Is anybody wanting Fury to win because he's British ???

Just kind of curious if nationality matters in this fight ??

I know that a couple of guys on here (Hammer and Derby I believe) wanted Murray to beat GGG......With me they shared the minority view.

In their case I think Murray being British was the overriding factor...In mine it was the fact I'm not particularly fond of that part of the world.. ...

Me I want Fury to win because I think the Klits.... Gentleman that they are...... have been bad for Boxing and have taken the blue riband division away from the mainstream..

Just wondering if anybody is supporting Fury because he is a Brit ?? Or doesn't it matter ??

Yes or no it's fairplay..

I like him Truss and yes most of the time I support the home fighter.

I think wlad has had his time and Heavyweight boxing needs new blood to move it forward.

I'm wanting Wlad in this one. Although Wlad is far from the face of boxing, a loud heavyweight champ will certainly be the man that represents the sport.
I personally don't wish that to happen.

Wlad all the way.

It's all fairplay......

My opinion someone loud who can get people interested in the sport is better than some boring plodder hidden away in Germany....

I can understand how Fury can irritate though..

I want him to win because I find him amusing. Not always and don't agree with everything he says, but I just find him amusing.

I would much rather a Fury win, although like Wilder I dont think he will be any kind of great champion and could easily wind up losing it shortly after. Fury drifts in and out of conditioning and mentally doesnt look to have the long term focus to churn out consistent perfromances. He is entertaining though, in and out of the ring.

We have been here before a few years back with David Haye who gave it all the big build up with his antics but ended up as a damp squib and a bit of a chancer. Fury has set the stage for himself now so its him now, win or lose, to back it up. He has me sold that even if he goes out, he will go out with a bang. But then Haye had me convinced for a while that he was going to be the man take over the heavyweight division instead of the dampest of squibs. I really hope Fury gives at real go.

I hope Fury wins but can't see it, not particularly a Fury fan, but I've never bought into either of the Klitschko's, so would love to see an upset.

While the aftermath of Fury winning would no doubt be entertaining, I simply can't hope he wins, Brit or otherwise. He's a big lump but he's pretty useless and would be a terrible champ as far as being a quality fighter.

I'm actually interested to see what his tactics will be. I can't see him being intimidated at all by Wlad, but I don't see him having the skill to do anything. A lucky punch maybe, but not outboxing him. I predict a horrible scrappy affair with Wlad stopping him late on.

I can't help but think that Fury is in for a rude awakening. He has not fought anyone of Wlad's standard. Could be a first round blow out. He is Richard Dunn to Wlad's Ali in this fight.

Don't understand how Klitshcko can be called a hitting plodder hidden away in Germany when he has been unbeaten in 11 years owns nearly every belt and has knocked out nearly every contenter.

He is athletic with great boxing ability and pinches hard....he sells out arenas of over 50 THOUSAND and is huge in Europe.

Not too sure what the fuss is about.

If he fought the same way but was American selling out 15k MSG or whatever, would we be saying the same thing?

End of the day it's up to the heavyweight to up their game train harder and find a way to beat the champ.

That's it.

Is saying he sells out 50,000 arenas in Germany meant to be rebuttal to me saying he's hidden away in Germany....If it is it's not great...

11 years of stiffs means diddly. ..Brewster and Sanders were decent though..

Jack Callaghan was 31-0 when he got squashed off Matt Hilton...So what..

I dont think Klitschko is a great heavyweight but he is an international one in this day and age. His fanbase is huge, his fights are broadcast in numerous countries and the viewership is high. If by hidden away in Germany that means not popular in the U.S then I guess so, although he doesnt have much reason to fight outside Europe when he sells so well there.

I think the future of the heavyweight, and the heaview weight classes is going to lie outside of the U.S for the forseeable future. The U.S is no longer producing the same quality of heavyweight as in the past becuase the sport has become marginalised and all the potential athletes are going into different sports there.

Hopefully the next great heavyweight is not too far away but I doubt the next one will be from the U.S. A heavyweight version of Golovkin or Kovalev maybe.

