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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:33 pm

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Breaking News: Bath move off the foot of the table with their first win of the season, Sale & Quins remain unbeaten while Saints pick up a crucial win at the Madejeski. 



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2014/2015 – London Wasps
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish





                                           

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11Season 8 Homepage III - Page 17 1Bath Rugby7124176183-713160411
12Season 8 Homepage III - Page 17 6London Wasps7106156182-261015059


Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
    Player Draft
    Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

    Round Bidding
    There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.    

    Open Bidding
    From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:58 am

"Jones was only allowed to make 11 changes to the World Cup squad because of the rules that ­govern the agreement between the Rugby Football Union and the clubs while injuries have limited some of his options with Henry Slade, Jonny May, Ed Slater and Dave Attwood all unavailable"

Why do we have the EPS? Surely it would be better if the new coach had more
Freedom
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:24 am

It's an agreement between the RFU and the clubs so they can plan to some extent for losses during the 6N's and AI.

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Post by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:27 am

I know but it does hamper to an extent. Amazed no kvesic but glad to see hill involved.

No way ready yet but will be the future. Great prospect. I regret releasing him now

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Post by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:28 am

Some players look naturals and him and itoje look the real deal

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:40 am

It does and it doesn't.

A Saxons squad will be picked and anybody can be called up from that. That makes about 60 players or so.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:40 am

Rumours going about that Marler may not be selected and either Mullen or Waller will be in, not sure how much truth in that.

Also it's between Devoto and Hill for the extra centre spot with Tulagi, JJ and Daly. Tuilagi as a 12 bizarrely.

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Post by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:17 am

Can't see Waller being anywhere near squad personally. Mullen has played well but neither for me are international quality.


Mako been exceptional but outside that we do not have any other loosehead really putting their hand up

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Post by Fluxy Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:41 am

Ben Moon, Ross Harrison, Nic Auterac have all been playing good rugby when they have played.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:47 am

They'll convert Manu to a no12 as we have so many great options to pick from at no13 and if Daly gets the shirt you have that kicking and distribution option - could be potentially a very exciting combination of Ford, Manu and Daly if it comes off.

Jones seems to want a ball playing no12 though, so it is a real shame that Slade is injured, but Deveto has shown some really good promise, I'd quite like him at Wasps.

Mullan deserves his chance and great to see some youngsters being given their chance, Hill has looked very good for Saints and under Lancaster I don't think he'd have been given a look in.

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Post by Fluxy Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:57 am

Sam Hill intrigues me, very much Giteau like in stature (give or take a few cms and a good few more kgs!) but can play straight up or distribute if needed. I know he was behind Slade and Whitten at Chiefs, but is young and one to watch perhaps.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:04 am

Hill is the one worth a look at. Tuilagi's distribution will always hold him back at 12, can't see him playing much this 6N.

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Post by BamBam Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:04 am

JJ is the one to build the backline around for me, find what complements him best

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Post by ChequeredJersey Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:41 am

JJ struggling ATM though
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Post by Fluxy Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:47 am

This may shock a few, apparently Martin Moore has signed for Wasps

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:12 pm

We've apparently signed Tommy Taylor from Sale as well. We do need a stronger front row and are after quite a few more players as well from the sounds of it on their way to the Ricoh.

Apparently, Jones and Cockerill has agreed to let Tuilagi play for us in the final 2 games of the 6Nations and give him the chance to get match fit. Really looking forward to him being back for us, he may have his limitations but gives our midfield so much punch.

Certainly be interesting to see who Jones goes for in midfield, from the sounds of it Barritt is out of the squad? Assume Burrell is as well. BBC saying Marler has been too.


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Post by BamBam Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:18 pm

Eng squad

Props - Marler, Mullan, Mako, Cole, Hill, Thomas (injury replacement for Brookes)
Hooker - Hartley, George, LCD
Lock - Lawes, Launchbury, Itoje, Kruis
BR - Robshaw, Haskell, Kvesic, Clifford, Billy V, Beaumont (Kvesic injury replacement for Ewers)

SH - Care, Youngs
FH - Ford, Farrell
Centre - JJ, Daly, Hill, Devoto (Hill and Devoto injury replacements for Tuilagi and Slade)
B3 - Brown, Nowell, Watson, Yarde, Goode


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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:30 pm

Bit surprised Morgan doesn't get in.

