Will Wlad Use the Rematch Clause or Retire??

Wlad made noises after the result last night of taking an immediate rematch with Fury - but it kind of reminded me of Lennox after his fight with Vitali when he was asked about a rematch - the blood was pumping, the adrenaline was still high and he said something along the lines of "Sure and next time I'll bust up the other side of his face!" Of course, we know what actually happened, and also Wlad is not Lennox.

However, once the smoke has cleared a bit, will Wlad bother? He's 39 going on 40 and has millions in the bank plus a Hollywood girlfriend and young baby. Will he really want to get up for those long runs every morning now? His "safety first impenetrable bubble" has been well and truly burst. However, he might want to retire on a win.

My opinion? He'll hang them up.

I think he will want it.

I think his brother will shame him into rematching. Wlad won't want to retire on that performance either.

Tactically poor last night however he's still a quality heavyweight and is easily good enough to beat anyone else in the division. Reverting to the present Steward tactics would help in a rematch.

Don't think his brother will do any such thing.........He'll be there to console Wlad, cheer him up and rightly tell him that he's got a great chance of winning a rematch...

Like Holmes - Spinks 2 he'll just have to up his workrate and make Fury work more than he wants...

Be crazy not to take the return...Not like he was outclassed..

I picked Wlad this time and I'd probably pick him in a return..

I'd say that given how it went I doubt he'd do any worse in a rematch. It could well go the same way but if he solved the puzzle second time round I'd give him credit.

He'll take it. Fury may never box to that level again (he's so erratic - he could get better, retire or throw it all away at the dinner table).

It felt like a high wire act from Fury. Wlad will believe he can do a little more next time.

I actually think a rematch will be a better fight

Wlad Will realize he needs to fight earlier and land more than 50 odd punches.

Don't know who I back In a rematch
will make a prediction close to the fight.

Wlad cant be that bad again right.......surely not

But I can see a rematch, fury didn't really worry him at all, was just super awkward and wlad never got to into it and was outboxed. Wlad is still the power puncher and will have to adapt his apporach whereas think fury will do the same thing. Only takes a couple bombs for fury to be on the deck, but can he land enough thats the question.

I think Wlad will take it and still think he should be the favourite.

Peter Fury is a crafty old sod. He could get another game plan for Tyson.

If I were Tyson Fury, I would work a fair bit on strength between fights. I know he can deadlift a good weight, but a wee bit of extra upper body work will help him maybe punch a bit harder and really push back opponents when required.

If he gains a bit of power and retains his speed, he could be a very dangerous fighter.

Klitschko is as limited as it gets. He will need to rely Fury fighting a less disciplined fight to give him the openings.

He's just lost to Tyson Fury. Fury was good but that's shaming for the brothers, no two ways about it. Watch the Klitscho film. Tells you a lot about their relationship.

He is also basically 40 years old and has fought with a similar style the last decade.

He didn't like the bigger man being able to move around so freely. He couldn't hug and lay on Tyson, trying to tire him out and frustrate him

Also everyone keeps mentioning the lack of a right hand

Everyone knows Wlad and his brother also likes to get the jab working early. He never really got to dictate with the jab, even when he was holding the centre of the ring.

Fury took his big weapon off him and that was his jab. Wlad hasn't really the speed or confidence to throw right hand leads at his bigger awkward opponent.

Tyson fought to a good game plan. Wasn't a pretty watch and he is definitely not the next Ali, but credit to him for going out there and getting the job done.

No matter what happens next, the big man has my respect for a fantastic win.

He may do as he will be very hurt by that loss, But the bottom line is Fury is going to get better while WK is getting older. And while Fury was brilliant, WK is starting to age and it has shown in the last couple fights, Fury will also have more experience and I would imagine Hennessey will make them come to the UK which would be a massive fight.

So I would go for another Fury win.

WK should retire, he has a great legacy for many years and lost the title at 39. No shame in retiring after that.

