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AUSTRALIA v ENGLAND
11 June 2016
20:00 AEST (UTC+10)
Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane

Live on [tbc]

Referee: Romain Poite (France)
Touch judges: [tbc]
Television match official: [tbc]

A. Head to Head

44 Played 44
25 Won 18
1 Drawn 1
18 Lost 25
940 Points 674

B. Recent Form

3 October 2015 - Twickenham, London: 13 – 33 to Australia

29 November 2014 - Twickenham, London: 26 – 17 to England

2 November 2013 - Twickenham, London: 20 – 13 to England

17 November 2012 - Twickenham, London: 14 – 20 to Australia

13 November 2010 - Twickenham, London: 35 – 18 to England

19 June 2010 - Telstra Stadium, Sydney: 20 – 21 to England

12 June 2010 - Subiaco Oval, Perth: 27 – 17 to Australia

C. Teams

AUSTRALIA 
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Israel Folau; Dane Haylett-Petty, Tevita Kuridrani, Samu Kerevi, Rob Horne; Bernard Foley, Nick Phipps; Scott Sio, Stephen Moore (captain), Greg Holmes, Rory Arnold, Rob Simmons, Scott Fardy, Michael Hooper, David Pocock.

Replacements: Tatafu Polota-Nau, James Slipper, Sekope Kepu, James Horwill, Dean Mumm, Sean McMahon, Nick Frisby, Christian Lealiifano

ENGLAND
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15. Mike Brown; 14. Anthony Watson, 13. Jonathan Joseph, 12. Luther Burrell, 11. Marland Yarde; 10. Owen Farrell, 9. Ben Youngs; 1. Mako Vunipola, 2. Dylan Hartley, 3. Dan Cole, 4. Maro Itoje, 5. George Kruis, 6. Chris Robshaw, 7. James Haskell, 8. Billy Vunipola.

Replacements: 16. Luke Cowan-Dickie, 17. Matt Mullan, 18. Paul Hill, 19. Joe Launchbury, 20. Courtney Lawes, 21. Danny Care, 22. George Ford, 23. Jack Nowell.


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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:06 pm

Seeing that Aussie back row brings shivers and hard memories of the kicking they gave us last year.

I can't see how England will slow them down and I fear lots of lost ball. Let's hope the front row don't get muller end again either.

I think a defeat by less than 20 would be an improvement away from home.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:11 pm

Turnover already.  Fears already coming true, we're going to get killed by this backrow.

Do we not have any good and balanced back rows?

Oh good lord this is way ahead of what eng can do.

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Post by lostinwales Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:13 pm

On a good day a good 7 is one of the most influential players on the pitch. On a bad day they can be bystanders.

If we protect the ball and if the heavies (and especially Haskell) do their job clearing out rucks we may well be fine

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Post by Scottrf Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:14 pm

Jesus the negativity.

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:16 pm

I really hate Sky's coverage

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Post by nathan Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:18 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:Turnover already.  Fears already coming true, we're going to get killed by this backrow.

Do we not have any good and balanced back rows?

Oh good lord this is way ahead of what eng can do.
Try to b positive

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:19 pm

Burrell didn't seem to know what he was supposed to do there.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:19 pm

Hard not to when the best team by a massive margin have been Aussie.

Just such a gap in class.  The World Cup showed how good they became in a short time and they have pushed on.  To fast, too skilled, too good. Even the front row losing again.

Jones has a lot of work to do to step up from being competitive in the NH to being able to even play these top SH teams.


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Post by nathan Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:23 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote: Hard not to when the best team by a massive margin have been Aussie.

Just such a gap in class.  The World Cup showed how good they became in a short time and they have pushed on.  To fast, too skilled, too good.
Then why even bother, they should just blow the whistle now and catch the plane  picard

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:24 pm

Scrims still a mess, eh?

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:24 pm

Might be less upsetting for an England fan

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Post by Geordie Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:25 pm

We are gonna get royally humped here!!

Can't do much without the ball!!!

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Post by Scottrf Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:25 pm

Now you can be negative.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:26 pm

It's looking ominous but still early days yet... Are Aus this good or England not at the races yet? Either way I expect a response.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:26 pm

This is going to be 50 points at least.

We seem utterly unable to cope with the pace at all.

