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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:33 am

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Breaking News: Bath move off the foot of the table with their first win of the season, Sale & Quins remain unbeaten while Saints pick up a crucial win at the Madejeski. 



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2014/2015 – London Wasps
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish





                                           

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1Season 8 Homepage III - Page 18 12Sale Sharks75201921712120123027
2Season 8 Homepage III - Page 18 7Harlequins      75201891692017110024
3Season 8 Homepage III - Page 18 5London Irish 75021901751516112224
4Season 8 Homepage III - Page 18 9Northampton Saints74211861751115142022
5Season 8 Homepage III - Page 18 8Newcastle Falcons   7313177177015161318
6Season 8 Homepage III - Page 18 4Leicester Tigers7304174179-511150416
7Season 8 Homepage III - Page 18 57Worcester Warriors 7304174185-1113160416
8Season 8 Homepage III - Page 18 11Saracens7214177174314121415
9Season 8 Homepage III - Page 18 48Exeter Chiefs  *7223177176114130314
10Season 8 Homepage III - Page 18 2Gloucester   * 7205167189-2213170411
11Season 8 Homepage III - Page 18 1Bath Rugby7124176183-713160411
12Season 8 Homepage III - Page 18 6London Wasps7106156182-261015059


Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
    Player Draft
    Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

    Round Bidding
    There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.    

    Open Bidding
    From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Driver Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:37 am

dammit_chris wrote:Ford's a confidence player though and was excellent against Toulon, hopefully that will kick start him. On that basis though you'd take out JJ and Watson from the team as well. We've still got 3 odd weeks to go, so hopefully things will change.



Agree 100% on JJ. Was awful against us at Kingston Park. One of the worst performances i'v seen from a 13 up there.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:26 am

Ford has been dire, he needs a run of games to prove himself.

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:53 am

Everyone saying he will start Haskell at 7 and that George smith is working with him and may actually join the England set up as breakdown consultant

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:55 am

How is starting Haskell at 7 and Robshaw at 6 ANY different to Haskell at 6 and Robshaw at 7?!
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Post by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:25 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:How is starting Haskell at 7 and Robshaw at 6 ANY different to Haskell at 6 and Robshaw at 7?!


My sentiments exactly CJ.

Jones said
" you would not send a rookie Aussie batsman against the West Indies bowlers of the 80s and the same principle applies to the Scotland game. "

Then talked of how George smith has worked with Haskell.

Haskell is an impact player and has the odd stormer starting for England. However he has consistently shown he is not good enough due to his lack of brain.

Jones also cited his 55 caps which makes him most experienced player with Hartley

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:40 pm

But on that basis only, what, Italy will ever result in any new starters?!?!

Scotland, in theory, are the second easiest team we are certain to play outside of world cups. I know it's away, but still, that's self-defeating logic I thought we were doing away with.

And if the choice was between the rookie talented opening batsman or the experienced but a bit out of form lower order batsman pushed in out of position who'd never , I'd take the opener.

Kvesic has caps. Pick him, pick Clifford, but don't pick Haskell and pretend that he's any more of a 7 than Robshaw or that this pairing is magically any different from what Jones specifically criticised England doing the past 4 years. I don't think a "real 7" is the be all and end all, but if that is one's philosophy, one should stick to it.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:59 pm

Clifford is another who falls into the "not quite ready" department. Fantastic talent but he's raw, he needs work. Glad to see him involved though.

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Post by Fluxy Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:43 pm

Devoto has signed for Exeter Chiefs, not sure if that is good for him or not. Maybe as a twelve, with Slade moving to 10?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:36 pm

Not sure if Slade has ever played 12 for Exeter Flux, what's that mean for Hill?

Really like Devoto but he needs game time, perhaps Wasps would have been a better call.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:32 pm

If Slade ends up at 10 for Exeter I can see him being England's long term fly half tbh

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Post by BamBam Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:38 pm

Agree Pooly

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:39 pm

Yeah not sure that's a clever trade for Exeter or Devoto, unless Devoto is aiming for 13?
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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:41 pm

Manu at 12 for Tigers. Reckon Jones has told Cockerill and Manu that he can be world class at 12 to convince him to move there even though he didn't want to when looking at clubs and stuck with Tigers because they promised to let him play 13
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Post by BamBam Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:42 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:Manu at 12 for Tigers. Reckon Jones has told Cockerill and Manu that he can be world class at 12 to convince him to move there even though he didn't want to when looking at clubs and stuck with Tigers because they promised to let him play 13

With Toomua arriving next year, how realistic is it anyway?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:45 pm

Agree Bam.

