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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun 11 Oct 2015, 7:33 pm

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Breaking News: Bath move off the foot of the table with their first win of the season, Sale & Quins remain unbeaten while Saints pick up a crucial win at the Madejeski. 



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2014/2015 – London Wasps
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish





                                           

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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
    Player Draft
    Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

    Round Bidding
    There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.    

    Open Bidding
    From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 24 Jan 2016, 5:22 pm

Players on the pitch won't know they only need 3pts to go through, the message needed to get out.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jan 2016, 5:23 pm

Eddie Jones must be thinking he has landed on his feet. Great to see Exeter progress. They are a fantastic club

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 24 Jan 2016, 5:25 pm

Healy: James Short for England Rolling Eyes

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jan 2016, 5:25 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Players on the pitch won't know they only need 3pts to go through, the message needed to get out.

On the main board It's saying That players had The message and it was a moment of madness. Nobody will ever know if they did have the message:

4 teams through Exeter sarries Leicester and wasps by my reckoning

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jan 2016, 5:27 pm

I am off to a the final in Lyon. Hopefully an English team can make the final and Glos the challenge final on the Friday. Will be a great weekend

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun 24 Jan 2016, 5:49 pm

There's automatically an English team in the final! 4 of them all on one side of the draw!
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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun 24 Jan 2016, 5:50 pm

anonmattyt wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Players on the pitch won't know they only need 3pts to go through, the message needed to get out.

On the main board It's saying That players had The message and it was a moment of madness. Nobody will ever know if they did have the message:

4 teams through Exeter sarries Leicester and wasps by my reckoning

5. Saints too
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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jan 2016, 5:53 pm

Great news

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 24 Jan 2016, 7:47 pm

Sorry about lik of predos was up watching the Wasps game yesterday and been watching my friend play in national finals for basketball in Sheffield today! Haven't had a chance to get online

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Jan 2016, 10:42 am

I can't do this weeks AP games, off to Dubai at the weekend and it'll no doubt be messy.

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Post by Fluxy Mon 25 Jan 2016, 2:23 pm

So Hartley has been named as the man to lead England, thoughts?

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Post by Driver Mon 25 Jan 2016, 3:00 pm

Right appointment,

Lancaster was too busy picking players who had a good image, Hartley is a quality option at 2 and and a fierce competitor.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Jan 2016, 3:03 pm

Fair choice, just needs to start playing well....which he isn't currently.

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Post by BamBam Mon 25 Jan 2016, 3:11 pm

On form he's still the best hooker and rightly first choice, I just hope he gets back to that form asap 

Also, anything that gets up the noses of the opposition like this seems to have is fine by me!

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Jan 2016, 3:32 pm

Right appointment and possibly the only option sadly.

We lack leaders so let's hope more emerge

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 27 Jan 2016, 6:37 am

Wood dropped because of lack of work rate:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/england/12123692/.html

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 27 Jan 2016, 8:50 am

I think it may backfire picking Hill so early at Tighthead.

Granted Brookes injury hurts us but Thomas has been playing good rugby. 

It might work but I'd be very wary.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 27 Jan 2016, 9:07 am

Hill has been nothing more than solid in the set piece which is to be expected seen as he's only 20. Thomas has been up and down, I imagine they'll be able to find out more in training.

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Post by Guest Wed 27 Jan 2016, 9:39 am

I am happy hill has been picked. We are weak at tighthead with Brooke's injured and Cole not the player he was since injury. We need to look to next World Cup. I think hill could be a star so am keen we get him involved with no other alternatives about.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 27 Jan 2016, 9:50 am

He's certainly got some gas for a big man.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 27 Jan 2016, 12:03 pm

Anyone surprised by any of the players cut by the England team? Initially disappointed with Daly being sent back to Wasps as think he's been most inform back in Europe over last few months, but with Farrell at no12 it would never work with Daly outside him and JJ seems a better fit, even if he doesnt have any form.

Just a bit surprised Jones sees Haskell as a no7 - is it a case of just getting someone with a lot of caps and experience for what is usually a pretty tight, gritty game up in Scotland?

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Post by ChequeredJersey Wed 27 Jan 2016, 12:07 pm

Let's hope.


