6N 2016: England v Wales, 12 March

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ENGLAND v WALES
12 March 2016
KO: 16:00 GMT
Twickenham, London

Live on ITV, RTE, SC4, FR2, DMAX / BBC (H)

Referee: Craig Joubert (South Africa)
Touch judges: [tbc]
Television match official: [tbc]

A. Head to Head

119 Played 119
53 Won 54
12 Drawn 12
54 Lost 53
1,428 Points 1,371

B. Recent Form

26 September 2015: Twickenham, London
25 – 28 to Wales
2015 Rugby World Cup Pool A

6 February 2015: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
16 – 21 to England
2015 Six Nations

9 March 2014: Twickenham Stadium, London
29 – 18 to England
2014 Six Nations

16 March 2013: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
30 – 3 to Wales
2013 Six Nations

25 February 2012: Twickenham Stadium, London
12 – 19 to Wales
2012 Six Nations

13 August 2011: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
19 – 9 to Wales
2011 Rugby World Cup warm up test

6 August 2011: Twickenham, London
23 – 19 to England
2011 Rugby World Cup warm up test

C. Teams

ENGLAND

[tbc]

WALES

[tbc]

carpet baboon wrote:Is it just me or do Wales look tired

No just Poopie

yappysnap wrote:Btw Browns already beaten 5 defenders and made over 60m's

yep skinned North with ease yet the Cuthbert haters and North lovers seem to have just forgotten about that one.

majesticimperialman wrote:

RiscaGame wrote:Heard they've already erected the England triple crown podium at twickers?

Is the reason that the tripple crown trop-hy is at Twickers, is because both England and Wales are playing for it .

You are a gem. You even mentioned previously (when trying to be clever) about drawing against Ireland and how bad they were.

England very good at goog through the motions. Very good at a structured attacking play.

The moment it breaks down and the attack needs to go by instinct we struggle

Yeeeerrereeeeeeesss!!

Right NOW Wales are in the shít

bedfordwelsh wrote:

yappysnap wrote:Btw Browns already beaten 5 defenders and made over 60m's

yep skinned North with ease yet the Cuthbert haters and North lovers seem to have just forgotten about that one.

Maybe it's because north has scored two tries thi tournament compared to cuthbert nil and cuthbert is having a mare today

Excellent try.

Wales left for dead.

Don't ever tell Beshocked but I think he was right about Itoje...

Itoje awesome yet again

England HAD to take advantage of that possession.

Shambolic

Falling off tackles, no set-piece, no possession or territory.

Need big changes at halftime. Be tempted to bring on the bench early.

Wales look like they have never played together, getting nothing on the ground either.

yappysnap wrote:Don't ever tell Beshocked but I think he was right about Itoje...

Ha ha I was just thinking exactly the same

Ball in hand rewarded with a try!

Itoje having a stupendous match. England's line-out utterly glorious.

Wales lucky Itoje is no good in the lineout.

It won't last - but every point makes it a harder margin for Wales to overcome

Been a long time coming that.

Bedford, why you feel like you have to defend cuthbert so much is beyond me. It's indefensible how poor he is. At least north scores

Puts the Ireland performance in perspective anyway.

Itoje is awsome so far, loving the power

Shifty wrote:Right NOW Wales are in the shít

You mean we weren't before.

Hopefully a good stuffing may make Gatland realise that something needs to change be it style or coaches or players picked.

Total dominance from England. The English set piece completley on top as expected.

Did Wales not bother training together this week? They seem like strangers

If Wales can manage to get a try around now, it might make it interesting this neutral.

RiscaGame wrote:Been a long time coming that.

Bedford, why you feel like you have to defend cuthbert so much is beyond me. It's indefensible how poor he is. At least north scores

Risca,

Because he gets way more crap than North whose defence is as poor, before the Italy game last year Cuthbert had a better strike rate than North and yes North has scored two this year 1 he nearly ballsed up the other was down to utterly shocking Jock defence.

No one should be above criticism yet North seems to be

wales606 wrote:Shambolic

Falling off tackles, no set-piece, no possession or territory.

Need big changes at halftime. Be tempted to bring on the bench early.

Wales look like they have never played together, getting nothing on the ground either.

I don't think England will dominate like this for the entire game. But Wales really need a rocket up their back sides at half time and to somehow make it that far without conceding more points.

Itoje itoje itoje.........

Itoje man of the match - future England captain

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Total dominance from England. The English set piece completley on top as expected.

Wales have won two penalties from the scrum so that's not true

Beshocked really was right shout itoje . he's fecking everywhere

bedfordwelsh wrote:

RiscaGame wrote:Been a long time coming that.

