Would Khan get credit for beating Manny?

by wheelchair1991 Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:16 pm

First topic message reminder :

It looks like this might happen in the first quarter of 2016(which would annoy me as that would mean Khan being out the ring for close to a year again). Arum has stated he is talking to Khan's team about the fight. I have my doubts it will happen as uncle Al and uncle Bob don't get on but assuming it does happen wil Khan get credit if he beats Manny?

After all Manny is 37(closer to 38 when the fight takes place). He has not looked that great lately and is coming off a one sided loss against Floyd(no shame there). He is also coming off a shoulder operation.

So if Khan beats Manny does he get any credit?

by Guest Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:23 pm

Well when Manny fought Mayweather, Manny was denied painkillers for the shoulder injury while Mayweather went for a complete blood transfusion to boost his oxygen levels and flush the enhancements from his body. He got clearance after the fact from a body that wasn't recognised by the state holding the fight. In theory the Mayweather - Manny result should have been reversed and Mayweather should have received a four year WADA ban.

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:23 pm

wheelchair1991 wrote:
RanjitPatel wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Devon Alexander and Algieri are bigger names than Brook fought when he was a contender....Or since he's been champion..

Do the rules change for Khan ??

The rules do change for Khan due to racism. Simple as that. It's dressed up as not liking his personality but overall it's just plain racism.

Mate give it a rest race has nothing to do with it, not from anyone on this thread anyhow

It's naive to assume some on here who hate his background don't dress up stupid arguments to denigrate him as cover.....A lot of the arguments against Khan on here are stupid....

Not you though Wheels don't think you have a malicious bone in your body...

by wheelchair1991 Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:28 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
wheelchair1991 wrote:
RanjitPatel wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Devon Alexander and Algieri are bigger names than Brook fought when he was a contender....Or since he's been champion..

Do the rules change for Khan ??

The rules do change for Khan due to racism. Simple as that. It's dressed up as not liking his personality but overall it's just plain racism.

Mate give it a rest race has nothing to do with it, not from anyone on this thread anyhow

It's naive to assume some on here who hate his background don't dress up stupid arguments to denigrate him as cover.....A lot of the arguments against Khan on here are stupid....

Not you though Wheels don't think you have a malicious bone in your body...

Cheers truss

by Lance Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:50 pm

I think it would be a good win for him. Khan likes big pay cheques and if he could get Manny it would still be the second biggest fight he could get. Would be no excuses if he turned it down.

Hard to predict what mentality and condition Manny turns up with next time.

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:54 pm

I will swear on my boys life I do not hate Khan. Especially because of race.

He is a gobby d1ck though.

by **ShahenshahG** Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:56 pm

AdamT wrote:I will swear on my boys life I do not hate Khan. Especially because of race.

He is a gobby d1ck though.

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:58 pm

Shah you're. A special

by **ShahenshahG** Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:00 pm

AdamT wrote:Shah you're. A special

by Lance Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:00 pm

Hate Khan all you like. Only idiots need to play the race card and vain people quickly fall in line needing some approval for being on the right side.

My best mate is a Zimbabwean, didn't stop me getting into a fight with aa black guy on Saturday. Some posh girl assumed I was racist

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:01 pm

Least you're consistent.

Who wins Shah? Your bum boy or Manny?

by **ShahenshahG** Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:07 pm

AdamT wrote:Least you're consistent.

Who wins Shah? Your bum boy or Manny?

Mayweather

by Lance Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:09 pm

Khan is a big time celebrity who has a busy PR team keeping him relevant. His fights don't usually come cheap either. People have every right to criticise him when he tries to sell poor fights.

But he has had more good fights than most. I like him a lot more than I like Brook. But if you want to be a star you will always have detractors for various reasons.

The people that dislike him for his race are probably outnumbered by those that cheer him on because of his heritage. I wouldn't worry about him, he does okay on this score I think

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:09 pm

Roid Mayweather?

by **ShahenshahG** Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:17 pm

AdamT wrote:Roid Mayweather?

Witty

Are you saying that Floyd Mayweather Jr is using steroids?

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:19 pm

Spelling error mate.

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:20 pm

I will make no such accusations on this forum. I.V been bad.

Sorry guys.

by **ShahenshahG** Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:20 pm

AdamT wrote:Spelling error mate.

Gutless as well as witless.

Goodnight one and all

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:22 pm

Hardly gutless. Is he going to land af my door with his entourage?

Good night wee man.

by RanjitPatel Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:23 pm

wheelchair1991 wrote:
RanjitPatel wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Devon Alexander and Algieri are bigger names than Brook fought when he was a contender....Or since he's been champion..

Do the rules change for Khan ??

The rules do change for Khan due to racism. Simple as that. It's dressed up as not liking his personality but overall it's just plain racism.

Mate give it a rest race has nothing to do with it, not from anyone on this thread anyhow

Give it a rest? It's the first time I've mentioned it and it has everything to do with racism but no one ever mentions it even though it's obvious. People are scared to say the truth.
Khan might be a bit annoying at times but to receive the amount of hate that he does can't all be down to him thinking he's better than he is (which boxer doesn't) and chasing a Mayweather fight (who wouldn't). It hasn't been eradicated from society and it seems you don't want to believe it.