Generally 12's can distribute.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:57 pm

BamBam wrote:
ChequeredJersey wrote:Manu at 12 for Tigers. Reckon Jones has told Cockerill and Manu that he can be world class at 12 to convince him to move there even though he didn't want to when looking at clubs and stuck with Tigers because they promised to let him play 13

With Toomua arriving next year, how realistic is it anyway?

And JDV... Who could cover 13 too! It's called depth

I don't think Toomua is all that, you can make Manu a better 12 than Toomua
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Post by dammit_chris Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:51 am

Toomua will play at no10 ahead of Burns and Williams. Leicester really splashing the cash at the moment. Tuilagi is only 24 so will improve if he avoids injury, Nonu hardly known for his handling when he converted and he did alright...

Strange move for Deveto, what a great batch of young EQ the Chiefs will have for next season though. Is a risky move as you look at Robson at Wasps and he isn't getting anywhere near enough game time to develop as Simpson is our first choice by a country mile.

Thing with a lot of comments about likes of Clifford and Itoje is that they have performed in Europe and that's a pretty big step up from AP - they are both natural leaders so would''t be surprised to see both feature in 6Nations as clearly both have the talent and physicality.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:25 am

Both captained the U20s too
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:59 am

Lots of players to come through. Clifford will be 8 but will he ever be better than Billy V?

A front row of mako, LCD and hill in years to come could be legendary. Toomua is world class and always in world top 3 in position when they do the rugby world survey of all countries.

Agree Leicester will have him as 10 and let him interchange. Manu a 13 for me

Toomua unlucky that giteau is so good.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:54 pm

Greenwood was singing Toomua's praises in the Telegraph today, good piece actually on how Mauger has completely changed Cockerill's outlook and approach to rugby, that they want to get the ball in hand more and you don't see Cockerill moaning about every decision any more. Leicester starting to look a good team again, thought they made a lot of average signings at the start of the season but likes of McAfferey and co really stepped up.

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:15 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/european-rugby/12103926/Leicester-Tigers-47-Benetton-Treviso-7-match-report-Manu-Tuilagi-makes-impact-after-first-start-for-15-months.html

Tuilagi will not play 6n first 3 games

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:52 pm

Anybody seen much of Ospreys this season? I didn't know they'd picked up Sam Underhill from Gloucester who's been getting some rave reviews, outplaying SOB last week apparently??

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/sam-underhill-reminds-david-pocock-10722469

There were even a few suggestions that he might have made the England squad, I've not even seen him play I don't think.

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:03 pm

He was fantastic the few times I have seen him. I had him on here for a bit but cut him due to squad numbers.

He is at Cardiff Uni and they are trying to get him qualified for wales on residency.

He is some way off international rugby. Wales online is a bit of a comic on rugby and talks up anything welsh.

He looks a fine prospect but still very young. Would not be surprised to see him come back to the AP. He is 2/3 rd choice at Ospreys which is to expected at that age.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:11 am

Wales online think that any schoolboy in Wales should make the England squad
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Post by BamBam Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:33 am

ChequeredJersey wrote:Wales online think that any schoolboy in Wales should make the England squad

Ha, very true!

Although Underhill was very good against Clermont on Friday

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Post by Fluxy Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:42 am

Rumours on the main board that Rob Webber is off to Sale and Stooke is moving to Bath.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:44 am

Tommy Taylor is off to Wasps so I'd be pleased with Webber back.

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Post by dammit_chris Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:26 am

Yeah we've got Taylor, quite a few others coming from the sounds of it as well.

See Ashton has been cited for making eye contact, didn't look malicious during the game but can see him getting a ban during the 6Nations. He can be such a muppet at times as he could have been a starter with the injury to May!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:30 pm

Fluxy wrote:Rumours on the main board that Rob Webber is off to Sale and Stooke is moving to Bath.

Good moves as both have went hugely off the boil, especially Webber who seems really overweight.

