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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun 11 Oct 2015, 7:33 pm

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Breaking News: Bath move off the foot of the table with their first win of the season, Sale & Quins remain unbeaten while Saints pick up a crucial win at the Madejeski. 



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2014/2015 – London Wasps
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish





                                           

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1Season 8 Homepage III - Page 7 12Sale Sharks75201921712120123027
2Season 8 Homepage III - Page 7 7Harlequins      75201891692017110024
3Season 8 Homepage III - Page 7 5London Irish 75021901751516112224
4Season 8 Homepage III - Page 7 9Northampton Saints74211861751115142022
5Season 8 Homepage III - Page 7 8Newcastle Falcons   7313177177015161318
6Season 8 Homepage III - Page 7 4Leicester Tigers7304174179-511150416
7Season 8 Homepage III - Page 7 57Worcester Warriors 7304174185-1113160416
8Season 8 Homepage III - Page 7 11Saracens7214177174314121415
9Season 8 Homepage III - Page 7 48Exeter Chiefs  *7223177176114130314
10Season 8 Homepage III - Page 7 2Gloucester   * 7205167189-2213170411
11Season 8 Homepage III - Page 7 1Bath Rugby7124176183-713160411
12Season 8 Homepage III - Page 7 6London Wasps7106156182-261015059


Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
    Player Draft
    Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

    Round Bidding
    There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.    

    Open Bidding
    From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Driver Wed 11 Nov 2015, 5:06 pm

IR now saying they are after a proven International coach with proven abilty.

Laughed at the idea of AF taking over
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Post by ChequeredJersey Wed 11 Nov 2015, 5:21 pm

Driver wrote:IR now saying they are after a proven International coach with proven abilty.

Laughed at the idea of AF taking over

Why laugh? THat is both worrying feasible and unthinkably horrible!
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Post by ChequeredJersey Wed 11 Nov 2015, 5:23 pm

Driver wrote:Ian Richie confirms the RFU will be willing to buy out a coach from another Union.

Joe Liden takes over for now by the sounds of things.

Pleeeeease be Jones
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 11 Nov 2015, 5:51 pm

It doesn't matter who's in charge in the interim as nothing is really happening.

It'll be Jones or White I imagine, hopefully the latter. Not a Jones fan, I wouldn't trust him to stay around.

Jake White with a top attacking coach like Smith would be fantastic.

I think Jones is just the flavour of the month because of what he's done with Japan, I've never been overly impressed with him.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Wed 11 Nov 2015, 8:03 pm

Smith won't leave NZ though
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Post by Guest Thu 12 Nov 2015, 7:42 am

I have placed 50 quid on white for next coach. 9/2 currently. Hope it's Jake white it's who I wanted originally.he fits the type of players we have

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 12 Nov 2015, 7:46 am

ChequeredJersey wrote:Smith won't leave NZ though

I think he's said he's taking a year off an traveling Europe??? Who know though, if you throw enough money at someone, anything is possible.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 12 Nov 2015, 9:30 am

Apparently Borthwick is in the running for forwards coach

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 12 Nov 2015, 9:35 am

Steven_Sharks wrote:Apparently Borthwick is in the running for forwards coach

Interesting.

Was he lineout coach for Japan or Forwards coach? He did a good job either way.

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Post by BamBam Thu 12 Nov 2015, 9:43 am

Will Greenwood is going for SCW, with Jones as head coach, Borthwick and Gustard as forwards and defence coaches

Think Borthwick was forwards coach for Japan

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 12 Nov 2015, 10:46 am

The RFU would sadly never go back in for SCW, they see him as toxic as he wouldn't put up with all their rubbish. He'd be brilliant for the job, RFU are a shambles - look at the way they've dealt with the salary cap issue recently.

White would be a good choice, would quite like to see Alex King involved, but Shaun Edwards could also be a good call due to his international experience. Mustard is a great defence coach.


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Post by dammit_chris Thu 12 Nov 2015, 10:50 am

I read the Greenwood article Bam and when he listed all the quality young backs we had but didnt use enough (or at all) during the WC - Slade, Nowell, Daly, Wade, Deveto etc and then the likes of Ford, Watson and Joseph and we've potentially got a very dangerous backline.

Personally think we are going to have to take a punt on Slade or Deveto as our no12 - as much as I rate Joseph I think our backline needs a guy like Tuilagi as a guy to get us over the gainline and act as a battering ram - but is also getting difficult to ignore Daly's form and boot.

Would like to see us go with a backline of:

9. Care
10. Ford
11. Nowell
12. Slade
13. Tuilagi
14. Watson/May
15. Brown/Watson

21. Simpson 22. Cipriani 23. Joseph

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 12 Nov 2015, 10:59 am

Back 3 wasn't really an issue so can rule out Wade, Nowell (who was involved anyway).

