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Post by maestegmafia Mon 14 Sep 2015, 7:18 pm

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WALES vs URUGUAY
Millennium Stadium
Sunday September 20th @ 14:30

Live coverage on ITV and S4C


Referee: Romain Poite (France)
Assistant referees: Pascal Gauzère (France), Mathieu Raynal (France)

Television match official: Ben Skeen (New Zealand)



And so it starts.

RWC 2015, first up for Wales are Uruguay. A team of amateur players that are the lowest ranked team in the competition. They qualified by beating Russia, this is their third RWC. They have won two games previously against Spain and Georgia.

Wales are huge favourites for the game but as the Uruguayans are the weakest team in the group Wales actually have a massive pressure on them to perform at the top of their game and set a bench mark score, that should this pool go down to points, will beat the others in contention.

On the back of a disastrous game in Cardiff against Italy, Wales will have had to re-focus themselves for this game.

Wales have never played Uruguay before. Our A team played them once back in 2001 where a young Shane Williams scored two tries and Gavin Henson excelled at fullback for Wales to win 66 points to 22.

We have no idea what damage teams like England and Australia could do to a tired Uruguay team towards the end of the pool stages. Wales will need to put a cricket score on Uruguay to prove a point before going into our first major game at Twickenham.

Wales Team

Liam Williams (Scarlets); Alex Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues), Cory Allen (Cardiff Blues), Scott Williams (Scarlets), Hallam Amos (Newport Gwent Dragons); Rhys Priestland (Bath Rugby), Gareth Davies (Scarlets); Paul James (Ospreys), Scott Baldwin (Ospreys), Samson Lee (Scarlets), Jake Ball (Scarlets), Luke Charteris (Racing 92), Sam Warburton (Captain, Cardiff Blues), Justin Tipuric (Ospreys), James King (Ospreys).

Replacements: Ken Owens (Scarlets), Aaron Jarvis (Ospreys), Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs), Dominic Day (Bath Rugby), Dan Lydiate (Ospreys), Ross Moriarty (Gloucester Rugby), Lloyd Williams (Cardiff Blues), Matthew Morgan (Bristol Rugby)


Uruguay Team

15 Gaston Mieres, 14 Santiago Gibernau, 13 Joaquin Prada, 12 Andres Vilaseca, 11 Rodrigo Silva, 10 Felipe Berchesi, 9 Agustin Ormaechea, 8 Alejandro Nieto, 7 Matias Beer, 6 Juan Manuel Gaminara, 5 Jorge Zerbino, 4 Santiago Vilaseca, 3 Mario Sagario, 2 Carlos Arboleya, 1 Alejo Corral.
Replacements: 16 German Kessler, 17 Oscar Duran, 18 Mateo Sanguinetti, 19 Franco Lamanna, 20 Agustin Alonso, 21 Juan De Freitas, 22 Alejo Duran, 23 Francisco Bulanti.


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Post by Guest Fri 18 Sep 2015, 6:19 pm

RubyGuby wrote:
majesticimperialman wrote:I see Liam Williams and Samson Lee have been chose for this first game. Surely that is a boost for Wales. Yes.

Sometimes your analysis overwhelms me Maj - Yes I believe it is a plus but he said he would play them last week



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Post by Guest Fri 18 Sep 2015, 6:21 pm

RubyGuby wrote:Gatland will tell the media one thing and his players another - When the feck will you lot learn. Amos and North are in pole position to start on the wings next Saturday by the way.


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Amos would've had more game time in his favoured position, I think. Cuthbert is going to start next week.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Fri 18 Sep 2015, 10:59 pm

Am sure this has all been mentioned but the bench seems strange with 2 t/heads there. Who is the loose head cover.

Am not a King fan but will be good to see how he goes at No8 given we have no other specialist in the squad.
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Sat 19 Sep 2015, 5:56 am

pennys_gold_boots wrote:Worried that Cuthbert will score a few tries against Uruguay, claim to have his 'form back' and then have England pick him to bits next week..

Same here. Never mind the three full games against decent opposition where he offered nothing in attack (bar a 10-metre run-in) and was a liabilty in defence. Rolling Eyes

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 19 Sep 2015, 9:25 am

bedfordwelsh wrote:Am sure this has all been mentioned but the bench seems strange with 2 t/heads there.  Who is the loose head cover.

Am not a King fan but will be good to see how he goes at No8 given we have no other specialist in the squad.
Doesn't Moriarty play number eight as well?


Sam warburton was converted from eight to seven...

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 19 Sep 2015, 1:14 pm

I think Warburton grew up playing all across the back-row, but at international level 7 is his best position.

Moriarty is a 6 and an 8. Not so sure King is an 8 but I think he did alright there in his last start for Wales.