Beaumont offers something very different to billy which I like.

Suprised with Wood omission.

Paul Hill still very very raw for a International. 

Very puzzled as to the make up of our midfield?

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Post by Fluxy Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:34 pm

I think either our midfield will have Faz at 12, or Devoto.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:28 pm

Amazed Wood dropped and Haskell kept, both haven't been in great form of late but thought Wood was actually very good at the weekend for Saints. Morgan needs to rediscover his form and shouldn't have gone to the WC, looks like a few of them are getting a kick up the backside.

Both Burrell and Barritt gone, think that is a step in the right direction but at same time surprised Barritt has gone.


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Post by dammit_chris Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:31 pm

Has Tom Youngs been dropped?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:36 pm

Wood and Youngs both dropped.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:48 pm

I like the make up of the team. Simpson and Cips will slot in if there are injuries. Midfield will be Hill, Joseph/Daly. I'd not have picked Haskell but it's not a bad squad
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Post by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:36 pm

Some bold decisions and intrigued by the midfield. What we have been picking does not work so think he has done the right thing.

Devoto is a real talent

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:16 pm

Devoto a talent but has showed nothing this season, surprising call. Happy with Yongs finally making way, he just can't cut the mustard. Odd to replaced with the one hooker with an even worse throw though.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:50 pm

LCD can hook though 


Also, Ward contests your claim there
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:47 am

We could have a right contest in the making.....

Ward v Youngs v LCD

First one to hit a barn door wins.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:46 am

Devoto has taken his chance every time he's play for Bath, but I'm surprised he's got in there when he's not first choice for Bath when all the midfield is fit - Eastmond must be pretty annoyed first Burgess now Deveto!

Deveto reminds me a bit of Greenwood in the way that he plays, but he has to be given more game time otherwise he won't fulfil his talent. Can see why Jones wants him involved in the setup, SCW wrote he's very excited about his inclusion.


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Post by dammit_chris Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:52 am

Such a better squad than what Lancaster would have gone for, we might end up losing a game but you can see that they are going to be a team that actually attacks.

Think we'll see Ford, Farrell, JJ midfield against Scotland, not sure about Farrell as no12 though but he seems to have developed more of a running game this year and good kicking options at least.

Very surprised Yarde in over Roko and big risk only having 2 no9s in the squad as if either Care or Youngs get injured then it sounds as though Simpson is third choice now and he won't have learnt the calls, tempo of the game and got to work with the no8 at all.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:15 am

Devoto hasn't took his chance Chris, he's not played well this season imo. I think it's a forward thinking selection as he has all the attributes to be a good 12(like 36) but isn't producing it due to not getting regular starts.

A lot of Bath fans surprised with Ford's inclusion in the squad due to his form, he's lucky Cipriani isn't ripping up trees as he could have missed out.

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Post by BamBam Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:22 am

Wasn't it rumoured that Devoto could end up at Exeter? Wouldn't be good to have 3 of our potential 12 options all at the same club, even if Slade is eventually going to be at 10

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Post by Fluxy Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:28 am

Devoto was rumoured to be off to Wuss as well. Being seeing as Wuss as signed up Ben Te'o and another big centre, I think they may have done their midfield shopping for now.

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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:50 am

Tom youngs been told to work on his ball carrying and throwing in according to telegraph.

LCD will get tons of caps and is seen as the future.
Still not fully there at the moment but we have to bring through potential world class players.

He has done the same with Hill who is a lot further off than LCD. It's called development.

Jones himself has said none of the new caps will start against Scotland. In today's telegraph he says Clifford is an 8 long term but will maybe learn his trade at 7 before swapping to 8.

Says Devoto is there as a future pick also.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:52 am

Of course they're future picks, Hill & LCD are not ready to start. Strange Hill is down as 2nd choice TH mind and Thomas injury cover.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:27 pm

Did you watch Ford play against Toulon Pooly? That's probably why he is in the squad. Deveto has played well though in the games I've seen, only one he hasnt was away at Newcastle but whole backline was a shambles in that and conditions weren't great. You're right that he needs more game time though and personally wouldn't have him in the squad but as a youngster who trains with the others - think it shows how bare our options at no12 are right now.