As for Daly not working with Farrell at 12- easy answer- don't put Farrell at 12
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Post by BamBam Wed 27 Jan 2016, 12:11 pm

Farrell either starts at 10 or bench, playing him at 12 is pretty much guaranteed to fail

Ford is our best 10, but at the moment Farrell is out playing him and deserves the start, Devoto/JJ outside him would be the way I would go

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 27 Jan 2016, 12:50 pm

Daly's defence would be a worry against Scotland, give him a run against Italy.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 27 Jan 2016, 1:06 pm

Pooly, I think you're the only person I see who mentions Daly's defence as an issue - since Brad Davies has coached our defence at Wasps he's been very, very good there and in all the papers they've been saying how good his defence has become - he's actually Wasps's defence leader too, and marshalled Nonu and Basteraud twice easily, outplayed Leinster twice. Don't agree that he is weak defensively in anyway at all.

Amazing how Deveto has got into the match day 23, didn't think he'd get anywhere near.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 27 Jan 2016, 2:15 pm

Why's he not in Chris?

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 27 Jan 2016, 2:33 pm

(i) a Farrell/Daly combination wouldn't work at all, JJ a better fit (ii) Jones clearly going with a starting lineup with experience and caps, hence no debuts apart from the guys off the bench.

Nothing to do with his defence in my opinion, as the guy has been best no13 in Europe this season. Think he'd have been a better option off the bench than Goode though.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 27 Jan 2016, 2:36 pm

So in your opinion it's not his defence. In my opinion it's his defence holding him back, he'll perhaps get a chance against Italy.

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Post by BamBam Wed 27 Jan 2016, 2:37 pm

dammit_chris wrote:(i) a Farrell/Daly combination wouldn't work at all, JJ a better fit (ii) Jones clearly going with a starting lineup with experience and caps, hence no debuts apart from the guys off the bench.

Nothing to do with his defence in my opinion, as the guy has been best no13 in Europe this season. Think he'd have been a better option off the bench than Goode though.

As would my 87 year old great aunt.

Daly should be on the bench, covers 13, FB, and has the pace to play wing in an emergency, why not

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 27 Jan 2016, 2:49 pm

Haha very true Bam, Goode's possibly the best AP standard fb going but for me he just doesnt quite have an element of his game that can be considered world class. The run he did to set up Spencer for his try at the weekend was very good.

Can anyone see the Ford and Farrell combination working at all?

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Post by Fluxy Wed 27 Jan 2016, 2:52 pm

It did at U20's...

Run

(just to pay devil's advocate)

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 27 Jan 2016, 2:54 pm

It didn't work well even in the U20's imo.

Daly may yet make the bench, nothing is concrete.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Wed 27 Jan 2016, 3:37 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Daly's defence would be a worry against Scotland, give him a run against Italy.

What will a run against Italy tell us about any player though?
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 27 Jan 2016, 3:40 pm

Gives him an introduction to international rugby. He's uncapped and has suspect defence(which we already know). Get Gustard working on him and see what he can do.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Wed 27 Jan 2016, 3:48 pm

Daly has already played against a better international team than Italy and scored a wonder try
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Post by dammit_chris Wed 27 Jan 2016, 3:56 pm

I don't get that reasoning? He's played brilliant games for Wasps in the European Championship, where he plays against opposition that he will be facing in the 6Nations. Have you seen how many tackles JJ has been dropping off lately for Bath? Also why are so many rugby pundits saying that he's a good defender?

The only issue I have with Daly is that he still throws that risky pass when he doesnt need to, he's improved a lot there but look at the Toulon away game where one of his passes led to a turnover and a Toulon try.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 28 Jan 2016, 6:33 am

Not that it matters but most articles have said how great Daly has been playing BUT his defence isn't great.

If he was solid defensively, he'd be starting, it's that simple.

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Post by Guest Thu 28 Jan 2016, 7:06 am

Rumours sbw to play in Europe
Next year?

He will not
Have played 15 a side rugby for a year by then so will be interesting to see if he still has it.

Both him and messam are taking the year off to play 7s for a place at Rio olympics. Surprised no English players have gone down that route

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 28 Jan 2016, 8:29 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Not that it matters but most articles have said how great Daly has been playing BUT his defence isn't great.

If he was solid defensively, he'd be starting, it's that simple.

Lol, sure you say 90% of things as a wum. Eddie Jones said he picked JJ due to the extra experience, which would be vital in a tough away game against Scotland, the likes of Greenwood, Healy, McGeechan have all praised Daly's defence in recent articles and how much it has improved. Little bored of this one now tbh.

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Post by Guest Thu 28 Jan 2016, 8:44 am

Eddie Jones has gone for experience. He needs to get the public onside.