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 19 Sep 2015, 1:17 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:I think Warburton grew up playing all across the back-row, but at international level 7 is his best position.

Moriarty is a 6 and an 8. Not so sure King is an 8 but I think he did alright there in his last start for Wales.

King has played at eight for the Ospreys... I think many would agree but I would have taken Navidi over King..

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Post by flyhalffactory Sat 19 Sep 2015, 2:38 pm

I know many will think I have been on the juice but I think based on potential and form this back row is your best option

6 Warburton
7 Tips
8 Moriarty

I think the Warbs/Tips combo works really well and Lydiate hasnt had a great season, also Moriarty tackles low like Lydiate and is much more dynamic than Faletau.
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Post by maestegmafia Sat 19 Sep 2015, 10:06 pm

Well, looks like both Wales and Uruguay have a lot to live up to. Some great games today

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Post by RubyGuby Sat 19 Sep 2015, 10:29 pm

flyhalffactory wrote:I know many will think I have been on the juice but I think based on potential and form this back row is your best option

6 Warburton
7 Tips
8 Moriarty

I think the Warbs/Tips combo works really well and Lydiate hasnt had a great season, also Moriarty tackles low like Lydiate and is much more dynamic than Faletau.

That is 1 dynamic back row I like it

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Post by majesticimperialman Sat 19 Sep 2015, 10:52 pm

After watching Japan beat SA. Will Wales go fro the Bonus point/s and just how vital will the Bonus point/s become is the Rugby World Cup?



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Post by Guest Sun 20 Sep 2015, 12:22 am

majesticimperialman wrote:After watching Japan beat SA. Will Wales go fro the Bonus point/s and just how vital will the Bonus point/s become is the Rugby World Cup?



Are they in our group too? I don't see the relevance.

Hopefully Wales v Fiji will result in a ref like Peyper who allows a truck and trailer, a player going outside the 15 from a lineout and a knock on by our left wing before our fourth try.

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Post by George Carlin Sun 20 Sep 2015, 6:53 am

Feel free to get this game out of the way with first, but when you have:
https://www.606v2.com/t60615-england-v-wales-26-september
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Post by maestegmafia Sun 20 Sep 2015, 9:11 am

Cheers GC, I see its is all dashing graphics and glitterati as per usual.





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Post by maestegmafia Sun 20 Sep 2015, 9:14 am

After the upsets so far there are definitely a few more butterflies in my stomach than there was before the RWC started with regards to the opener.

All but a massive underestimation of Uruguay's hidden abilities and a collosal improvement in their ability since Japan put forty points on them a few weeks back, does calm the jitters.

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Post by SecretFly Sun 20 Sep 2015, 11:13 am

Wales won't have to go for bonus points against Uruguay.

Even if Wales tried to play well beneath themselves (to keep their enemies guessing) and played in reverse gear and a few of them wore blindfolds, they still wouldn't be able to stop themselves stumbling across the line four times in this game.

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Post by Shifty Sun 20 Sep 2015, 12:58 pm

I'm not hopeful for Uruguay in this game, that's a pretty fast attacking Welsh team. If you watched Uruguay against Japan you'll off seen Uruguay can't handle quick ruck ball at all, they can't defend against pacey players who hit them on the outside shoulder, and have no idea how to defend a 5 meter line out. If you run at Uruguay looking for contact then they will handle it fine, but recycle quickly and their hopeless.

Secondly they concede so many stupid penalties for no reason. They had a player yellow carded for shirt pulling off the ball when the supporting player was never going to be relevant. The first test against Japan even got stopped for racism, when the white Japanease players almost kicked off on the Uruguay tight head prop because he was racially abusing one of the Japanease flankers of asian looks.

Uruguay are not ready for this tournament, Australia and England will smash them off the park.
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Post by George Carlin Sun 20 Sep 2015, 2:03 pm

maestegmafia wrote:Cheers GC, I see its is all dashing graphics and glitterati as per usual.




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Post by munkian Sun 20 Sep 2015, 2:09 pm

flyhalffactory wrote:
Risca Rev wrote:Not too chuffed to see that Gatland said there's not really any places to play for with next week in mind.

I find it incredible and beggars belief that an experienced international coach to make such a public statement!. There are a number of players who could be (to varying degrees) playing better for you Cuthbert, Faletau, Lydiate and Gethin and the likes of Amos, Tips, King, Moriarty and James must be secretly gutted.

Hes just said it was a throw away comment to a stupid question.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 20 Sep 2015, 2:39 pm

Wales look clueless in attack so far. Their body language is all wrong.

