Cardiff Blues Season Thread 3 - Danny Wilson Appointed Head Coach

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Navidi is better in other positions in my opinion. Williams is an out and out 8. Good signing.

[The Great Aukster]

Well done to Cardiff Blues - fully deserved the win. Patchell was exceptional.

[Cardiff Dave]

Yay, Cardiff found their mojo I reckon.
Losing until 8mins to go. Huge win I think and should give those players a big confidence boost.
Was Patchell more effective at OH or FB? On the hoof at full tilt he's difficult to stop. Like a young Jamie Roberts.

[PhilBB]

CCS was about money too wasn't it?
Also, what's the whole story regarding Hammett leaving?

The Landfill was about a property deal. Top players weren't replaced thanks to the necessary salary cap because of Roger's intransigence.

Whole story? Let's just say that the headline is that he needed to return home to be with an ill relative.

[VinceWLB]

That was a cracking results for the Blues. When they click they are a very difficult team to beat.

The big question is how long will Filise continue to play? He seems to be scrummaging better than ever and has been constantly outplaying his much vaunted team mate Ma'afu. Amazing player and great job done by Danny Wilson at the scrum.

[Luckless Pedestrian]

Losing until 8mins to go.

The Dragons are usually winning with 8 minutes to go.

[wales606]

Was Patchell more effective at OH or FB? On the hoof at full tilt he's difficult to stop. Like a young Jamie Roberts.

Think he does better attacking the line from FB.

Will be interesting to see if he makes the XV when Anscombe is back, Fish is playing incredibly well and Patchell will be off west soon.

[Coleman]

I've just read on the Beeb that Summerhill has scored five tries in eight games. I'll be honest i've not really been keeping an eye on him during the games but he seems to be in decent form. Is he someone that is under rated? Will have to pay more attention to his game vs Glasgow should he make the team.

[Cardiff Dave]

CCS was about money too wasn't it?
Also, what's the whole story regarding Hammett leaving?

The Landfill was about a property deal. Top players weren't replaced thanks to the necessary salary cap because of Roger's intransigence.

Whole story? Let's just say that the headline is that he needed to return home to be with an ill relative.

Aye and a predicted total disaster that cost the club £££s, and a few supporters no doubt. Can't blame everything on Dodger is all i'm saying.
Is the LV returning next season? Hope to reach the knockout stages this time.

[Cardiff Dave]

Was Patchell more effective at OH or FB? On the hoof at full tilt he's difficult to stop. Like a young Jamie Roberts.

Think he does better attacking the line from FB.

Will be interesting to see if he makes the XV when Anscombe is back, Fish is playing incredibly well and Patchell will be off west soon.

Just imagine ex FB Jamie Roberts doing that for Wales? That would worry the SH lot I reckon.

[Cardiff Dave]

Love the SdR match ticket gag.
Cardiff confetti IIRC.

[Cardiff Dave]

Losing until 8mins to go.

The Dragons are usually winning with 8 minutes to go.

The Drags clearly need more puff and magic from somewhere.

[PhilBB]

I've just read on the Beeb that Summerhill has scored five tries in eight games. I'll be honest i've not really been keeping an eye on him during the games but he seems to be in decent form. Is he someone that is under rated? Will have to pay more attention to his game vs Glasgow should he make the team.

Scoring tries is not a measure of competency. He ran in one on Sunday from very close in.

[PhilBB]

Love the SdR match ticket gag.
Cardiff confetti IIRC.

It was too obvious to miss.

[Cardiff Dave]

I've just read on the Beeb that Summerhill has scored five tries in eight games. I'll be honest i've not really been keeping an eye on him during the games but he seems to be in decent form. Is he someone that is under rated? Will have to pay more attention to his game vs Glasgow should he make the team.

Scoring tries is not a measure of competency. He ran in one on Sunday from very close in.

From 5 yards out and unopposed too. Brilliant play.

[Cardiff Dave]

Love the SdR match ticket gag.
Cardiff confetti IIRC.

It was too obvious to miss.