I'm white but lets call a spade a spade.

nothing to do with race laughing

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:25 pm

Ranjit are you Shah?

by RanjitPatel Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:27 pm

AdamT wrote:Ranjit are you Shah?

clown

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:28 pm

He is I agree.

by RanjitPatel Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:31 pm

I'm not Shah and I've no idea why you'd ask that.

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:34 pm

It was a joke mate. You done a laugh that he always uses.

Also mate, if you're going to play the race card don't pretend you're from an other ethnic background to prove a point.

Be proud of your heritage.

by Hammersmith harrier Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:37 pm

I think a large part of the dislike for Khan is down to race as shameful as that is but some of it is down to his borderline obsession with Mayweather which has dragged on for far too long. It's somewhat lost now that he was actively seeking out and fighting the best at 140lbs before he was taken on a merry dance. Glass chins don't stand up to the shots he took from Maidana.

If Mayweather does indeed bugger off I would hope he reverts to type and starts fighting the best at Welterweight too, he's not always been a selective matchmaker.

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:39 pm

I may be a horrible c..t but I am honest.

I really just don't like Khan. F..k all to do with race. I hate no race. Just people.

I am white and it has been proven to be the worst race ever in history.

by RanjitPatel Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:39 pm

AdamT wrote:It was a joke mate. You done a laugh that he always uses.

Also mate, if you're going to play the race card don't pretend you're from an other ethnic background to prove a point.

Be proud of your heritage.

I'm not playing the race card lol, I haven't got a race card to play.

When have I pretended to be from a different ethnic background?

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:41 pm

Google Ranjit Patel.

by RanjitPatel Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:46 pm

it's just a username. Eric Idle played the character in splitting heirs.
mental bloke.

by Herman Jaeger Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:47 pm

Not good enough for the top light welters, wouldn't have a prayer with the top welterweights- Thurman, Porter or Brook, even Bradley, once he'd ducked Matthysse the plan was always to get him a big fight without facing a top welter, only way to go. It was always a question of whether the paying public were gullible enough/dumb enough to buy it. Seems that they are.

Just so transparent though.

by Hammersmith harrier Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:48 pm

When did Khan duck Matthysse exactly?

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:49 pm

Finally someone that knows what they are talking about.

by Herman Jaeger Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:53 pm

Hammersmith.....

We can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:55 pm

Herman Khan has half the country brainwashed.

People actually think he is world class.

by **ShahenshahG** Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:56 pm

Herman Jaeger wrote:Hammersmith.....

Cos your friends dont dance, and if they dont dance.

?!

overreaction

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:57 pm

You finished banging the local mongrel already Shah?

Didn't take you long.

by **ShahenshahG** Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:00 pm

AdamT wrote:You finished banging the local mongrel already Shah?

Didn't take you long.

Witless

by Herman Jaeger Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:00 pm

I know Adam, he may not be a world class fighter, but you got to hand it to him, a world class conman he most surely is.

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:01 pm

A mere Con.

by jimdig Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:04 pm

Khan get credit for beating the p4p highest active welterweight?? Nah don't be daft, when has Khan ever got any credit. I hear he's not even English, got his passport of that geezer who sold Obama his.

by wheelchair1991 Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:04 pm

I don't hate Khan because of race, i don't like him because he's extreemly deluded, wasted his peak chasing Floyd and been made to look silly while doing it.

He talk about himself in the 3rd person all the time as well which is a big no no

by Hammersmith harrier Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:05 pm

Herman Jaeger wrote:Hammersmith.....

Well they're no friends of mine.

Not like me calling you out on talking a load of nonsense?

I suppose Khan ducked the beltless Matthysse when he was busy trying to unify the division, no doubt you think he should have fought him instead of Judah and Garcia. Now what do those two have in common?

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:06 pm

Hammer did he chase a rematch with Garcia?

by Herman Jaeger Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:07 pm

No point in arguing [redacted].

If you can't see he ducked Matthysee then there's little hope for you.

Just don't respond to my comments in future.

Ok?

by Hammersmith harrier Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:13 pm

Or you could act like an adult for a change and try to explain your nonsense, at no point did Khan duck Matthysse lets get that straight to start with. He openly and actively stated he wanted to unify the division before moving up which is what every boxer should do, he fought Kotelnik (WBA), Judah (IBF), Garcia (WBC) and then wanted Bradley (WBO), if you can explain where Matthysse fits in to all that then go ahead otherwise drop the BS.

by wheelchair1991 Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:14 pm

Oh dear another thread gone down hill due to name calling

by Herman Jaeger Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:18 pm

People in glass houses

by **ShahenshahG** Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:23 pm

Why don't you answer the question and then debate with anyone who actually wants to debate the issue with you?

by Herman Jaeger Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:26 pm

Actually Shah, I don't mind Khan as a person, this is strictly a boxing related matter.

He needs to beat a top welter to get Manny.

This is why boxing is losing fans. It's a con.

by Hammersmith harrier Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:28 pm

ShahenshahG wrote:Why don't you answer the question and then debate with anyone who actually wants to debate the issue with you?

He has no foundation for his claims and he makes up this nonsense in the hope that I or some other hopelessly foolish poster replies and he can start an argument. It's the same line every single time; 'Not debating with a cretin and if you don't know that Fighter A ducked Fighter B then there is no hope for you'. The best one was when he said Hopkins ducked Kovalev despite fighting him.

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