United States is the home of Boxing...

All the big names go there.....Most are welcome..

The Klitschkos don't transcend....Most people have heard of Lewis...How many have heard of Wlad..

Huge fan base I don't think so..

First time in my life i want Grabamir to win, Fury is a classless British version of Butterbean, but without the chin or punch. I hope it goes a few rounds so Fury can get a bit of a hiding, sadly i cant see him lasting beyond a couple of rounds i expect Fury to be sparko first half decent punch Wlad lands. Getting up when cruiserweights and light punchers knock you down is very different to when a puncher like Wlad stick one on you.

It was a helluva swing by Cunningham.

Not sure Fury's chin is as bad as people think.

It hasnt been the home of heavyweight boxing for nearly a decade now. And probably wont be again until it produces a legitimate champion. The talent dried up, and with it the interest. Unless there are big steps taken to re-invest in boxing there, the best athletes will follow different sport paths and boxing will get the dregs.

The German boxing model is also the best in the world now. Klitschko fights are broadcast on regular tv and beamed all over the world. Boxing in general is enjoying a big upsurge there and its very fan friendly. In the U.S the model is rotten. The ppv culture hammers fans for 50 or 60 dollars a pop and its all driven by short term greed. Its going to go that way in the U.K too if the Matchroom/Sky partnership keeps a stranglehold. It will be ppv for a couple of local lads squaring off for the WBA intercontinental title on an unmissable bill topped by Anthony Joshua fighting the guy who called him names in school. I predict the step introduced by Matchroom will be to start tiering ppv events. 15 quid gets you two local Leeds lads for the British title but if you want a big world title fight the price will be upped to 20 or 30 quid.

Its not just the powder puff puncher Cruiser Cunningham knocking him down its the even lighter punching Neven Pajkić who could not knock the skin of a rice pudding but managed to inflicted a heavy knockdown on Fury that points to the obvious weakness in Furys Mandible region.

It will always be the home of Boxing. ...

All the top media outlets and money is there......Why guys like GGG go there to become stars.....Wlad has already been shipped out..

As for Cunningham like I said a wild swing landed on the button....Get caught in the right place anyone can go...Need more proof than that for me..

But you could be right..Time will tell.

I'd prefer fury to win, not based on nationality though. Wlad brings a benchmark for the division, sadly one only his brother has been able to reach, but for me he brings little else.

How have the Klitshkos been bad for boxing? Just because they aren't American and don't go round causing mayhem like some of the previous champions and spouting trash talk before every fight. I've got a lot of respect for Wlad and expect and hope he makes short work of that loud mouthed clown from Manchester.

That was no wild swing by Cunningham, it was a well executed right hand but there's no getting away from the fact the guy doesn't punch hard.

Fury is a sloppy, unconditioned, chinny embarrassment to the sport who would be less than a journeyman if not for his size.

Will be happy to see Wlad put him into the retirement he hopefully follows through in granting us.

I'd like Fury to win but then I pull for everyone against Wlad.

Fury's Britishness may be questionable (doesn't he identify more with being Irish?) but we shouldn't underestimate how rare this opportunity is: these are the only Brits I can think of who have challenged for the full heavyweight championship since '66.

Cooper, London, Dunn & Bugner (was Aussie Joe a Brit?) vs Ali
Bruno vs Tyson
Lewis vs Rahman (he also unified with Holyfield)

Have I missed anyone?

I'm indifferent on this one.

Think Wlad is a great champion for the sport. Clever, dominant and has beaten everybody put in front of him, most fairly easily.

Find Fury funny at times and a complete dick at others. On one hand Fury is a character who could make it interesting but on the other he can turn people away from the sport due to his views.

In a way I think the greatest shame is that a fighter like Wlad isn't an absolute hero as he comes across as intelligent and a gentleman yet we want someone more 'interesting' to be champion.

Would never cheer Fury on because he is a Brit, prefer to judge people as people rather than where in the world they were pushed from a vagina.