I like Devoto but he hasn't even nailed down his shirt at Bath, never mind England. Daly still has defensive issues and is behind Joseph so again not a huge issue, I think these pundits just like to spout the same things over and over tbh.

I like that backline but Ford needs to get in form and learn to control a game from the back foot. Tuilagi just needs to play rugby and May is more a left winger. I think we need a physical option in midfield and Joseph is our only outstanding centre currently, we build around him.

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Post by BamBam Thu 12 Nov 2015, 11:29 am

I'm a big a fan of Manu as anyone, but think it'd be madness to bring him back in for the 6N even if fit, let him get a solid few months under his belt for Leicester before bringing him back into the squad for the tour of Australia next summer.

Joseph is as good an attacking outside centre as there is in world rugby, build our side around him even if it means Slade isn't the starter at 12 and we go with the physical presence instead.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 12 Nov 2015, 11:39 am

Joseph is out for 4 months I think. I agree he's the best attacking centre we have, but as we don't have a top class option at no12, think Tuilagi fits in better to the style of play we need to adopt - he's back at the end of December. Need to get that better balance for our backline.

Haven't seen a single issue with Daly's defence this season - seen all of Wasps' games this season as well, he's had a lot of positive press on that area of his game this season.

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Post by BamBam Thu 12 Nov 2015, 11:44 am

Oh yeah I'd completely forgotten that he was injured.

In which case I'd go with Slade and whichever of the "physical presences" is in the best form, be that Burrell or erm ..... Erm

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 12 Nov 2015, 12:09 pm

I watched the game before last and him and Wade had major defence issues, even a Wasps fan commented how bad he was. He was pretty good last match and made some strong long range kicks.

I'm a fan but his defence is poor at times.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 12 Nov 2015, 8:11 pm

White has thrown his hat in...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/jake-white-would-happily-england-6820602

Smith has said he's taking a year out but could be tempted if the money is right. I wonder if we could get him on a part time basis?


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Post by BamBam Fri 13 Nov 2015, 12:29 pm

JD2 is rejoining the Scarlets


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 13 Nov 2015, 3:52 pm

Cipriani charged with drink driving

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Post by Fluxy Fri 13 Nov 2015, 10:49 pm

Impressive win by Tigers this evening

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Post by Guest Sat 14 Nov 2015, 7:09 pm

Sarries look really good. Vuipolas been great. Not sure Toulouse had there heads in it.

Fraser done really well and must be in the mix. Barnes said he is like hooper???? He is nothing like him but a decent player. Not sure if he has potential to step up but like kvesic we need to have a look at him

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Post by Guest Sat 14 Nov 2015, 7:23 pm

This game also highlights why for me picamoles is not a top 8. He is poor on back foot. Has missed quite a few long kick catches by not calling for it and hiding.just does not work hard off the ball. Phenomenal carrier and a top 8 if on front foot. In the right backrow he works but you have to alter team to accommodate him by having really hard to working flankers.

Billy v works so much harder and much better all round game. Mako and Jamie George excellent

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat 14 Nov 2015, 9:54 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Sarries look really good. Vuipolas been great. Not sure Toulouse had there heads in it.

Fraser done really well and must be in the mix. Barnes said he is like hooper???? He is nothing like him but a decent player. Not sure if he has potential to step up but like kvesic we need to have a look at him

Not surprising that they didn't have heads in it Sad


Are we doing all matches as if they would have happened this weekend?
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Post by BamBam Sat 14 Nov 2015, 10:19 pm

Any idea where I could watch the full Sarries game online? Forgot to record it!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 15 Nov 2015, 4:01 am

Acrossthetasman has most games on to download. If you need an invite, ping me a pm with your email address.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 15 Nov 2015, 6:05 am

A few Sarries players available for deals:

HK Guilhem Guirado (France)

PR Ben Franks (New Zealand)
PR Xavier Chiocci (France)

PR Jannie Du Plessis (South Africa)
PR Tomas Francis (Wales)

LK Geoff Parling (England)
LK Patricio Albacete (Argentina)
FL Thierry Dusatoir (France)
FL Heinrich Brussow (South Africa)

FH Pat Lambie (South Africa)
FH Morne Steyn (South Africa)

CE Marcelo Bosch (Argentina)
CE Tom Taylor (New Zealand)
CE Maxime Mermoz (France)

WG Hosea Gear (New Zealand)
FB Scott Spedding (France)

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 15 Nov 2015, 7:47 am

Telegraphs side for 2019:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk//rugbyunion/international/england/11995818/England-XV-for-2019-World-Cup.html?image=7

15. Anthony Watson
14. Nathan Earle
13. Jon Joseph
12. Henry Slade
11. Jack Nowell
10. George Ford
9. Dan Robson

1. Joe Marler
2. Luke Cowan-Dickie
3. Paul Hill
4. Joe Launchbury
5. Maro Itoje
6. Nathan Hughes
7. Will Fraser
8. Billy Vuinipola

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 15 Nov 2015, 8:25 am

Some bold calls in there, not least Hill and Earle, both of whom are nowhere near the England squad right now.  Not such a problem with Earle, as you can relatively easily drop a winger into the equation with no international experience in a world cup year (Milner-Skudder), but really I would suggest you want your starting tighthead with a bare minimum of 30 caps.

