in offence, which he did. To stop the Welsh power game in midfield and put in good defensive performance, which he did.
He didnt set the game alight but its just ridiculous the amount of criticism he has got compared to others. He didnt do anything wrong and played the game he was asked to play by Lancaster and out of position (look at his performances for Bath towards the end of last season at no6 and he played well).
Did he let England down against Fiji when he came on? No.
Did he let England down when he played against Wales? No.
Did he let England down when he played against Australia. Not his best game, but still no.
So many other players who had worse tournaments and tbh if the other no12s in England had taken their chances then he'd never have been in the squad in the first place.
He didnt set the game alight but its just ridiculous the amount of criticism he has got compared to others. He didnt do anything wrong and played the game he was asked to play by Lancaster and out of position (look at his performances for Bath towards the end of last season at no6 and he played well).
Did he let England down against Fiji when he came on? No.
Did he let England down when he played against Wales? No.
Did he let England down when he played against Australia. Not his best game, but still no.
So many other players who had worse tournaments and tbh if the other no12s in England had taken their chances then he'd never have been in the squad in the first place.
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ChequeredJersey wrote:It's a good one, Matt
Personally, and I don't think I big up my players very often, I am very happy with how Kepu has done this RWC so far, Vito recently too and Ben Arous
All 3 done well. Arous best 1 in the world with Ayerza
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He offered nothing apart from straight up tackling against Wales. He should never have been in the squad, I can't see how he can be defended.
If not letting England down is offering nothing, then he did a good job.
He should never have been in the squad, his inclusion sums up what is wrong with this management set up.
If not letting England down is offering nothing, then he did a good job.
He should never have been in the squad, his inclusion sums up what is wrong with this management set up.
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He didnt do anything wrong
Just what I want from an English International 12......he offered nothing.
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Burgess did what he was asked to do. In that sense I find it hard to fault him. He stopped Roberts and the Welsh power game, he constantly got over the gain line for us.
Surely you can see its the tactics and style the management want to play that is the issue? To be thrown in like he was is clearly stupid - it was clear he was going to be in the mix around the time of the 6Nations so should have been in the match day squad.
There are quite a few of the players who shouldn't have been selected for a number of reasons (fitness of Morgan and Barritt) and those that he should have gambled with (Hartley and Cipriani).
Load of selection issues and mismanagement by the coaches over the last 4 years.
Surely you can see its the tactics and style the management want to play that is the issue? To be thrown in like he was is clearly stupid - it was clear he was going to be in the mix around the time of the 6Nations so should have been in the match day squad.
There are quite a few of the players who shouldn't have been selected for a number of reasons (fitness of Morgan and Barritt) and those that he should have gambled with (Hartley and Cipriani).
Load of selection issues and mismanagement by the coaches over the last 4 years.
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Joe Worlsey stopped Roberts.
I don't understand how you think he warranted selection, he offered nothing. He should never have been in the squad, I really can't understand how you're defending him.
I don't understand how you think he warranted selection, he offered nothing. He should never have been in the squad, I really can't understand how you're defending him.
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Anybody interested in starting an AP from the start? Similar rules as this etc
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Burgess has added far more to the side than Brad Barritt has
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Barritt added less than nothing?
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Burgess played well against Wales. Barritt added nothing to attack like he never has and he and our defence was poor. He shouldn't play for England again.
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Agree with you completely there Steve, but at the same time felt sorry for Barritt as clearly wasn't fit to play and shouldn't have been selected - I'd have taken Burrell personally and not split up a midfield that had scored a lot of tries in 6Nations.
Hope that Slade gets some more game time as a no12 this year - could also be a big year for Deveto at Bath. I like the look of Merchant (might have the name wrong) the young Quins centre as well.
Hope that Slade gets some more game time as a no12 this year - could also be a big year for Deveto at Bath. I like the look of Merchant (might have the name wrong) the young Quins centre as well.
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Burgess will be back in RL soon enough anyway
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Burgess staying in Union
http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12504/10021387/sam-burgess-will-stay-in-union-as-blindside-flanker-says-mike-ford
http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12504/10021387/sam-burgess-will-stay-in-union-as-blindside-flanker-says-mike-ford
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Didn't know Burgess was the highest paid England player, that's crazy for a guy who's only played since December.
