Would Khan get credit for beating Manny?

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It looks like this might happen in the first quarter of 2016(which would annoy me as that would mean Khan being out the ring for close to a year again). Arum has stated he is talking to Khan's team about the fight. I have my doubts it will happen as uncle Al and uncle Bob don't get on but assuming it does happen wil Khan get credit if he beats Manny?

After all Manny is 37(closer to 38 when the fight takes place). He has not looked that great lately and is coming off a one sided loss against Floyd(no shame there). He is also coming off a shoulder operation.

So if Khan beats Manny does he get any credit?

Khan will get huge credit from me for even taking the fight, let alone winning it.

Find it funny how Khan is considered a ducker for not fighting the top ten welters and instead concentrating on the top two welters who are both definite future hall of famer's.

Manny should handle Khan fairly easily, just think he'll e able to time him on the way in and catch him with something that will do enough damage.

Would have given him more chance against Mayweather but would have expected him to lose that as well.

I like Khan, nothing to with race, religion or anything else. Thought since everyone who doesn't like him has to point out that it is nothing to do with race that I should probably point out my liking him is to do with the fact he is a good boxer who has had an incredible career already.

Find it funny how Khan is considered a ducker for not fighting the top ten welters and instead concentrating on the top two welters who are both definite future hall of famer's.


Perhaps because of the huge pay day and a chance of winning the lottery if he wins.

You are correct though. Very easy fight for Manny, him and Freddy must be loving this.

The problem with Khan at 147 is that you know with his lack of power Manny will get 12 to find him....

However like Garcia, Manny can expect to be outboxed early..

Khan might be the best 3 or four round boxer about. It is after that, his mind wanders and he gets caught.

He is really suited to the ametuer game.

AdamT wrote:Khan might be the best 3 or four round boxer about. It is after that, his mind wanders and he gets caught.

He is really suited to the ametuer game.

Yet made it to be World Champion, guess that makes him similar to Hatton in that he has been able to become one of the best in the world despite some obvious weaknesses. You have convinced me he deserves more respect than I initially credited him with.

He deserves respect for being a champion and a good fighter.

I just don't believe he is World Class.

I rate Hatton much higher than Khan.

AdamT wrote:Khan might be the best 3 or four round boxer about. It is after that, his mind wanders and he gets caught.

He is really suited to the ametuer game.

Michael Gomez said that about himself after he put Khan on his rear end then faded a couple of rounds later. Khan will always get labeled "chinny" and there will always be doubts about his stamina and concentration. Many have said that whilst his trainers over the years have made improvements to his all round game, against the very best, he's always going to run the risk of getting tagged and that's when he reverts to type and brawls. It's ok saying that he can use his speed and reflexes to keep Fighter X at bay but a quality operator isn't going to give Khan the luxury of fighting at his own pace.

As for the Manny fight, if it comes off then fair play to him. Whether he wins or not is up in the air as I feel it depends on whether or not Manny's "injury" against Floyd was genuine. I'm skeptical as I fail to see how a torn rotator cuff prevents a fighter from bobbing and weaving which was such a feature of Manny's game.

Taking selfie's before the Mayweather fight.....

Manny was counting dollars.....The win was optionable.

Agree with you there Truss. Considering the rivalry between the two for years prior to the bout, and genuine debate for years over who was no.1, Manny came across as a guy just happy to be there. As if Floyd had done him a favour.

Very disappointing for me personally as for years I much preferred Pac and wanted to see him win. Had a terrible feeling when I saw Pac snacking on something and promoting a product after the weigh in.

Floyd didn't just win due to skill, his mentality was far better on the night. Seemed to want it more.

AdamT wrote:Find it funny how Khan is considered a ducker for not fighting the top ten welters and instead concentrating on the top two welters who are both definite future hall of famer's.


Perhaps because of the huge pay day and a chance of winning the lottery if he wins.

You are correct though. Very easy fight for Manny, him and Freddy must be loving this.

He knows they are shots to nothing though. Lose to Manny and everyone else loses to him (Bar Mayweather)...lose to Mayweather and he lost to the best.

My dislike for him comes from the way he talks about other boxers 'not being on his level' despite the evidence saying otherwise.

I actually think he has the balls to fight anyone and believes in himself. Just think the whole Mayweather saga has made him believe his own hype.

He might actually be ambitious....Ever thought of that.....

He is looking a pay day Truss. If he was ambitious and believed in himself, he would fight Brook and win.

Mayweather and Manny choose fights.they earned that right for facing and beating the best

Amir is talented, but very carefully managed.

He is world class one night, then sh1t the next. For every Alexander or Judah performance, there is a McCloskey and Algieri.

Not consistent enough for me. Every athlete has off nights, but Khan has plenty.

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B.A. BARACUS wrote:Going back to the issue of race, it is interesting to note the kind of respect and adulation Naz gets on forums in comparison to Khan.

What made you compare the two? Naz is of Yemeni descent while Khan is of Pakistani descent, two different countries separated by over 2000 miles.

I'm the opposite of the people you mention on the forums. I never cared for Naz that much, but I like Khan.

The suggestion was that Khan gets an unwarranted amount of criticism because he is a Muslim and/or of Asian heritage. He shares these traits with Hamed, that is the reason i made the comparison.

I'd also suggest that in the eyes of the average British person, they are are both simply viewed as British Asians, despite the fact, as you say, they have very different ancestry.

Guys forget the racism please.

I don't pick up malicious tones in posts. I actually believe most of you guys seem good genuine people.

Maybe I'm naive but I don't think there is any racism. I can guarantee I am not racist. I come from a country steeped with history of violence and hate.

I am proud to say I have made many close friends of a different background.

Basically if anyone is racist, sort your lives out and realize you're scum.

Rant over. Just fed up with race talk on a decent forum. I like stirring and being a jerk, but would prefer to stay out of that sh1t.

Khan is British end of.

Apparently, Khan vs Pacquiao agreed for April 9th 2016 in Vegas. Thoughts.

It's ON!!!!!!!!!

Pac batters Khan into retirement in my opinion. Even in Pac is at 70% he takes this.

Arum says it's bullsh1t. Dam it.

..... dammit, it probably will happen though and people will see that Pacquiao is a different level to Khan

Means Bob's not happy with the numbers yet. Probably wants 90/10 or 85/15. Khan should really have his begging bowl out if he wants Manny. But I think Manny wants an easyish fight to test his shoulder. Could be Khan's last fight if he gets the right deal.  If he can just move a bit, I think it can happen. But Danny Garcia knocking around too so Khan needs to show a bit of give and take. Crawford ain't getting the fight that's for sure.

Surely Khan's team would've learned their lesson about announcing things without permission. Pretty much lost the Floyd fight for doing the exact same thing.

I would have thought Crawford would have got the Manny fight in a passing of the ppv torch type of fight. Arum needs to ensure that it's one of his fighters that beats Manny before retirement.

Khan won't beat Manny. Not the injured shoulder may 2nd version either. Not good enough. Good chance of a stoppage if it happens.

You're assuming Manny is only going to fight one more time. I don't believe it myself.

I would have thought Arum would leave Crawford till Manny's last fight. Manny can make too much money before then and time to build up Crawford even more. I suppose if Manny really is retiring, then yes, Crawford gets it.