For me Wlad last night looked like someone who could think of any number of places he would rather have been. Yes he is cautious by nature but he was avoiding Fury's flicks and feints like they were bombs. After round 7/8 IMO he needed to forget the tactics bite down on his gumshield, dip at the knees, throw bombs and simply fight.

I think he'll either retire (shot fighters do not want to pull the trigger) or go after Fury in the rematch and make it a 6 round fight either way.

Maybe however Fury is alot better and/or hits alot harder than I thought, either way congratulations to him, not pretty but pretty effective.

tunes666 wrote:He may do as he will be very hurt by that loss, But the bottom line is Fury is going to get better while WK is getting older. And while Fury was brilliant, WK is starting to age and it has shown in the last couple fights, Fury will also have more experience and I would imagine Hennessey will make them come to the UK which would be a massive fight.

So I would go for another Fury win.

WK should retire, he has a great legacy for many years and lost the title at 39. No shame in retiring after that.

Yes in 3 months time Fury will be fighting like Sugar Ray Leonard and Wlad will be senile...

What garbage

I'd like to see Hatton and Nassem fight at heavy.

AdamT wrote:

If I were Tyson Fury, I would work a fair bit on strength between fights.

I'm sure I heard Fury say to his corner after the first round "he's week".

Maybe Fury is naturally strong.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

tunes666 wrote:He may do as he will be very hurt by that loss, But the bottom line is Fury is going to get better while WK is getting older. And while Fury was brilliant, WK is starting to age and it has shown in the last couple fights, Fury will also have more experience and I would imagine Hennessey will make them come to the UK which would be a massive fight.

So I would go for another Fury win.

WK should retire, he has a great legacy for many years and lost the title at 39. No shame in retiring after that.

Yes in 3 months time Fury will be fighting like Sugar Ray Leonard and Wlad will be senile...

What garbage

Nope, now he is champ he will have even more confidence, and he will have WK after a couple new training caps as he will have the right to take a voluntary defence first, and thus will only improve, he most certainly does not need to improve as much as you said to pose a bigger threat to WK.

WK however will not gain confidence, will not improve and will not make the most of another year before the fight would take place.

It's a fair point and if I was Fury I would bold off for as long as I can. Maybe he should pull the injury card for a change if needs be. Really mess with Wlads head anyway he can.

Maybe Fury fought his best fight..

Maybe Wlad was complacent..

Spinks by your reckoning should have beaten Holmes easier second time around...

He didn't because Holmes was more motivated and learned from the first fight..

Too many variables mate

tunes666 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

tunes666 wrote:He may do as he will be very hurt by that loss, But the bottom line is Fury is going to get better while WK is getting older. And while Fury was brilliant, WK is starting to age and it has shown in the last couple fights, Fury will also have more experience and I would imagine Hennessey will make them come to the UK which would be a massive fight.

So I would go for another Fury win.

WK should retire, he has a great legacy for many years and lost the title at 39. No shame in retiring after that.

Yes in 3 months time Fury will be fighting like Sugar Ray Leonard and Wlad will be senile...

What garbage

Nope, now he is champ he will have even more confidence, and he will have WK after a couple new training caps as he will have the right to take a voluntary defence first, and thus will only improve, he most certainly does not need to improve as much as you said to pose a bigger threat to WK.

WK however will not gain confidence, will not improve and will not make the most of another year before the fight would take place.

If there was a rematch clause it usually stipulates it has to be immediate.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:

tunes666 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

tunes666 wrote:He may do as he will be very hurt by that loss, But the bottom line is Fury is going to get better while WK is getting older. And while Fury was brilliant, WK is starting to age and it has shown in the last couple fights, Fury will also have more experience and I would imagine Hennessey will make them come to the UK which would be a massive fight.

So I would go for another Fury win.

WK should retire, he has a great legacy for many years and lost the title at 39. No shame in retiring after that.