Deveto still looking at leaving Bam, I hope he comes to Wasps and can't see him going to Chiefs or Worcester - Te'o looks a good player when not injured and has said he wants to play for England too.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:51 pm

The injury cover stuff is all games to get a larger training squad and a mix of players to try this 6N. I think Jones will try the injury replacement players sooner to see how they do knowing that he has them for less time
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Post by ChequeredJersey Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:53 pm

I wouldn't trust the telegraph if it said Paris were the capital of France
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Post by ChequeredJersey Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:55 pm

Btw of no new caps are starting vs Scotland, that means Farrell at 12...
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:03 pm

One swallow doesn't make a summer Chris. Ford has had a dire season by his standards.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:10 pm

CJ with no new caps do you reckon that's a back row of Robshaw, Kvesvic and BV playing then? Actually has balance and all 3 playing exceptionally well.

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Post by Driver Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:17 pm

I think he'll want too win and win well against a Scotland team which is always improving under Vern Cotter and there might be a smidgen of revenge for Jones after they knocked his Japan side out of the world cup. I expect an experienced side for that game with Robshaw , Kvesic on the flanks.

I wouldn't be overly surprised if Billy Vunipola is named as captain if Hartley isn't in the starting team.
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Post by ChequeredJersey Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:18 pm

dammit_chris wrote:CJ with no new caps do you reckon that's a back row of Robshaw, Kvesvic and BV playing then? Actually has balance and all 3 playing exceptionally well.
It's what I'd pick from the squad. Clifford on the bench covering all 3, with Itoje on the bench adding extra 6 cover too
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Post by ChequeredJersey Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:21 pm

For Scotland:

Brown
Watson
Daly/JJ (either)
Hill
Ashton (unless Nowelll is fit)
Farrell
Care (Youngs fine)
Vunipola
Kvesic
Robshaw 
Launchbury (Itoje if not fit)
Kruis (Lawes if not fit)
Cole
Hartley (George if not ready)
Vunipola

Marler, George(Hartley), Hill, Itoje (Lawes), Clifford, Youngs, Ford, Daly/JJ
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Post by ChequeredJersey Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:23 pm

I don't believe the Telegraph that we will have no new cap in the centres
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Post by Driver Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:30 pm

I think for the Jocks game we'll see

Ashton , Brown , Watson
Sam Hill , JJ
Farrell , Youngs

Vunipola , Hartley , Cole
Launchbury , Kruis
Robshaw , Vunipola , Kvesic

Marler, George , Hill , Lawes , Clifford , Youngs , Ford , Daly

I don't think Itoje is as ready for international rugby as some think he is.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:49 pm

Itoje is as ready as Hill x 2.

Anything other than Thomas on the bench as tight head is a huge surprise. No new caps will start though

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Post by ChequeredJersey Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:09 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:Itoje is as ready as Hill x 2.

Anything other than Thomas on the bench as tight head is a huge surprise. No new caps will start though

So Farrell at 12 then? vomit
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Post by ChequeredJersey Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:09 pm

And Ford on current form at 10 :/
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Post by dammit_chris Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:34 pm

If it is Ford/Farrell then we are going to need some ball carriers outwide, Nowell should definitely start for that, even though he's not the quickest and can see Yarde getting a chance too if Nowell isn't fit. I'm not a fan of him but the backline needs some balance and a couple of guys who can challenge the gainline.

Can see Jones going:

Youngs
Ford
Watson
Farrell
JJ
Nowell
Brown

But wouldn't be surprised if we saw Daly come in due to his current form and could be any of Watson, Yarde of Ashton.

Feel a bit bad for Simpson, he's suffered due to Wasps shocking form, he hasn't been that bad for us but only guy we have playing decent rugby is Launchbury, when Hughes comes back it seems to pick up the whole team.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:37 pm

I just don't think I can justify current form Ford at 10 and Farrell at 12...
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Post by dammit_chris Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:13 pm

Ford's a confidence player though and was excellent against Toulon, hopefully that will kick start him. On that basis though you'd take out JJ and Watson from the team as well. We've still got 3 odd weeks to go, so hopefully things will change.

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