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He was on bundles in Aus as its their main sport also he signed when their economy was on the up. It's not the same now so he will get less if he goes back. Aussie exchange rate in toilet.
Brave side picked by Wales ? Why no Lydiate? Is he expecting to out Aussie them with 2 7s with hooper out?
McMahon a great prospect but no 7. Will be a 8 or 6 eventually and a very good one.
Good to see moriarty on the bench for their biggest game. Apparently he has been a monster in training. Too early for him as it has been for Tyler Morgan and Francis who have been out of their depth. However they have exposure at top level and will be better for it. All 3 will be top players and Francis and moriarty big misses for England. Our depth and resources mean the route to caps is longer. Nations like Aussies and Wales blood early and let them grow in to it and accept some poor performances. We have a succeed or disappear kind of policy.
Brave side picked by Wales ? Why no Lydiate? Is he expecting to out Aussie them with 2 7s with hooper out?
McMahon a great prospect but no 7. Will be a 8 or 6 eventually and a very good one.
Good to see moriarty on the bench for their biggest game. Apparently he has been a monster in training. Too early for him as it has been for Tyler Morgan and Francis who have been out of their depth. However they have exposure at top level and will be better for it. All 3 will be top players and Francis and moriarty big misses for England. Our depth and resources mean the route to caps is longer. Nations like Aussies and Wales blood early and let them grow in to it and accept some poor performances. We have a succeed or disappear kind of policy.
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:Barritt added less than nothing?
Yes
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Pooly always been a big Barrit fan so surprised.
For me you know what Barritt will do and he does what's said on the tin. The poor bloke is not a 13 and it's the hardest place to defend in the game especially when in a unit that's never played.
Barritt unfortunate scapegoat like burgess.
Before World Cup circa 4 years ago Lancaster said team would have x amount of caps as all successful World Cup sides have that experience
We enter World Cup over 200 caps down on that target and pick units that have never played together.
His argument was that as all players were familiar with each other in camp they could slot in ??
He also changed his ten who had beaten Wales and Australia through attaching them.
Farrell a good player but we disturbed our game plan for him.
Barritt a decent 12 to lead defence and strangle opposition. However he was not fit and also was asked to play in a unit he had not played in.
Big players in Settled key positions wins games
Quality comparison between teams shows why we were second best
Pocock Genia foley giteau( toomoua wc also) kurindrani
Read smith carter nonu( sbw quality reserve) smith( fekitoa)
Vermaulen, fdp, pollard( lambie great back up) de Allende kriel ( sa lucky injuries have given best team matfield jdv past it and their injuries mean my bok bet looks good)
Lobbe, cubillo, Sanchez, el mago, Bosch
DAVIES biggar Roberts Williams
For me you know what Barritt will do and he does what's said on the tin. The poor bloke is not a 13 and it's the hardest place to defend in the game especially when in a unit that's never played.
Barritt unfortunate scapegoat like burgess.
Before World Cup circa 4 years ago Lancaster said team would have x amount of caps as all successful World Cup sides have that experience
We enter World Cup over 200 caps down on that target and pick units that have never played together.
His argument was that as all players were familiar with each other in camp they could slot in ??
He also changed his ten who had beaten Wales and Australia through attaching them.
Farrell a good player but we disturbed our game plan for him.
Barritt a decent 12 to lead defence and strangle opposition. However he was not fit and also was asked to play in a unit he had not played in.
Big players in Settled key positions wins games
Quality comparison between teams shows why we were second best
Pocock Genia foley giteau( toomoua wc also) kurindrani
Read smith carter nonu( sbw quality reserve) smith( fekitoa)
Vermaulen, fdp, pollard( lambie great back up) de Allende kriel ( sa lucky injuries have given best team matfield jdv past it and their injuries mean my bok bet looks good)
Lobbe, cubillo, Sanchez, el mago, Bosch
DAVIES biggar Roberts Williams
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Sje your assertion that Zebo better than any English back 3 player is debatable.
Even average Dave Kearney above him
15. Rob Kearney
14. Tommy Bowe
13. Jared Payne
12. Robbie Henshaw
11. Dave Kearney
10. Johnny Sexton
9. Conor Murray
1. Cian Healy
2. Rory Best
3. Mike Ross
4. Devin Toner
5. Paul O’Connell (Captain)
6. Peter O’Mahony
7. Sean O’Brien
8. Jamie Heaslip
How they have dropped Henderson is crazy. Most improved player I have seen Henderson been superb and whilst not the lineout King been Ireland's best player pre wc.