Threw half a dozen or so in a CCS bin once, when walking up. Also remember receiving a ticket voucher in the post. Think it was for a Drags game. Had to join a queue outside the stadium to swap it for a proper ticket IIRC. All very weird.

[Cardiff Dave]

Not shifting to CCS again are they?
I'm getting Deja vu all over again. Nurse?!?!

“This is purely a rugby decision."

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/cardiff-blues-take-over-cardiff-10987053#ICID=sharebar_twitter

[True Raven]

My favourite part of that is where he mentions they have to take over the rfc as they cant have them languishing near the bottom of the table........has he not seen his beloved blues recently???

[Cardiff Dave]

My favourite part of that is where he mentions they have to take over the rfc as they cant have them languishing near the bottom of the table........has he not seen his beloved blues recently???

Big Chief speak with forked tongue.

[Cardiff Dave]

Snigger....and snigger again.
Property deal....cough. Splutter. Laugh. Cry.
Hope British made steel will be used to construct the new Arms Park. Nurse?!?!

"Thomas rejected any suggestion that the changes are linked in any way to the ongoing negotiations between Cardiff RFC Ltd and the Athletic Club over agreeing a long-term lease for the Arms Park, which would enable the Blues to go ahead with a major ground and commercial redevelopment."

[Cardiff Dave]

Somebody hit me with a comedy frying pan FFS. Or a real one. Whatever....

"Thomas said: “We have had a look at the Cardiff Blues situation and for the last few years we have been doomed with wrong coaches in our set-up and as a result we have languished in the bottom half of the table."

[Cardiff Dave]

CCS was about money too wasn't it?
Also, what's the whole story regarding Hammett leaving?

The Landfill was about a property deal. Top players weren't replaced thanks to the necessary salary cap because of Roger's intransigence.

Whole story? Let's just say that the headline is that he needed to return home to be with an ill relative.

Back on again by the sound of things, as if it ever went away.

[Cardiff Dave]

Taking over Ponty next no doubt.
Another fail from the infamous Fail....

"Cardiff Blues to take over Cardiff RFC"

[Cardiff Dave]

"Cardiff RFC is languishing towards the bottom of the table. This is unacceptable to the company."

FUBAR.

[Coleman]

Steve Shingler confirmed. Who else have we been linked with? Kirby Myhill and Snyman was it?

[ScarletSpiderman]

Steve Shingler confirmed. Who else have we been linked with? Kirby Myhill and Snyman was it?

I have heard that Earle has passed a medical (well had passed a medical), but the deal is not completed. To be honest you would be taking a big gamble signing him IMO. Up until this season he has been a real work horse, and almost superhuman with his lack of injuries. However this season he has been pretty much crocked non-stop. If he can get over the injury issues over the summer you will have a decent lock on your hands, if not you will be luck to see him play.

I prey Myhill doesn't go, but with Ken, and Emyr ahead of him, and with Elias behind, it makes perfect sense. It should be interesting to see who starts at hooker next season.

As for Steve Shingler, is a shame to see him go. Probably in hindsight, even though I really rate him as a player, one of the worst signings the Scarlets have made. When we announced his signing it was the catalyst in Owen Williams making his mind up to cross the bridge (rather than slide further down the pecking order). This season we were hoping Steve would kick on, but he seemed to have some issues with form (think the uncertainty of his future may have played a part). It will be interesting to see where he plays for the Blues. I can't see him ousting Gats love child at fly half, or Nipper at fullback. Possibly he could slot into the centre, but most likely he is going to bench warm as a utility back.

[Coleman]

Sorry, Earle it is. If what you're saying is right we'd better be careful. We need a second row more than anything else if i'm honest. Would hate to be picking up a injury nightmare.

I have no idea what you've got in the water down there but you're churning out some very promising hookers. It does seem that he's been forced to move.

Shingler could do well for us at 12. Allen either seems to be with Wales or hurt (New Jamie Roberts indeed). He and Lee-Lo could work together in the centre. I do worry that he will suffer from Hook Syndrome and be seen as too good not to have on the bench. Time will tell.