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Post by nathan Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:26 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:It's looking ominous but still early days yet... Are Aus this good or England not at the races yet? Either way I expect a response.
Bit of both really

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Post by Breadvan Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:28 pm

The Aus backs are playing so quick its like forward x2 on a sky remote. Sublime skills...


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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:28 pm

Picking the out of form brown exposed us again blowing a wonderful chance.

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Post by Geordie Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:29 pm

The aussie forwards are too breadvan.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:29 pm

nathan wrote:
trebellbobaggins wrote: Hard not to when the best team by a massive margin have been Aussie.

Just such a gap in class.  The World Cup showed how good they became in a short time and they have pushed on.  To fast, too skilled, too good.
Then why even bother, they should just blow the whistle now and catch the plane  picard

Yeah quite a daft perspective. England have also clearly improved since the world cup and there are another two tests to be played after this one.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:29 pm

Breadvan wrote:The Aus backs are playing so quick its like forward x2 like a sky remote. Sublime skills...

It is a joy to watch as a rugby fan. As an England fan it hurts a tad Doh

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Post by Geordie Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:30 pm

Wow theres some claret out there.....

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Post by Scottrf Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:31 pm

Nice to have a bit of the ball. Hopefully will settle the game down.

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Post by alfie Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:31 pm

One eye on this and the other on Lord's ...

Beginning to fear this particular eye will be bloodshot by the end Smile

At last a bit of possession and three points back !

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:31 pm

No need for Aussie fans booing kicks when their team are so dominant anyway. Shameful stuff.

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Post by alfie Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:34 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:
Breadvan wrote:The Aus backs are playing so quick its like forward x2 like a sky remote. Sublime skills...

It is a joy to watch as a rugby fan.  As an England fan it hurts a tad Doh

Yeah you can only admire the way they move the ball ...but for the sake of the contest you'd hope they start making some mistakes Smile

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:36 pm

alfie wrote:
trebellbobaggins wrote:
Breadvan wrote:The Aus backs are playing so quick its like forward x2 like a sky remote. Sublime skills...

It is a joy to watch as a rugby fan.  As an England fan it hurts a tad Doh

Yeah you can only admire the way they move the ball ...but for the sake of the contest you'd hope they start making some mistakes Smile
Let the game settle down. We might get dry humped, or we could settle down and play some Rugby. Next score is important.

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Post by Geordie Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:39 pm

Why is Mako on the pitch....

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:39 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Why is Mako on the pitch....

Because Marler is taking a break

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:39 pm

Christ that was agile from itoje.

So do we have anything that ca deal with this amazing Aussie backrow? For the future I think it might be the biggest worry. I think it's getting the right 6 and 7, and a seven who's quick and a great ball stealer. Itoje at 6 but where is the 7 coming from?

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:40 pm

It would nice if the ref stopped letting then go for th ball after the ruck has already formed

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Post by Scottrf Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:40 pm

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Post by Geordie Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:41 pm

Ah for God's sake!!!

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:41 pm

Brown should have made that tackle.

Some disgraceful defence.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:41 pm

Foley has kicked on since the World Cup.

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Post by Driver Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:42 pm

Think that's what Hartley was talking about Hammer.

England need to move the contact area away from Pooper. Go back too hitting the short ball at the line out. We're bang into this if we can tighten up.


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:42 pm

Mike Brown has to make that tackle
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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:42 pm

Hard to say if that was a blatant obstruction, England players bought the dummy.

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Post by Geordie Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:43 pm

Blatant obstruction. We'll have that!

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Post by nathan Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:43 pm

Hmmm, that looked fine to me

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:44 pm

That was obstruction. Very clever from the number 4. Just enough of a nudge whilst never playing the ball to stop the defence in ther tracks.

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Post by Scottrf Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:44 pm

That's a bit of a let off imo.

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Post by nathan Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:44 pm

Ford, Frak

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:44 pm

The ball was moving and England players weren't following it, they were looking at players without the ball - good dummy and a harsh obstruction call for me.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:45 pm

I just missed that, who has gone off for Ford?

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Post by Scottrf Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:46 pm

Nobody went off. Talking to.

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Post by nathan Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:46 pm

They were running a line towards the ball?

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:46 pm

Burrell for Ford.

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Post by nathan Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:46 pm

Ford has done alright in open field play, so if Farrell is kicking we might be ok

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Post by Scottrf Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:47 pm

Oh sorry Burrell off. Thought you meant a yellow.

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