Morning all from the Sunny South,

Normally I want any British fighter to win but on this occasion want Wlad to win, whilst everyone has some pretty good points (and I hate to agree but think Truss is right that the big scene is still Yankee land) think it would do more harm than good to have Fury win the belt and then get schmoosed straight away or do a Wilder and defend it again'st nobodies. Think it's going to do the sport better to wait it out until a genuine challenger comes along

Derbymanc wrote:Morning all from the Sunny South,

Normally I want any British fighter to win but on this occasion want Wlad to win, whilst everyone has some pretty good points (and I hate to agree but think Truss is right that the big scene is still Yankee land) think it would do more harm than good to have Fury win the belt and then get schmoosed straight away or do a Wilder and defend it again'st nobodies. Think it's going to do the sport better to wait it out until a genuine challenger comes along

I think we all expect Joshua to mop everything up. Fury winning would probably expedite that.

Morning Derby!

Whilst I think Joshua could be the man, i'm loathe to start shouting it just yet as I thought Mr Price would be a force to be reckoned with until TT 1 and 2.

And to be honest i'd rather Joshua beat Wlad to get the title rather than a stopgap.

(Morning Adam,)

To be the man, you have to beat the man.

It would be good for someon to take Wlad's scalp and become number 1.

I would like to see Fury win but I'm not sure if it is nationality or not? I guess it partly is but as I've said before, fighting on Chanel 5 has meant I've been able to follow him for free and invest time into watching his career, then seeing how he has changed/improved his style to beat opponents convincingly without the 'scary' moments thrown in have to be applauded... However, that same style is less fun and exhilarating to watch and at times I've really hated that new flicky jab he uses to control his opponents. He still doesn't look slick or coordinated either. If it's the same Fury as we've seen before then Wlad really should find a lot of openings and clumsy mistakes to capitalise on from Fury as that Tyson jab only has a 2 inch advantage over Wlads own crisp and quick ramrod jab.

The real issue I have with jumping on the Fury train is that he talks about serious time out after the fight even if he wins, not knowing how long he'll carry on before he retires beyond Wlad. Fury said he's made enough money and wants to live off the land in a caravan again, ridding himself of bills and direct debits so it feels a bit like Haye all over again in that respect with the old 'I'm going to beat the Klits and then quit boxing by age 30 and follow my dreams' plan. At his age he should be thinking about a long reign and fighting the best around for years to come. It may well be empty words and thoughts but they don't inspire me.

Tyson Fury quotes...

Before Chisora 1 - "I'd fight for the British title for free Derek..It's about the history of the game not money"

Before Haye - "I'm not interested in titles I'm only in this game to make money"........

Wouldn't take anything he says seriously mate.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Tyson Fury quotes...

Before Chisora 1 - "I'd fight for the British title for free Derek..It's about the history of the game not money"

Before Haye - "I'm not interested in titles I'm only in this game to make money"........

Wouldn't take anything he says seriously mate.

I don't really. I know a lot of the game is psychological and he's probably taking pressure of himself by playing it all down.

Hi All,

I think Fury in a way is a breath of fresh air when he speaks as he seems to literally say whatever is on his mind. Too many stars are either too sanitised (Klitschko and GGG) or trying too hard to be like Mayweather (Broner etc.). Fury is a boxer and speaks his mind. Now to be fair if he didn't box I'm not sure what he would have amounted to. I would like to see him get knocked out even though he's British as to have someone as unskilled (he really doesn't look like a pugilist - I am referring to his physique) representing the pinnacle of the sport would be a real tragedy

You make a good point.............Fury is not the ideal candidate to end the Klit era.....

But I do think Boxing needs closure...

We need closure from Tyson Fury, so lets hope Wlad decides to be spiteful for a change and leaves him face down ala Pacquiao/Hatton.

Have no doubt If Fury wins Joshua will be expedited.....

If not It'll be Josh v chump until Wlad leaves the party...

Bet Whyte doesn't last more than two...

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Have no doubt If Fury wins Joshua will be expedited.....

If not It'll be Josh v chump until Wlad leaves the party...

Bet Whyte doesn't last more than two...