[PhilBB]

Back on again by the sound of things, as if it ever went away.

Nah.

[Cardiff Dave]

Back on again by the sound of things, as if it ever went away.

Nah.

What's happening with CAP then as I was under the impression that the whole site was going to be developed? CAC not playing ball? Also what are your thoughts with regards to Uncle Pete's comments, reading between the lines of course?

[Guest]

Back on again by the sound of things, as if it ever went away.

Nah.

What's happening with CAP then as I was under the impression that the whole site was going to be developed? CAC not playing ball? Also what are your thoughts with regards to Uncle Pete's comments, reading between the lines of course?

Sounds like a mess to me Dave.

[Cardiff Dave]

Back on again by the sound of things, as if it ever went away.

Nah.

What's happening with CAP then as I was under the impression that the whole site was going to be developed? CAC not playing ball? Also what are your thoughts with regards to Uncle Pete's comments, reading between the lines of course?

Sounds like a mess to me Dave.

Or rather the latest in the long running Cardiff rugby soap. Must be up to Series 22, Episode 14 by now.
Confused?

[Guest]

Back on again by the sound of things, as if it ever went away.

Nah.

What's happening with CAP then as I was under the impression that the whole site was going to be developed? CAC not playing ball? Also what are your thoughts with regards to Uncle Pete's comments, reading between the lines of course?

Sounds like a mess to me Dave.

Or rather the latest in the long running Cardiff rugby soap. Must be up to Series 22, Episode 14 by now.
Confused?

Very confused. The 'One True Club' not running their own club side but giving it to CAC to run on the side? WTF?! CAC renting their ground to you, losing their running of the club side, and now wranglings over redevelopment? Sounds like t-it for tat! Welcome to Welsh rugby!

[Cardiff Dave]

Back on again by the sound of things, as if it ever went away.

Nah.

What's happening with CAP then as I was under the impression that the whole site was going to be developed? CAC not playing ball? Also what are your thoughts with regards to Uncle Pete's comments, reading between the lines of course?

Sounds like a mess to me Dave.

Or rather the latest in the long running Cardiff rugby soap. Must be up to Series 22, Episode 14 by now.
Confused?

Very confused. The 'One True Club' not running their own club side but giving it to CAC to run on the side? WTF?! CAC renting their ground to you, losing their running of the club side, and now wranglings over redevelopment? Sounds like t-it for tat! Welcome to Welsh rugby!

Welcome to the mad, mad world of Cardiff rugby more like.

[mikey_dragon]

Wilson's first major blunder whilst in charge of the One True Club is signing Shingler - very poor player and a major step-down on Patchell. I can only hope you're planning on having Morgan cover 10 ahead of him.

[Coleman]

Taken two things from ScrumV this weekend.
1. We're linkes with Bradley. Where did that come from?
2. Craig Quinnell is funny as, and should be on more often.

[Cardiff Dave]

Craig Quinnell on ChumV was marvelous. Could do with someone like him in the Cardiff squad.

[Cardiff Dave]

Taken two things from ScrumV this weekend.
1. We're linkes with Bradley. Where did that come from?
2. Craig Quinnell is funny as, and should be on more often.

CQ said the Llanelli word when referring to the Scarlets and suggested Wales were playing rubbish rugby. That's his chances blown of being a regular on ChumV.

[Cardiff Dave]

Wilson's first major blunder whilst in charge of the One True Club is signing Shingler - very poor player and a major step-down on Patchell. I can only hope you're planning on having Morgan cover 10 ahead of him.

Intriguing comments from CQ this evening on ChumV.

[True Raven]

Taken two things from ScrumV this weekend.
1. We're linkes with Bradley. Where did that come from?
2. Craig Quinnell is funny as, and should be on more often.

According to Simon Thomas they want him on a NDC but can't afford the release fee wasps are asking

[Cardiff Dave]

Taken two things from ScrumV this weekend.
1. We're linkes with Bradley. Where did that come from?
2. Craig Quinnell is funny as, and should be on more often.