He said himself we would not see new caps starting but would see a few on the bench.

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Would have Goode ahead of Daly on the bench as you know laidlaw will test the full back and I think you can't put a part timer there off the bench.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 28 Jan 2016, 8:47 am

Just because I have an opinion doesn't make it a wum. I'm hardly slating the lad, he's a cracking player. He's just got poor defence and can be targeted.

Not really interested in what pundits say as it's just an opinion but I've read Greenwood say he defensive issues and Healy also.

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Post by Guest Thu 28 Jan 2016, 8:37 pm

Healy is a moron but this is a good article.
I think the conservatism by Jones is too much but also think he is hampered by lack of options/

Picking robshaw at 6 haskell 7is all wrong as we have no balance again
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/england/12128580/Six-Nations-2016-Eddie-Jones-promised-us-a-brave-new-world-instead-his-first-England-squad-is-same-old-story.html

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 28 Jan 2016, 8:52 pm

Healy's articles generally pretty good in the Telegraph - hard not to agree with him on a lot of those points, I'd have liked to have seen Itoje and Daly in the match day 23. Just amazed that Haskell is being considered as our choice for no7, you'd have hoped we'd have gone for an out and out no7.

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Post by Guest Thu 28 Jan 2016, 9:03 pm

What message does it send to kvesic who has been outstanding for 2 seasons.

I know we are light on 6 options so why not play itoje. Robshaw for me not an int 6 or 7. His lack of carrying effects the balance like lydiate does for Wales.

Daly for me should have started. JJ in wretched form despite being our classiest back.

Farrell at 12 when he is playing so well at 10 is odd.

I hope we try and play a brand of rugby that is quicker and not the turgid Lancaster style.

If Mako Hartley Kruis start the pack will be playing form players with energy and go
Forward.
Kruis been best English forward this year . Also having marler George and lawes is good impact. Who will be bench backrow ?


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Post by ChequeredJersey Thu 28 Jan 2016, 9:24 pm

Goode's defence is poor and he's slower than Daly on the cover too, but he's got the bench spot instead of him. That's the weirdest bit. Can understand him not starting, but either of Devoto or Goode benching in his place makes so little sense to me
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Post by ChequeredJersey Thu 28 Jan 2016, 9:30 pm

Clifford bench backrow- rapid, can carry a bit, good on the floor (but no "fetcher"), covers all 3 positions, good impact sub
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Post by Guest Thu 28 Jan 2016, 9:32 pm

I think Daly not playing Fb and Scotland love of the high ball made the decision.

Also If Farrell not working at 12 then a 12 needed hence Devoto.
It will be wet so a Devoto as a kicking option instead of hill as 12 cover ??

I would have had bench backs different. Would have had a debut at 12 and ford Daly Goode bench

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Post by Guest Thu 28 Jan 2016, 9:32 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:Clifford bench backrow- rapid, can carry a bit, good on the floor (but no "fetcher"), covers all 3 positions, good impact sub


Great option and future star. Great pick

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Post by ChequeredJersey Thu 28 Jan 2016, 10:09 pm

Daly's a good fullback and has played a lot there though.
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Post by Guest Thu 28 Jan 2016, 11:32 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:Daly's a good fullback and has played a lot there though.

I actually think he could be a good
Fullback and certainly better than goode but he has not played there much this year if
At all. He has played 13. FB a very specialist position


That said fb is one of the key attacking positions where ball is received in space and in broken field and Daly would be great in that aspect. Goode is a shocker pace wise and defence wise but 15 seen as position where taking highball more important over here.

Brown is heroic for England and makes tackles, great takes and Is all action and generally outstanding but I would argue he does very little for us in terms of making us a counter attacking force. He also does not work well with any back 3 as he is not a ball player and a poor kicker. Reminds me of Matt Perry who was a rock for England but at the same time was also one of our failings. It's such a hard job getting the team right.





Back 3 is a unit and need to know each other. Goode nowell Watson and brown are familiar from training camps.

We also have tons of injuries like slade may etc in the backs and no scrum
Half who is worth a place internationally.

If fit back line could well have been

Farrell may slade JJ Watson and Brown which has more balance. JJ been picked by Jones admission for experience and Scotland away is fierce.

Can't see a grand slam winner of 6n. Scotland much improved, Ireland on way down , France ??????, wales some issues in key positions, Italy dire and England much to improve.

Should be entertaining

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