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Post by Geordie Sun 20 Sep 2015, 2:41 pm

Uruguay are not ready for this tournament

The first ten minutes would suggest differently Wink

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Post by nobbled Sun 20 Sep 2015, 2:41 pm

Wales discipline is poor.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 20 Sep 2015, 2:41 pm

Uruguay... Not started too badly at all Shocked
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Post by Scottrf Sun 20 Sep 2015, 2:42 pm

Wonder if Uruguay will rest players for the tougher games later in the match.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 20 Sep 2015, 2:42 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:
Uruguay are not ready for this tournament

The first ten minutes would suggest differently Wink

Probably best to judge them on 80 minutes...

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Post by Geordie Sun 20 Sep 2015, 2:44 pm

Mikey...I fully expect Wales put a cricket score on these...but its nice to see them come out and give them a go

Uruguay penalised there for a feed???? Has any game so far actually HAD a straight put in????


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Post by Shifty Sun 20 Sep 2015, 2:48 pm

Yeah you knew that was coming Uruguay cant defend a 5 meter line out, Japan were ruthless with that against them.
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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 20 Sep 2015, 2:49 pm

I'm hoping to see more in attack from Wales next week, rather than just this 13 man driving maul from the lineout.

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Post by Shifty Sun 20 Sep 2015, 2:50 pm

Why are the Welsh posters being so negative? The key here is to move Uruguay around the field. The points will come in the last 30 minutes.
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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 20 Sep 2015, 2:51 pm

Here we go, Priestland is back missing his kicks to touch.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 20 Sep 2015, 2:52 pm

Shifty wrote:Why are the Welsh posters being so negative?  The key here is to move Uruguay around the field.  The points will come in the last 30 minutes.

It's only me who is not in Cardiff - I think the backs are playing rubbish. No brains in attack, keep dropping ball or getting turned over.

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Post by nobbled Sun 20 Sep 2015, 2:53 pm

And normal service will now be resumed...
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Post by Shifty Sun 20 Sep 2015, 2:54 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
Shifty wrote:Why are the Welsh posters being so negative?  The key here is to move Uruguay around the field.  The points will come in the last 30 minutes.

It's only me who is not in Cardiff - I think the backs are playing rubbish. No brains in attack, keep dropping ball or getting turned over.

Their going wide early to tire them out quickly, by 30 minutes their players will be walking to set pieces at this rate.

I'm in my holiday home in Pendine Hug
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Post by TightHEAD Sun 20 Sep 2015, 2:55 pm

Wales will walk this, why are people panicking it's not everyday of the week minnows beat high ranking teams!
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Post by TightHEAD Sun 20 Sep 2015, 2:56 pm

Very nice shifty I like pendine
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Post by nobbled Sun 20 Sep 2015, 2:58 pm

Clumsy tackle there but not deliberate high.
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Post by TightHEAD Sun 20 Sep 2015, 3:01 pm

Bit like yesterday's SA Japan game, Wales just can't pull away.
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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 20 Sep 2015, 3:01 pm

Apparently Williams isn't good.

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Post by TightHEAD Sun 20 Sep 2015, 3:02 pm

This TMO Poopie is getting annoying
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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 20 Sep 2015, 3:02 pm

That didn't seem bad at all.

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Post by nobbled Sun 20 Sep 2015, 3:05 pm

Cheeky non-engage of the maul from Uruguay! Sneaky. I like it!
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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 20 Sep 2015, 3:06 pm

There doesn't seem to be much urgency. I hope that's because we have something else in store for England, which we're waiting to unleash!

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Post by nobbled Sun 20 Sep 2015, 3:06 pm

That should calm the nerves a bit! Nice try.
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Post by Shifty Sun 20 Sep 2015, 3:09 pm

Oh god not Jarvis Sad
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Post by wales606 Sun 20 Sep 2015, 3:15 pm

Wales look rusty.

And we could have lost another FB, hope it isn't serious and he can get up to speed in training, but even if he does make the England game he better be up to speed.
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Post by whocares Sun 20 Sep 2015, 3:18 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Apparently Williams isn't good.

I just replaced Huget by Liam Williams in my fantasy team and now this! Hope it's not too serious though.

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Post by glamorganalun Sun 20 Sep 2015, 3:18 pm

Allen has scored two tries but he has been so poor also Amos should not be on the field. Overall a poor performance to half time, it looks like they have not played together except in the gym.

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Post by wales606 Sun 20 Sep 2015, 3:20 pm

Good to get the score before HT.

Hopefully Uruguay will tire and we can rack up some points in the second half.

Paul James off injured though :L, not good with only 2 LHPs in the squad.
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Post by majesticimperialman Sun 20 Sep 2015, 3:23 pm

Is Williams injury serious or just a precaution. Will be a shame if it is serious,

What happend to paul james?

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Post by Shifty Sun 20 Sep 2015, 3:24 pm

There we go we got the 4 tries now, hopefully we can shake the rust off and go to town in the second half a bit. If you'd offered us the 4 tries before half time I think most of us would of taken it, they should tire badly soon.
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