I have a feeling that after the fight everyone that hoped for a competitive match will know they should have seen the very early KO coming.

Whytes only hope is that Joshua has flashbacks.

He might last 3 rounds.

AdamT wrote:He might last 3 rounds.

Depends. If Whytes sloppy showing against Minto was really down to a shoulder issue then maybe, otherwise he's very open and will get tagged very early.

Whoever does end up inheriting the heavyweight crown (let's be honest I'm not 100% convinced it would happen in the ring) needs to at least have either the meanness of Tyson or at least some discernible skills.

I know nothing about Whyte and I hope he at least gives Joshua a decent fight. I'm assuming this will be Whyte's biggest pay day since turning pro?

What we really need is a 230 pounder who is aesthetic..technically adept... to clean up and encourage other guys of a similar build that they have a future in the sport....

Till then Joshua will do..

I always back the British fighter, but I simply cannot warm to Fury because I think he's rubbish and a loud-mouthed twonk. I think he has as much chance of winning against Wlad as I would. Even if I had a bat.

I'm Welsh not British but hope Fury wins even if cheering on an Englishman is a taking things a bit too far

That being said I always cheer on Amir Khan and is as English as you get

Lets be fair Fury's as daft as a brush, the buildup to the fight will be entertaining, the sober faced Wlad and Tyson giving it large trying to wind him up, but the thing is Fury actually thinks he can win this.

One thing I can't see is Fury feeling intimidated, don't think its in him.

I think fury is smarter than most people think. He's admitted amongst other wildly varying comments that he might get sparked in this. Deep down I suspect he thinks that's likely and will be cagey as hell come fight night. He could get blown out early or he might turn in a haye stinkathon.

But to answer the original question, boxing is an individual
Sport not a team one. In individual sports I usually support the Brit, but if I particularly dislike them, or particularly like the opponent I do make exceptions.

No need to here. I like fury, and his melon head-butting jack Nicholson loony tune act. I hope he wins. I think it's highly unlikely, but I hope he does.

It would be effing hilarious on here afterwards.

Fury is so unprendictable, I have no idea what he actually thinks. I suspect at at a base level he understands the value of publicity and a lot of what he says goes toward that. He does have a knack of appearing pretting genuine irrespective of what he says or how outrageous it is. If he is smart, he will know that after talking a big game that if he turns in a Haye style stinker it will wreck his career. Even if he loses but goes out with a bang he will still have be able to regroup. If he pulls a David Haye then thats it.

I thought his dismantling of Haye before their proposed fight was brilliant. He ripped him apart over the Klitschko fight. If hes puts in a similar non performance then his credibility will be gone. Better to get knocked out in the first round.

I understand where you're coming from catchy, but i don't think haye went in intending to stink the place out, his game plan wasn't working and he didn't have a plan b.. or wasn't prepared to try it.  I think a lot of klitschko opponents think previous opponents have just turned up to make up the numbers... then get in the ring and find the job a little harder than anticipated.

Fury is up against a better athlete, a better boxer and a harder puncher. I think if he's not unconscious he'll end up in his shell, irrespective of whether that's his intention. He's proved himself game against much lesser opposition so maybe he'll keep having a go, i just think he'll find he has nothing significant to have a go with.

I don't get this genuine hostility he provokes in some people, and his boxing skills look much improved to me of late. I hope he has a real go and comes out with some credit... though he'll never get it from some on here whatever happens.

Said when the fight was originally postponed, that a 40-year old man coming back from an injury layoff is probably what Fury needs. He needs to really hope Wlad has aged overnigh because he isnt touching even the Wlad that fought jennings

Last sentence about sums it up for me milky. Can't for the life of me make an argument for the big lump winning but just hope he gives it a proper go and if it is going against him goes out on his shield rather than in his shell. However the more I think about it the more I wonder if we need to stop holding this against his opponents and perhaps praise Wlad a little more. Is remarkable how many fighters seem to throw the proverbial towel in against him after four or five rounds. Stands to reason they can't all decide to take the money and run. Must be to some extent how hard it is to actually execute what you intend to do once you're in there against Wlad.