According to Simon Thomas they want him on a NDC but can't afford the release fee wasps are asking

Anyone know if Bradley wants to return to Cardiff?

[Cardiff Dave]

Like the "Blues" confusion on twitter. Bout time Cardiff shook off the Welsh monster.

[Cardiff Dave]

Encouraging words from Wilson today re younger players who need game time and those that deserve to wear the jersey.

[Cardiff Dave]

Regarding the supposed "clearout"; anyone going from today's squad, other than Patch?

Cardiff Blues:
Rhys Patchell, Blaine Scully, Aled Summerhill, Rey Lee-Lo, Dan Fish; 10 Jarrod Evans, Tomos Williams; Thomas Davies, Matthew Rees (capt), Salesi Ma'afu, Jarrad Hoeata, James Down, Josh Turnbull, Ellis Jenkins, Manoa Vosawai.

Replacements: Ethan Lewis, Corey Domachowski, Taufa'ao Filise, Macauley Cook, Josh Navidi, Lewis Jones, Garyn Smith, Harri Millard.

[Cardiff Dave]

BTW, who's this Russian stand off, that Ian Gough mentioned on S4C commentary today?

[Cardiff Dave]

Back on again by the sound of things, as if it ever went away.

Nah.

You should have TT's old job I reckon.

[Cardiff Dave]

Back on again by the sound of things, as if it ever went away.

Nah.

What's happening with CAP then as I was under the impression that the whole site was going to be developed? CAC not playing ball? Also what are your thoughts with regards to Uncle Pete's comments, reading between the lines of course?

Sounds like a mess to me Dave.

Or rather the latest in the long running Cardiff rugby soap. Must be up to Series 22, Episode 14 by now.
Confused?

Very confused. The 'One True Club' not running their own club side but giving it to CAC to run on the side? WTF?! CAC renting their ground to you, losing their running of the club side, and now wranglings over redevelopment? Sounds like t-it for tat! Welcome to Welsh rugby!

So too are BT, by the look of it.

[PhilBB]

What's happening with CAP then as I was under the impression that the whole site was going to be developed? CAC not playing ball? Also what are your thoughts with regards to Uncle Pete's comments, reading between the lines of course?

The lease will be sorted and it's a shame that it has only taken 13 years for Thomas to understand the blindingly obvious.

[PhilBB]

Back on again by the sound of things, as if it ever went away.

Nah.

You should have TT's old job I reckon.

I'd last about 34 minutes, working for that lot. And 32 of those would be finding a car parking spot.

[PhilBB]

Very confused. The 'One True Club' not running their own club side but giving it to CAC to run on the side? WTF?! CAC renting their ground to you, losing their running of the club side, and now wranglings over redevelopment? Sounds like t-it for tat! Welcome to Welsh rugby!

It's worse than that.

CAC had little to no control over player signings or coach signings.

Wilson also doesn't release players until normally a Thursday, meaning anybody dropped to play in the Rags had (maximum) one training session to learn all the calls, moves etc.

Hopefully from next season it will be run properly.

[Cardiff Dave]

What's happening with CAP then as I was under the impression that the whole site was going to be developed? CAC not playing ball? Also what are your thoughts with regards to Uncle Pete's comments, reading between the lines of course?

The lease will be sorted and it's a shame that it has only taken 13 years for Thomas to understand the blindingly obvious.

Aye and BTW, what became of CAC inviting bids with regards to selling CAP? Received 3 IIRC; from the WRU, Uncle Pete and A. Another. Did the place ever get evaluated to CAC's satisfaction?

[Cardiff Dave]

Back on again by the sound of things, as if it ever went away.

Nah.

You should have TT's old job I reckon.

I'd last about 34 minutes, working for that lot. And 32 of those would be finding a car parking spot.

"that lot"?
Thought everything was tickety-boo and moving in the proper right direction?
Anyway, you'd shewerly have ewer own spot and a Bloos car big enough to accommodate a massive clock, just in case it needed to be taken away for fixing.

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