Bedford, why you feel like you have to defend cuthbert so much is beyond me. It's indefensible how poor he is. At least north scores

Risca,

Because he gets way more crap than North whose defence is as poor, before the Italy game last year Cuthbert had a better strike rate than North and yes North has scored two this year 1 he nearly ballsed up the other was down to utterly shocking Jock defence.

No one should be above criticism yet North seems to be

But Risca is right. North has played very well in this tournament and unsurprisingly you've been very quiet.

Forwards presenting the ball loads better today

He's not getting much mention,. but Robshaw is just quietly getting on with his job, whilst his partner Haskell is being very physical as we expect.

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Total dominance from England. The English set piece completley on top as expected.

Well, so far, go good. But there is another whole half of Rugby to go and anything can be undone in the blink of an eye. Wales are a good team, despite the first half performance. Low profile, lads. Low profile.

To be fair, I don't think even Beshocked would have predicted this performance from Itoje.

doctor_grey wrote:

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Total dominance from England. The English set piece completley on top as expected.

Well, so far, go good.  But there is another whole half of Rugby to go and anything can be undone in the blink of an eye.  Wales are a good team, despite the first half performance.  Low profile, lads.  Low profile.  

Exactly...just need to look back 6 months to see that!

doctor_grey wrote:

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Total dominance from England. The English set piece completley on top as expected.

Well, so far, go good.  But there is another whole half of Rugby to go and anything can be undone in the blink of an eye.  Wales are a good team, despite the first half performance.  Low profile, lads.  Low profile.  

Agree Doc, not counting my chickens but that's a great half of rugby.

bedfordwelsh wrote:

Shifty wrote:Right NOW Wales are in the shít

You mean we weren't before.

Hopefully a good stuffing may make Gatland realise that something needs to change be it style or coaches or players picked.

No I expected Wales to be under the cosh early on, but England have kept it up for the entire first half, though lots of times Wales have been totally dominated in the first half and come back in the second. To me it looks like England are trying to put an 80 minute performance into 40 minutes, while Wales are in second gear, I think Wales will fight back in the last quarter.

Itoje is making it like England have 3 flankers on the pitch.

Wales look like they don't know what on earth they are trying to do.

Great half, but keep it going lads

Wrong kicking strategy again. NZ would kill us if we kicked to them like this.

If you're going to kick, then take position/touch, but kicking in this way is too contestable.

Play ball in hand with width and pace. These are perfect handling conditions, they're as good as it gets.

That said of course I am being exceptionally critical. In broad terms 16 to zip after 40 minutes is a tremendous result.

Best half of rugby England have played in some time.

Itoje - I doff my cap, sir.

Itoje has simply been immense, such a clever player.

I cant see a way back for Wales here, England are dominant in every aspect of the game and I feel the score flatters Wales somewhat at this stage.

Cuthbert for Wales, may make a few decent runs but is simply a liability in defence.

Farrell and Brown need to calm down here, both have had little niggly moments.

mikey_dragon wrote:

bedfordwelsh wrote:

RiscaGame wrote:Been a long time coming that.

Bedford, why you feel like you have to defend cuthbert so much is beyond me. It's indefensible how poor he is. At least north scores

Risca,

Because he gets way more crap than North whose defence is as poor, before the Italy game last year Cuthbert had a better strike rate than North and yes North has scored two this year 1 he nearly ballsed up the other was down to utterly shocking Jock defence.

No one should be above criticism yet North seems to be

But Risca is right. North has played very well in this tournament and unsurprisingly you've been very quiet.

This is first time I have actually been able to comment during a game Mikey as have been lucky to be at the rest but if you bother to read back post match I have congratulated North on his much improved performances yet that doesn't get away from the fact that people like yourself conveniently pass over things like North getting skinned by Brown.

Well it looks as if England will win, especially with their 16th man, but you won't get any complaints from me. If you go onto win them I hope you take the slam - the players and real fans deserve something to celebrate after a long wait. I can also assure you that my wifi is expected to be working very well in the next couple of weeks.

Good job Wales have backs options on the bench. Oh wait

The worst Welsh half since Fiji in 07? Putrid stuff. The scrum has been boobie for tat, but in every other area we have been absolutely destroyed.

wales606 wrote:Wales look like they don't know what on earth they are trying to do.

Chill out, were always rubbish in the first half. Always on the back foot. Wales play all their rugby in the last 30 minutes.
Edwards will give them a row, the boys will pull it together and we'll fight back. England can't really play much better than that, and Wales haven't even started playing yet.

Surprised how bad Wales are.....worst I've seen them play against us for a long time. Could have been more.

Itoje is having a stormer. Looking forward to the bench keeping the intensity up because Wales aren't dealing with it.

Some player in that Welsh team being badly shown up: Baldwin, Cuthbert.

England rightly ahead at HT, Gatland negative rugby being badly exposed.