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Post by dammit_chris Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:52 pm

Joys of fund bid deadlines this week - can someone throw this team in for me please:

1. Mako Vunipola
2. Ashley Johnson
3. Ramiro Herrera
4. Jonny Gray
5. Courtney Lawes
6. Sam Jones
7. David Pocock (c)
8. Billy Vunipola
9. Joe Simpson
10. Matt Giteau (k)
11. Julian Savea
12. Weslie Fofana
13. Elliot Daly
14. Adam Ashley Cooper
15. Ben Foden

Replacements:
16. Dylan Hartley 17. Wyatt Crockett 18. Zander Fagerson 19. Joe Launchbury 20. Samu Manoa 21. Sam Hildago-Cline 22. George Ford 23. Manu Tuilagi

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:24 pm

Page is up Chris

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Post by dammit_chris Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:24 pm

Thanks Pooly, didn't see it there.

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Post by Fluxy Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:48 am

I've updated all of the sides for the next round of Euro fixtures. 

If anyone is up for a deal hit me up OK

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Post by Guest Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:03 am

Ashton banned for 6n. He is the morons moron. Was playing so well and despite his defensive aberrations must have been in reckoning. Will not see him in an England shirt again.


Some players just have are not that bright and find ways of letting themselves down.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:23 pm

I imagine he would have started.

It's clumsy more than malicious though, he's appealing the decision apparently.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:04 pm

Jones has brought in George Smith as a breakdown specialist, I do like the way he's going about things.

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Post by Guest Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:52 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Jones has brought in George Smith as a breakdown specialist, I do like the way he's going about things.


Posted this a while ago. It was unconfirmed then. It makes utter sense. I was not that fussed by Jones but he has really impressed me.

I am staying in the Lensbury hotel in Middlesex at the moment and it has a rugby pitch and all the England u 20s training. Some real monsters

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:03 pm

Apologies guys for the lack of results its been a hectic few days. Will get them tonight. Cheers for picking up the thread again Fluxy thumbsup

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Post by Driver Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:31 pm

Might need a 15th Manager...

http://www.rugbyweek.com/boudjellal-wants-toulon-to-play-in-premiership/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
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Post by Fluxy Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:51 am

I think you mean 13th Whistle

Not to worry SJE, my invoice is in the post OK

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Post by dammit_chris Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:30 am

How was Cipriani overlooked for England, last 3-4 games he's got his kicking up to close to 100% as well.

http://www.rugbydump.com/2016/01/4862/danny-cipriani-sets-up-nev-edwards-with-another-great-bit-of-attacking-play

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:54 am

Thoughts on Connacht winger Healy?
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:30 am

Good read highlighting Simpsons stats and passing compared to care and youngs.

Scrum half is a position where we are not great and I for one think we should have taken a look at Simpson at least off the bench.

Would also like to see the sarries lad and Robson in Saxons

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Post by Guest Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:31 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/european-rugby/12114819/Joe-Simpson-must-take-out-his-England-Six-Nations-heartache-on-Leinster-in-Champions-Cup.html

Link would help

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:10 pm

It's Simpsons passing and game management that's holding him back. He's certainly had a good season but I don't think he's at the level of Care & Youngs.

Cipriani has picked up but a little too late maybe, his kicking has been pretty dire up until a few games ago. He'll have a shot in summer if he keeps playing well I imagine.

Rumours Underhill is going is going on the summer tour with Jones using the exception rule. Crazy how he's come from nowhere.

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Post by Guest Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:22 pm

As good as under hill looks it's also a sign of how desperate we want a 7 to emerge.

Great thing about jones being Australian is they are not worried about picking an 18year old in the squad. Aussies have picked youngsters over the years wiTh good results.

Also stops wales capping him: another good player Gloucester have let go!!

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:06 am

What was parra thinking. Clermont out. Super surprised at that. They are usually beasts at home. Great game of rugby

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Post by prop_lyd Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:13 am

I'd blame the coaching staff matt, surely they should have got the message on to say we only need 3 points. Exeter vs Wasps in next round will be a cracker!!
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Post by Guest Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:14 am

Clermonts ability to choke is staggering prop, great game of rugby and drama

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:20 am

Possibility of 3 English sides in the semis, what a year.

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