Am supporting France and boks as my teams now. Would like to support Ireland on account of having a bit of Irish blood but they are so poor to watch I am all about France
Even average Dave Kearney above him
15. Rob Kearney
14. Tommy Bowe
13. Jared Payne
12. Robbie Henshaw
11. Dave Kearney
10. Johnny Sexton
9. Conor Murray
1. Cian Healy
2. Rory Best
3. Mike Ross
4. Devin Toner
5. Paul O’Connell (Captain)
6. Peter O’Mahony
7. Sean O’Brien
8. Jamie Heaslip
How they have dropped Henderson is crazy. Most improved player I have seen Henderson been superb and whilst not the lineout King been Ireland's best player pre wc.
Am supporting France and boks as my teams now. Would like to support Ireland on account of having a bit of Irish blood but they are so poor to watch I am all about France
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Somebody was busy last night.....
I do rate Barritt, he works well alongside an attacking 10/13. The problem was he was obviously unfit and out of form, something that should have been picked up in the training groups. Looking at it now, we should have went:
12. Twelvetrees/Barritt
13. Joseph/Burrell
Instead of being left with one 13 and a useless plank in Burgess.
I do rate Barritt, he works well alongside an attacking 10/13. The problem was he was obviously unfit and out of form, something that should have been picked up in the training groups. Looking at it now, we should have went:
12. Twelvetrees/Barritt
13. Joseph/Burrell
Instead of being left with one 13 and a useless plank in Burgess.
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Off to Newcastle at 12 to see The All Blacks rattle Tonga no doubt
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:Somebody was busy last night.....
I do rate Barritt, he works well alongside an attacking 10/13. The problem was he was obviously unfit and out of form, something that should have been picked up in the training groups. Looking at it now, we should have went:
12. Twelvetrees/Barritt
13. Joseph/Burrell
Instead of being left with one 13 and a useless plank in Burgess.
Busy/ bored. Driver I am in Newcastle for the game also. Spend a lot of time here these days. What's a good rugby pub in Newcastle ? Does
It actually have one ?
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I've never found one as it usually coincides with the football. Kingston Park is your safest bet but it's outside of the centre.
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anonmattyt wrote:Sje your assertion that Zebo better than any English back 3 player is debatable.
Even average Dave Kearney above him
You might recall I had Kearney in that list as well Matt A quick look on the Irish threads will tell you peoples thoughts on leaving Zebo out and even more so Earls who after Hendo is Irelands form player this world cup.
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Bowe ahead of Zebo and Earls is baffling
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Matt I've pm'd you my number.
Brew Dog is the place to be.
Brew Dog is the place to be.
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Driver wrote:Matt I've pm'd you my number.
Brew Dog is the place to be.
I know brew dog. Mental strength beers. There HQ in
Aberdeen is a really great place.
With clients but may well drop you a line for a cheeky one driver
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Dropping Henderson for Toner = crazy
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Hendo the form man and the better player nowadays but can see the theory behind it CJ. Toner in to get at the lineout and strengthen the maul. Henderson on late on to match up to the physicality of the French subs.
Not expecting a great match for the neutrals. Ireland look set up to kick all day long and try and take advantage of the French wingers positionally.
Not expecting a great match for the neutrals. Ireland look set up to kick all day long and try and take advantage of the French wingers positionally.
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Tonga have the NZ scrum on toast
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Finally caught up with the NZ game, not a penalty for ben smiths try and commentator was right to say that it is basically becoming touch rugby! Had ben smith for first try so quite happy!! Just need nz to score another 20 to bring both bets home!
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SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:Hendo the form man and the better player nowadays but can see the theory behind it CJ. Toner in to get at the lineout and strengthen the maul. Henderson on late on to match up to the physicality of the French subs.
Not expecting a great match for the neutrals. Ireland look set up to kick all day long and try and take advantage of the French wingers positionally.
Dropping Henderson is mental. Been awesome of late.
Off to the game Sunday and hope France kill
Them.
Ireland effective but awful to watch
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