I would be amazed if that was to be side, and whilst some player changes are necessary, we need to be careful that we don't throw the baby out with the bath water.  England showed on occasions that we can play and do have good players, the problems seemed to come from muddled selection and changing the game plan late on.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 15 Nov 2015, 8:46 am

Yea there's some question marks.

Hill will be an England cap sooner rather than later, I've not seen a TH as dominant as him since Cole burst on the scene. He's looked very impressive from the bench for such a young age, I think he'll get past Brookes within the season and possibly get capped next.

Earle is an obvious talent but hasn't made an AP appearance yet, they're certainly putting a lot on potential.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 15 Nov 2015, 8:56 am

I think we all do that sometimes, rate potential over established ability.  England have a lot of wingers who could nail down the jerseys, Earle has a lot of work to do to grab one.

I do agree on Hill, that he has a huge amount of potential, but we need to bear in mind that Dan Cole will still only be 32 in 2019, and David Wilson 34.  Both could still be in the England set up at that time.  Paul Hill will still only be 23.  The 2023 World Cup may be his time for being the starting tight head.

These predictions 4 years ahead of time do amuse me though.  We have no clue whatsoever what our team is likely to look like for the 2016 6 Nations opener, or even who will be picking it at this stage, so anything beyond that is wildly speculative.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 15 Nov 2015, 9:06 am

Yeah agree, it's a total punt.

I think Hill will turn 25 during the WC, he's 21 now.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 15 Nov 2015, 9:14 am

Little older than I thought he was then.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 15 Nov 2015, 9:39 am

I think Cole was 22 when he got his first cap which is quite young I suppose for a prop. Hill seems to be following those footsteps.

Getting past Brookes is the big moment really as he's obviously 3rd choice currently. I think that 3rd spot is up for grabs with Thomas looking good so far.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 15 Nov 2015, 2:19 pm

Anyone watching Leinster - Wasps? What's happening? Wasn't expecting that

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 15 Nov 2015, 2:23 pm

What channel is it?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 15 Nov 2015, 2:26 pm

Bt Europe

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 15 Nov 2015, 2:28 pm

Just found it cheers, that's not a proper channel! Hardly works on my box

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Post by BamBam Sun 15 Nov 2015, 2:35 pm

Toomua joining Leicester next season

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 15 Nov 2015, 2:42 pm

Good signing. Not been at his best of late but will make a good partner for Tuilagi(if he ever plays again!)

Leinster do not look good at all.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 15 Nov 2015, 4:34 pm

Henry Trinder is back, I wonder how long he'll last this time.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun 15 Nov 2015, 5:45 pm

LCD over George? Bold
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 15 Nov 2015, 5:57 pm

Guys I think need to be looked at pretty sharpish for England consideration: Slade, Clifford, Kvesic, Itoje, George, Ewers,Wade.

Others who might come into consideration: LCD, Beaumont, Fraser, Gibson, Daly, Robson, Hughes, Collier, R. Harrison.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 15 Nov 2015, 6:16 pm

I wouldn't have Wade or Ewers near Steve. Wade has had some real shockers in defence and Ewers has looked too slow around the park.

It all depends on how we're going to play under the new coach I suppose.

LCD needs a season learning how to throw and the jury is out on Beaumont (behind plenty of 8 options).

Robson, Slade and Kvesic have impressed, as have George, Fraser and Hughes.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun 15 Nov 2015, 6:34 pm

Clifford needs another season, though I'll put money on him one day being England captain.

Daly will be involved soon, as 23 covering all the backs outside 10
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 15 Nov 2015, 6:37 pm

Exeter v Ospreys a good game for those at a loose end

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 15 Nov 2015, 6:39 pm

If Daly could improve his defence he'd be a real option

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 15 Nov 2015, 6:44 pm

I do think we need to pick our bench better. It looks so often unbalanced. Players on the bench don't necessarily in my view need to be the next best option but should guys who can do a job across the board or offer an impact. Especially as outside back replacement.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun 15 Nov 2015, 6:51 pm

I think Daly's defence is good enough. It will get better being tested at Int level and playing with better players
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 16 Nov 2015, 12:50 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:I think Daly's defence is good enough. It will get better being tested at Int level and playing with better players

It's really not up to standard CJ. I've watched him closely the last 3/4 games and he slips off way too many tackles.

Take the Leinster game when Wasps were on top throughout, Daly missed 4 tackles, that's just not good enough for me.

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