Yes in 3 months time Fury will be fighting like Sugar Ray Leonard and Wlad will be senile...

What garbage

Nope, now he is champ he will have even more confidence, and he will have WK after a couple new training caps as he will have the right to take a voluntary defence first, and thus will only improve, he most certainly does not need to improve as much as you said to pose a bigger threat to WK.

WK however will not gain confidence, will not improve and will not make the most of another year before the fight would take place.

If there was a rematch clause it usually stipulates it has to be immediate.

That's not what Fury Implied..

Fury did an interview with Sky yesterday morning and said he's pretty sure he can have a mandatory first which he'd like in the UK and then a rematch with Wlad wherever.

Must say he came across really really well and seemed a decent bloke, I know some like his antics but i'd rather see more of that than the nutcase we get.

He also stated we only saw him at about 65 percent on the night so would happily watch a rematch to see how true that is.

Well played to him, not a lot of people gave him any chance at all and it seems like it really meant a lot to win them belts and be the no.1 rather than grab a portion and milk it.

Vit must've been screaming sat night, he would have blown clean through Fury (with all due respect) as he had no fear and a granite chin - Wlad neither. Not sure he's got it in him to take a rematch - he lost because of who he is, that'll not change.

3fingers wrote:

AdamT wrote:

If I were Tyson Fury, I would work a fair bit on strength between fights.

I'm sure I heard Fury say to his corner after the first round "he's week".

Maybe Fury is naturally strong.

Klitschko is extremely pumped up - he carries a lot of muscle. Fury trains for stamina by the look of him - he's probably the naturally stronger man.

Derbymanc wrote:Fury did an interview with Sky yesterday morning and said he's pretty sure he can have a mandatory first which he'd like in the UK and then a rematch with Wlad wherever.

Must say he came across really really well and seemed a decent bloke, I know some like his antics but i'd rather see more of that than the nutcase we get.

He also stated we only saw him at about 65 percent on the night so would happily watch a rematch to see how true that is.

Well played to him, not a lot of people gave him any chance at all and it seems like it really meant a lot to win them belts and be the no.1 rather than grab a portion and milk it.

He is a decent fella (crazy homophobic ramblings aside). It's an absolutely incredible story when you think about it. A big, gutsy kid training with his uncles and father (both ex-cons) in the wilderness. Living in caravans. Upsets one of the most programmed heavyweights in history on his home patch - an arena that includes an art exhibition (mainly Klitschko paintings) and fine dining. And he does it based - mainly - on incredible self-belief.

He may lose the rematch but he's in the history books now. Britain's third ever heavyweight king. What a sport.

TopHat24/7 wrote:Vit must've been screaming sat night, he would have blown clean through Fury (with all due respect) as he had no fear and a granite chin - Wlad neither.  Not sure he's got it in him to take a rematch - he lost because of who he is, that'll not change.

Vitali seemed fairly level headed in interviews post fight. Basically

- Definitely taking a rematch
- Tyson was slightly better
- Wlad was underprepared
- Wlad should have fought inside more
- Still wants Lewis rematch

kingraf wrote:- Still wants Lewis rematch

Ha. Crazy old buzzard.

As for the clause itself. I'd expect Wlad to take it. Why not? Fury hardly gave a Holmes-Ali beating. the whole fight fury landed maybe a dozen clean. then again fury reckons he fought at 60-65% that fight. Might be right because his punch accuracy was pretty average

Wlad is going to have to come up with a gameplan different to the one he's built his entire career and reputation on in order to beat Fury. He just had no clue on Saturday and couldn't work the big 'spider' out.

Unless the money is really good (e.g. 50:50 or better incl. PPV receipts) for a UK fight he may not want to take the risk. He look slow, but in otherwise as good a shape as for any of his fights, so what's going to change??

Wlad looked incredibly gunshy...

Not sure any coach can do a lot with a fighter who is scared of getting hit...

Hmmm. Think I got that one wrong!